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DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14798	Posted - 2014.11.04 05:23:00 - [1] - Quote I don't even try to engage. Just fly my fat Incubus away. Going full speed away, swarms catch up and kill me each time. Thanks Ratatti, you've made this game exceptionally engaging Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14800	Posted - 2014.11.04 06:19:00 - [2] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Oh, how the tables have been turned. If only flying was ever as effortless as lookimg up and pulling the trigger. I won't even justify Joes sensless drivel with a sarcastic response. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14800	Posted - 2014.11.04 06:26:00 - [3] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Micheal Jordan23, idk what fcking fit he uses but he can tank my entire clip of swarms from my cal mando with triple stacked comp light damage mods. You can kill swarms because i've been killed many times by ads. It's harder then before but i still get killed a lot by ADS's when im swarming. Change up your fits because it is possible to tank swarms. Please share with the class because every Incubus fit I use goes down to exactly three proto swarm hits without exception. And they travel faster than me at full speed with AB on when I run before the first hit. if I coukd still record I would just to document the stupidity. Immortal turrets and every AV under the sun doing bonus damage to armor doesnt help much. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+*
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14804	Posted - 2014.11.04 09:20:00 - [4] - Quote So instead of doing the logical thing (look at missile and Python inbalances) you instead nerf dropships as a whole, over buff AV yet again, and call it a day. Im glad you think flying up the whole game is somehow engaging, especially when swarms outpace you at almost all times because an afterburner somehow doesn't up your max speed. Noted Please stay on topic Ratatti, insread of coming here posting irrelevant stats. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten the class as to why there is virtually no anti shield AV. That couldn't possibly factor into your Python dominance data..nooooo. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14805	Posted - 2014.11.04 09:36:00 - [5] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: over buff AV yet again please point us to the patch notes where AV was "overbuffed". Drunk and tired, perhaps "yet again" was pushing it but the point stands. Fire and forget weapons should never be as good as they are now Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14805	Posted - 2014.11.04 09:46:00 - [6] - Quote For some reason it won't let me quote. @Jace I knew you were both there runnin mandos. Thats not exactly a new tactic. I only kept coming back to test new survivability. I only engaged you guys about twice, never even hovering. Every single time I was flying away with AB before the first set hit me. Each and every time they outpaced and killed me as I ran away full speed, without even slowing down to engage. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14805	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:14:00 - [7] - Quote Scoota Eu wrote: Wow man. Complaining that you can't outrun swarms in a slow armour tanked drop ship with no AB and then when you are given facts that drop ships are performing admirably well you shoot him down. That coupled with everything else you say and do on here, just makes me come to the one conclusion. You really are a bit of a **. You mean my ship with 3% speed reduction, and an afterburner? Sorry for pointing out that your hero posted something totally irrelevant by pulling kill stats for Pythons when I was talking about Incubus survivability. Think what you will, I dont loose sleep over the rabble. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+**
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14805	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:23:00 - [8] - Quote Scoota Eu wrote: Hey man, I can't help but love the Rat. I'll do my best to lose as little sleep as possible, but you should try and cheer up! Maybe find a game that doesn't get you so worked up, stress is a real killer! EDIT: Also to point out your OP, the afterburner only really works when on. Working as intended ;) Not sure where you're getting that I have no afterburner. I tested one no AB fot for giggles. I simply mentioned the AB thing because its death without it, and as my tesr today showed me, also with it. ive stated multiple times that I ran full speed away with AB on before the first set hit me, and was still outpaced amd destroyed every time. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14806	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:54:00 - [9] - Quote Ive said it over and over and over now, I use AB. I flew away at max speed with AB active before first set hit me. I was outpaced each time and shot down doing the only thing that can even be confused as an evasive maneuver. Should I post it in French, would that help you? Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14809	Posted - 2014.11.04 12:46:00 - [10] - Quote This not being able to quote thing is irritating. Im starting to feel that Ratatti actually doesn't understand what "bonus damage" is if he expects a shielded python and an armored incubus to behave the same. This would actually explain a lot. And lmfao at AV platform. it was, before you went and neutered it all to hell and made it only marginally better than anything else that can fit a small railgun. You guys have one of the best minds in the game when it comes to drop ships, Judge, and you all just kicked his feedback to he curb. So, actually, your response seems about accurate. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14813	Posted - 2014.11.04 16:22:00 - [11] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I don't even try to engage. Just fly my fat Incubus away. Going full speed away, swarms catch up and kill me each time. Thanks Ratatti, you've made this game exceptionally engaging Unless I have an Afterburner active and rush for the ceiling, im **** (I run AB on all but test fits btw, and it no longer helps half the time) Sometimes I wonder why I quit, then I play a couple matches and it all comes back to me. CCP has no idea how to balance AV vs Vehicles, and likely never will. Sweet I'm glad I made the right choice getting Proto swarms instead of forge gun Free kills are free, rake em in, Rat loves the idea of effortless AV so ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+**
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14814	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:27:00 - [12] - Quote This forum is like sex with a dirty hooker. its fun and freaky but it gives me diseases of the flesh and soul. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14814	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:42:00 - [13] - Quote All of you AV people whine about dropships punching AB and huggin the ceiling. That is literally THE survival method. Deviate and die. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14821	Posted - 2014.11.04 23:51:00 - [14] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: For some reason it won't let me quote. @Jace I knew you were both there runnin mandos. Thats not exactly a new tactic. I only kept coming back to test new survivability. I only engaged you guys about twice, never even hovering, dipping down just long enough to take a couple shots and gtfo. Every single time I was flying away with AB before the first set hit me. Each and every time they outpaced and killed me as I ran away full speed, without even slowing down to engage. I plan to test things soon. I'm not doubting your word, but that seems a bit exaggerated. But then I've been off Dust more or less since early August, so I suppose anything could have happened. Please by all means test away, I was fairly drunk yesterday but I know I was going full speed away lol. Having that one extra set of swamrs in the air ensured I couldnt escape, they were shooting from the mushroom and I was dying all the way towards my MCC haha, sometimes I forget just how far 400 meters is lol. I miss when drop ships had remotely diverse fittings :/ Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14827	Posted - 2014.11.05 05:03:00 - [15] - Quote Where are you getting that the average Assault KD is 1:1? Also, people getting fixated on KD with dropships is basically the dumbest thing, since you can (occasionally) bail. You still cost that pilot at least 2 full proto fits worth of ISK, which is the real death. It's shocking that an attack vehicle would have a higher KD when assault rifles can't harm it.... Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14839	Posted - 2014.11.05 07:05:00 - [16] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Where are you getting that the average Assault KD is 1:1? Also, people getting fixated on KD with dropships is basically the dumbest thing, since you can (occasionally) bail. You still cost that pilot at least 2 full proto fits worth of ISK, which is the real death. It's shocking that an attack vehicle would have a higher KD when assault rifles can't harm it.... And here we are again. How many proto-swarm suits should be needed to take down one ADS? If there is no cap on AV, why is there a vehicle cap? Do you think that swarmers can only shoot at one vehicle, or that only one AV player will ever be on the field? Do you think not needing to aim isn't a large advantage for a highly efficient weapon? Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14843	Posted - 2014.11.05 07:23:00 - [17] - Quote And ive crashed into buildings from AV knockback. ** happens. Getting a lock is not aiming, it requires no level of precision, and a simple visual sweep will often tell you if you're clear to lock, which is in fact rather fast. You also missed the part where if one AV is supposed to easily kill one vehicle, then why can there be more AV than vehicles? Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+**
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14854	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:35:00 - [18] - Quote You strongly underestimate the cost of dropships and the ease of losing them to things out of your control, but that's a metric id love to see. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14854	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:39:00 - [19] - Quote Also there are faaaaar less pilots than swarmers, due to piloting being very skill, sp, and isk intensive, vs swarms beimg very user friendly And please include ISK lost when ships were 1.3 million a piece Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦áèa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14854	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:45:00 - [20] - Quote All I know is they go straight towards my last location, then do a 70 to 90 degree turn towards me, basically every time. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14855	Posted - 2014.11.05 15:56:00 - [21] - Quote Fox, I forget if you fly Python or Incubus. If you fly Incubus, mind sharing your fit? Currently the closest thing ive found to reliable is Complex Afterburner Complex 60mm plates Complex Light Armor Rep Basic Heavy Armor Rep XT-1 Missile or Proto Rail Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14860	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:14:00 - [22] - Quote For some reason I thought you were a pilot, my bad. This new lack of RoF on my railgun makes me feel like a flying LAV :/ Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14923	Posted - 2014.11.06 19:59:00 - [23] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: For some reason I thought you were a pilot, my bad. This new lack of RoF on my railgun makes me feel like a flying LAV :/ yup it is the update killed the last hotfix. it will go back up after they fix it. with rails anyways. It won't change my opinion of rail incubus, but it will be nice. Despite having the entire vehicle tree for incubus and related mods fully maxed, I find the Grimsnes to be way more fun and effective now, so long as my gunner isn't a total derp Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14923	Posted - 2014.11.06 20:02:00 - [24] - Quote Lmao @ double armor hardeners, that is easily one of the worst fits now :D Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14926	Posted - 2014.11.06 23:34:00 - [25] - Quote I mostly find it funny how flying, ADS specifically, has been reduced to a VERY specifc set of tactics that revolves largely around running away. There is so little diversity because afterburners are the "correct" way to fit and fly dropships, essentially taking up a slot before you even start to make your fit. Im telling you, Standard ships are now where it's at. They were buffed so much that they are simply superior if you have a gunner who can shoot even remotely well. The 10% damage buff from ADS skill is still nice, but the 15% RoF is absolutely negligible. That very tiny boost to offense isnt worth the survivability you lose, and while the added agility is nice, its really not that big of a difference anymore. Since the AV environment has so many swarms that essentially auto apply damage, more tank is the name of the game. Mevermimd turret installations. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14927	Posted - 2014.11.06 23:58:00 - [26] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: saw an ADS go 22-2 in a pc against 3 proto av'ers. They are so underpowered Incubus? What kind of fit was he running? And what kind of AV Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire

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