DUST Search - A Dev Tweet that i think you might find interesting

Riruodo wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals.

Swatting happpens waaaay waay more on PC than it does on consoles. Just saying.

but anyways, wow, this thread just exploded from last night. I'm getting two things from this tweet. 1 That Foxfour is human and he has things he likes (and apparently hates) and 2. that this is sort of indicative that CCP did not enjoy their time with Dust and kind of want to wash their hands of the whole thing.

1. I'm ok with this one. Foxfour doesn't speak for Dust (necessarily), and I think people should be allowed to voice their opinions... even if it comes across as mean spirited. And just like he doesn't like consoles, I don't have to like his tweets.

2. But this one makes me wonder why CCP wasn't more transparent with their community. If they were struggling with Dust why not come to terms with it, see what could be accomplished, and outline a plan for the future with input from the players? Instead we get Legion dropping on us at fan fest with no prior warning and most of the dev crew jumping ship.

I bet that if the player base knew what was going on from the beginning they would have been far more willing to accept and support Legion.


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TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5543	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:26:00 - [1] - Quote Its a social network site, he can say what he wants. Console is sht to be developing a game that is supposed to be linked to eve as well. They tried developing a brand new and ground breaking game on a machine that has a playerbase who for the most part, have no experience with in depth and decent games. Case in point, mag. Private servers with unlimited pop cap>lolmag. Jokes on ccp. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5544	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:55:00 - [2] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs Even if he is serious, that doesn't matter. Just because he is a dev, it doesn't mean that he is no longer allowed to be human and voice his opinion. Regardless, ccp has eve which makes a lot of money and dust will still be making money with aurum so they have an obligation to keep it running until it starts costing money. Thats why development is so slow i believe, because to keep it they must make it so it is not costing money. If they behave like 99% of all companies on earth, then this will be the case. They also admitted that they have cut down the dev team so it must be. I think ccp does have a lot of love for dust otherwise they'd have just scrapped it. They can't simply be deleting a whole games worth of info as it is also good for the building blocks for another game cough legion. And they certainly can't be p1ssing off their investors anymore than they probably already did with that vampire game. They scrapped about 10 years of work i believe, ouch. Edit: dont be forgetting that most of their playerbase is on pc as well. This would make it even 'easier' to scrap as well if they wanted. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5544	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:06:00 - [3] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. My friend suggested i tried star wars the old republic. It was a fking wow clone from an early build that was re skinned as star wars. Hutt ball?. Oh rich storyline?. Books much?. GTFO!. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5545	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:17:00 - [4] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase? They are both as shtty as each other but pc gamers have more experience with more 'complex' games and so better feedback. An example is ultiima online vs diablo. Ultiima online - just as good and in depth as WoW but you could DO MUCH MORE. and pvp almost anywhere. It was the eve of fantasy styled mmo's. Diablo - A linear dungeon raider where you point and click over and over and over again....... They both came in the same year, In fact diablo didn't come to console until a few years later......1998. With the ps4 though, console players are catching up, kind of. I think the ps4 is good for next gen games for many years to come. I have one but all the games are re hashed crap with nice graphics. I never played bf3 but i have bf4 with premium and im guessing that the let down i experienced and the bland and shtty game play is exactly what a lot of bf vets feel because they don't seem too happy with it either. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5546	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:29:00 - [5] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb If I were a Dust developer, I'd probably be feeling the same way SoxFour feels about this whole thing. SoxFour just wasn't that reserved as compared to other Devs. I'm not saying CCP hates their Dust playerbase, but if Dust's playerbase is so whiny, terrible, and demanding; who wouldn't hate them? My 2 certs. Fixed. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5547	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:40:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Hmm interesting responses there, you two. Thanks. I know I haven't budged to get a PS4 or a X1 yet. Why buy those when they just pushing indies and remasters as now? I feel like they are robbing console gamers. For what you pay to own a console over time, I feel that money should be put into a PC, where the price of games are manageable and you can upgrade your PC as needs be. People say the next generation is always slow to start but to me, the truth is, I never seen the start of next gen move so slowly. People were saying "wait until 2014". Now its "wait until 2015". I think I'm starting to lean more towards the PC gaming, just for the maturer aspects it brings. Consoles, IMO, are ruined by the entitled individuals who demand the devs to bend to their wills like slaves. I don't see that in PC gaming. Of course they are not exempt from such attitudes, but I don't see it prevalent as in the console world. Anyway, who doesn't like to watch **** and then switch to a FPS on the fly? I do. That's why im looking forward to planetside 2 on the ps4. From a ps4 version review. That said, the game looked great running on the PS4 (and better than when I last played a year or so ago) and was running between 30 and 50 frames per second before optimization. There's still no mini-map or store, but the loadout screens and other parts of the UI are complete. YOU CAN TOGGLE AIM ASSIST OFF AND ON. The touch pad on the DualShock 4 will allow you to map certain commands to different areas (if you've gotten the hang of that giant button). Jump in and farm!, fk yeah!. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5547	Posted - 2014.09.11 15:16:00 - [7] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. The whole game would have been more eve like in the manner that we'd interact with the whole galaxy rather than being annexed to molden heath (which is pretty useless space in eve might i add) and simply playing random matches where we just magically teleport all over the galaxy and don't even explore it. We aren't even tied in to the economy. The whole galaxy of content is already there. Right off the bat we'd have at least 15k players at peak times as ccps playerbase is in eve and dust would have been linked to eve. There'd be a hell of a lot more to do because it would be linked to eve. They could have actually fixed dust a lot by making it so we still play the game how it is in a manner, but capsuleers in space would call the shots and hire us to take and hold land that they own. We'd still be playing the same game as mercenaries and the more complex stuff would have been done in eve where they would have had the capability to do all the stuff that dust could have had anyway. they could have actually used the planets for a myriad of things and there'd be no worry about opening up more space for conquest because it's already in eve anyway. The capsuleers would have the means to make much more use of planets and do much, much more and in turn, it would have made the game much more dynamic for us. Corps in dust could have been hired from a roster, we'd set our price for rent etc. Maybe the eve corps would have manufactured items so we could possibly get all our items paid for as a bonus by some corps?, a before match armoury perhaps?, the choices for integration could have been so much more and eve and dust corps would have made a lot of interaction because they'd have to. There'd have still been pubs, fw and planetary conquest. Maybe in fw, eve pilots could have had the option to bring clones to specific battles by installing mobile crus in their ship, we'd then do fw as normal and be transported by a fleet with guaranteed ob support. Naturally you could just spawn in randomly anyway but for people who are more organised, there'd have been a bit more depth if they wanted. A good example is transport. The eve players at least could have transported us around the galaxy and while they get X amount of jumps as an eta, we'd get the timer and this could be anywhere from less than a minute to maybe a lot more. It would have made it all much more dynamic and dust wouldn't have needed to change much, the content would have been made in eve, we'd still be playing this game but with more interaction and a better feeling of immersion. Quite a few people suggested stuff like this but it was shot down every time. Naturally, the masses didn't want any of that and you can see the grand outcome in planetary conquest, a more time consuming version of skirmish with no actual logistics or anything, no interaction with eve really and annexed to molden heath, yawn. And i have been playing eve for maybe 5 months, dust for over a year and a half. I had the experience from much more in depth games from pc, that's why i knew this but i was p1ssing in he wind every time because we are on console. Hopefully legion will fix that. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5555	Posted - 2014.09.11 17:51:00 - [8] - Quote Riruodo wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. Swatting happpens waaaay waay more on PC than it does on consoles. Just saying. but anyways, wow, this thread just exploded from last night. I'm getting two things from this tweet. 1 That Foxfour is human and he has things he likes (and apparently hates) and 2. that this is sort of indicative that CCP did not enjoy their time with Dust and kind of want to wash their hands of the whole thing. 1. I'm ok with this one. Foxfour doesn't speak for Dust (necessarily), and I think people should be allowed to voice their opinions... even if it comes across as mean spirited. And just like he doesn't like consoles, I don't have to like his tweets. 2. But this one makes me wonder why CCP wasn't more transparent with their community. If they were struggling with Dust why not come to terms with it, see what could be accomplished, and outline a plan for the future with input from the players? Instead we get Legion dropping on us at fan fest with no prior warning and most of the dev crew jumping ship. I bet that if the player base knew what was going on from the beginning they would have been far more willing to accept and support Legion. What exactly is swatting and how do people even begin to justify such a ridiculous thing?. Mind blown. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5555	Posted - 2014.09.11 17:57:00 - [9] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually. It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5555	Posted - 2014.09.11 18:06:00 - [10] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: This is because he tried to play football with a console once...ended poorly. http://youtu.be/U7D8V_oZuDU Um, excuse me. He was clearly kicking a round ball with his foot... I.e. Soccer. Football. American idea of football is handball, lol. Has nothing to do with feet/foot. I have the same view but lets not start the whole 'you guys don't even speak your own language properly courtesy of noah webster' thing lol. That was spiffing.

TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5562	Posted - 2014.09.11 20:14:00 - [11] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually. It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg For target practice, that was a complete and utter gross display of gun ho, seriously. That couldn't have been anymore improper and a blatant way to just p1ss money away for free target practice. The amount of crap they were packing was totally not realistic unless they plan on house sieges lasting about 3 days lol. That is also completely fked up. So how does s.w.a.t actually work because i see much more professional manner from the people i go airsoft with at my local site. Those people all seemed like newbs on their first day and seemed to be having minor complications with the most basic sht, the guy who wasn't holding his gun correctly for example, looked like a bucnh of armed clowns who just want to shoot stuff. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5563	Posted - 2014.09.11 20:22:00 - [12] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Swatting is a juvenile activity where you find generally, someone streaming their gaming on Twitch, figure out where they live (doxxing, digging up personal details of people you find on the Internet), and call in a fictional bomb threat or something. Then their local police department breaks down their door while the dude's gaming, and the swatter gets to hear it go down on the stream usually. It's a criminal act, of course, but it can be hard to track down who called it in. Wow, mind is double blown lol. If you want to know more, here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziLjOPCQwg For target practice, that was a complete and utter gross display of gun ho, seriously. That couldn't have been anymore improper and a blatant way to just p1ss money away for free target practice. The amount of crap they were packing was totally not realistic unless they plan on house sieges lasting about 3 days lol. That is also completely fked up. So how does s.w.a.t actually work because i see much more professional manner from the people i go airsoft with at my local site. Those people all seemed like newbs on their first day and seemed to be having minor complications with the most basic sht, the guy who wasn't holding his gun correctly for example, looked like a bucnh of armed clowns who just want to shoot stuff. That's the common perception the world has of America, right? Aye, like my black teeth and the fact i have tea for blood, wear a suit and live in a castle. Edit: ah and the fact we have nothing here in the UK, we never had nothing, not even when America wasn't founded yet, we had nothing back then as well compared. That was spiffing.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5565	Posted - 2014.09.11 21:30:00 - [13] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG-7T2LVDc Wow, the comments were juicy below the video lol. That was spiffing.