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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
530
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:40:00 -
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Tweet Tweet
enough said I think
BEER TIME !
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:42:00 -
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what a jerk. you don't have to like a console, but what did consoles ever do to you?
My other car is Utena
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1270
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:46:00 -
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If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name?
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
4007
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:46:00 -
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They should really have Devs go through some PR training.
All of them.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Atiim
12042
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:50:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name? CCP FoxFour.
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1508
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:50:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name?
Good ol' SoxFour.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
526
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:52:00 -
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Soxfour has been lost
The only person in Dust stupid enough to Proto every single god-damn weapon. 19/19.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1368
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:55:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:Soxfour has been lost Something happened?
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
2358
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:55:00 -
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Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:58:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. or he is part of the "PC Master Race" people...
My other car is Utena
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Immortal John Ripper
24423
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:59:00 -
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SEE?!?!?
Now you guys must be glad that I started the chain of events that eventually made FoxFour lose 100k likes. It was for this reason I started my war against this dev. He is pure evil!
Avatar - PirateKing - Hokage - The guy who captured them all - Your daddy
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General John Ripper
24424
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:59:00 -
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SEE?!?!?
Now you guys must be glad that I started the chain of events that eventually made FoxFour lose 100k likes. It was for this reason I started my war against this dev. He is pure evil!
Avatar - PirateKing - Hokage - The guy who captured them all - Your daddy
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
2359
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:02:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. or he is part of the "PC Master Race" people...
Think of it how you like. I will keep in my heart the sheer excitement and enthusiasm for DUST in the CCP Nullarbor and Foxfour that I thought I knew.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
1333
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:02:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:SEE?!?!?
Now you guys must be glad that I started the chain of events that eventually made FoxFour lose 100k likes. It was for this reason I started my war against this dev. He is pure evil! Don't you taint my corp tags with his name! |
John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
917
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name? CCP FoxFour.
Now i love him. But why he type "?" symbol in tweet?
Please support fair play!
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IVIaster LUKE
675
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:22:00 -
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Volcanism is driving everyone crazy in that region I hear.
Displays International Peace Sign middle finger to ISIS and all future dead jihadist.
R.I.P. BENDECCO 1970 - 2014
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Spectre-M
The Generals
858
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:27:00 -
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Sounds like butt hurt to me. The ps3 must have kicked him in his lower coding.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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Booby Tuesdays
Tuesdays With Boobies
815
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:30:00 -
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Does anyone honestly find this surprising?
Day One Proto Minmatar Commando.
A Mass Driver IS My Sidearm.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3742
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Posted - 2014.09.11 02:34:00 -
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This is because he tried to play football with a console once...ended poorly. http://youtu.be/U7D8V_oZuDU
Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1096
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Posted - 2014.09.11 02:49:00 -
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Maybe spending 2+ years developing one left him jaded with the whole process?
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2049
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Posted - 2014.09.11 02:51:00 -
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Um, excuse me. He was clearly kicking a round ball with his foot... I.e. Soccer. |
Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
994
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:15:00 -
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thats embarassing, hes lucky hes not getting fired for that. ccp should be ashamed.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:27:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:thats embarassing, hes lucky hes not getting fired for that. ccp should be ashamed. to be honest, I don't think CCP cares.
My other car is Utena
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
9301
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Posted - 2014.09.11 04:31:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:thats embarassing, hes lucky hes not getting fired for that. ccp should be ashamed.
CCP is run by Vikings just so you know.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2711
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:03:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:thats embarassing, hes lucky hes not getting fired for that. ccp should be ashamed. CCP is run by Vikings just so you know.
that explains their entire work ethic....... no wonder they sun their own ship....
Closed Beta Vet.
PSN: Helix-Void_Echo
Only the strongest can do Good and the weakest do Evil- Void Echo
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
950
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Posted - 2014.09.11 08:06:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. Or you could overhaul ps3 version throw it to ps4 transfer all player data and call that an upgrade. Then repeat for ps5. Wow I just blew your mind
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
107
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:29:00 -
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either FoxFour wasn't high up enough on the totem pole or...
him and CCP just don't understand the console market. if you didn't want Dust to get killed by PS4 why did you sign up for PS3 very close to the end of the console's life cycle?
and why does everyone always overlook Nintendo when thinking about consoles? Sony would be nothing but a generic electronics company without them. Nintendo invented the console market with some VERY selfish goals in mind. It was all about making them more money. this concept is what the industry was built around. do you honestly think third party developers had a choice whether or not to conform to Nintendo's agenda? ****, that's why Metroid is a dead franchise right now because Nintendo sucked all the life out of their best developer, Retro Studios so they could make more Donkey Kong bullshit to cater to the younger crowd.
consoles have ALWAYS been something to suck all your television time and money up. it's been a fierce competition to grab all the attention they could get out of the technology that allows corporations to reach into people's homes and completely immerse them into a world where they only hear, see, and think about the game.
to be completely honest CCP are fooling themselves if they think coming to PSN in the first place was a wise decision on their part. if they weren't looking to expand their company and follow in the footsteps of Sony, they should've never made the initial investment.
Legion and Fanfest wasn't just a PR **** up because of butthurt fans. It was because they abandoned their investment into the console market for fear of growing into a larger corporation and being sucked up into Sony. |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
597
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Posted - 2014.09.11 11:14:00 -
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lolpcmasterrace |
steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3295
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Posted - 2014.09.11 11:18:00 -
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Lol that's been ccp possible since before fanged Gÿ¦
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4833
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Posted - 2014.09.11 11:50:00 -
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I see no tweet, therefore I assume it got removed.
What was it? |
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1368
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:28:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I see no tweet, therefore I assume it got removed.
What was it? SoxFour saying "F**k consoles?"
(If my post gets edited, then I called it)
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
538
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:28:00 -
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i was going to go on a long ranty post, about how an ex Dust Devs current attitude towards us and our community shows the willingness to bring Dust towards the PS4 as Legion, and how this draws into sharp contrast EVERYTHING that Ratatattat and LogiBroDudeBro are trying to rebuild .... but ill save it for another time,
I'm sure he has been sufficiently re-briefed other wise that tweet would still stand.
You see guys ocp do care, they really do.
Again I will paraphrase a quote for some random blueberry : Don't watch what people say, watch what people do .
oh, don't worry blue dot .... I am watching, we are all watching
Don't worry CCP FoxFour, ill be sat in the same sensitivity training lecture as you dude, apparently people have these things called feelings vov .
BEER TIME !
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
538
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:54:00 -
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deleting tweets i see, not today sweet heart, not on my watch
Re Tweet Tweet
BEER TIME !
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1527
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:03:00 -
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Does this really surprise you coming from CCP? The "Greed is Good" and all of the rest of the shenanigans that have come from them.
The thing is I can somewhat get down with the "F**k Consoles" mantra but I'm just a player. Devs are meant to be more professional that this.
The thing I dont get is - why one earth did you not make DUST for PC in the first place like most people argued for!?
My goodness you made your own bed CCP.....
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12113
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:07:00 -
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It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1527
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke.
I would respect him more if he stuck by his word and didn't delete it like a pu$$y......(One can only assume the higher ups forced him to)
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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NAV HIV
The Generals
2099
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:13:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS.
Good Developers with long term planning would've gone for Consoles... The number of PS4 sold, the number of players spending $$$ for Dust beta... Even if they charged $5 a month from all these players for a PS4 upgrade, they'd be willing to i guess... But this is what happens when they listen to bunch of cry babies for planning... |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2008
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:20:00 -
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What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick.
This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state?
This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12115
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:22:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick.
This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state?
This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion. And CCP, as a whole, are dicks for it.
Don't make a promise you can't keep, and don't lie about it right until the end. /ccpdidaurumsalesrightbeforefanfest
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5543
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:26:00 -
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Its a social network site, he can say what he wants.
Console is sht to be developing a game that is supposed to be linked to eve as well.
They tried developing a brand new and ground breaking game on a machine that has a playerbase who for the most part, have no experience with in depth and decent games.
Case in point, mag.
Private servers with unlimited pop cap>lolmag.
Jokes on ccp.
That was spiffing.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
544
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke.
if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else.
I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs
BEER TIME !
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
772
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:48:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs
OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS
seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb
Prime League champion
SGL Sidearm champion
Fanfest '14 All star champion
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5544
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:55:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs
Even if he is serious, that doesn't matter.
Just because he is a dev, it doesn't mean that he is no longer allowed to be human and voice his opinion.
Regardless, ccp has eve which makes a lot of money and dust will still be making money with aurum so they have an obligation to keep it running until it starts costing money.
Thats why development is so slow i believe, because to keep it they must make it so it is not costing money. If they behave like 99% of all companies on earth, then this will be the case. They also admitted that they have cut down the dev team so it must be.
I think ccp does have a lot of love for dust otherwise they'd have just scrapped it. They can't simply be deleting a whole games worth of info as it is also good for the building blocks for another game *cough legion*.
And they certainly can't be p1ssing off their investors anymore than they probably already did with that vampire game.
They scrapped about 10 years of work i believe, ouch.
Edit: dont be forgetting that most of their playerbase is on pc as well. This would make it even 'easier' to scrap as well if they wanted.
That was spiffing.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3261
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:58:00 -
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He's right though...
Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5544
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:06:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:He's right though...
Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it.
Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles.
My friend suggested i tried star wars the old republic.
It was a fking wow clone from an early build that was re skinned as star wars.
Hutt ball?.
Oh rich storyline?.
Books much?.
GTFO!.
That was spiffing.
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Michael Arck
5490
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:06:00 -
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Okay. Not sure who exactly who he is.
Another guy says he doesn't even work on Dust anymore
**** consoles! LOL! Developers has in the past talked about the complex architecture of PS3, reason why it was simpler more PC based on PS4
Eh, people got their preferences. He said nothing bad about my mother or family.
We can't be that sensitive people.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Michael Arck
5490
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:08:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:He's right though...
Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it.
Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles.
That's cold man.
Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase?
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3263
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:15:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:He's right though...
Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it.
Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase?
Its purely trolling. Unfortunately the whole PC vs. Console debate is so emotionally charged that a single 4/10 troll post can get a whole thread going in bad directions pretty quick.
Is the console playerbase the same? Up until about 2 years I would say absolutely not. As the PC keeps increasing in graphical processing power faster than consoles can keep up though, I feel like we are starting to see more gamers who want more out of their system start reaching for a much more affordable and easier to build PC than they were in the past.
I converted to PC gaming in 2010 as I primarily play MMOs anymore, I only played Dust at all because I have a friend who couldn't afford a PC back when uprising first launched. He's since finished his masters and found a job, so now we play PC games together.
You'll find that a lot of people are saying they have no reason to buy a PS4/XB1. I wonder if that will change at all over the next 3-4 years. I certainly see no reason to buy one and part of me wishes that neither of them exist today so we might actually get some decently optimized PC games for once. Publishers are so lazy :(
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5545
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:17:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:He's right though...
Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it.
Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase?
They are both as shtty as each other but pc gamers have more experience with more 'complex' games and so better feedback.
An example is ultiima online vs diablo.
Ultiima online - just as good and in depth as WoW but you could DO MUCH MORE. and pvp almost anywhere. It was the eve of fantasy styled mmo's.
Diablo - A linear dungeon raider where you point and click over and over and over again.......
They both came in the same year, In fact diablo didn't come to console until a few years later......1998.
With the ps4 though, console players are catching up, kind of. I think the ps4 is good for next gen games for many years to come.
I have one but all the games are re hashed crap with nice graphics. I never played bf3 but i have bf4 with premium and im guessing that the let down i experienced and the bland and shtty game play is exactly what a lot of bf vets feel because they don't seem too happy with it either.
That was spiffing.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
2102
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:23:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick.
This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state?
This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion.
It is because of scrub players and people like yourself, Dust went to the bins... |
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1372
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:27:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb If I were a Dust developer, I'd probably be feeling the same way SoxFour feels about this whole thing. SoxFour just wasn't that reserved as compared to other Devs. I'm not saying CCP hates their Dust playerbase, but if Dust's playerbase is so whiny, terrible, and demanding; who wouldn't hate them?
My 2 cents.
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5546
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:29:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb If I were a Dust developer, I'd probably be feeling the same way SoxFour feels about this whole thing. SoxFour just wasn't that reserved as compared to other Devs. I'm not saying CCP hates their Dust playerbase, but if Dust's playerbase is so whiny, terrible, and demanding; who wouldn't hate them? My 2 certs.
Fixed.
That was spiffing.
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Michael Arck
5492
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:32:00 -
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Hmm interesting responses there, you two. Thanks. I know I haven't budged to get a PS4 or a X1 yet. Why buy those when they just pushing indies and remasters as now? I feel like they are robbing console gamers. For what you pay to own a console over time, I feel that money should be put into a PC, where the price of games are manageable and you can upgrade your PC as needs be.
People say the next generation is always slow to start but to me, the truth is, I never seen the start of next gen move so slowly. People were saying "wait until 2014". Now its "wait until 2015".
I think I'm starting to lean more towards the PC gaming, just for the maturer aspects it brings. Consoles, IMO, are ruined by the entitled individuals who demand the devs to bend to their wills like slaves. I don't see that in PC gaming. Of course they are not exempt from such attitudes, but I don't see it prevalent as in the console world.
Anyway, who doesn't like to watch **** and then switch to a FPS on the fly? I do.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3296
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå
You can never have to many chaples
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5547
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Hmm interesting responses there, you two. Thanks. I know I haven't budged to get a PS4 or a X1 yet. Why buy those when they just pushing indies and remasters as now? I feel like they are robbing console gamers. For what you pay to own a console over time, I feel that money should be put into a PC, where the price of games are manageable and you can upgrade your PC as needs be.
People say the next generation is always slow to start but to me, the truth is, I never seen the start of next gen move so slowly. People were saying "wait until 2014". Now its "wait until 2015".
I think I'm starting to lean more towards the PC gaming, just for the maturer aspects it brings. Consoles, IMO, are ruined by the entitled individuals who demand the devs to bend to their wills like slaves. I don't see that in PC gaming. Of course they are not exempt from such attitudes, but I don't see it prevalent as in the console world.
Anyway, who doesn't like to watch **** and then switch to a FPS on the fly? I do.
That's why im looking forward to planetside 2 on the ps4.
From a ps4 version review.
That said, the game looked great running on the PS4 (and better than when I last played a year or so ago) and was running between 30 and 50 frames per second before optimization. There's still no mini-map or store, but the loadout screens and other parts of the UI are complete. YOU CAN TOGGLE AIM ASSIST OFF AND ON. The touch pad on the DualShock 4 will allow you to map certain commands to different areas (if you've gotten the hang of that giant button).
Jump in and farm!, fk yeah!.
That was spiffing.
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Michael Arck
5494
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:44:00 -
[56] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå
Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too.
From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here.
All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain.
LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals.
Archistrategos
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:47:00 -
[57] - Quote
I am sure it was just an instant badpost, and nothing deeper.
While team True Grit was assigned to the dust - integration tasks FoxFour was really active in the community. Much more so than he had to be for work.
To the point of manning several irc channels, and playing random squads.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3299
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
That could also be the reason everyone ideas failed quite badly in some cases. Fox fours a nice guy but he should never have been a designer he just didn't get FPS mindset or what we wanted
You can never have to many chaples
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
9309
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:58:00 -
[59] - Quote
BAMM HAVOC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs
Because it's the internet.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
9309
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:01:00 -
[60] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals.
If Dust had started on the PC before hand, it would've been much better developed and be ready in time for the PS4 release. But that never happened obviously.
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Hand Fap
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:10:00 -
[61] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. If Dust had started on the PC before hand, it would've been much better developed and be ready in time for the PS4 release. But that never happened obviously. that would of had make sense but oh well
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Kalante Schiffer
xXNatural-DisasterXx
726
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
thanks to devs like this guy dust never has worked properly can you believe we still have lag and low drops in frame rate in PC after more than a year?
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5547
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:16:00 -
[63] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals.
The whole game would have been more eve like in the manner that we'd interact with the whole galaxy rather than being annexed to molden heath (which is pretty useless space in eve might i add) and simply playing random matches where we just magically teleport all over the galaxy and don't even explore it. We aren't even tied in to the economy.
The whole galaxy of content is already there.
Right off the bat we'd have at least 15k players at peak times as ccps playerbase is in eve and dust would have been linked to eve. There'd be a hell of a lot more to do because it would be linked to eve.
They could have actually fixed dust a lot by making it so we still play the game how it is in a manner, but capsuleers in space would call the shots and hire us to take and hold land that they own. We'd still be playing the same game as mercenaries and the more complex stuff would have been done in eve where they would have had the capability to do all the stuff that dust could have had anyway. they could have actually used the planets for a myriad of things and there'd be no worry about opening up more space for conquest because it's already in eve anyway. The capsuleers would have the means to make much more use of planets and do much, much more and in turn, it would have made the game much more dynamic for us.
Corps in dust could have been hired from a roster, we'd set our price for rent etc. Maybe the eve corps would have manufactured items so we could possibly get all our items paid for as a bonus by some corps?, a before match armoury perhaps?, the choices for integration could have been so much more and eve and dust corps would have made a lot of interaction because they'd have to. There'd have still been pubs, fw and planetary conquest. Maybe in fw, eve pilots could have had the option to bring clones to specific battles by installing mobile crus in their ship, we'd then do fw as normal and be transported by a fleet with guaranteed ob support. Naturally you could just spawn in randomly anyway but for people who are more organised, there'd have been a bit more depth if they wanted.
A good example is transport. The eve players at least could have transported us around the galaxy and while they get X amount of jumps as an eta, we'd get the timer and this could be anywhere from less than a minute to maybe a lot more. It would have made it all much more dynamic and dust wouldn't have needed to change much, the content would have been made in eve, we'd still be playing this game but with more interaction and a better feeling of immersion.
Quite a few people suggested stuff like this but it was shot down every time.
Naturally, the masses didn't want any of that and you can see the grand outcome in planetary conquest, a more time consuming version of skirmish with no actual logistics or anything, no interaction with eve really and annexed to molden heath, yawn.
And i have been playing eve for maybe 5 months, dust for over a year and a half. I had the experience from much more in depth games from pc, that's why i knew this but i was p1ssing in he wind every time because we are on console.
Hopefully legion will fix that.
That was spiffing.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4215
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:23:00 -
[64] - Quote
I just assume that nothing of any importance can be expressed in 140 characters, so I ignore Twitter completely.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Kalante Schiffer
xXNatural-DisasterXx
727
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:25:00 -
[65] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:I just assume that nothing of any importance can be expressed in 140 characters, so I ignore Twitter completely. Right... just like the cee lo r*pe tweets?
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
774
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:26:00 -
[66] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:thanks to devs like this guy dust never has worked properly can you believe we still have lag and low drops in frame rate on PC after more than a year? and that is one of the many problems. Thankfully Rattati has done a lot these past few months trying to fix the issues left behind by the other devs, if he was here since uprising dust would be totally different.
foxfour works on CREST and the API endpoints for both eve and dust, you don't need to thank him, the masses of third party software developers already thank him on a daily basis
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1434
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:30:00 -
[67] - Quote
He's just mad he doesn't know how to code for them.
Kin Cat wrote: and why does everyone always overlook Nintendo when thinking about consoles? Sony would be nothing but a generic electronics company without them. Nintendo invented the console market.
Magnavox invented the console market in 1972. Nintendo didn't come out with their first console until 1977.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
2365
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jacques Cayton II wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. Or you could overhaul ps3 version throw it to ps4 transfer all player data and call that an upgrade. Then repeat for ps5. Wow I just blew your mind
Mind blown, CCP should hire you on the spot. Come at me bro, this thread was always going to degrade to a slugfest.
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Kalante Schiffer
xXNatural-DisasterXx
729
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:49:00 -
[69] - Quote
Tech De Ra wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:thanks to devs like this guy dust never has worked properly can you believe we still have lag and low drops in frame rate on PC after more than a year? and that is one of the many problems. Thankfully Rattati has done a lot these past few months trying to fix the issues left behind by the other devs, if he was here since uprising dust would be totally different. foxfour works on CREST and the API endpoints for both eve and dust, you don't need to thank him, the masses of third party software developers already thank him on a daily basis I am talking about a topic related about dust not what he is doing working outside of dust. I know that he was not the only person working on dust with that mentality that would just be ignorant to think that way. And no i dont thank him after him saying "f*ck consoles?." basically saying eew consoles i am not touching that. That is just not professional attitude.
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JudgeIsABadPilot
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:19:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jacques Cayton II wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. Or you could overhaul ps3 version throw it to ps4 transfer all player data and call that an upgrade. Then repeat for ps5. Wow I just blew your mind Oh yeah, along with all the money people blew on the game, have them spend another $500 to play Dust. Yeah, real great idea you have there. |
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3145
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:38:00 -
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All you people making noises about PC being better are ********.
Platform doesn't matter if leadership waffles on the design, or moves the goalposts on the developers.
None of the problems with Dust were the fault of the hardware, or even the developers. The entire problem was project management and corp leadership from what I was able to discern.
A PC build will encounter the same dynamic, and same outcome under these conditions.
Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3381
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:39:00 -
[72] - Quote
Alright, this thread needs to die.
1. First and foremost, CCP FoxFour is like one of the best devs at CCP, and one of the top devs we ever had here on DUST. He deserves praise, affection, and cookies. People trying to call him out or get him in trouble should be lined up and shot. /personalopinion
2. CCP FoxFour works on EVE now., when he worked on DUST, he worked heavily on the link to EVE. He also has no bearing on Legion development or whether or not it ever makes it to PS4, or any decisions regarding DUST 514, as he is a software engineer, not an executive, producer, or other high-ranking leadership.
3. Even though CCP FoxFour no longer works on DUST, he's snuck in a few features for DUST players into his work on the API anyways. That speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community, even though he's working on another thing now.
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Immortal John Ripper
24441
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:06:00 -
[73] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Alright, this thread needs to die.
1. First and foremost, CCP FoxFour is like one of the best devs at CCP, and one of the top devs we ever had here on DUST. He deserves praise, affection, and cookies. People trying to call him out or get him in trouble should be lined up and shot. /personalopinion
2. CCP FoxFour works on EVE now., when he worked on DUST, he worked heavily on the link to EVE. He also has no bearing on Legion development or whether or not it ever makes it to PS4, or any decisions regarding DUST 514, as he is a software engineer, not an executive, producer, or other high-ranking leadership.
3. Even though CCP FoxFour no longer works on DUST, he's snuck in a few features for DUST players into his work on the API anyways. That speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community, even though he's working on another thing now.
You should have stayed away. Out of respect for you, I will not personally troll you. I will let the forum nonfactors with less than 20k likes do it.
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General John Ripper
24445
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:06:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Alright, this thread needs to die.
1. First and foremost, CCP FoxFour is like one of the best devs at CCP, and one of the top devs we ever had here on DUST. He deserves praise, affection, and cookies. People trying to call him out or get him in trouble should be lined up and shot. /personalopinion
2. CCP FoxFour works on EVE now., when he worked on DUST, he worked heavily on the link to EVE. He also has no bearing on Legion development or whether or not it ever makes it to PS4, or any decisions regarding DUST 514, as he is a software engineer, not an executive, producer, or other high-ranking leadership.
3. Even though CCP FoxFour no longer works on DUST, he's snuck in a few features for DUST players into his work on the API anyways. That speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community, even though he's working on another thing now.
You should have stayed away. Out of respect for you, I will not personally troll you. I will let the forum nonfactors with less than 20k likes do it.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3382
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:12:00 -
[75] - Quote
GJR, honestly, the thread makes me angry. I don't like when people point cannons at people who don't deserve it. CCP FoxFour was one of the most interactive devs here on the DUST forums.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
779
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote: I am talking about a topic related about dust not what he is doing working outside of dust. I know that he was not the only person working on dust with that mentality that would just be ignorant to think that way. And no i dont thank him after him saying "f*ck consoles?." basically saying eew consoles i am not touching that. That is just not professional attitude.
So basically you don't have a clue what he did and you assume the fact that he prefers pc games in a personal comment on a personal account on a social website when asked about another game, that this "mentality" carries into his job at CCP
you don't have a ******* clue mate, you're trying to jump on the hate bandwagon that bamm is trying to stir up and you don't know the first thing about who the dev was, what he did and the fact that devs also have personal lives and opinions outside of the job
Get a clue and stop spouting hate mongering shite
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Immortal John Ripper
24441
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:32:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:GJR, honestly, the thread makes me angry. I don't like when people point cannons at people who don't deserve it. CCP FoxFour was one of the most interactive devs here on the DUST forums.
But he does deserve something. Perhaps this whole thing is being blown out of proportion, but the player base's butthurt has never gone away. Now they have something or someone to blame. Now some people feel worse about the outlook of this game when someone who has worked with this game says such a comment.
It was unprofessional and insensitive to this community. You want to forgive him for past experiences and the effort he put into this game... Well that is fine but not everyone is so forgiving. Ever had a girl tell you she loves you then cheat on you the next day? FoxFour was well liked by the community before this and now look at how riled up people got with one little comment.
FoxFour WAS one of the most interactive devs... but not anymore. It seems he doesn't want to have much to do with dust anymore and that is fine by me. I rather have a dev who wants to work on this game and believes in this game than one who doesn't. His personal feelings are his own but if his feelings reflect that of other devs working on this game, then there truely is no hope for this game. I am wondering if we will get a response from ccp although I am not sure another reassurance will do much good. This game has a bad stigma that it can't seem to shake off of it.
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General John Ripper
24445
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:32:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:GJR, honestly, the thread makes me angry. I don't like when people point cannons at people who don't deserve it. CCP FoxFour was one of the most interactive devs here on the DUST forums.
But he does deserve something. Perhaps this whole thing is being blown out of proportion, but the player base's butthurt has never gone away. Now they have something or someone to blame. Now some people feel worse about the outlook of this game when someone who has worked with this game says such a comment.
It was unprofessional and insensitive to this community. You want to forgive him for past experiences and the effort he put into this game... Well that is fine but not everyone is so forgiving. Ever had a girl tell you she loves you then cheat on you the next day? FoxFour was well liked by the community before this and now look at how riled up people got with one little comment.
FoxFour WAS one of the most interactive devs... but not anymore. It seems he doesn't want to have much to do with dust anymore and that is fine by me. I rather have a dev who wants to work on this game and believes in this game than one who doesn't. His personal feelings are his own but if his feelings reflect that of other devs working on this game, then there truely is no hope for this game. I am wondering if we will get a response from ccp although I am not sure another reassurance will do much good. This game has a bad stigma that it can't seem to shake off of it.
His comment could be interpreted as a joke but it could also be interpreted as he meant what he said. I have seen him rage a few times and I can't blame him. Most of the dev's hide from this toxic community.
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:47:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals.
Swatting happpens waaaay waay more on PC than it does on consoles. Just saying.
but anyways, wow, this thread just exploded from last night. I'm getting two things from this tweet. 1 That Foxfour is human and he has things he likes (and apparently hates) and 2. that this is sort of indicative that CCP did not enjoy their time with Dust and kind of want to wash their hands of the whole thing.
1. I'm ok with this one. Foxfour doesn't speak for Dust (necessarily), and I think people should be allowed to voice their opinions... even if it comes across as mean spirited. And just like he doesn't like consoles, I don't have to like his tweets.
2. But this one makes me wonder why CCP wasn't more transparent with their community. If they were struggling with Dust why not come to terms with it, see what could be accomplished, and outline a plan for the future with input from the players? Instead we get Legion dropping on us at fan fest with no prior warning and most of the dev crew jumping ship.
I bet that if the player base knew what was going on from the beginning they would have been far more willing to accept and support Legion.
My other car is Utena
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3383
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:47:00 -
[80] - Quote
Well, he's not active over here anymore because he literally does not work on this game anymore. And that's not necessarily his decision either.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5555
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:51:00 -
[81] - Quote
Riruodo wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. Swatting happpens waaaay waay more on PC than it does on consoles. Just saying. but anyways, wow, this thread just exploded from last night. I'm getting two things from this tweet. 1 That Foxfour is human and he has things he likes (and apparently hates) and 2. that this is sort of indicative that CCP did not enjoy their time with Dust and kind of want to wash their hands of the whole thing. 1. I'm ok with this one. Foxfour doesn't speak for Dust (necessarily), and I think people should be allowed to voice their opinions... even if it comes across as mean spirited. And just like he doesn't like consoles, I don't have to like his tweets. 2. But this one makes me wonder why CCP wasn't more transparent with their community. If they were struggling with Dust why not come to terms with it, see what could be accomplished, and outline a plan for the future with input from the players? Instead we get Legion dropping on us at fan fest with no prior warning and most of the dev crew jumping ship. I bet that if the player base knew what was going on from the beginning they would have been far more willing to accept and support Legion.
What exactly is swatting and how do people even begin to justify such a ridiculous thing?.
Mind blown.
That was spiffing.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3383
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:55:00 -
[82] - Quote
Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5555
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:57:00 -
[83] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in.
Wow, mind is double blown lol.
That was spiffing.
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howard sanchez
947
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Posted - 2014.09.11 18:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ripper has this much correct: some people on the dust forums are still upset about how ccp handled us at fan fest. And the reactions by some of those in this response to fox fours tweet may be driven by that residual butthurtness.
But CPM1 has it right too, fox four, while he was deving for dust seemed a very good guy who worked hard on this PS3 project.
Let's not get our swarms locked on the wrong target people. Ccp, the company, is responsible for what happened in May. The company may never have the guts or moral fortitude to own up for that. And while companies are made of individual people who make individual decisions about how to treat customers - not every person in a company is personally responsible for those decisions.
Fox four's tweet is out of context to ccp's fan fest dust debacle. Rouge and Hilmar should be feeling the heat for what they did. Not fox four.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1045
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Posted - 2014.09.11 18:03:00 -
[85] - Quote
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Um, excuse me. He was clearly kicking a round ball with his foot... I.e. Soccer. Football. American idea of football is handball, lol. Has nothing to do with feet/foot.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5555
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Posted - 2014.09.11 18:06:00 -
[86] - Quote
MarasdF Loron wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Um, excuse me. He was clearly kicking a round ball with his foot... I.e. Soccer. Football. American idea of football is handball, lol. Has nothing to do with feet/foot.
I have the same view but lets not start the whole 'you guys don't even speak your own language properly courtesy of noah webster' thing lol.
That was spiffing.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1275
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Posted - 2014.09.11 19:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
Atiim wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name? CCP FoxFour.
OMG. Of all people, HIM.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1536
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Posted - 2014.09.11 19:49:00 -
[88] - Quote
Immortal John Ripper wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Alright, this thread needs to die.
1. First and foremost, CCP FoxFour is like one of the best devs at CCP, and one of the top devs we ever had here on DUST. He deserves praise, affection, and cookies. People trying to call him out or get him in trouble should be lined up and shot. /personalopinion
2. CCP FoxFour works on EVE now., when he worked on DUST, he worked heavily on the link to EVE. He also has no bearing on Legion development or whether or not it ever makes it to PS4, or any decisions regarding DUST 514, as he is a software engineer, not an executive, producer, or other high-ranking leadership.
3. Even though CCP FoxFour no longer works on DUST, he's snuck in a few features for DUST players into his work on the API anyways. That speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community, even though he's working on another thing now. You should have stayed away. Out of respect for you, I will not personally troll you. I will let the forum nonfactors with less than 20k likes do it.
Well I for one will....
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3757
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Posted - 2014.09.11 19:53:00 -
[89] - Quote
MarasdF Loron wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Um, excuse me. He was clearly kicking a round ball with his foot... I.e. Soccer. Football. American idea of football is handball, lol. Has nothing to do with feet/foot. I originally wrote soccer in my post, but living overseas has lead me to change that response.
Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3757
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Posted - 2014.09.11 19:57:00 -
[90] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg
Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1537
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Posted - 2014.09.11 19:59:00 -
[91] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Alright, this thread needs to die.
1. First and foremost, CCP FoxFour is like one of the best devs at CCP, and one of the top devs we ever had here on DUST. He deserves praise, affection, and cookies. People trying to call him out or get him in trouble should be lined up and shot. /personalopinion
2. CCP FoxFour works on EVE now., when he worked on DUST, he worked heavily on the link to EVE. He also has no bearing on Legion development or whether or not it ever makes it to PS4, or any decisions regarding DUST 514, as he is a software engineer, not an executive, producer, or other high-ranking leadership.
3. Even though CCP FoxFour no longer works on DUST, he's snuck in a few features for DUST players into his work on the API anyways. That speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community, even though he's working on another thing now.
He deserves praise and attention when he has basically just said f-you to the entire DUST player base? The DUST player base is entirely on a console, also every penny spent on DUST from the point of view of the players are from console users.
People should be "shot" for calling him out on something that he himself typed? (regardless whether we personally agree or not it IS unprofessional of him)
"He worked heavily on the link to EVE" - What link to EVE?
"Speaks to his care and concern for the DUST community" - I find that very hard to believe considering he just said f**k that to the very thing he is supposed to support.
Regardless of that Rattati and others are trying to make amends with the DUST console community, trying to make the game better every hotfix and then this comes along!
I'm sorry but it sounds like you just have a high personal opinion of him. The fact is it was typed and then deleted. That says everything we need to know.
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3389
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:10:00 -
[92] - Quote
CommanderBolt, CCP FoxFour did not say "f- you" to the DUST playerbase. He indicated he did not like consoles. Personally. I do not like consoles either (I am a PC and Nintendo guy, I have no love for the PlayStation 3), though I will say I am massively committed to supporting console DUST players and the community that they've built.
I've actually never spoken with him personally, but people have their target crosshairs way off if they thing CCP FoxFour has done anything but his absolute best for DUST.
I'm guessing he deleted it because he realized something just like this thread would happen.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5562
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:14:00 -
[93] - Quote
Jadek Menaheim wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg
For target practice, that was a complete and utter gross display of gun ho, seriously.
That couldn't have been anymore improper and a blatant way to just p1ss money away for free target practice. The amount of crap they were packing was totally not realistic unless they plan on house sieges lasting about 3 days lol.
That is also completely fked up.
So how does s.w.a.t actually work because i see much more professional manner from the people i go airsoft with at my local site. Those people all seemed like newbs on their first day and seemed to be having minor complications with the most basic sht, the guy who wasn't holding his gun correctly for example, looked like a bucnh of armed clowns who just want to shoot stuff.
That was spiffing.
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1540
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:20:00 -
[94] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:CommanderBolt, CCP FoxFour did not say "f- you" to the DUST playerbase. He indicated he did not like consoles. Personally. I do not like consoles either (I am a PC and Nintendo guy, I have no love for the PlayStation 3), though I will say I am massively committed to supporting console DUST players and the community that they've built.
I've actually never spoken with him personally, but people have their target crosshairs way off if they thing CCP FoxFour has done anything but his absolute best for DUST.
I'm guessing he deleted it because he realized something just like this thread would happen.
After rethinking about this, I and others have probably over reacted a little bit. So I apologise for that.
I also truly appreciate the calm mannered response from you Soraya. I'm surprised. I guess I really do not know you as well as I like to think I do. (Going off of forum posts alone of course)
Let me be clear, I'm more mad just generally at CCP for the whole turn of events.
There were many of us that played EVE that really urged CCP to reconsider making DUST for the PS3 and instead to opt to make it as a PC game. A lot of us saw these kinds of problems arising. We later always found the notion of a 5-10 year plan for DUST as a niave one at best going off of the lifespan of average console games. Now we hear those same devs saying "**** consoles" its just like - that's what we were saying from day one!
I also feel kind of bad for some of the other DEVS.
I'm not a fan of consoles at all myself but there are a handful of games that made me get the PS3. (Metal Gear Solid games and DUST primarily for me)
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1540
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:21:00 -
[95] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg For target practice, that was a complete and utter gross display of gun ho, seriously. That couldn't have been anymore improper and a blatant way to just p1ss money away for free target practice. The amount of crap they were packing was totally not realistic unless they plan on house sieges lasting about 3 days lol. That is also completely fked up. So how does s.w.a.t actually work because i see much more professional manner from the people i go airsoft with at my local site. Those people all seemed like newbs on their first day and seemed to be having minor complications with the most basic sht, the guy who wasn't holding his gun correctly for example, looked like a bucnh of armed clowns who just want to shoot stuff.
That's the common perception the world has of America, right?
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5563
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:22:00 -
[96] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually.
It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg For target practice, that was a complete and utter gross display of gun ho, seriously. That couldn't have been anymore improper and a blatant way to just p1ss money away for free target practice. The amount of crap they were packing was totally not realistic unless they plan on house sieges lasting about 3 days lol. That is also completely fked up. So how does s.w.a.t actually work because i see much more professional manner from the people i go airsoft with at my local site. Those people all seemed like newbs on their first day and seemed to be having minor complications with the most basic sht, the guy who wasn't holding his gun correctly for example, looked like a bucnh of armed clowns who just want to shoot stuff. That's the common perception the world has of America, right?
Aye, like my black teeth and the fact i have tea for blood, wear a suit and live in a castle.
Edit: ah and the fact we have nothing here in the UK, we never had nothing, not even when America wasn't founded yet, we had nothing back then as well compared.
That was spiffing.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3390
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:31:00 -
[97] - Quote
CommanderBolt, I do have a trolling streak in me, so sometimes my posts will come off badly too. ;) It's the Goons, man, they rub off on you if you spend too much time near them.
I totally get the anger in the thread. I really do. Because I share it. But there is a wide variety of people who can be blamed for these issues, on the business and leadership side. But CCP FoxFour is just a dude who writes software. He writes the software his bosses tell him to write. (And a little extra for us DUST mercs sometimes.) But he doesn't decide what gets made for console or PC, and in some cases, he might fully agree with you or whomever else, but be unable to say it because one often does not speak contrary to the party line of the company when one wants to remain employed.
My personal view is that the decision to make a PS3 game was not necessarily a mistake. At least, it wasn't to blame for DUST's troubles. CCP bears sole responsibility, in my book, for DUST's success or failure on any platform. The hardware was plenty good enough, as seen by other games. My particular peeve, is the decision to change tracks, and switch platforms, in either direction. Whether Legion succeeds or fails, again, won't be because it's on PC. It'll be whether or not CCP has learned from it's mistakes with DUST.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
842
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
Soxfour trolls a baited question. BAMM sees it and twists a harmless* joke into somethin sinister. BAMM posts to forums to incite anger and rage. Its super effective! Sorya comes in to extinguish flames. GJR further stokes the fire by rolling a nat20 on "irrelevant but effective past butthurt" giving himself a x5 to smug. Soxfour declared an enemy to Dust.
Soldner shakes his head and drinks at the amount of pants on head retards in this thread.
*harmless as a Canadian troll working for a nordic indie gaming company can be. Srsly guys sox doesnt have an actual mean anything in his body.
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2171
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:42:00 -
[99] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG-7T2LVDc
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3305
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:11:00 -
[100] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Soxfour trolls a baited question. BAMM sees it and twists a harmless* joke into somethin sinister. BAMM posts to forums to incite anger and rage. Its super effective! Sorya comes in to extinguish flames. GJR further stokes the fire by rolling a nat20 on "irrelevant but effective past butthurt" giving himself a x5 to smug. Soxfour declared an enemy to Dust.
Soldner shakes his head and drinks at the amount of pants on head retards in this thread.
*harmless as a Canadian troll working for a nordic indie gaming company can be. Srsly guys sox doesnt have an actual mean anything in his body.
its a talent GJR has, everynow and then he comes out with a blinder post and crits everyone and leaves everyone else going where the **** did that come from while he runs around in background screaming
TACOS...TACOS FOR EVERYONE
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5565
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:30:00 -
[101] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG-7T2LVDc
Wow, the comments were juicy below the video lol.
That was spiffing.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
845
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:31:00 -
[102] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Soxfour trolls a baited question. BAMM sees it and twists a harmless* joke into somethin sinister. BAMM posts to forums to incite anger and rage. Its super effective! Sorya comes in to extinguish flames. GJR further stokes the fire by rolling a nat20 on "irrelevant but effective past butthurt" giving himself a x5 to smug. Soxfour declared an enemy to Dust.
Soldner shakes his head and drinks at the amount of pants on head retards in this thread.
*harmless as a Canadian troll working for a nordic indie gaming company can be. Srsly guys sox doesnt have an actual mean anything in his body. its a talent GJR has, everynow and then he comes out with a blinder post and crits everyone and leaves everyone else going where the **** did that come from while he runs around in background screaming TACOS...TACOS FOR EVERYONE
Quite possibly the most accurate post in this thread.
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1545
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:41:00 -
[103] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Soxfour trolls a baited question. BAMM sees it and twists a harmless* joke into somethin sinister. BAMM posts to forums to incite anger and rage. Its super effective! Sorya comes in to extinguish flames. GJR further stokes the fire by rolling a nat20 on "irrelevant but effective past butthurt" giving himself a x5 to smug. Soxfour declared an enemy to Dust.
Soldner shakes his head and drinks at the amount of pants on head retards in this thread.
*harmless as a Canadian troll working for a nordic indie gaming company can be. Srsly guys sox doesnt have an actual mean anything in his body. its a talent GJR has, everynow and then he comes out with a blinder post and crits everyone and leaves everyone else going where the **** did that come from while he runs around in background screaming TACOS...TACOS FOR EVERYONE Quite possibly the most accurate post in this thread.
To be fair he had me at the "crits everyone" part. =)
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Major 0nslaught
51
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:55:00 -
[104] - Quote
This is starting to turn into another GJR fan thread.
*please notice me!*
Forgive me, I speak English.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5845
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:04:00 -
[105] - Quote
Maybe he partakes in sexual activities with electronic gaming systems. |
Djinn SouI
Molden Heath PoIice Department
71
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:16:00 -
[106] - Quote
I don't see what the big deal is about him! All you forum people always have to constantly be on GJR's nuts all the time and for what?? Tacos?!?!
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The Noob Destroyer
1060
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:17:00 -
[107] - Quote
Knight Soiaire wrote:Maybe he partakes in sexual activities with electronic gaming systems. I wouldn't be surprised.
and GJR FTW!
Who am I?
I am just a nobody.
Like facts? #GetFact!
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GeneraI John Ripper
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:19:00 -
[108] - Quote
wtf, you guys are still talking about me??
and who is this Immortal John Ripper character anyways? |
XxFRIJOLESxX
MEXICAN BUFFET
1
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:31:00 -
[109] - Quote
I haven't seen GJR at the Mexican Buffet for a while so I got worried and I came here. |
DlJNN SouI
1
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:34:00 -
[110] - Quote
GeneraI John Ripper wrote:wtf, you guys are still talking about me??
and who is this Immortal John Ripper character anyways? Well I guess that just means your so cool that people make accounts to pretend to be you.
*stares at imposter djinn soul*
I am the real Soul.
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Admiral John Ripper
59
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:57:00 -
[111] - Quote
Did somebody call for an impostor?
Trolling. It is what I do.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
9315
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:00:00 -
[112] - Quote
Damn, I always liked soxfour.
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1388
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:20:00 -
[113] - Quote
Admiral John Ripper wrote:Did somebody call for an impostor? Oh god.
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
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Shooter Somewhere
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
101
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:24:00 -
[114] - Quote
CCP and CPM response so far.
*No comment*
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo
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Immortal John Ripper
24465
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:27:00 -
[115] - Quote
Vapor Forseti wrote:Admiral John Ripper wrote:Did somebody call for an impostor? Oh god. I have no idea what is going on in this thread anymore.
Doubling Billions of isk!
I will double ALL isk from now until the15th!!
No amounts under 5m. Don't waste my time.
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howard sanchez
953
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:09:00 -
[116] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:CommanderBolt, CCP FoxFour did not say "f- you" to the DUST playerbase. He indicated he did not like consoles. Personally. I do not like consoles either (I am a PC and Nintendo guy, I have no love for the PlayStation 3), though I will say I am massively committed to supporting console DUST players and the community that they've built.
I've actually never spoken with him personally, but people have their target crosshairs way off if they thing CCP FoxFour has done anything but his absolute best for DUST.
I'm guessing he deleted it because he realized something just like this thread would happen. After rethinking about this, I and others have probably over reacted a little bit. So I apologise for that. I also truly appreciate the calm mannered response from you Soraya. I'm surprised. I guess I really do not know you as well as I like to think I do. (Going off of forum posts alone of course) Let me be clear, I'm more mad just generally at CCP for the whole turn of events. There were many of us that played EVE that really urged CCP to reconsider making DUST for the PS3 and instead to opt to make it as a PC game. A lot of us saw these kinds of problems arising. We later always found the notion of a 5-10 year plan for DUST as a niave one at best going off of the lifespan of average console games. Now we hear those same devs saying "**** consoles" its just like - that's what we were saying from day one! I also feel kind of bad for some of the other DEVS. I'm not a fan of consoles at all myself but there are a handful of games that made me get the PS3. (Metal Gear Solid games and DUST primarily for me) QFT
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howard sanchez
953
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:14:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:CommanderBolt, I do have a trolling streak in me, so sometimes my posts will come off badly too. ;) It's the Goons, man, they rub off on you if you spend too much time near them.
I totally get the anger in the thread. I really do. Because I share it. But there is a wide variety of people who can be blamed for these issues, on the business and leadership side. But CCP FoxFour is just a dude who writes software. He writes the software his bosses tell him to write. (And a little extra for us DUST mercs sometimes.) But he doesn't decide what gets made for console or PC, and in some cases, he might fully agree with you or whomever else, but be unable to say it because one often does not speak contrary to the party line of the company when one wants to remain employed.
My personal view is that the decision to make a PS3 game was not necessarily a mistake. At least, it wasn't to blame for DUST's troubles. CCP bears sole responsibility, in my book, for DUST's success or failure on any platform. The hardware was plenty good enough, as seen by other games. My particular peeve, is the decision to change tracks, and switch platforms, in either direction. Whether Legion succeeds or fails, again, won't be because it's on PC. It'll be whether or not CCP has learned from it's mistakes with DUST. Q. F. T. !
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howard sanchez
953
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:16:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Soxfour trolls a baited question. BAMM sees it and twists a harmless* joke into somethin sinister. BAMM posts to forums to incite anger and rage. Its super effective! Sorya comes in to extinguish flames. GJR further stokes the fire by rolling a nat20 on "irrelevant but effective past butthurt" giving himself a x5 to smug. Soxfour declared an enemy to Dust.
Soldner shakes his head and drinks at the amount of pants on head retards in this thread.
*harmless as a Canadian troll working for a nordic indie gaming company can be. Srsly guys sox doesnt have an actual mean anything in his body. Look! This is why I can't make level one!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2396
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:07:00 -
[119] - Quote
Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new.
So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS.
CCP has upgraded through how many Platforms on PC? A Platform for DUST 514 say even every 5 years is to much for a persistent based game?
EVE went through MAC, like 6 versions of Windows and Directx, Linux... Upgrading around the average users computing system while giving graphical wonder.
CCP had forward knowledge of the PS4 launch and did nothing about it. not even a tech demo...
Shooters just don;t do well on PC... Warframe makes more money of PS4 then it does off PC... And there is a pretty massive difference in market size between the two. Planetside 2 server populations combined are that of DUST in Open Beta..
It will be sad but Legion won't pull the numbers in any long run... And DUST has been treated like a red headed stepchild for 2 years Destroying CCP's name and credibility on consoles. Some on these Forums might have a High opinions of DUST But the rest of the gaming community looks on with disdain. |
IVIaster LUKE
679
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:37:00 -
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XxFRIJOLESxX wrote:I haven't seen GJR at the Mexican Buffet for a while so I got worried and I came here.
I love Poncho's Buffet.
Those Puffy Tacos are pure heaven.
P.s. *Raises* flag???more please.
Displays International Peace Sign middle finger to ISIS and all future dead jihadist.
R.I.P. BENDECCO 1970 - 2014
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Pure Soylent
Xer Cloud Consortium
35
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:40:00 -
[121] - Quote
IVIaster LUKE wrote:XxFRIJOLESxX wrote:I haven't seen GJR at the Mexican Buffet for a while so I got worried and I came here. I love Poncho's Buffet. Those Puffy Tacos are pure heaven. P.s. *Raises* flag???more please. Well I know the special meat they serve at the Buffet on Tuesdays...you'll never guess. |
Spaceballs The Profile
Spaceballs the Business Venture
194
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:42:00 -
[122] - Quote
Vapor Forseti wrote:Admiral John Ripper wrote:Did somebody call for an impostor? Oh god. As long as he doesn't guess the code to my luggage I think we are all safe. |
The Johnny Blaze
Nicholas Cage Fighters
3
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:43:00 -
[123] - Quote
KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:If he worked for CCP, what was his dev name? CCP Nicholas Cage...our lord and savior!!!!
Do you have what it takes to enter the Cage?
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
125
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:45:00 -
[124] - Quote
This is why he'll never make it in the true game developing world.
~R1P
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Customer Service 17032760100
The Phone Book
16
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:46:00 -
[125] - Quote
BAMM HAVOC wrote:i don't mind people deleting tweets, but when there is a **** up like this one then just man up and own it. If you are upset BAMM may I give you service. I will put you on hold long time.
Is your number in the Phone Book?
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Goodtime Call 6054756968
The Phone Book
4
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:48:00 -
[126] - Quote
Customer Service 17032760100 wrote: If you want Goodtime, the General John Ripper can provide.
Is your number in the Phone Book?
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Travel NorthKorea 2036135283
The Phone Book
1
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:49:00 -
[127] - Quote
^^^ The General is waiting for you with premium accommodations in beautiful Pyongyang. You will not be unsatisfied. I can assure you.
Is your number in the Phone Book?
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Seems Good
We Can Trust Them
653
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:54:00 -
[128] - Quote
What the hell are you up to GJR? |
Seems Good
We Can Trust Them
653
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:55:00 -
[129] - Quote
Major 0nslaught wrote:This is starting to turn into another GJR fan thread.
*please notice me!* Certainly looks like it. WTF? |
DJINN B4lock
Ancient Textiles.
411
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:02:00 -
[130] - Quote
Well. With the way this is going. In B4 the next GJR alt?
How many does he have?
DJINN B4lock, CEO Ancient Textiles. The premium emporium of fine fabrics from the dusty Orient.
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Boot Booter
Pure Evil.
925
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:05:00 -
[131] - Quote
I don't care.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Thailand TouristPolice 1155
The Phone Book
0
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:05:00 -
[132] - Quote
DJINN B4lock wrote:Well. With the way this is going. In B4 the next GJR alt?
How many does he have?
Boot Booter wrote:I don't care. Are you two questioning the legitimacy of our General? How dare you. HOW DARE YOU! |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3767
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:08:00 -
[133] - Quote
I think we're getting way off topic here.
Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
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Obese Police 18009312237
The Phone Book
0
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:09:00 -
[134] - Quote
Jadek Menaheim wrote:I think we're getting way off topic here. No |
Obese Police 18009312237
The Phone Book
0
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Posted - 2014.09.12 04:10:00 -
[135] - Quote
Eat a Taco civilian. |
General John Ripper
24486
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Posted - 2014.09.12 09:23:00 -
[136] - Quote
Doubling Billions of isk!
I will double ALL isk from now until the15th!!
No amounts under 5m. Don't waste my time.
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Immortal John Ripper
24488
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Posted - 2014.09.12 09:23:00 -
[137] - Quote
Doubling Billions of isk!
I will double ALL isk from now until the15th!!
No amounts under 5m. Don't waste my time.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
560
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:20:00 -
[138] - Quote
well it seems that CCPFoxFour now has a official CCP corporate account @CCPFoxFour .
Guys please follow this new account retweet, follow and send him lots of Dust514 love I have !
BEER TIME !
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1393
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:40:00 -
[139] - Quote
.............
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
923
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:11:00 -
[140] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote: Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Headshot!
Please support fair play!
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CommanderBolt
TerranProtossZerg
1570
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Posted - 2014.09.12 15:00:00 -
[141] - Quote
What the hell happened in this thread? lol!
These forums..... the best of threads, the worst of threads.
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
853
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:11:00 -
[142] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:What the hell happened in this thread? lol!
These forums..... the best of threads, the worst of threads.
You havent spent much time on WoW forums have you?
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3319
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Posted - 2014.09.12 17:18:00 -
[143] - Quote
man you want bad fourms try the original planet-side ones it reahed the point where sony could not even make their communty team go near them. it was like i want you on the planet-side team...... community rep "i quit"
"what but you have not even"....."im sorry sir he has allready left the building and country"
no joke i think we went though like 3 in as many months
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Maximus Aurelicus
Gallente Federation Resistance General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.09.14 01:17:00 -
[144] - Quote
CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance Likes received: 14,590
#38 Posted: 2014.04.24 22:29 | Report 3 I hate you all...
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer
http://twitter.com/regnerba
Keep getting Blueprints as you play after creating account through this
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SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
113
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Posted - 2014.09.14 01:22:00 -
[145] - Quote
John Psi wrote:ZDub 303 wrote: Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs.
f&$^ consoles.
Headshot! plz headshot yourself, WoW mainstreamed MMO's. Before it was just playing against a bunch of neck beard who will clock in more hours then you - then WoW came and made it all noob friendly, opening up the genre for all sorts of creators to get on board, eventually exposing the F2P market we enjoy today.
And PC gaming was never on the level of console gaming. If it's one thing the VITA has proven - better specs doesn't make for a better experience. |
Immortal John Ripper
24573
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Posted - 2014.09.14 16:30:00 -
[146] - Quote
Finally back on topic. Anyways I decided to forgive FoxFour.
Your welcome, Fox. Maybe now we can let this thing die.
Doubling Billions of isk!
I will double ALL isk from now until the15th!!
No amounts under 5m. Don't waste my time.
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General John Ripper
26321
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Posted - 2014.09.14 16:30:00 -
[147] - Quote
Finally back on topic. Anyways I decided to forgive FoxFour.
Your welcome, Fox. Maybe now we can let this thing die.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3245
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:38:00 -
[148] - Quote
Fox Four talks and looks like a person who had a terrible highschool and post secondary experience
He is a perfect fit for CCP IMHO
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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Funkmaster Whale
Fatal Absolution
2464
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:45:00 -
[149] - Quote
I see nothing wrong with his post. F$%k consoles indeed.
/cast Flame Shield
#PCMasterRace
Follow me on Twitch.tv!
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Major 0nslaught
57
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:11:00 -
[150] - Quote
This tweet still makes me sad.
Life is like a box of Proto Locust grenades. You never know what random red berry you're gonna get.
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Vesta Opalus
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
225
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:32:00 -
[151] - Quote
Riruodo wrote:what a jerk. you don't have to like a console, but what did consoles ever do to you?
Dumbed down games in the name of easy cross platform porting? |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5360
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:34:00 -
[152] - Quote
I want a "**** Consoles" -CCP Foxfour t-shirt.
My advice to you, playa...
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1813
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:43:00 -
[153] - Quote
Someone needs to go to Fanfest dressed as a console and say "F**k you too" upon meeting Foxfour.
The horror! The horror!
( -íº -£-û -íº)
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
818
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:03:00 -
[154] - Quote
inb4 lock?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Immortal John Ripper
26318
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:06:00 -
[155] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:inb4 lock? we are on page 8 lol.
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General John Ripper
26321
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:06:00 -
[156] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:inb4 lock? we are on page 8 lol.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2205
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:08:00 -
[157] - Quote
*Waiting for the forums to calm the **** down and learn sarcasm*
I Live for Tears
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2205
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:09:00 -
[158] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:I want a "**** Consoles" -CCP Foxfour t-shirt. Ill do that.
There's a T-Shirt Parlor(?) where you can make your own T-Shirts at the mall in my town.
I'll put a picture of a PS3 On it.
I Live for Tears
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:19:00 -
[159] - Quote
consoles are going down the tubes anyway.. there all trying to put some element of farmville into console gaming and aim assist only grows stronger.. before COD most FPS had FF on by default.. offline you just faceroll your controller thru a bad story mode. if you want to play hardcore or complex player driven games your best option is to go PC. no dev on console has the balls to throw back to old school gaming. take diablo 3 for instance, yea the streamlining is nice but the game feels extremely dumbed down and they just totally took a crap on their PVP fanbase. consoles have put their original fans on a shelf. cant really blame him for making the comment.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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CharacterNameWasTaken
315
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:20:00 -
[160] - Quote
Immortal John Ripper wrote:SEE?!?!?
Now you guys must be glad that I started the chain of events that eventually made FoxFour lose 100k likes. It was for this reason I started my war against this dev. He is pure evil! ^ gjr is actually foxfours alt and he has been fooling you this whole time. HES A WITCH BURN HIM AT THE STEAK.
"Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5365
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:58:00 -
[161] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:I'll do that.
There's a T-Shirt Parlor(?) where you can make your own T-Shirts at the mall in my town.
I'll put a picture of a PS3 On it. On the back, just above the ass: #PCMasterRace
I'd buy that for a dollar!
My advice to you, playa...
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2209
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:02:00 -
[162] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I'll do that.
There's a T-Shirt Parlor(?) where you can make your own T-Shirts at the mall in my town.
I'll put a picture of a PS3 On it. On the back, just above the ass: #PCMasterRace I'd buy that for a dollar! A dollar?
Man, those things are twenty bucks!
I Live for Tears
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3068
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:02:00 -
[163] - Quote
Tongue in cheek is tongue in cheek. You guys really should know better. Trolls.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5365
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:11:00 -
[164] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:A dollar?
Man, those things are twenty bucks! Someone hasn't seen Robocop.
My advice to you, playa...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6373
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:13:00 -
[165] - Quote
Major 0nslaught wrote:This tweet still makes me sad. Random Redberry?
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2210
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:32:00 -
[166] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:A dollar?
Man, those things are twenty bucks! Someone hasn't seen Robocop. Which one?
I Live for Tears
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