So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.

As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.

That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods.

People aren't complaining about snipers.

Snipers are complaining about the reticle change.. like you initially said.

If you went as far as to snipe for the first time in a year and make a montage to prove the change is fine as is..

It stands to reason you'd know the details surrounding the issue.

I believe your time was wasted if you were trying to affirm the change was beneficial.

(in a very poor manner with quickscoping, point blank range, unconventional use of the weapon)

If anything it wasn't what anyone had asked for, and so feedback here is welcome.

no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly.

My tv size is 19" so i know what its liike

Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow)

You said you haven't sniped since beta.
How do you know if it's worse or not then?

You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping?
1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong?
2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is :
Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m?
Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support)
Good for taking into pc battles?

If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then:
Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range?
Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly?
Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way?
As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too?

Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias.


Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it.

Unconventional but cool, also sitting in one place isn't fun to watch so i mixed it up a little.

Sniping is about field of view..

If I had a small television, I would give up sniping immediately.

Hey! Make do with what ya got!! Feel me?

I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh

I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh

I'm tired Goodnight guys :)

That wasn't sniping.

Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video.

That wasn't sniping.

Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video.

Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise?
For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes.

200-300

Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise?
For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes.

170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range..

If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action.

You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall!

Unless those 3 to 4 heavies are all forge guns.. they're not anywhere a sniper should be.

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Thanks for your response, i just think people should stop complaining by such small things, ccp wont undo something so people need to learn how to adapt except complain all the time. I see people saying this and that is 'Broken' then when it gets changed they moan even more, i just dont get it. But yea about the sniping i think there needs to be more tactical gameplay it makes it more interesting (but thats just my opinion) i only say snipers in the redline is cos tbh thats all i ever see also i died about 2-6 times each battle with a variant in kills from 11-24kills a match, but yea i appreciate your reply and i hope you enjoy the video :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk

So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper.

As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong.

You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :)

not sniping? kinda is

Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline?

Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline?