*Killing People
*High-Speed Transport
*Anti-Python (Incubus)
*Kamikaze (Incubus vs Python)

They've still got their uses.

Obviously the last part was a joke, but I've still managed to take out a few Pythons with a Rail provided that they don't slam their Afterburners on. But yes, I do think 20GJ Rails could use a damage buff.

However, ADSs are still very capable of killing people.

Dust Fiend? Hes alive?

Jesus that was a long hibernation lol. But OT, theyre nowhere near as good as they used to be, but still good if used situationally, rather than all the time like I used to.

As Atiim said, a light rail buff would be more than welcome.

I wish my Assault suit could take on 2 Commandos head-on.

Sadly it cannot, as I'll be obliterated due to the high DPS of their Commandos being focused directly at me. I don't see why your Dropship should be any different.

Spkr, is that you?

Its because they were used to killing everything without any danger and now they actually have to worry about av they complain.

No it hasn't. The fact swarms work now is a good thing. Considering it can't hurt anything else it should destroy any vehicle if it sits in an area too long.

Blaster turrets are great for melting shields on Dropships!

So yesterday I was playing a game. A guy on the other team was using a python, me and a couple of squadmates were using forge guns. I was up on the roof of one of the little warehouses (building with 4 ladders at each corner with the 4 little humps on top).

The python kept coming down and attacking me over and over, literally hovering 10 feet from me for long enough for me to hit it three times with my forge gun.

Then he would afterburn/shield boost away and my last shot would hit but not kill him due to the shield boost.

He did this over and over again, he was apparently having some issues with aiming because he rarely hit me, but I have no doubt he would have killed me over and over if he could fix his terrible aim. Eventually right before the match ended he just squished me against the side of one of the humps and killed me.

If anyone actually believes ADS still arent overpowered when an ADS can hover point blank in front of the unit that is designed to counter it, and tank every shot the guy puts into it, then just fly away scott free... well... if you still think its underpowered, I have news: Its not the ADS, its you. You suck.

Every vehicle has this feature: it is entirely the pilot's decision to be killed. You can escape any time and there is little to nothing any infantry can do about it. The only thing that will for sure stop a vehicle is a massive overwhelming alpha strike.

Incubi need more HP at base. and/or more fitting room. I also think that both ADS need an extra slot. 1H for the inci and 1 low for the python because fitthing them is really stale.

The same issue exists for Incubi, Grimsnes, and Myrons. The point is that in a fight between an AV player and a vehicle of any kind, it is 100% the vehicle pilot's fight to lose. There is no way for the AV guy to WIN the fight. They might drive the vehicle behind something or even drive him off the field, but that vehicle is not dead. Dead AV is a result of normal routine gameplay. Dead vehicles are the result of mistakes by the pilot.

You know you're wrong when Spkr agrees with you.

Simple. My advice was overridden. My data dismissed. My opposition was vocal and noted.

Atiim never made that clarification. The original post was about dual-swarm commandos, Atiim responded about Commandos w/o clarifying. It was that lack of clarification that lead me to believe the same scenario existed in both comments.

But if it's easier for you to be a pedantic prick, by all means, go ahead an continue insulting people on the internet. You'll feel better for it.

its not ISK balance. We are talking about P and L

ADS finally dropped down to reality from being the Death Gods of Dust514. ISK was/is being farmed and SP was around Logi level, they are not, and shouldn't be balancing factors. This game is a FPS.

Soraya Xel I got your back. I find Dust 514 10x more enjoyable, with the ADS re-balance.

Judge can eat D^ck for all I care.

-First you said you will never be back on this game after CCP go on computer with legion
-I still see 3 ads on each side in PC and 0 assault dropsuit
-Its a FPS so vehicule ruining infantry gameplay before this path
-I still see good ADS result like 15-2, not like every ADS pilot with their 40-0 the previous patch and thinked they where good
-since close beta DustFiend is only good at whining like a woman nothing more XD, never saw something positive from you .... An you are still... There! Funny , no?

None of you have thinked about the poor infantry thst cant do nothing against you so you can kill them without they can defend themselves, you will say they can switch to AV, i will say you can switch on the ground when to many Aits fair, honest and legit now go whining elsewhere im tired of your lack of logic already

How many AV to take down an helicopter with machine gun to land troop? One is enough, right? But it is real life stuff so it doesnt count i ageee myself. ADS is here for support troops by bringing them where thwy cant be there without them, suppirt fire from the air even if the ennemy bring one AV its mission accomplish for the pilot , btw one AV will not kill,you just drive away has is supposed to be, also ADS is faster than normal derpship so can be in an area faster than anyone espacially usefull at beginning of a match, ADS is a luxury & support in a match the may need to know how to fight on the ground too. I play with ADS pilot who their mission is to destroy ennemy uplink for all the match, he dont get alot of kill and WP but he help alot, matches are won with that kind of innitiative and are a good exemple of teamwork ADS is support not slayer. So your back apparently, i toughed you get reimboursed , saying CCP was crap?,