You just don't want to acknowledge you might be wrong, do you?

Two AV can basically alpha down any dropship.

One can do it with timing and position. All I am hearing from you is screams for nerfs on something that is difficult to destroy by claiming it is impossible.

My kill counts disagree with you. So do the burned wrecks of the dropships.

And no one "lets" you waste their half-mil ISK autism chariots, whether dropship or HAV. I know no ADS pilot is sitting there going "oh breakin is using good effort. I'll die in a fire to make him happy."

I'm done with this thread, I've spent more time here than I ever have thinking about ADS in game. I'm a cloaked scout, ADS is not really my problem.

OP you used to have a railgun that was able to hit harder, OH less, fire quicker and also have a 600m range until the lolcpm member in the thread got the railgun nerfed so he could hover in safety

If it was upto him he would want the railgun removed so you would have 0 defence against an ADS

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1638265#post1638265

No, they think 'this guy is stopping me from killing infantry and tanks, I want to kill him'. By trying to kill you, they let you kill them. The entire engagement after the first shot is at the discretion of the ADS pilot - if they wanted to stay alive more than they wanted to kill you they'd be at the flight ceiling already.

I have killed plenty of dropships too. The point is, I only killed the ADSes 1 on 1 that opted to stay within range after the first shot or made some other stupid mistake (e.g. engaging with hardeners on cooldown). So did you. Maybe it makes you feel good to think that it is your uberskill that downed the ADS. I'm more realistic, I know if I down an ADS on my own the FAA investigation would say 'pilot error'.

Actually the range was reduced because it outclassed blaster turrets and for the little fact that wwe used to have at least two tanks sitting on the red line hill rail sniping all the way to objective get your facts right.

They were nerfed because of DS complaints, good ADS pilots didnt have a problem and if hill sniping is a problem then move back the redline 500m problem solved

Get your facts right

Blaster turrets were more AI than AV even so they turned alot quicker than a railgun and add in a nitro you could easily outgun a railgun in CQC but you had to know what you were doing

They were nerfed because of DS complaints, good ADS pilots didnt have a problem and if hill sniping is a problem then move back the redline 500m problem solved

Get your facts right

This was tolerable until you started guessing as to what a pilot thinks without having a clue as to how dropships operate or the challenges a pilot faces.

Dropship pilots are blind a good portion of the time, objects and infantry sometimes don't render until you are 10m away and sometimes don't render at all. Swarms are invisible, even when the swarmer is standing 40m in front of you firing volleys at you. When you are hit the hit marker indicates the opposite direction that you were actually hit making all kinds of confusion. Sometimes there is absolutely no indicator that you have been hit, forge hits, no knock back, no blue flare, your HP just drops, but then why would you check your HP if nothing has indicated that something painful just smacked you?
There is no trail to follow on a forge gun and swarms are invisible so there is ALOT of guess work involved in actually finding the threat and even if you hover over them there is a chance they won't render until an invisible swarm hits or you see the forge ball 2 inches from your face. This is partly why dropships disengage and hightail it out so often.

We have false/no information to actually go off of when encountering av. Most flying is guess work and gut feelings and many many runs to just find where the av is. Yet you make it sound like we can see you from the flight ceiling!

From your first sentence I can see how you think, from a dropship pilots perspective I would be thinking "damn a forge gun, can't provide cover for my squad, he's gonna be able to hit me from 600m and it could really hurt. I have find out where he is, too much of a threat to not know. Maybe if he is milita, or really bad, I can fight him, otherwise I need to know where I can take cover."

Do you honestly expect me, a seasoned dropship pilot with two years of flying experience, in my 700k isk dropship, to turn and attempt to look for a swarmer after being hit by an invisible volley that has taken down a third of my shields and knocked me all over, with another invisible volley on the way and no indication or visual confirmation of the threat(s?)?!

No I'm gonna get the fu*k out of there! You tell me you wouldn't do the same.

You know nothing of dropships, which explains why you have no idea how to fight them.

This is why the forums are so pointless. I repeatedly said that ADS only die when they hang around after they get shot and that a competent pilot disappears at that point, but you seem to think im saying the opposite, that a good pilot hovers under fire so they can get killed. And dont even get me started on the forge guns that you think are hitting you at 600m

Actually no they weren't so your not just a scrub in game but on forum to its as simple as thinking when the rail was nerfed and searching that update discussions good job bud but just like a forum scrub you take everything out of context and try to flip it to pertain to your arguement.