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saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 149	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:04:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. SLAYER.
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 894	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:11:00 - [2] - Quote Respect for having the skills to snipe in CQC. But I still don't like the new reticle. Medium frame EHP is not medium
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:13:00 - [3] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Respect for having the skills to snipe in CQC. But I still don't like the new reticle. Thanks and I like it tbh SLAYER.
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2044	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:14:00 - [4] - Quote How many damage mods do u use because i just didnt seem to do enough with the same rifle. Also do you even aim assist bro(its a YouTube video )... because theres plenty of kills u shouldnt of got in there Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Beastlina Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:14:00 - [5] - Quote Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though?
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:16:00 - [6] - Quote Beastlina wrote: Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol SLAYER.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:18:00 - [7] - Quote ladwar wrote: How many damage mods do u use because i just didnt seem to do enough with the same rifle. Also do you even aim assist bro(its a YouTube video )... because theres plenty of kills u shouldnt of got in there I used 1 complex dammod on that suit i tried it with 4 complex dammods but nope that didnt work lol and yes aim assist was on SLAYER.
Beastlina Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 68	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:18:00 - [8] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Beastlina wrote: Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol Damn dude. Well done. No trash talk here. That is some damn good sniping lol.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 154	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:22:00 - [9] - Quote Beastlina wrote: saxonmish wrote: Beastlina wrote: Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol Damn dude. Well done. No trash talk here. That is some damn good sniping lol. Thanks :) SLAYER.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3306	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:25:00 - [10] - Quote Can't even fault your Sniper play here my friend, your really in the thick of it, on the ground with the rest of us. Is so much more refreshing to see than your average sniper sat in a high eHP suit, in the most inaccessible location possible. Good Job, though I don't Snipe all that much (so feel free not to count my opinion) I do rather like the new sight. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:29:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Can't even fault your Sniper play here my friend, your really in the thick of it, on the ground with the rest of us. Is so much more refreshing to see than your average sniper sat in a high eHP suit, in the most inaccessible location possible. Good Job, though I don't Snipe all that much (so feel free not to count my opinion) I do rather like the new sight. Thanks man :) i just saw everyone crying about the reticle and i thought i would give it a try (in my style of play) im glad you liked it :) SLAYER.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 695	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:33:00 - [12] - Quote You know, this is the first vid that ever made me want to try sniping. I didn't realize the sniper rifle could be used in this fashion. Might have to skill into it on my heavy toon, I have a Cal Commando I might want to start trying this on. Props, you got some nice kills there. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:36:00 - [13] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: You know, this is the first vid that ever made me want to try sniping. I didn't realize the sniper rifle could be used in this fashion. Might have to skill into it on my heavy toon, I have a Cal Commando I might want to start trying this on. Props, you got some nice kills there. Theres no limits to anything if you've go the skills you can do it :) Good Luck SLAYER.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 78	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:36:00 - [14] - Quote saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2692	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:38:00 - [15] - Quote Good vid, but it's not quickscoping. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" Uncesored FUCK
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:40:00 - [16] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Good vid, but it's not quickscoping. Some of it is SLAYER.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 337	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:44:00 - [17] - Quote I have to agree with you Sax. Personally I don't like the new reticle, but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:46:00 - [18] - Quote DTOracle wrote: I have to agree with you Sax. Personally I don't like the new reticle, but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. Thanks :) i like it cos you can fit an enemies head inside that circle and pop SLAYER.
Aero Jupiter Vendetta Reactionary Force 1	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:47:00 - [19] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. I noticed that too but he is still shooting under pressure while being shot at and with a ps3 controller. You can see his suits eHP and from the look of his radar he looks to be in a scout suit. They probably could have killed him just as easily because of his low eHP so i don't think him killing milita suits with an advanced tac sniper rifle matters too much. The point is not even many full proto snipers could make shots like that on the field while being shot at.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:49:00 - [20] - Quote Aero Jupiter wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. I noticed that too but he is still shooting under pressure while being shot at and with a ps3 controller. You can see his suits eHP and from the look of his radar he looks to be in a scout suit. They probably could have killed him just as easily because of his low eHP so i don't think him killing milita suits with an advanced tac sniper rifle matters too much. The point is not even many full proto snipers could make shots like that on the field while being shot at. Thankyou yea this was a cal scout :) SLAYER.

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3308	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:51:00 - [21] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. Considering the video is about the sight and how nicely the enemies head fits inside it, the meta level of the suit being shot has bearing on the discussion it only serves to prove they are inded headshots being made, which could just as easily be made on a proto, you just wouldn't see 'Headshot Kill' on the screen. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Kyr Kitar Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 50	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:52:00 - [22] - Quote How high is the sensitivity of your crosshairs?
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2014.08.16 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote Kyr Kitar wrote: How high is the sensitivity of your crosshairs? 100 on everything SLAYER.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 350	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:12:00 - [24] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Beastlina wrote: Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol I must have bought a couple of crap controllers then because I can't use those things even for regular rifles. They just aren't that accurate because they "catch" or are springy around the center area and are not smooth. I don't get that design. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1808	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:23:00 - [25] - Quote Yes, this is the kind of sniping I really enjoy watching and am working on doing right now. Though I would have been more impressed without the AA handicap. What suit were you using? Looked like a cal assault? I'm using a cal scout and a bolt pistol. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 161	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:25:00 - [26] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Yes, this is the kind of sniping I really enjoy watching and am working on doing right now. Though I would have been more impressed without the AA handicap. What suit were you using? Looked like a cal assault? I'm using a cal scout and a bolt pistol. cal scout :) and Good Luck SLAYER.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 451	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:06:00 - [27] - Quote There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical. I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof. One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 163	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:12:00 - [28] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical. I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof. One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets. This is of course also ignoring the fact that 90% of your victims were in militia fits while the few that weren't were either standing perfectly still sniping (hopefully not at you as it takes a while for you to hit them) or they were adv gallente mediums which are, with the exception of light variant gallente suits, the most vulnerable to SR fire (low shield high armor.) As in "long range" you mean sitting in our redline? SLAYER.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 451	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:19:00 - [29] - Quote saxonmish wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical. I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof. One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets. This is of course also ignoring the fact that 90% of your victims were in militia fits while the few that weren't were either standing perfectly still sniping (hopefully not at you as it takes a while for you to hit them) or they were adv gallente mediums which are, with the exception of light variant gallente suits, the most vulnerable to SR fire (low shield high armor.) As in "long range" you mean sitting in our redline? 2:09 is a prime example, that looks to be you firing from roughly the center of the map to their red line. This range can also and is often achieved from opposite sides of an objective (IE both the sniper and target are outside of the red line, some maps are larger than others.) No where in your montage if I am not mistaken shows you hitting moving targets from that range. Also, if we want to go there with the accusations that I must be defending red line sniping, your gun play in a montage, though admirable, highlights the futility of using a sniper rifle from a balance perspective. Most of your engagement ranges you do show would be ideal for a Laser, Rail, combat rifles, scrambler rifles, or TARs which could actually kill a medium/heavy proto fit from those ranges unlike the 3 round tactical even at proto level. So if your claim is that long distance sniping on moving targets like of the distance of 2:09 is not ideal for a sniper, you are essentially acknowledging that the sniper rifle serves no purpose. We aren't talking 600m we are talking 300m, most your engagements were 100-150 if that much.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:36:00 - [30] - Quote While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 452	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:40:00 - [31] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:42:00 - [32] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard. I know I was just trying to make it different from the standard considering it IS different with the regards to the time it takes to fully charge for full damage ya know? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 452	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:44:00 - [33] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard. I know I was just trying to make it different from the standard considering it IS different with the regards to the time it takes to fully charge for full damage ya know? Yeah but considering we still don't have full vehicle parity and probably never will, I don't see the point in them fiddling with scopes for variety. The new scope is a good improvement for the tactical but the other variants really were a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it. If they want to play with simple but new features to implement I think we need a sell button for gear we don't want/need then having a different scope for each rifle.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:03:00 - [34] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard. I know I was just trying to make it different from the standard considering it IS different with the regards to the time it takes to fully charge for full damage ya know? Yeah but considering we still don't have full vehicle parity and probably never will, I don't see the point in them fiddling with scopes for variety. The new scope is a good improvement for the tactical but the other variants really were a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it. If they want to play with simple but new features to implement I think we need a sell button for gear we don't want/need then having a different scope for each rifle. I see your point. So should I come back to Dust now or wait until after Delta where they "may" decide to nerf/buff the snipers since, from what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Hell even vice versa where they manage themselves to sit in one spot on an open map long enough to even reload after emptying a clip to shoot again. I guess I was wrong about the high RPM users ( I'll say that from now on to not offend a certain type of weapon/play style) being smart enough to just mow those snipers down before the sway goes away. Then again now apparently even sniper users are in the aim assist range now to not give a **** about the way they get kills. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3883	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:11:00 - [35] - Quote Just to clarify, Sniper Rifles are -not- affected by aim assist. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
LegacyofTable 25	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:14:00 - [36] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). Licensed Thales Hunter Total Thales taken - 20
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:17:00 - [37] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hsrd to do with a no prof adv sniper SLAYER.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 453	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:17:00 - [38] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: I see your point. So should I come back to Dust now or wait until after Delta where they "may" decide to nerf/buff the snipers since, from what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Hell even vice versa where they manage themselves to sit in one spot on an open map long enough to even reload after emptying a clip to shoot again. I guess I was wrong about the high RPM users ( I'll say that from now on to not offend a certain type of weapon/play style) being smart enough to just mow those snipers down before the sway goes away. Then again now apparently even sniper users are in the aim assist range now to not give a ** about the way they get kills. This last bit is just my personal grudge against aim assist. Get offended all you want or cocky as you want aim assist users. I would of loved no aim assist and no keyboard support but like most things that went wrong with this game, Eve players nitpicked a genre on a console they don't understand and didn't even fund their bullshit (I know Eve players play this game, but come on our population went from like 40,000 at release to 8,000 and now to 4,000 since fanfest. That's what like 5% of the active players of Eve and who knows how many dusties actually are Eve players I know I'm not.) In probably one of the most popular console genres around this game did horrible from the start and had mmorpg PC players and programmer/designers directing its progress. And it was literally free to ***** play... Too many people that don't like fps games decided how a fps game should play.
LegacyofTable 25	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:25:00 - [39] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hard to do with a no prof adv sniper That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods. Licensed Thales Hunter Total Thales taken - 20
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 562	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:29:00 - [40] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. Sadly this. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)

TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 454	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:29:00 - [41] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: saxonmish wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hard to do with a no prof adv sniper That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods. To me the diminishing returns on damage mod stacking makes it at most worth it to have maybe 2 max 3 though I typically just run one damage mod. Keep in mind the OP was also using a caldari scout which if he loaded damage mods onto anyone sneezing on him would have killed him.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:30:00 - [42] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: saxonmish wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hard to do with a no prof adv sniper That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods. yea i needed hp to cos i was in the field SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 562	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:30:00 - [43] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Just to clarify, Sniper Rifles are -not- affected by aim assist. Oh here you are! Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Cass Caul 700	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:50:00 - [44] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as cherrypicking. Sadly this. Actually, his video made me revise my stance on the new reticle. I loathe and despise it on the regular and charge variants, but I could begrudgingly get used to it on the tactical. Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:58:00 - [45] - Quote I like the scope, but can you guys at ccp leave the circle and put a dot in the center,?
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:00:00 - [46] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: I like the scope, but can you guys at ccp leave the circle and put a dot in the center,? it'll just be like a big dot lol SLAYER.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 934	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:02:00 - [47] - Quote saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:05:00 - [48] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't fing the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. SLAYER.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 57	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:06:00 - [49] - Quote saxonmish wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: I like the scope, but can you guys at ccp leave the circle and put a dot in the center,? it'll just be like a big dot lol Exactly itll be lit up like a christmas tree 24 7. Just tryin to derp up snipers a bit.Maybe you should just give em crazy auto aim, and forget about the scope.
Cass Caul 700	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:07:00 - [50] - Quote lol, watch the video again, aside from it only being highlights of his best shots it shows quite a few missed shots that were on target and a few that were pretty far off that got a kill. BTW, gg saxon, that was pretty close to Sleep Zan level of quick/close quarters sniping Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:11:00 - [51] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: lol, watch the video again, aside from it only being highlights of his best shots it shows quite a few missed shots that were on target and a few that were pretty far off that got a kill. BTW, gg saxon, that was pretty close to Sleep Zan level of quick/close quarters sniping Thanks i was just giving sniping a go :) SLAYER.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 936	Posted - 2014.08.17 03:51:00 - [52] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. Aiming slowly has nothing to do with finding the center. You were unable to do so without the numerical notice you bobbled Over the head several times very clearly. I have learned to identify such patterns because of the time I've used with a sniper. Imagine how it is on smaller screens where the readout is not legible? What do you use to headshot? Pure guesswork. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:00:00 - [53] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. Aiming slowly has nothing to do with finding the center. You were unable to do so without the numerical notice you bobbled Over the head several times very clearly. I have learned to identify such patterns because of the time I've used with a sniper. Imagine how it is on smaller screens where the readout is not legible? What do you use to headshot? Pure guesswork. My tv size is 19" so i know what its liike SLAYER.
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation 61	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:16:00 - [54] - Quote While I will admit that you have CQC skills, you shouldn't be able to quickscope with a SR. It should be flat out impossible. I realize that this game is all futuristic, and you can't really compare it to the guns that we have in real life, but if someone tried to, "quickscope," with a Barrett .50 Caliber, he wouldn't be standing after he fired. They HAVE to be in the correct stance, and almost always need a bipod. So if you can QS, they aren't working as intended. Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. CCP's Problem
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 304	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:24:00 - [55] - Quote Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:39:00 - [56] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it. Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :) SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 565	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:47:00 - [57] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it. Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :) Did you do your homework? That is to say.. It seems like you missed the multiple posts saying this new off the cuff change could easily be reverted back to the original variant if people were unhappy with it.. They offered. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
shady merc RisingSuns Dark Taboo 50	Posted - 2014.08.17 04:52:00 - [58] - Quote Nice vid, I think the new sight is an improvement
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 939	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:01:00 - [59] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :) If you ever get your arms and legs blown off, I'll be the first to tell you to stop complaining over such a small thing, because you're still alive. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 169	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:08:00 - [60] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it. Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :) Did you do your homework? That is to say.. It seems like you missed the multiple posts saying this new off the cuff change could easily be reverted back to the original variant if people were unhappy with it.. They offered. This was a test. An uncalled for, nobody asked for it, look what I can do, hey do you guys like this, test. why would i follow sniping post's when i don't snipe, also i put this up cos of everyone complaining about the snipers so i gave it a go and this is what i got SLAYER.

Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 566	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:16:00 - [61] - Quote saxonmish wrote: So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. People aren't complaining about snipers. Snipers are complaining about the reticle change.. like you initially said. If you went as far as to snipe for the first time in a year and make a montage to prove the change is fine as is.. It stands to reason you'd know the details surrounding the issue. I believe your time was wasted if you were trying to affirm the change was beneficial. (in a very poor manner with quickscoping, point blank range, unconventional use of the weapon) If anything it wasn't what anyone had asked for, and so feedback here is welcome. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:30:00 - [62] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: saxonmish wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hard to do with a no prof adv sniper That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods. I run a scout with damage mods and I also have the covenant suit and use them on that too. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:30:00 - [63] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. People aren't complaining about snipers. Snipers are complaining about the reticle change.. like you initially said. If you went as far as to snipe for the first time in a year and make a montage to prove the change is fine as is.. It stands to reason you'd know the details surrounding the issue. I believe your time was wasted if you were trying to affirm the change was beneficial. (in a very poor manner with quickscoping, point blank range, unconventional use of the weapon) If anything it wasn't what anyone had asked for, and so feedback here is welcome. Unconventional but cool, also sitting in one place isn't fun to watch so i mixed it up a little. SLAYER.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:33:00 - [64] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. So you see what snipers are always saying to high DPS RPM users? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:35:00 - [65] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. Aiming slowly has nothing to do with finding the center. You were unable to do so without the numerical notice you bobbled Over the head several times very clearly. I have learned to identify such patterns because of the time I've used with a sniper. Imagine how it is on smaller screens where the readout is not legible? What do you use to headshot? Pure guesswork. My tv size is 19" so i know what its liike "21" inch tv over here Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:38:00 - [66] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it. Well said there! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 567	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:45:00 - [67] - Quote Sniping is about field of view.. If I had a small television, I would give up sniping immediately. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 58	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:47:00 - [68] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. People aren't complaining about snipers. Snipers are complaining about the reticle change.. like you initially said. If you went as far as to snipe for the first time in a year and make a montage to prove the change is fine as is.. It stands to reason you'd know the details surrounding the issue. I believe your time was wasted if you were trying to affirm the change was beneficial. (in a very poor manner with quickscoping, point blank range, unconventional use of the weapon) If anything it wasn't what anyone had asked for, and so feedback here is welcome. Unconventional but cool, also sitting in one place isn't fun to watch so i mixed it up a little. Please for the love of my non-believing heart ruin snipers anymore with a statement like "Unconventional but cool"... While I respect your attitude on the complaining of CERTAIN points, I will not have someone ruin snipers with such a method of "quick scoping" when you're using it out of it's area of expertise! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:49:00 - [69] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sniping is about field of view.. If I had a small television, I would give up sniping immediately. Hey! Make do with what ya got!! Feel me? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:51:00 - [70] - Quote Please for the love of my non-believing heart ruin snipers anymore with a statement like "Unconventional but cool"... While I respect your attitude on the complaining of CERTAIN points, I will not have someone ruin snipers with such a method of "quick scoping" when you're using it out of it's area of expertise![/quote] I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh SLAYER.

Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:51:00 - [71] - Quote Also off topic here... LONG LIVE LE "S" DUST NAME STRING!!!! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 568	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:52:00 - [72] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: Sniping is about field of view.. If I had a small television, I would give up sniping immediately. Hey! Make do with what ya got!! Feel me? Maybe create a kickstarter for snipers in need? I feel ya. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:54:00 - [73] - Quote I'm tired Goodnight guys :) SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 568	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:54:00 - [74] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:56:00 - [75] - Quote saxonmish wrote: ScolmtonFace-Smasher wrote: Please for the love of my non-believing heart ruin snipers anymore with a statement like "Unconventional but cool"... While I respect your attitude on the complaining of CERTAIN points, I will not have someone ruin snipers with such a method of "quick scoping" when you're using it out of it's area of expertise! I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh First fixed it and secondreal snipers take pot shots then move around to keep chasers from guessing where they are. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:57:00 - [76] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I'm tired Goodnight guys :) Night! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:01:00 - [77] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is SLAYER.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:05:00 - [78] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:06:00 - [79] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 200-300 SLAYER.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:08:00 - [80] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 200-300 Not bad at all. Also about how long is the average map if anyone knows? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 570	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:08:00 - [81] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:15:00 - [82] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 570	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:18:00 - [83] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall! Unless those 3 to 4 heavies are all forge guns.. they're not anywhere a sniper should be. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 61	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:22:00 - [84] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: [ Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall! Unless those 3 to 4 heavies are all forge guns.. they're not anywhere a sniper should be. But of course good fellow!! They're all proto breach!! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 305	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:24:00 - [85] - Quote saxonmish wrote: [quote=Snake Sellors]] Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :) ok, seen the vid now. very nice looks good, mixed well. your scoores aren't bad (for me when i snipe i don't really take into account my deaths, so long as i kill lots and help my squad) but i have seen you do better with weapons designed for cqc. I have sniped from inside the map before, with a charge rifle (that is hard work! ) but it just doesn't pay off in the same way as vantage point sniping, where i can cover my team, provide intel, snipe close to objectives, break up large squad pushes, weaken heavies, target logi bros,etc and it also really doesn't work against full proto squads etc, and certainly not in p.c matches (also if you just want a laugh, go with the plc.... not exactly quick scope material, but it provides a very satisfying feel to every kill ) the main reason we are complaining at the moment is because ccp did say it was an experiment with the scope (because some people did ask for it, the dot was supposedly to hard to use) before hotfix delta, and awaiting feedback they will change it if we don't like it, so we gotta let them know.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1536	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:31:00 - [86] - Quote saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) Great stuff! Reminds me of Asudem, a GAC guy who CQC sniped back in the Cronos days.
Spaceman-Rob Space Dusters 495	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:35:00 - [87] - Quote After seeing this video I don't see how anyone can argue that there's anything wrong with the new reticle.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1536	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:37:00 - [88] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline?
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 306	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:05:00 - [89] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline? ok then, if you really believe this then start a campaign to get ohk "sniper" rifles. because at the moment they are not effective enough for that kind of play. also: 1. look up, snipers on google 2.check what current day sniping records are you will be supprised 3. People hated quick scope play in cod, why do you seem to think all of a sudden that they want us to be doing it here? do you honestly believe that we will get less hate for it? 4.you say how can it be a bad thing... well because there are alot of things that sniping consists of in dust that is not out and out killing which are still important, this would remove those elements 5.there were alot of shots in there where a rail or scrambler or laser rifle, or plc, or combat rifle (in one amusing case a shotgun or scp) would of been alot more effective. 6. do you even snipe or are you commenting on something just to try to have a negative effect on it? 7. 120m is not an effective sniping range and limits the view of the field severely, if you don't see a problem there then you clearly don't snipe. 8. do you think that this could be done in pc matches? 9."hiding on towers" showing your true biased opinion here, so i guess you think that all snipers are "cowards" (probably whilst you run around using auto aim and firing from the hip all the time) 10. if your weapon of choice is not the sniper rifle then why do you feel the need to try to ruin it for those of us who do?
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:16:00 - [90] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline? If read back a page you'll see my personal reason for not having it on ALL snipers or rather instead just take it away since a dot reticule is better the a circle reticule anytime of day in terms of precision which is supposed to be the snipers main point... Also I don't think anyone has problem with being in field so to speak. More of the best angles and vantages are all taken away the closer you step in. Examples of the only places on the in field are towers, the table top, those low buildings with the 4 rectangle things on top, and finally top edge of those towers that have spinning electricity in them. That's all I can think of at the moment and even then on the low buildings and the table top you're better off with an ScR, rail rifle or forge gun. Hell even swarms would perform better there. Rather than hating the hiding at a corner or shooting from out of range of the target like we should be doing in the first place; I respect those that find a tricky spot or a nice cozy spot to hold hold off a route or shot and move solely to peck off people who fk with your squad. I really respect those types because even then I say "Fk the blueberries because you're my partner not them." At least when i'm in a squad anyway... I'll make another extra statement just for those who say "Step out of the redline and get on my level." MOST OF THE BEST VANTAGE POINTS ARE IN THE F*ING STHOLE OF A DAMN THAT CCP CREATED FROM THE START!! Obviously there are spots out but not many and sitting in the open as I said earlier is asking to to die to a scrub, scout, or be picked off by another sniper wasting your time just to crouch to stop sway, line up a shot and hope they don't move or because of the circle now you have to take even longer just to get the shot you want... Now any more painfully obvious questions? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:20:00 - [91] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline? ok then, if you really believe this then start a campaign to get ohk "sniper" rifles. because at the moment they are not effective enough for that kind of play. also: 1. look up, snipers on google 2.check what current day sniping records are you will be supprised 3. People hated quick scope play in cod, why do you seem to think all of a sudden that they want us to be doing it here? do you honestly believe that we will get less hate for it? 4.you say how can it be a bad thing... well because there are alot of things that sniping consists of in dust that is not out and out killing which are still important, this would remove those elements 5.there were alot of shots in there where a rail or scrambler or laser rifle, or plc, or combat rifle (in one amusing case a shotgun or scp) would of been alot more effective. 6. do you even snipe or are you commenting on something just to try to have a negative effect on it? 7. 120m is not an effective sniping range and limits the view of the field severely, if you don't see a problem there then you clearly don't snipe. 8. do you think that this could be done in pc matches? 9."hiding on towers" showing your true biased opinion here, so i guess you think that all snipers are "cowards" (probably whilst you run around using auto aim and firing from the hip all the time) 10. if your weapon of choice is not the sniper rifle then why do you feel the need to try to ruin it for those of us who do? Snake how many people have we been trying to tell these things to and many time for just ONE person to understand? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
LudiKure ninda Freedom Battlefield Services 104	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:22:00 - [92] - Quote cqc sniping awesome ,...those quickscopes remind me of my cod mw2 days... Chasing FOTM since crome.. `SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED`
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:42:00 - [93] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: cqc sniping awesome ,...those quickscopes remind me of my cod mw2 days... I only liked the super jump server where everyone laugh even though they were dying Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 307	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:42:00 - [94] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: also: 1. look up, snipers on google 2.check what current day sniping records are you will be supprised 3. People hated quick scope play in cod, why do you seem to think all of a sudden that they want us to be doing it here? do you honestly believe that we will get less hate for it? 4.you say how can it be a bad thing... well because there are alot of things that sniping consists of in dust that is not out and out killing which are still important, this would remove those elements 5.there were alot of shots in there where a rail or scrambler or laser rifle, or plc, or combat rifle (in one amusing case a shotgun or scp) would of been alot more effective. 6. do you even snipe or are you commenting on something just to try to have a negative effect on it? 7. 120m is not an effective sniping range and limits the view of the field severely, if you don't see a problem there then you clearly don't snipe. 8. do you think that this could be done in pc matches? 9."hiding on towers" showing your true biased opinion here, so i guess you think that all snipers are "cowards" (probably whilst you run around using auto aim and firing from the hip all the time) 10. if your weapon of choice is not the sniper rifle then why do you feel the need to try to ruin it for those of us who do? Snake how many people have we been trying to tell these things to and many time for just ONE person to understand? [/quote] genuinely losing count now mate. i just wish i had an easy way to copy and paste all of this when i need to. it almost always word for word now anyway, the anti sniper crap certainly is.
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2277	Posted - 2014.08.17 13:29:00 - [95] - Quote saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) This is what my squad has been doing, new sniper reticle is good, aslong as the snipers now realise the dont have to camp, you can move now, your freeee!!!! Nice shooting aswell saxon. Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 179	Posted - 2014.08.17 13:30:00 - [96] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) This is what my squad has been doing, new sniper reticle is good, aslong as the snipers now realise the dont have to camp, you can move now, your freeee!!!! Nice shooting aswell saxon. Thanks man :) SLAYER.
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2278	Posted - 2014.08.17 13:44:00 - [97] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: also: 1. look up, snipers on google 3. People hated quick scope play in cod, why do you seem to think all of a sudden that they want us to be doing it here? do you honestly believe that we will get less hate for it? 4.you say how can it be a bad thing... well because there are alot of things that sniping consists of in dust that is not out and out killing which are still important, this would remove those elements 5.there were alot of shots in there where a rail or scrambler or laser rifle, or plc, or combat rifle (in one amusing case a shotgun or scp) would of been alot more effective. 6. do you even snipe or are you commenting on something just to try to have a negative effect on it? 7. 120m is not an effective sniping range and limits the view of the field severely, if you don't see a problem there then you clearly don't snipe. 8. do you think that this could be done in pc matches? 9."hiding on towers" showing your true biased opinion here, so i guess you think that all snipers are "cowards" (probably whilst you run around using auto aim and firing from the hip all the time) 10. if your weapon of choice is not the sniper rifle then why do you feel the need to try to ruin it for those of us who do? 1.google doesn't have anything about how sniping will be in the distant future, nothing facts wise 2.Once again this game isnt current time 3. The quick scope here is nothing like cod, don't even try that **. 4. when on the move you can still deliver intel, but you have a better ability to move with your squad and cover any part of the map. 5. The idea of the video was to show you it works.There is a lot of times in the game were a shotgun aint the best choice... 6. very poor question here for #6 7. You too used to the redline, in the redline you are also limited, more so than a sniper on the move. 8. If the sniper was good enough, this closer role could cause some real issues, remember sometimes just stripping shields for your squad will help. 9. Dude there are players on this game that leave battle when you counter their thales, There a players who snipe using a thales, sentinel GK.0 and hide as far back in the redline as they can. Some players even have a gunloggi sat beside them so if their GK.0 is shot once the just hide in the vehicle and move... Not biased, this is truth. 10. Personally I am a sniper with proficiency sniper, who is loving the new scope, because I have decided to take the opportunity, to run out field with my sniper, and have also been successful. Try before you Cry Give me my scrambler pistol back....
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 310	Posted - 2014.08.17 14:38:00 - [98] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: 1.google doesn't have anything about how sniping will be in the distant future, nothing facts wise 2.Once again this game isnt current time 3. The quick scope here is nothing like cod, don't even try that ****. 4. when on the move you can still deliver intel, but you have a better ability to move with your squad and cover any part of the map. 5. The idea of the video was to show you it works.There is a lot of times in the game were a shotgun aint the best choice... 6. very poor question here for #6 7. You too used to the redline, in the redline you are also limited, more so than a sniper on the move. 8. If the sniper was good enough, this closer role could cause some real issues, remember sometimes just stripping shields for your squad will help. 9. Dude there are players on this game that leave battle when you counter their thales, There a players who snipe using a thales, sentinel GK.0 and hide as far back in the redline as they can. Some players even have a gunloggi sat beside them so if their GK.0 is shot once the just hide in the vehicle and move... Not biased, this is truth. 10. Personally I am a sniper with proficiency sniper, who is loving the new scope, because I have decided to take the opportunity, to run out field with my sniper, and have also been successful. Try before you Cry 1.then look up info on railguns, they are also a current technology that will be much improved upon in the near future thanks to the us military development, nevermind the distant future. 2.the point is that you are trying to make snipers worse here than they are now. you think that they will get worse in the future. 3. not saying it's the same i am saying that doesn't it seem odd to you that players who hated in one game are suddenly so willing to accept it in a new game? (and it's not the scope it's the playstyle) 4. you certainly don't have a better ability to cover any part of the map, you are losing time to go to the area. as for the intel, you really think that the team you are with need intel on targets they are already seeing? (if you are "moving with them" then they are with you too, they will see what you see.) 5. the video does not show that it works until he does one in a p.c battle or goes up against spider logi groups,etc. there is no doubt about them being able to kill players that are a tier lower there never has been. 6. it's a genuine question none the less, if the person in question does not snipe then what is the point in their post other than to keep hold of a reticule that most snipers hate, it allows people who read it to understand the viewpoint. 7.i have always maintained that i will use whichever position is the best in order to be effective as part of my team. sometimes i'm in the red line, sometimes i'm near the enemy red line, sometimes i'm in the map, sometimes i'm even on the enemy mcc. and if the position becomes ineffective i move. running around on the ground does not make it any more effective either at moving or sniping. and it is less effective than the weapons designed to be used at those ranges. i also run heavy, and have been insta killed by various weapons, there was in here a point where at point blank range he shoots a player with his sr and the enemy survives. both the scp and nova knives would of worked better and both are sidearms, so why reduce the sniper rifle to the worst close range option? 8.i'm well aware that just stripping shields helps, but i can do that from up high where i can also destroy those awkwardly placed up high uplinks that reds are so fond of. and if the sniper is good enough they can be more than a problem anyway. 9. yes there are. but there are also players on here that stack armour plates and take more than one logibro whilst running full proto in pubs against noobs, scouts with cloaks that sit still and wait for somebody to step onto remotes, or that place them on uplinks waiting for people to spawn in., ads pilots that only keep their ads out whilst there are no av on the field, tanks that sit in the red line and again take them away as soon as they are threatened. players that only play maps when q synced, players that will leave at certain maps, and players that get their friends to help them boost their stats, and players that are just afk for entire rounds, and full squads of people that aim to get the reds red lined as the most reliable way of winning. and none of those are even snipers, lets not bother with the whose worse than who. (also don't get me started on the fact that the ground runners use auto aim.) 10 so you like the new scope is because it is no longer a sniper rifle. a rifle at these ranges is simply a marksman rifle. and not even the best one in dust. i don't have a problem with marksman rifles but try to take my weapon of choice away, if you want a new weapon type then ask ccp for it. btw i have "tried" plenty thanks, and didn't wait for a crappy scope to be forced into it either.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1536	Posted - 2014.08.17 14:44:00 - [99] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: 3. not saying it's the same i am saying that doesn't it seem odd to you that players who hated in one game are suddenly so willing to accept it in a new game? (and it's not the scope it's the playstyle) No one is suggesting that Dust sniping should be the same playstyle as COD quickscope. We're talking about engaging from 150-200m, not 15-20m.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3220	Posted - 2014.08.17 14:50:00 - [100] - Quote Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably.

Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2014.08.17 14:57:00 - [101] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: 3. not saying it's the same i am saying that doesn't it seem odd to you that players who hated in one game are suddenly so willing to accept it in a new game? (and it's not the scope it's the playstyle) No one is suggesting that Dust sniping should be the same playstyle as COD quickscope. We're talking about engaging from 150-200m, not 15-20m. so you are suggesting that snipers have a maximum range of 200m no thank you. also look at the video again there are plenty of his kills that are within the <100m range, some of them within knive range and a fair few within hmg range, in at least one example he kill a heavy by shooting 3 shots and finishing with the smg, whilst a skilled kill, he pulls it off because the heavy is reloading. again, if you really want snipers to become marksmen instead of being snipers, then you should start campaigning for them to have no sway and aim assist,(because no one else bothers to aim) and high alpha damage. they are not supposed to be for doing cqc. and the misguided idea that ccp did this as a way of nerfing our range is completely wrong, they did it because some rather stupid snipers were complaining they couldn't see through the dot. and by the way, lets say that we get the new useful sniper rifles to be marksmen rifles... do you honestly believe that the player base wont use them for quick scope at those ranges? there are players that put a dot on their screen so they don't need to use the scope at all, you don't see them now because the sniper rifle is too weak for it work.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 180	Posted - 2014.08.17 14:58:00 - [102] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably. :) good luck SLAYER.
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 750	Posted - 2014.08.17 15:24:00 - [103] - Quote Love it. I used to run my sniper alt like this but I got fed up capping a third character. I'm gonna log on him today & mess around since he has prof/reload 5. Great vid. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3222	Posted - 2014.08.17 15:30:00 - [104] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably. :) good luck Why'd you wish me good luck at failing? I just went 6-9 because of you... Seriously, shit is hard to do. How you got 20 kills and over is beyond me, but nonetheless, major props to you.
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 751	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:05:00 - [105] - Quote Lol 16/3. 2 or 3 NK kills in there. Stupid ADS kept killing me if only you could snipe them out the cockpit. Adv gal scout, reactive plate, cardiac, kincat, kaal/knives, light/sidearm damage mod, hive, REs. Pretty fun. Was at 90 sensitivity trying 100 now. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:16:00 - [106] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Lol 16/3. 2 or 3 NK kills in there. Stupid ADS kept killing me if only you could snipe them out the cockpit. Adv gal scout, reactive plate, cardiac, kincat, kaal/knives, light/sidearm damage mod, hive, REs. Pretty fun. Was at 90 sensitivity trying 100 now. Nice i hope to see this as a new playstyle in the future of dust :) SLAYER.
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 751	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:21:00 - [107] - Quote Gonna hook up my old tv & try some white dotting tonight. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:31:00 - [108] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Gonna hook up my old tv & try some white dotting tonight. lol SLAYER.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1541	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:39:00 - [109] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: 3. not saying it's the same i am saying that doesn't it seem odd to you that players who hated in one game are suddenly so willing to accept it in a new game? (and it's not the scope it's the playstyle) No one is suggesting that Dust sniping should be the same playstyle as COD quickscope. We're talking about engaging from 150-200m, not 15-20m. so you are suggesting that snipers have a maximum range of 200m no thank you. also look at the video again there are plenty of his kills that are within the <100m range, some of them within knive range and a fair few within hmg range, in at least one example he kill a heavy by shooting 3 shots and finishing with the smg, whilst a skilled kill, he pulls it off because the heavy is reloading. again, if you really want snipers to become marksmen instead of being snipers, then you should start campaigning for them to have no sway and aim assist,(because no one else bothers to aim) and high alpha damage. they are not supposed to be for doing cqc. and the misguided idea that ccp did this as a way of nerfing our range is completely wrong, they did it because some rather stupid snipers were complaining they couldn't see through the dot. and by the way, lets say that we get the new useful sniper rifles to be marksmen rifles... do you honestly believe that the player base wont use them for quick scope at those ranges? The maximum range is whatever works for you. But those who are having trouble using the new scope from 300m+ away can always try getting in closer, maybe it will work better for them from less extreme ranges. Just cos one dude got some kills at point blank range doesn't mean that's how you're supposed to use the weapon. Use it how you like! I'm just saying that you don't HAVE to use it from the remotest corner of the map or highest perch. 'Quickscoping' will never be a major factor because CCP will never include true quickscope functionality (i.e. heavy aim assist on zoom). I'm all in favour of people trying to 'quickscope' in this game, it's a free kill for me.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.08.17 16:54:00 - [110] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: [quote=Snake Sellors The maximum range is whatever works for you. But those who are having trouble using the new scope from 300m+ away can always try getting in closer, maybe it will work better for them from less extreme ranges. Just cos one dude got some kills at point blank range doesn't mean that's how you're supposed to use the weapon. Use it how you like! I'm just saying that you don't HAVE to use it from the remotest corner of the map or highest perch. 'Quickscoping' will never be a major factor because CCP will never include true quickscope functionality (i.e. heavy aim assist on zoom). I'm all in favour of people trying to 'quickscope' in this game, it's a free kill for me.[/quote] Fair enough, fair enough.. not going to argue with use it how you like. that to me is a sensible way to look at a weapon in a game. (just look at the plc... using it as anti-infantry is not the most effective weapon in dust, by its bloody good fun) the issue with the ret is that it's hard to gauge if a head is in the center whilst it's moving. you are right about the free kill,

H0riz0n Unlimit Inner.Hell 122	Posted - 2014.08.17 17:07:00 - [111] - Quote saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) I tryed it now and i run 15-0 , but most of all i had great fun sniping sentinel from behind Tanker since I was born -- Want back my blaster -- Madrugar 1125/6753 -- Reduce weakspot dimension
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2289	Posted - 2014.08.17 17:15:00 - [112] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: 3. not saying it's the same i am saying that doesn't it seem odd to you that players who hated in one game are suddenly so willing to accept it in a new game? (and it's not the scope it's the playstyle) No one is suggesting that Dust sniping should be the same playstyle as COD quickscope. We're talking about engaging from 150-200m, not 15-20m. so you are suggesting that snipers have a maximum range of 200m no thank you. also look at the video again there are plenty of his kills that are within the <100m range, some of them within knive range and a fair few within hmg range, in at least one example he kill a heavy by shooting 3 shots and finishing with the smg, whilst a skilled kill, he pulls it off because the heavy is reloading. again, if you really want snipers to become marksmen instead of being snipers, then you should start campaigning for them to have no sway and aim assist,(because no one else bothers to aim) and high alpha damage. they are not supposed to be for doing cqc. and the misguided idea that ccp did this as a way of nerfing our range is completely wrong, they did it because some rather stupid snipers were complaining they couldn't see through the dot. and by the way, lets say that we get the new useful sniper rifles to be marksmen rifles... do you honestly believe that the player base wont use them for quick scope at those ranges? there are players that put a dot on their screen so they don't need to use the scope at all, you don't see them now because the sniper rifle is too weak for it work. Today I headshotted at 586m, I headshotted at 68m. The range has not been nerfed. simple as. In my opinion, tac sr should keep the current hoop reticle, as it does suit the weapon, and the weapon does work well at a good variation of ranges. The standard and charge rifles, rely on good accurate shots, due to the limited chance to take it. They should get the dot. Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 314	Posted - 2014.08.17 17:57:00 - [113] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: [quote=Ryme Intrinseca][quote=Snake Sellors] . Today I headshotted at 586m, I headshotted at 68m. The range has not been nerfed. simple as. In my opinion, tac sr should keep the current hoop reticle, as it does suit the weapon, and the weapon does work well at a good variation of ranges. The standard and charge rifles, rely on good accurate shots, due to the limited chance to take it. They should get the dot. i didn't say that the range has been nerfed. I Agree that the larger ring ret is better for tactical rifles.and that the charge and standard need a more accurate one. but having said that i still think the best idea would just be to shrink the ring reticule to the size of the old dot.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1300	Posted - 2014.08.17 18:30:00 - [114] - Quote Nice video, Sax. Anyone who's gone against you knows you have skills and it's not surprising to me to find out they extend to the much-hated sniper rifle. I was rooting for you to melee that heavy. :)
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 183	Posted - 2014.08.17 18:33:00 - [115] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Nice video, Sax. Anyone who's gone against you knows you have skills and it's not surprising to me to find out they extend to the much-hated sniper rifle. I was rooting for you to melee that heavy. :) Thankyou :) SLAYER.
taxi bastard uptown456 Dark Taboo 209	Posted - 2014.08.17 18:53:00 - [116] - Quote can't lie, i am but a scrub in comparison. on my alt been doing something similar on a more basic level, i have been inspired to try move it up a notch. the problem which you will find - which was in your video ....you died. many of the scrubs will point out to you that they can consistantly go 3-0 4-0 and on a good game 5-0 by staying in their precious red line
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 600	Posted - 2014.08.17 19:14:00 - [117] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably. :) good luck Why'd you wish me good luck at failing? I just went 6-9 because of you... Seriously, shit is hard to do. How you got 20 kills and over is beyond me, but nonetheless, major props to you. Cloak / Submachine gun crutch, abuse those until you find militia suits to kill with a tactical. Treat is like a bolt action, instead of a sniper rifle and you'll get the same results. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2295	Posted - 2014.08.17 19:16:00 - [118] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably. :) good luck Why'd you wish me good luck at failing? I just went 6-9 because of you... Seriously, shit is hard to do. How you got 20 kills and over is beyond me, but nonetheless, major props to you. Cloak / Submachine gun crutch, abuse those until you find militia suits to kill with a tactical. Treat is like a bolt action, instead of a sniper rifle and you'll get the same results. I don't cloak too much outfield sniping, mainly move, tap tap tap, move. We took a fair amount of protos out also, including heavies. Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 352	Posted - 2014.08.17 19:21:00 - [119] - Quote Sorry sax@ video did not prove your point. Beside that I would like to say what I did when I saw the new 'aim-cross' for the first time - if some want to have different aim-cross he should be allowed to do so in his game settings. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 602	Posted - 2014.08.17 19:35:00 - [120] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Holy crap. I'm going to replicate your exact fit in an attempt to emulate what you had done in the video. Be back after I fail miserably. :) good luck Why'd you wish me good luck at failing? I just went 6-9 because of you... Seriously, shit is hard to do. How you got 20 kills and over is beyond me, but nonetheless, major props to you. Cloak / Submachine gun crutch, abuse those until you find militia suits to kill with a tactical. Treat is like a bolt action, instead of a sniper rifle and you'll get the same results. I don't cloak too much outfield sniping, mainly move, tap tap tap, move. We took a fair amount of protos out also, including heavies. His video only shows 1 proto getting killed. The rest were essentially STARTER/MLT/STD kills. Many of which were at ranges where sniper rifle is a bad option on a long list of alternatives. A list on which Nova Knives, is a superior option. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.08.17 21:45:00 - [121] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sorry sax@ video did not prove your point. Beside that I would like to say what I did when I saw the new 'aim-cross' for the first time - if some want to have different aim-cross he should be allowed to do so in his game settings. Yea i agree with that SLAYER.
Saivix Avar Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.08.17 21:54:00 - [122] - Quote I like the new reticle and I have made many headshots with it. it really isn't that hard. I am a multi-role merc don't ask me what I run because I can run everything you can run...to a certain extent at least
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 951	Posted - 2014.08.18 01:42:00 - [123] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: After seeing this video I don't see how anyone can argue that there's anything wrong with the new reticle. Close range only for a gun that's meant to be long range? Seriously, you don't think something is wrong with that? What about a shotgun reticule that doesn't let you see targets closer than 15m? You can still use it to kill, but you can't let them get close or you can't target them anymore. saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is No.. Just because one USES a Sniper rifle does not mean it's magically "Sniping". If you can perform any of these tasks with a Rail Rifle, you are clearly not sniping. Sniping by definition is shooting from an unnoticed location. In all of your shots you were clearly very noticed by the people you were shooting. That is called "Assaulting" not "Sniping". I Highly doubt you could use the gun for what it was actually intended for, which is LONG RANGE engagements. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.08.18 01:49:00 - [124] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: After seeing this video I don't see how anyone can argue that there's anything wrong with the new reticle. Close range only for a gun that's meant to be long range? Seriously, you don't think something is wrong with that? What about a shotgun reticule that doesn't let you see targets closer than 15m? You can still use it to kill, but you can't let them get close or you can't target them anymore. saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is No.. Just because one USES a Sniper rifle does not mean it's magically "Sniping". If you can perform any of these tasks with a Rail Rifle, you are clearly not sniping. Sniping by definition is shooting from an unnoticed location. In all of your shots you were clearly very noticed by the people you were shooting. That is called "Assaulting" not "Sniping". I Highly doubt you could use the gun for what it was actually intended for, which is LONG RANGE engagements. I can make a boring sniping vid if you really want me to. SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 608	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:18:00 - [125] - Quote I already do that. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:38:00 - [126] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: I already do that. Sorry no offence its just my opinion of sniping SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 610	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:42:00 - [127] - Quote it's okay.. i consider infantry to be meat grinding cogs. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:57:00 - [128] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: it's okay.. i consider infantry to be meat grinding cogs. lol :) SLAYER.
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution 1354	Posted - 2014.08.18 12:56:00 - [129] - Quote Last kill - LOL Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 67	Posted - 2014.08.19 19:25:00 - [130] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I can make a boring sniping vid if you really want me to. Please do to show me sniping from a long ranged point of view because I can't play dust right now Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 957	Posted - 2014.08.20 02:14:00 - [131] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I can make a boring sniping vid if you really want me to. It'll only be boring if you have no idea how to follow an engagement. Also: You will then find out how much of the maps are designed to prevent sniping from almost anywhere except the redline. Basically speaking, you'll begin to see how poorly planned out these maps are due to most real venues only having a 5-10 meter gap. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 674	Posted - 2014.08.20 02:18:00 - [132] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: saxonmish wrote: I can make a boring sniping vid if you really want me to. Please do to show me sniping from a long ranged point of view because I can't play dust right now Check out the videos in my signature for some recent sniping stuff. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Foxhound Lalelulilo Klandatu 1	Posted - 2014.08.20 02:35:00 - [133] - Quote Assault sniper rifle not sniper rifle, i like the way you made the video, made the sniper look awesome. Still hate the circle though, you got skill i'll give you that, you got my respect, do not want to fight you in a match. Can you post the complete video of each much, i wanna take some pointers. What suit you using, fast as a scout but like a medium suit on armor and shields, just curious. Respect your talent, not the circle though. I want my sniper rifle x forge gun!
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 215	Posted - 2014.08.20 03:00:00 - [134] - Quote Foxhound Lalelulilo wrote: Assault sniper rifle not sniper rifle, i like the way you made the video, made the sniper look awesome. Still hate the circle though, you got skill i'll give you that, you got my respect, do not want to fight you in a match. Can you post the complete video of each much, i wanna take some pointers. What suit you using, fast as a scout but like a medium suit on armor and shields, just curious. Respect your talent, not the circle though. I want my sniper rifle x forge gun! Hi Thanks the suit was a cal scout also if you like forge guns you'll love this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXAu1_hsWE :) SLAYER.
Zindorak 1.U.P 641	Posted - 2014.08.20 03:03:00 - [135] - Quote Ikr snipers HTFU even i can snipe with it and i hate sniping Pokemon master
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 957	Posted - 2014.08.20 04:11:00 - [136] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Ikr snipers HTFU even i can snipe with it and i hate sniping I'm going to assume you just meant the gun can fire, and can do damage if the target aligns. I'm going to bet that you didn't actually try to hit targets at a distance, nor hit moving targets. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12980	Posted - 2014.08.20 04:26:00 - [137] - Quote Bone Scratcher wrote: While I will admit that you have CQC skills, you shouldn't be able to quickscope with a SR. It should be flat out impossible. I realize that this game is all futuristic, and you can't really compare it to the guns that we have in real life, but if someone tried to, "quickscope," with a Barrett .50 Caliber, he wouldn't be standing after he fired. They HAVE to be in the correct stance, and almost always need a bipod. So if you can QS, they aren't working as intended. You know the lore behind drop suits and the weapons don't you? "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Keeriam Miray R 0 N 1 N 328	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:19:00 - [138] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Bone Scratcher wrote: While I will admit that you have CQC skills, you shouldn't be able to quickscope with a SR. It should be flat out impossible. I realize that this game is all futuristic, and you can't really compare it to the guns that we have in real life, but if someone tried to, "quickscope," with a Barrett .50 Caliber, he wouldn't be standing after he fired. They HAVE to be in the correct stance, and almost always need a bipod. So if you can QS, they aren't working as intended. You know the lore behind drop suits and the weapons don't you? Don't believe lore or CCP... heavy dropsuit that can hold & shoot with pinpoint accuracy with Forge Gun at any distance in any stance (also immune to badass recoil of Forge Gun), but can't do same with light Sniper Rifle And sniper rifle is only weapon that have sway CCP & even simple logical things, not combinable, It will litteraly take about 6-8 years (i'm not joking) of "we are looking into it", just to understand obvious mistakes, but it's alredy little too late for Dust... -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦-ï-+ -+-+-¦-¦-é -¦-ï-é-î -é-+-+-î-¦-+ -+-+-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦. -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦...
Zindorak 1.U.P 645	Posted - 2014.08.20 12:56:00 - [139] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. Aiming slowly has nothing to do with finding the center. You were unable to do so without the numerical notice you bobbled Over the head several times very clearly. I have learned to identify such patterns because of the time I've used with a sniper. Imagine how it is on smaller screens where the readout is not legible? What do you use to headshot? Pure guesswork. My tv size is 19" so i know what its liike [/quote] "21" inch tv over here [/quote] Ha 40 here Pokemon master
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3214	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:12:00 - [140] - Quote I didn't read the whole thread... but pretty sure its the Charge Sniper Rifle which suffers at long range from the new reticle... watch a couple of Symbiotic's video and its pretty cringworthy. On the tactical at closer ranges it actually looks quite helpful I can see why you like it. On an unrelated note... the bullet magnetism in this video is just sad. It represents everything that is wrong with console shooters B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich


CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 9114	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:21:00 - [141] - Quote On the topic of the sniper crosshair, you should be taking a look at this thread in Features and Ideas Discussion (and if you already did, look again.) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172372&find=unread CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 757	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:23:00 - [142] - Quote Roses are red, violets are blue, noobs can snipe so can you. Find a good spot, move when it's hot, use overview too. To stay alive, snipe away from your hive & any other blue. Stick to these facts or be awesome like Sax & your deaths will be few. Or you can refrain, from using your brain & do what morons must do. No need to complain, it's all in vain, you're just peas in CCP's stew. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Utread Ragnarson Clone Rehabilitation Services 6	Posted - 2014.08.20 17:27:00 - [143] - Quote Great shooting but i want my little dot back.


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