yes and those were only for the bitterest of the vets who dont dust no more.. where as most of us are the new crop who never got grades with the blessing of an sp respec

Now , this is my thoughts as to why it's not or will not happen .

This is telling a lot and a good observation from you Xavier .

I'm not going to lie , the ONLY reason that I still play this game is for the fight that those who are fighting for a refund are undertaking , I like the game and the community and all but there is just so much missing after FF from people leaving to the changes ( they were needed ) and the simple blandness of the present environment .

If this doesn't happen , I can do nothing but just fade away and no you can't have my ISK's either .

I've been through every respec in dust history, I'm not bitter, and I still dust frequently. No to respecs. Even if they give one there will be another "new crop" crying for one eventually. Where does it end? Here's the answer, it doesn't. I like that dust is one of the few games out there that puts true value into leveling your character. Respecs in any game cheapen character development a great deal, essentially changing the feel of a character from unique to an undefined blob of SP or exp. If you want to skill into something else you gotta do it the hard way. Props to ccp for staying adamant to this ideal within fair reason.

never heard of you, never seen you.. this is first time iv actually seen you post "Who are you?"

We don't NEED one. It would just be a nice benefit. Like for me. The idea still haunts me that when I first joined DUST 514, I skilled DS command to 3, then skilled Gallente Heavy dropsuits 3. Now I regret it :/ I'm a Min logi and Min scout for God's sake....

Don't you know bad boys move in silence and violence?

To op and others asking for "give us respec be be over with it":

Guess what? You've already gotten it. There has been several respecs in course of dust history.


Guess what else? There was a new GAEV ME RESPEC -thread the following day.
On every occasion there's been new one in three days at the latest.

Now , this is my thoughts as to why it's not or will not happen .

This is telling a lot and a good observation from you Xavier .

I'm not going to lie , the ONLY reason that I still play this game is for the fight that those who are fighting for a refund are undertaking , I like the game and the community and all but there is just so much missing after FF from people leaving to the changes ( they were needed ) and the simple blandness of the present environment .

If this doesn't happen , I can do nothing but just fade away and no you can't have my ISK's either .

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - are you saying we don't listen to our players? Hm. Interesting.

By a valid reason I mean something like when we introduced the racial variants for Dropsuits, adding a bunch of new Skills, or when we completely overhauled the Vehicle Skills. We totally should have done a respec for these updates, at least for the specific Skill Trees. Waitaminute....

You are being a little bit too confrontational in your approach. You are totally right, but the attitude is off putting.

**** your ISK...keep it

yeah Dust 514 will die in its current state (no port to PS4, only on PS3)
But, correct me if i'm wrong, legion is a PC version of dust 514, which means a lot more players will be opened up to the tranquility server. THEN they should port to PS4 with dust 514's income, legions profits...ect

But it isn't as simple as that unfortunately and remaking it for the playstation 4 requires more than just labour money (dev work)

Also need the rights to use the PS4 as a system to operate dust on ($$$)

I didn't mean you can't have it , you know when you talk about leaving the vultures begin to fly around looking for some scraps .

how racist to the dutch!

You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread?

I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones.

Your choices do matter. They still matter.

Things change. Everyone complains about OP/UP in a hundred threads a week in GD alone. There will be continual balances of fittings, things will change. The fact that this gun got buffed, or that suit got nerfed isn't that big of a deal. If it's a minor change (which they usually are) it's nearly irrelevant. If something was so OP that it got the nerf bat, then you knew it when training that item, and should have known it was going to get the bat. If something you trained into got extremely buffed and then nerfed back, well, you're probably still in a better position than before.

The only people I see wanting a respec seem to have this "grand plan" on what they'd do with the SP, were they to get it back. You can see it in every thread. I'd take this to 5 and that to 5 and this over here to 5 and finish that. What do they always seem to skill into? The things that were most recently buffed.

Look, I wasn't thrilled with the way the ADS got hit this time around. I have so many LVL 5 skills in vehicles that I can't use the way I used to before. That doesn't mean the points are useless. The ADS will get looked at 10 more times before Legion and it'll get hit with the bat again and buffed again and hit with the bat again, etc. I still fly my ADS, I just lose them more often than I did before.

Just because something got changed, doesn't make you skill point investment pointless. I means you need to reevaluate your play style. Adapt. Figure out something new. You might just stumble upon something you truly love that you wouldn't have seen before you were forced to.

You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread?

I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones.

You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread?

I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones.

I personally don't.
You people need to http://youtu.be/zAxMw_gcKvo?t=43s and/or spend your SP wisely.

Not talking about the answer, I can't change that. It will not be any different. And I have never said I'd have any influence on that

Talking about some of the reasons why we don't do respecs. It's rather pointless talking about this apparently. Off to bed then.

You see that tons of us would love to get some respecs, and as many say, it might even out the playing field as far as proto stompers... I just would like to know why you are so reluctant to give us a respec with so many of us wanting one. I also understand that you have given respecs in the past for massive changes to the game, and hotfix delta wasn't that big. But it seems to be one of the largest changes to Dust in a while. If you could just give us the option for a single respec until maybe into project legions life time, it would make me and many others happy. Thank you for your consideration though.

because keeping the players happy is a bad idea in there eyes. players leaving to go play other games seems like a good business model in there eyes. i may be crazy but makeing money has all ways been a good idea in my eyes.

You're crying over spilled milk

The only skill point refund I remember in EVE in 8 years when was they removed learning skills. It wasn't a respec, it was a return.

THAT IS WHY IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

If CCP won't refund SP in EVE, their bread and butter, even when they make such sweeping changes to ship design, they WILL NOT do it in Dust.

You know what happens in EVE when something get's put on it's a$s? People adapt, they skill into new ships, they pull out old ships they haven't used in 3 years, a very tiny amount rage on the forums. Those that rage get told the same thing you see on these forums.

It's exponentially easier to skill into new suits and weapons in this game that it is in EVE. Suck it up and quit whining.

Hard to do such a thing when you come back from a break and find your 6 mill SP investment worthless

If I spec into a class for a specific reason. Then you change that. I no longer have what I spec'd into it for. Is that not enough reason for a respec?