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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:04:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk
So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.
As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.
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medomai grey
WarRavens Final Resolution.
894
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:11:00 -
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Respect for having the skills to snipe in CQC. But I still don't like the new reticle.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:13:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Respect for having the skills to snipe in CQC. But I still don't like the new reticle.
Thanks and I like it tbh
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2044
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:14:00 -
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How many damage mods do u use because i just didnt seem to do enough with the same rifle. Also do you even aim assist bro(its a YouTube video )... because theres plenty of kills u shouldnt of got in there
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Beastlina
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:14:00 -
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Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:16:00 -
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Beastlina wrote:Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though?
Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:18:00 -
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ladwar wrote:How many damage mods do u use because i just didnt seem to do enough with the same rifle. Also do you even aim assist bro(its a YouTube video )... because theres plenty of kills u shouldnt of got in there
I used 1 complex dammod on that suit i tried it with 4 complex dammods but nope that didnt work lol and yes aim assist was on
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Beastlina
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:18:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Beastlina wrote:Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol Damn dude. Well done. No trash talk here. That is some damn good sniping lol. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:22:00 -
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Beastlina wrote:saxonmish wrote:Beastlina wrote:Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol Damn dude. Well done. No trash talk here. That is some damn good sniping lol.
Thanks :)
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3306
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:25:00 -
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Can't even fault your Sniper play here my friend, your really in the thick of it, on the ground with the rest of us. Is so much more refreshing to see than your average sniper sat in a high eHP suit, in the most inaccessible location possible.
Good Job, though I don't Snipe all that much (so feel free not to count my opinion) I do rather like the new sight.
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:29:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Can't even fault your Sniper play here my friend, your really in the thick of it, on the ground with the rest of us. Is so much more refreshing to see than your average sniper sat in a high eHP suit, in the most inaccessible location possible.
Good Job, though I don't Snipe all that much (so feel free not to count my opinion) I do rather like the new sight.
Thanks man :) i just saw everyone crying about the reticle and i thought i would give it a try (in my style of play) im glad you liked it :)
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
695
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:33:00 -
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You know, this is the first vid that ever made me want to try sniping. I didn't realize the sniper rifle could be used in this fashion. Might have to skill into it on my heavy toon, I have a Cal Commando I might want to start trying this on.
Props, you got some nice kills there.
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:36:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:You know, this is the first vid that ever made me want to try sniping. I didn't realize the sniper rifle could be used in this fashion. Might have to skill into it on my heavy toon, I have a Cal Commando I might want to start trying this on.
Props, you got some nice kills there.
Theres no limits to anything if you've go the skills you can do it :) Good Luck
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
78
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:36:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk
So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.
As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.
You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :)
You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as *cherrypicking*.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:38:00 -
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Good vid, but it's not quickscoping.
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:40:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Good vid, but it's not quickscoping.
Some of it is
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
337
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:44:00 -
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I have to agree with you Sax. Personally I don't like the new reticle, but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:46:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:I have to agree with you Sax. Personally I don't like the new reticle, but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be.
Thanks :) i like it cos you can fit an enemies head inside that circle and pop
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Aero Jupiter
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:47:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:saxonmish wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk
So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.
As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.
You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as *cherrypicking*.
I noticed that too but he is still shooting under pressure while being shot at and with a ps3 controller. You can see his suits eHP and from the look of his radar he looks to be in a scout suit. They probably could have killed him just as easily because of his low eHP so i don't think him killing milita suits with an advanced tac sniper rifle matters too much. The point is not even many full proto snipers could make shots like that on the field while being shot at. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
158
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:49:00 -
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Aero Jupiter wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:saxonmish wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk
So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.
As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.
You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as *cherrypicking*. I noticed that too but he is still shooting under pressure while being shot at and with a ps3 controller. You can see his suits eHP and from the look of his radar he looks to be in a scout suit. They probably could have killed him just as easily because of his low eHP so i don't think him killing milita suits with an advanced tac sniper rifle matters too much. The point is not even many full proto snipers could make shots like that on the field while being shot at.
Thankyou yea this was a cal scout :)
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3308
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:51:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:saxonmish wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk
So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.
As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.
You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You're shooting militia suits for the vast majority of that video. In debating this is known as *cherrypicking*.
Considering the video is about the sight and how nicely the enemies head fits inside it, the meta level of the suit being shot has bearing on the discussion it only serves to prove they are inded headshots being made, which could just as easily be made on a proto, you just wouldn't see 'Headshot Kill' on the screen.
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Kyr Kitar
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:52:00 -
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How high is the sensitivity of your crosshairs? |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
158
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:53:00 -
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Kyr Kitar wrote:How high is the sensitivity of your crosshairs?
100 on everything
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:12:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Beastlina wrote:Not gonna lie some of those shots are pretty impressive. Guessing your using a keyboard and mouse though? Nope ps3 controller i cant use a mouse and keyboard for crap lol
I must have bought a couple of crap controllers then because I can't use those things even for regular rifles. They just aren't that accurate because they "catch" or are springy around the center area and are not smooth. I don't get that design.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1808
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:23:00 -
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Yes, this is the kind of sniping I really enjoy watching and am working on doing right now. Though I would have been more impressed without the AA handicap.
What suit were you using? Looked like a cal assault? I'm using a cal scout and a bolt pistol.
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Kaalaka dakka tamer
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:25:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Yes, this is the kind of sniping I really enjoy watching and am working on doing right now. Though I would have been more impressed without the AA handicap.
What suit were you using? Looked like a cal assault? I'm using a cal scout and a bolt pistol.
cal scout :) and Good Luck
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
451
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:06:00 -
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There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical.
I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof.
One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:12:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical.
I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof.
One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets. This is of course also ignoring the fact that 90% of your victims were in militia fits while the few that weren't were either standing perfectly still sniping (hopefully not at you as it takes a while for you to hit them) or they were adv gallente mediums which are, with the exception of light variant gallente suits, the most vulnerable to SR fire (low shield high armor.)
As in "long range" you mean sitting in our redline?
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
451
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:19:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:There is one serious flaw in your montage however, you are using a tactical variant. I absolutely agree that for the tactical the new scope is good, because the tactical is designed for short range engagements or long range pings. You pretty well highlight the issue for longer range sniping however. It takes a long time (In comparison to the old dot and even your current level of sniper play which is good) to line up long range headshots. You also spam ping on medium distance targets as is intended for the tactical variant often missing your first shot. I would challenge you to use a regular or charged variant (Which imo, favors the old Dot sight) and see if the results are the same as with your tactical.
I am of the opinion that the tactical variant should keep the new scope as its less about precision and more about pinging ASAP. The other variants do perform better under the old scope and suffer greatly. Your shots are impressive in how you have spliced it together, but it is a montage so as it is essentially a camera trick, it can't be relied on as objective proof.
One of the biggest complaints have been the innaccuracy of the circle at long distance on moving targets. One thing you do not do in this montage is exactly that. No one claimed hitting a stationary target at long distance was hard with the new scope. Most of the forum QQ I have seen on the subject was about long distance sniping of moving targets. This is of course also ignoring the fact that 90% of your victims were in militia fits while the few that weren't were either standing perfectly still sniping (hopefully not at you as it takes a while for you to hit them) or they were adv gallente mediums which are, with the exception of light variant gallente suits, the most vulnerable to SR fire (low shield high armor.) As in "long range" you mean sitting in our redline?
2:09 is a prime example, that looks to be you firing from roughly the center of the map to their red line. This range can also and is often achieved from opposite sides of an objective (IE both the sniper and target are outside of the red line, some maps are larger than others.) No where in your montage if I am not mistaken shows you hitting moving targets from that range. Also, if we want to go there with the accusations that I must be defending red line sniping, your gun play in a montage, though admirable, highlights the futility of using a sniper rifle from a balance perspective. Most of your engagement ranges you do show would be ideal for a Laser, Rail, combat rifles, scrambler rifles, or TARs which could actually kill a medium/heavy proto fit from those ranges unlike the 3 round tactical even at proto level. So if your claim is that long distance sniping on moving targets like of the distance of 2:09 is not ideal for a sniper, you are essentially acknowledging that the sniper rifle serves no purpose. We aren't talking 600m we are talking 300m, most your engagements were 100-150 if that much. |
Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456 Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:36:00 -
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While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally.
PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe.
Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example:
0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________
^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want.
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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