I'll check in with my managers tomorrow if I can explain the 'customer support view' about this topic in detail. I would love to :) Even though I know I won't convince anyone. And I don't want to. We know you guys want respecs, and we handle respec requests according to our policies. Every ticket reply with a denied respec request also includes the line "Please keep an eye on the DUST 514 Forum and DEV Blog, to be up-to-date with any DUST 514 related news, and to see if such an option will ever be available again."

How about you add the respec feature in the game. Everyone ask for it so bad constantly. Just add it to the game already, BUT it has to cost a butt load of ISK OR Aurum. I'd be happy with that.

naw smart people will save their sp as i feel a nerfageddon on the horizon for scouts.. especially the cal scout.

So what your saying is you dont have 10 mil worth of skills that were drastically changed making them invalid to your playstyle?

So what your saying is you dont have 10 mil worth of skills that were drastically changed making them invalid to your playstyle?

So I spec into assault full proto. Assault is rendered useless currently do to the fact that scouts are better at being assault. I can do ten times more with my gal scout than I can with my gal assault. Both are proto, but the assault is a waste of isk?! If I were to get just my suit and weapon points back I could choose to run two types of scout instead. I don't even run the assault at this point?!

Almost got the gal commando proto too because it's also more versatile than my assault. It can use light weapons and tank armor. It can be slow or fast ( as you can get a heavy). It serves double as AV and fire support. With assault you have to choose one or the other.

All my points in the AR and gal assault were pretty much a waste as I watched both the weapon and the class get nerfed and outclassed into oblivion?! Any points into the ScR was a waste as it has been killed?! These changes were after the fact that I spent the points. I spec into it for one reason only to have that reason removed.

To be completely honest with you I can care less about eve outside of OB support. The two games simply aren't integrated enough to matter. What you don't get in eve shouldn't be denied to me in dust simply because you get on the forums and say "htfu"?! Eve is an entirely different game. When they change a ship it's still a ship. You change guns or whatever and keep mining?! In dust when they nerf something it gets obliterated!!! They completely change the way the suit or weapon operates.

The gal heavy slot were 4 low 1 high. They switch them with the Amarr 3 low 2 high for the game "lore". That's a complete suit change! Well now gal heavy players want to spec into Amarr heavies to get their performance back, and rightfully so!

I understand tweaks, but you must also understand how steep some of these changes have been. Once rattati finds a balance a respec is in order. The race you picked might be useless to your playstyle altogether by the time he's through. If you play well with Amarr weapons, and they get nerfed? Maybe your new weapon is minmatar weapons. By the time they're done I will have points all over the skill tree at this rate?!

Remember! If I ran proto assault first that means I ran assault style mods. Armor, damage mods, shields, etc. Now due to the fact that assault is useless I run proto scout, but I must also spec into scout weapons and mods?! Your talking about saving millions of sp just to be effective?!

We're not whining. We're asking for some consideration.

How does it not matter when one skills into something and a month later it gets changed? How is that not spending sp wisely when the function of the skill is changed? I think you should actually put some thought into your logic. Your rederic suggests that we should all be physic and predict when something will be changed. Not only that but they release half the weapons, equipment and suits a year later making my previous choices invalid, I dont need ar and cr I dont need sg after the min scout got a good bonus change and kn got a much needed buff. I could go on with more valid reason as to why we should get respec's when **** is always being changed. Why should we suffer because they can't make a semi balanced game to begin with let alone release all the content right away. This is not a model that will succeed even on PC.

All racial starter fittings had the Assault Rifle fitted to them making new players believe that was their racial go-to weapon...

which is 100% wrong and led to many players (who were not Gallente) dumping SP into a weapon that was not inline with their racial rifles.

Essentially what your saying leadfoot is it doesnt affect you so **** anyo e it does, do you live your life based on such selfish ideals?

And so you know, the "model that will [not] succeed even on a PC" has been surviving for more than a decade with Eve, not to mention countless other FPS and MMOs that use a similar model, and respecs after every change water down a fundamental tenet of the genre -- your choices matter.

The choices you make don't matter when CCP changes things on a whim.

But they're not "changing things on a whim".

They are changing things to introduce new content and improve balance....

...just like every FPS I've ever played in the past two decades....

...and just like Dust has been since closed beta.

So, either you can recognize that and plan accordingly or you can continue to cry for respecs and argue that those who disagree make no sense.

The choice is yours.

But they're not "changing things on a whim".

They are changing things to introduce new content and improve balance....

...just like every FPS I've ever played in the past two decades....

...and just like Dust has been since closed beta.

So, either you can recognize that and plan accordingly or you can continue to cry for respecs and argue that those who disagree make no sense.

The choice is yours.

I guess you forgot we only had a dropsuit SP refund for 1.8, when everybody on here wanted a full infantry respec. I had a full vehicle SP refund for 1.7, there wasn't any reason not to get a full dropsuit SP refund.

You have no logical argument against one. You think people will get an unfair advantage over you, even though everybody would get one. Or do you enjoy stomping on noobs so much that you won't allow one for that reason alone?

I guess you forgot we only had a dropsuit SP refund for 1.8, when everybody on here wanted a full infantry respec. I had a full vehicle SP refund for 1.7, there wasn't any reason not to get a full dropsuit SP refund.

come on now Lead stop acting like we don't know how to play dust and use SP wisely. i have 4 proto suits heavy,2 assaults, and a scout plus 6 proto weapons

If you have all those Proto items and haven't maxed out your preferred role, that's your own fault.

small things like fitting optimization LvL 5 on a gun.

I guess you forgot we only had a dropsuit SP refund for 1.8, when everybody on here wanted a full infantry respec. I had a full vehicle SP refund for 1.7, there wasn't any reason not to get a full dropsuit SP refund.

You have no logical argument against one. You think people will get an unfair advantage over you, even though everybody would get one. Or do you enjoy stomping on noobs so much that you won't allow one for that reason alone?

come on now Lead stop acting like we don't know how to play dust and use SP wisely. i have 4 proto suits heavy,2 assaults, and a scout plus 6 proto weapons no matter what happens every patch i have something i can run thats effective. i never wanted to have to do that as i prefer 1 role and gun but noobs cry to nerf the **** out of something till it completely changes or is useless. this makes me use my SP sideways instead of truely maxing out my prefered role.