| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
   |
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:17:00 -
[1] - Quote
So, with Assault Dropships neutered, basic ships buffed for cheap easy suicides, and effortless AV repeatedly buffed, can someone please enlighten me as to what exactly the purpose is of Assault Dropships?
Judge, what happened man?
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
Atiim
13064
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:22:00 -
[2] - Quote
*Killing People
*High-Speed Transport
*Anti-Python (Incubus)
*Kamikaze (Incubus vs Python)
They've still got their uses.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:26:00 -
[3] - Quote
Atiim wrote:*Killing People
*High-Speed Transport
*Anti-Python (Incubus)
*Kamikaze (Incubus vs Python)
They've still got their uses.
*sigh*
Some things never change. So, you're telling me they're incredibly expensive wastes of air space. Rails were changed to anti armor, and a 15% rof boost is neglible at best, so no, incubus is no longer "anti python", and...did you seriously just suggest using ADS for suicide ships?
This is EXACTLY why the one fun part of the game was thoroughly butchered during my absence
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
Atiim
13065
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:35:00 -
[4] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:*Killing People
*High-Speed Transport
*Anti-Python (Incubus)
*Kamikaze (Incubus vs Python)
They've still got their uses. *sigh* Some things never change. So, you're telling me they're incredibly expensive wastes of air space. Rails were changed to anti armor, and a 15% rof boost is neglible at best, so no, incubus is no longer "anti python", and...did you seriously just suggest using ADS for suicide ships? This is EXACTLY why the one fun part of the game was thoroughly butchered during my absence
Obviously the last part was a joke, but I've still managed to take out a few Pythons with a Rail provided that they don't slam their Afterburners on. But yes, I do think 20GJ Rails could use a damage buff.
They're only wastes of air space if you don't use them properly, they can still kill players and they can easily pick up a few players faster than anything else in this game.
Perhaps you're just to used to being able to kill things by merely looking at them?
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:37:00 -
[5] - Quote
Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:*Killing People
*High-Speed Transport
*Anti-Python (Incubus)
*Kamikaze (Incubus vs Python)
They've still got their uses. *sigh* Some things never change. So, you're telling me they're incredibly expensive wastes of air space. Rails were changed to anti armor, and a 15% rof boost is neglible at best, so no, incubus is no longer "anti python", and...did you seriously just suggest using ADS for suicide ships? This is EXACTLY why the one fun part of the game was thoroughly butchered during my absence Obviously the last part was a joke, but I've still managed to take out a few Pythons with a Rail provided that they don't slam their Afterburners on. But yes, I do think 20GJ Rails could use a damage buff. However, ADSs are still very capable of killing people.
Pretty sure a full BPO scout is better at killing people lol
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
Atiim
13065
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 16:38:00 -
[6] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:
Pretty sure a full BPO scout is better at killing people lol
Depends on the map.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
|
Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
774
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:05:00 -
[7] - Quote
Dust Fiend? Hes alive?
Jesus that was a long hibernation lol. But OT, theyre nowhere near as good as they used to be, but still good if used situationally, rather than all the time like I used to.
As Atiim said, a light rail buff would be more than welcome.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
66-3 with Dual-Miltia Bolt Pistols. OP? OP.
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:11:00 -
[8] - Quote
Denchlad 7 wrote:Dust Fiend? Hes alive?
Jesus that was a long hibernation lol. But OT, theyre nowhere near as good as they used to be, but still good if used situationally, rather than all the time like I used to.
As Atiim said, a light rail buff would be more than welcome.
Incubus was never difficult to kill though. Without the RoF I see no way to fight double swarm commandos, instead the only option would be to hug the ceiling.
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
Atiim
13068
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:14:00 -
[9] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:
Incubus was never difficult to kill though. Without the RoF I see no way to fight double swarm commandos, instead the only option would be to hug the ceiling.
I wish my Assault suit could take on 2 Commandos head-on.
Sadly it cannot, as I'll be obliterated due to the high DPS of their Commandos being focused directly at me. I don't see why your Dropship should be any different.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:24:00 -
[10] - Quote
Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Incubus was never difficult to kill though. Without the RoF I see no way to fight double swarm commandos, instead the only option would be to hug the ceiling.
I wish my Assault suit could take on 2 Commandos head-on. Sadly it cannot, as I'll be obliterated due to the high DPS of their Commandos being focused directly at me. I don't see why your Dropship should be any different.
One commando. From huge ranges. With no aim required by them, and high skill and sp required by the pilot.
We always knew infantry would ruin vehicle play, it's just sad to see it finally happened
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
|
|
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18260
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:30:00 -
[11] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:
We always knew infantry would ruin vehicle play, it's just sad to see it finally happened
Spkr, is that you?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14719
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 17:33:00 -
[12] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
We always knew infantry would ruin vehicle play, it's just sad to see it finally happened
Spkr, is that you?
You know it's a dark day when spkr was right
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2290
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 18:23:00 -
[13] - Quote
There just need to be more turret options and new racial ADS bonuses and they'll be fine.
Dust was real! I was there!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
|
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
255
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 18:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
Dropship
Support vehicle.
Primarily use>Deployment of fresh infantry on battlefield
Secondary use>Supportive supressive fire
How we can see, dropship is still just "taxi" armed, but its specification is still "Taxi".
"Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
|
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1062
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:13:00 -
[15] - Quote
Isn't it obvious?
With no real role, high cost and the fact that everything from swarms to rdvs can kill ADSs with ease CCPs plan for ADSs is for them to simply be an ISK sink.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
|
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
256
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:14:00 -
[16] - Quote
Izlare Lenix wrote:Isn't it obvious?
With no real role, high cost and the fact that everything from swarms to rdvs can kill ADSs with ease CCPs plan for ADSs is for them to simply be an ISK sink.
Its faster taxi ergo its have role
"Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
|
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1261
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:16:00 -
[17] - Quote
if the pilot is good enough a Blaster Incubus MELTS tanks if e swoops in from behind to get in close.. last i heard it was like 3000 dps at L5
[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]]
[[Level 1 Forum Warrior]]
[[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
|
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1290
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:17:00 -
[18] - Quote
they were supposed to rework the swarms so they cannot make 90 degree turns and back to the days where they collided with buildings/terrain.. all they did was buff the swarms and left the first part out.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
|
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
593
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:19:00 -
[19] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:Dust Fiend? Hes alive?
Jesus that was a long hibernation lol. But OT, theyre nowhere near as good as they used to be, but still good if used situationally, rather than all the time like I used to.
As Atiim said, a light rail buff would be more than welcome. Incubus was never difficult to kill though. Without the RoF I see no way to fight double swarm commandos, instead the only option would be to hug the ceiling.
As far as I am concerned, double swarm commandos have EVERY right to absolutely wreck vehicles, and you have no rights to complain about it.
They have absolutely no way of defending themselves from infantry other than melee, which is useless.
And ADS still have a use, just because that use isn't "murder-**** infantry" doesn't mean that they are somehow worthless.
Get gud.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
|
Everything Dies
LIFE IS KILLING ME
1031
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:19:00 -
[20] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:This is EXACTLY why the one fun part of the game was thoroughly butchered during my absence
Butchered? Having their price reduced to correspond with an attempt to fix an openly-acknowledged bug that resulted in dropships being the supreme killers in battles and adjusting the afterburners to actually introduce the risk of having an ADS destroyed hardly sounds like being "butchered."
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
|
|
|
Atiim
13073
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:26:00 -
[21] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Incubus was never difficult to kill though. Without the RoF I see no way to fight double swarm commandos, instead the only option would be to hug the ceiling.
I wish my Assault suit could take on 2 Commandos head-on. Sadly it cannot, as I'll be obliterated due to the high DPS of their Commandos being focused directly at me. I don't see why your Dropship should be any different. One commando. From huge ranges. With no aim required by them, and high skill and sp required by the pilot. We always knew infantry would ruin vehicle play, it's just sad to see it finally happened
So when you said "double swarm commandos", you meant one player with dual swarms? Lol, just recall your Dropship, drive up to him, and feel free to melee him to death while laughing at how defenseless he is.
When it comes to Vehicles, 175m is not a huge range by any standards. Even properly fitted LAVs can escape that area before the 3rd lock is finished. The only thing that was ruining vehicle play were flying gunships which could obliterate HAVs (and anything, really) without risk.
And now, we've fixed that. You're welcome.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
|
Vicious Minotaur
1241
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:27:00 -
[22] - Quote
Vehicles have no point.
And you have CCP to thank for that, not infantry.
I am a minotaur.
|
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
256
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:30:00 -
[23] - Quote
Dropships are fine, i can see many pilots who basicaly mastered their skill for stunts what i never saw before (like flying through open spaces of instalation on battlefield and taking cover even behind the horizont).
There is nothing what is in comparsion between swarmies and dropships unbalanced now
"Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
|
Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
507
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:32:00 -
[24] - Quote
I thought drop ships were for transport. Not killing everything. |
hfderrtgvcd
879
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:33:00 -
[25] - Quote
clear uplinks and kill ****
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
|
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
256
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:35:00 -
[26] - Quote
Echo 1991 wrote:I thought drop ships were for transport. Not killing everything.
Exactly how i told, its flying armed taxi.
Hell that name> DROP-SHIP
"Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
|
Kaughst
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
738
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:40:00 -
[27] - Quote
The ADS will always be in a confusing place because designing a vehicle that is inherently meant to ferry people and slapping on a turret to the front does not make this the Jet fighter that was seen at Fanfest 2013.
"Why do we fight?"
"To win the war."
"Meh... Works for me."
|
Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
507
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:41:00 -
[28] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I thought drop ships were for transport. Not killing everything. Exactly how i told, its flying armed taxi. Hell that name> DROP-SHIP My english is not great (hell its quite mediocre) but i understand this. Why other people dont?!
Its because they were used to killing everything without any danger and now they actually have to worry about av they complain. |
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
257
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:46:00 -
[29] - Quote
Echo 1991 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I thought drop ships were for transport. Not killing everything. Exactly how i told, its flying armed taxi. Hell that name> DROP-SHIP My english is not great (hell its quite mediocre) but i understand this. Why other people dont?! Its because they were used to killing everything without any danger and now they actually have to worry about av they complain.
I have message for them.
Wait for possible racial vehicle implements or for Valkyrie on Ps4
"Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
|
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
14721
|
Posted - 2014.10.19 19:50:00 -
[30] - Quote
Echo 1991 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I thought drop ships were for transport. Not killing everything. Exactly how i told, its flying armed taxi. Hell that name> DROP-SHIP My english is not great (hell its quite mediocre) but i understand this. Why other people dont?! Its because they were used to killing everything without any danger and now they actually have to worry about av they complain.
if you couldn't kill an Incubus before, you were just bad. Now, I don't see how to not kill them lmfao. I don't play this game anymore, haven't in months. Just laughing at how the community driven "balance" has led to a fairly pointless ADS that can't even act as reliable AV. Thankfully swarm players can look up and collect points though ;)
Oh, and lol @ transport, most maps make transport via dropship poimtless outside the initial drop, and hovering to pick people up was always a recioe for failure, even before the easiest to use weapon in the game was repeatedly buffed
(pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |