Step 1. Mount little turrets on your HAV
Step 2. Acquire a friendly forge (or two, the second is optional)
Step 3. Harvest tears from DS pilots.

Are you speced into the ADS at all? Do you fly?

Edit-Well bugger me I read some of it >__< I hate myself... The only counter to a dropship is not just a fecking forge gun, infact swarms>>>>> Forge... Not to mention rammers, or calling in an rdv to hit them, or you know a tank, used with a brain.

You sir, are a bad tanker.

stick a small rail turret on your top gun, swap to it when a red ADS flys over you and pop it out of the sky with OP small rail damage...

you can tank more hits then he can so he has to GTFO or be ganked by your tank.



what im seeing is that you dont know how to fit your tanks. (doesnt require two people... you just have to understand teh concept of switching seats.)

You need some scissors to protect your rock from the all mighty paper plane.

i kill them in a methana....

you sir are just bad, there are ready built solutions to your problem in game, and your chosing not to use them.


working as intended, not the games fault its yours.

if i can do it with an LAV... you can do it in a ******* tank.

Yes it is. Squad with me. Ill spawn you some ADS and film how indestructible you are. Ill be on tonight. 2000 EVE time.

afraid not. that would be two ADS. His claim is that :

Forge Guns are only slightly effective

NOTHING except an ADS is a counter

An ADS is not a sitting duck for anything

ADS can hover without risk


Bold claims. If true he wont lose a single dropship. and go at least 20-0. So I want him to put up, and prove these bold claims. But if they are true, then we need to act. So OP, Prove your claims.

ADS are not grossly OP.

Most people refuse to spec into their counters. It's like tanks in Chromosome.

You had like five people in closed beta who dedicated themselves wholly to the cause of HAV extermination.

We were the ones who hunted marauders solo and won a lot of the time.

Lol. Tankers have screamed FOREVER that it should take more than one person to kill them. Yet if they are required to use another player to kill an ADS they kick and scream. Tankers are such unskilled pussies.

A very wise man named Aldin Kan would like to have a word with you, OP.

it's true, the ADS can't maintain it's assault vs this HAV w/ small turret unless it's suicidal. you need ADV turrets tho. there's also the chance to suprise the pilot but players always fire in full anger mode at the wrong range/out of range, alerting the pilot instead of ambushing. also the days are over where pilot laughs off the SL hits there not as UP as everyone thinks. incubus vs good HAV takes minutes to kill even more so if it's gallente HAV., plenty of time for some kind of response outside of the normal panic mode of tank going back and forth in between some obstacles. also if you put an AV guy in your turret who's worth af

If dropships are impossible to kill why am I able to kill them with an ADV AFG or breach, 2 ADV mods and prof 4?

Serious question. Not anecdotal. I successfully shoot down pythons and incubi with breaches ans AFGs of all types.

This is narrow minded, you are ignoring the other half of the equation. The skill and equipment of the aver. Avers with good skill and trigger discipline can down a max skill ads fit. It requires some experience from the aver to know that the first mover advantage is theirs and not to fire until the dropship is in a good position to strike. Hunting dropships also requires a bit of coordination to know where it is and what its doing.

Teamwork is the best way to get a dropship in one blow, a friend and I enjoy laving around with a rail turret, I use my cal heavy and an IAFG to gun. If we encounter an ads he positions the leave in a good spot, I hop out and start charging while he gets on the gun and opens up. My shot hits and by the time he starts running its already over.

You just don't want to acknowledge you might be wrong, do you?

Two AV can basically alpha down any dropship.

One can do it with timing and position. All I am hearing from you is screams for nerfs on something that is difficult to destroy by claiming it is impossible.

My kill counts disagree with you. So do the burned wrecks of the dropships.

And no one "lets" you waste their half-mil ISK autism chariots, whether dropship or HAV. I know no ADS pilot is sitting there going "oh breakin is using good effort. I'll die in a fire to make him happy."

This was tolerable until you started guessing as to what a pilot thinks without having a clue as to how dropships operate or the challenges a pilot faces.

Dropship pilots are blind a good portion of the time, objects and infantry sometimes don't render until you are 10m away and sometimes don't render at all. Swarms are invisible, even when the swarmer is standing 40m in front of you firing volleys at you. When you are hit the hit marker indicates the opposite direction that you were actually hit making all kinds of confusion. Sometimes there is absolutely no indicator that you have been hit, forge hits, no knock back, no blue flare, your HP just drops, but then why would you check your HP if nothing has indicated that something painful just smacked you?
There is no trail to follow on a forge gun and swarms are invisible so there is ALOT of guess work involved in actually finding the threat and even if you hover over them there is a chance they won't render until an invisible swarm hits or you see the forge ball 2 inches from your face. This is partly why dropships disengage and hightail it out so often.

We have false/no information to actually go off of when encountering av. Most flying is guess work and gut feelings and many many runs to just find where the av is. Yet you make it sound like we can see you from the flight ceiling!

From your first sentence I can see how you think, from a dropship pilots perspective I would be thinking "damn a forge gun, can't provide cover for my squad, he's gonna be able to hit me from 600m and it could really hurt. I have find out where he is, too much of a threat to not know. Maybe if he is milita, or really bad, I can fight him, otherwise I need to know where I can take cover."

Do you honestly expect me, a seasoned dropship pilot with two years of flying experience, in my 700k isk dropship, to turn and attempt to look for a swarmer after being hit by an invisible volley that has taken down a third of my shields and knocked me all over, with another invisible volley on the way and no indication or visual confirmation of the threat(s?)?!

No I'm gonna get the fu*k out of there! You tell me you wouldn't do the same.

You know nothing of dropships, which explains why you have no idea how to fight them.