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Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1368	Posted - 2014.09.11 12:28:00 - [31] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I see no tweet, therefore I assume it got removed. What was it? SoxFour saying "F*k consoles?" (If my post gets edited, then I called it) I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.*
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 538	Posted - 2014.09.11 12:28:00 - [32] - Quote i was going to go on a long ranty post, about how an ex Dust Devs current attitude towards us and our community shows the willingness to bring Dust towards the PS4 as Legion, and how this draws into sharp contrast EVERYTHING that Ratatattat and LogiBroDudeBro are trying to rebuild .... but ill save it for another time, I'm sure he has been sufficiently re-briefed other wise that tweet would still stand. You see guys ocp do care, they really do. Again I will paraphrase a quote for some random blueberry : Don't watch what people say, watch what people do . oh, don't worry blue dot .... I am watching, we are all watching Don't worry CCP FoxFour, ill be sat in the same sensitivity training lecture as you dude, apparently people have these things called feelings vov . BEER TIME !
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 538	Posted - 2014.09.11 12:54:00 - [33] - Quote deleting tweets i see, not today sweet heart, not on my watch Re Tweet Tweet BEER TIME !
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1527	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:03:00 - [34] - Quote Does this really surprise you coming from CCP? The "Greed is Good" and all of the rest of the shenanigans that have come from them. The thing is I can somewhat get down with the "F**k Consoles" mantra but I'm just a player. Devs are meant to be more professional that this. The thing I dont get is - why one earth did you not make DUST for PC in the first place like most people argued for!? My goodness you made your own bed CCP..... -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12113	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:07:00 - [35] - Quote It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1527	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:12:00 - [36] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. I would respect him more if he stuck by his word and didn't delete it like a pu$$y......(One can only assume the higher ups forced him to) -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
NAV HIV The Generals 2099	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:13:00 - [37] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Well if you think about it differently, CCP probably wanted DUST 514 to succeed in the long-run, something they're known for with EVE. Except the PC long-run can only mean a growing playerbase as upgrading technology does not mean losing backwards compatibility. Consoles are the weakness to CCP's long term but consistent development. Next-gen consoles means everything they worked on on the current generation has to be updated and reworked to fit the architecture of the new. So you can kinda read it at face-value, a general derision for consoles, or go a bit deeper and interpret it as a hatred for how console generations work and its impact on their beloved console FPS. Good Developers with long term planning would've gone for Consoles... The number of PS4 sold, the number of players spending $$$ for Dust beta... Even if they charged $5 a month from all these players for a PS4 upgrade, they'd be willing to i guess... But this is what happens when they listen to bunch of cry babies for planning...
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2008	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:20:00 - [38] - Quote What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick. This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state? This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12115	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:22:00 - [39] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick. This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state? This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion. And CCP, as a whole, are dicks for it. Don't make a promise you can't keep, and don't lie about it right until the end. /ccpdidaurumsalesrightbeforefanfest Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5543	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:26:00 - [40] - Quote Its a social network site, he can say what he wants. Console is sht to be developing a game that is supposed to be linked to eve as well. They tried developing a brand new and ground breaking game on a machine that has a playerbase who for the most part, have no experience with in depth and decent games. Case in point, mag. Private servers with unlimited pop cap>lolmag. Jokes on ccp. That was spiffing.

BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 544	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:45:00 - [41] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs BEER TIME !
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 772	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:48:00 - [42] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5544	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:55:00 - [43] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs Even if he is serious, that doesn't matter. Just because he is a dev, it doesn't mean that he is no longer allowed to be human and voice his opinion. Regardless, ccp has eve which makes a lot of money and dust will still be making money with aurum so they have an obligation to keep it running until it starts costing money. Thats why development is so slow i believe, because to keep it they must make it so it is not costing money. If they behave like 99% of all companies on earth, then this will be the case. They also admitted that they have cut down the dev team so it must be. I think ccp does have a lot of love for dust otherwise they'd have just scrapped it. They can't simply be deleting a whole games worth of info as it is also good for the building blocks for another game cough legion. And they certainly can't be p1ssing off their investors anymore than they probably already did with that vampire game. They scrapped about 10 years of work i believe, ouch. Edit: dont be forgetting that most of their playerbase is on pc as well. This would make it even 'easier' to scrap as well if they wanted. That was spiffing.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3261	Posted - 2014.09.11 13:58:00 - [44] - Quote He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5544	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:06:00 - [45] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. My friend suggested i tried star wars the old republic. It was a fking wow clone from an early build that was re skinned as star wars. Hutt ball?. Oh rich storyline?. Books much?. GTFO!. That was spiffing.
Michael Arck 5490	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:06:00 - [46] - Quote Okay. Not sure who exactly who he is. Another guy says he doesn't even work on Dust anymore ** consoles! LOL! Developers has in the past talked about the complex architecture of PS3, reason why it was simpler more PC based on PS4 Eh, people got their preferences. He said nothing bad about my mother or family. We can't be that sensitive people. Archistrategos Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain**
Michael Arck 5490	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:08:00 - [47] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase? Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3263	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:15:00 - [48] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase? Its purely trolling. Unfortunately the whole PC vs. Console debate is so emotionally charged that a single 4/10 troll post can get a whole thread going in bad directions pretty quick. Is the console playerbase the same? Up until about 2 years I would say absolutely not. As the PC keeps increasing in graphical processing power faster than consoles can keep up though, I feel like we are starting to see more gamers who want more out of their system start reaching for a much more affordable and easier to build PC than they were in the past. I converted to PC gaming in 2010 as I primarily play MMOs anymore, I only played Dust at all because I have a friend who couldn't afford a PC back when uprising first launched. He's since finished his masters and found a job, so now we play PC games together. You'll find that a lot of people are saying they have no reason to buy a PS4/XB1. I wonder if that will change at all over the next 3-4 years. I certainly see no reason to buy one and part of me wishes that neither of them exist today so we might actually get some decently optimized PC games for once. Publishers are so lazy :( B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5545	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:17:00 - [49] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: He's right though... Scourge of the gaming industry. Consoles have ruined gaming like WoW ruined MMORPGs. f&$^ consoles. Keep in mind, for 99% of CCPs paying userbase, FanFest 2014 was not a PR f-up. It was just finally the point when CCP realized the mistake they had made with Dust and how they are going to correct it. Go back an watch the video, see how many people are cheering? Yep... f&$^ consoles. That's cold man. Ask you this, in your opinion, is the console playerbase the same as the PC playerbase? They are both as shtty as each other but pc gamers have more experience with more 'complex' games and so better feedback. An example is ultiima online vs diablo. Ultiima online - just as good and in depth as WoW but you could DO MUCH MORE. and pvp almost anywhere. It was the eve of fantasy styled mmo's. Diablo - A linear dungeon raider where you point and click over and over and over again....... They both came in the same year, In fact diablo didn't come to console until a few years later......1998. With the ps4 though, console players are catching up, kind of. I think the ps4 is good for next gen games for many years to come. I have one but all the games are re hashed crap with nice graphics. I never played bf3 but i have bf4 with premium and im guessing that the let down i experienced and the bland and shtty game play is exactly what a lot of bf vets feel because they don't seem too happy with it either. That was spiffing.
NAV HIV The Generals 2102	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:23:00 - [50] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: What can I say; CCP is back on track with where they started before being sidetracked into this console thing. Console players need to realize they aren't the main crowd for this whole DUST experiment. They were and are a second hand, expendable element that CCP is dumping d*mn quick. This detour should have never occured. Now the question is, can CCP actually develop anything other than EVE to a meaningful (final) state? This next year will prove it. It will have to be this next year. They will absolutely have to have something to show for their efforts at the next Fanfest or we can pretty much bet they aren't getting anywhere with Legion. It is because of scrub players and people like yourself, Dust went to the bins...

Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1372	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:27:00 - [51] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb If I were a Dust developer, I'd probably be feeling the same way SoxFour feels about this whole thing. SoxFour just wasn't that reserved as compared to other Devs. I'm not saying CCP hates their Dust playerbase, but if Dust's playerbase is so whiny, terrible, and demanding; who wouldn't hate them? My 2 cents. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5546	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:29:00 - [52] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs OMG ONE PERSON POSTED ONE COMMENT SO ITS A SHARED ATTITUDE AMONG THE DEVS seriously bamm, we know you're stirring the pot but you can at least admit it instead of pretending to be dumb If I were a Dust developer, I'd probably be feeling the same way SoxFour feels about this whole thing. SoxFour just wasn't that reserved as compared to other Devs. I'm not saying CCP hates their Dust playerbase, but if Dust's playerbase is so whiny, terrible, and demanding; who wouldn't hate them? My 2 certs. Fixed. That was spiffing.
Michael Arck 5492	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:32:00 - [53] - Quote Hmm interesting responses there, you two. Thanks. I know I haven't budged to get a PS4 or a X1 yet. Why buy those when they just pushing indies and remasters as now? I feel like they are robbing console gamers. For what you pay to own a console over time, I feel that money should be put into a PC, where the price of games are manageable and you can upgrade your PC as needs be. People say the next generation is always slow to start but to me, the truth is, I never seen the start of next gen move so slowly. People were saying "wait until 2014". Now its "wait until 2015". I think I'm starting to lean more towards the PC gaming, just for the maturer aspects it brings. Consoles, IMO, are ruined by the entitled individuals who demand the devs to bend to their wills like slaves. I don't see that in PC gaming. Of course they are not exempt from such attitudes, but I don't see it prevalent as in the console world. Anyway, who doesn't like to watch ** and then switch to a FPS on the fly? I do. Archistrategos Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain**
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3296	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:35:00 - [54] - Quote To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5547	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:40:00 - [55] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Hmm interesting responses there, you two. Thanks. I know I haven't budged to get a PS4 or a X1 yet. Why buy those when they just pushing indies and remasters as now? I feel like they are robbing console gamers. For what you pay to own a console over time, I feel that money should be put into a PC, where the price of games are manageable and you can upgrade your PC as needs be. People say the next generation is always slow to start but to me, the truth is, I never seen the start of next gen move so slowly. People were saying "wait until 2014". Now its "wait until 2015". I think I'm starting to lean more towards the PC gaming, just for the maturer aspects it brings. Consoles, IMO, are ruined by the entitled individuals who demand the devs to bend to their wills like slaves. I don't see that in PC gaming. Of course they are not exempt from such attitudes, but I don't see it prevalent as in the console world. Anyway, who doesn't like to watch **** and then switch to a FPS on the fly? I do. That's why im looking forward to planetside 2 on the ps4. From a ps4 version review. That said, the game looked great running on the PS4 (and better than when I last played a year or so ago) and was running between 30 and 50 frames per second before optimization. There's still no mini-map or store, but the loadout screens and other parts of the UI are complete. YOU CAN TOGGLE AIM ASSIST OFF AND ON. The touch pad on the DualShock 4 will allow you to map certain commands to different areas (if you've gotten the hang of that giant button). Jump in and farm!, fk yeah!. That was spiffing.
Michael Arck 5494	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:44:00 - [56] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3144	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:47:00 - [57] - Quote I am sure it was just an instant badpost, and nothing deeper. While team True Grit was assigned to the dust - integration tasks FoxFour was really active in the community. Much more so than he had to be for work. To the point of manning several irc channels, and playing random squads. Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3299	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:51:00 - [58] - Quote That could also be the reason everyone ideas failed quite badly in some cases. Fox fours a nice guy but he should never have been a designer he just didn't get FPS mindset or what we wanted You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 9309	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:58:00 - [59] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It might just be my naive self, but I believe he said that as a joke. if it was just a joke then fair enough, but .... then why not say as much and why post it on a social media site where it could be misinterpreted as something else. I do hope this is the case and not a shared attitude among the remaining Devs Because it's the internet. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 9309	Posted - 2014.09.11 15:01:00 - [60] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: To be fair the Eve community is no better they just have a better vocabulary than us =ƒÿå Oh yea, I'm not saying that PC is exempt from that aspect. I know PC got their stuff with them too. From my perspective, if Dust 514 would be on PC before all this happened, I think the battles would be much more interesting, encouraging CCP to do more. I think the community would have been more supportive. The ideas submitted would have been more objectively based instead of the agendas here. All people did was complain, complain, complain and complain. LOL I mean, c'mon, look at the "swatting" situation. Kids on consoles were calling swat teams on people that were beating them. I like playing with adults who don't have a mother wiping their ass and using a console as a babysitter. Again, I know PC isn't holier than though, but its a different beast. I get tired of these entitled brats on consoles acting all weird that a 30 plus year old man plays video games or can't work with each other as a team in a FPS to accomplish goals. If Dust had started on the PC before hand, it would've been much better developed and be ready in time for the PS4 release. But that never happened obviously. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.



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