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Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:36:00 - [1] - Quote While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 01:42:00 - [2] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard. I know I was just trying to make it different from the standard considering it IS different with the regards to the time it takes to fully charge for full damage ya know? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.08.17 02:03:00 - [3] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: While I have to say you have some nice sniping kills there; I will also say that the dot reticule is definitely better than the circle reticule when it comes to getting a more precise shot. I non-aggressively suggest that only the tactical sniper rifles get that reticule and the standard variable sniper rifles the dot reticule since the standard has 50 rpm and you would want that shot to count more since it is slower and not truly meant to be that far in field with spray n pray users. ( Both COD scrubs and true run n' gun assault type players) I feel it would be nice to please both parties since it is already be degraded by CCP and (not blaming all but if you feel your being called out maybe you fit the slander) scrubs that don't or are to lazy to go hunt/ trap said sniper to move or quit shooting their teammates, squad, or them personally. PS: The fact that you used aim assist on a sniper saddens me personally considering I feel fond of lining my shot up personally for a situation shot or just to catch that person where he thinks he's safe. Almost forgot to mention that the charge sniper rifle could probably get a "T" branch reticule that you gradually have to aim up to get the right shot. for example: 0 ____________+____________ ____________l___________ ___________ l__________ ___________l_________ __________ l________ ^ that or maybe a dot in the circle... hell even a "X" if ya want. The T branch on rifle scopes is for bullet drop. Our sniper rifles don't have bullet drop, personally I think the charged would be fine with having the old sight just like the standard. I know I was just trying to make it different from the standard considering it IS different with the regards to the time it takes to fully charge for full damage ya know? Yeah but considering we still don't have full vehicle parity and probably never will, I don't see the point in them fiddling with scopes for variety. The new scope is a good improvement for the tactical but the other variants really were a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it. If they want to play with simple but new features to implement I think we need a sell button for gear we don't want/need then having a different scope for each rifle. I see your point. So should I come back to Dust now or wait until after Delta where they "may" decide to nerf/buff the snipers since, from what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Hell even vice versa where they manage themselves to sit in one spot on an open map long enough to even reload after emptying a clip to shoot again. I guess I was wrong about the high RPM users ( I'll say that from now on to not offend a certain type of weapon/play style) being smart enough to just mow those snipers down before the sway goes away. Then again now apparently even sniper users are in the aim assist range now to not give a **** about the way they get kills. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:30:00 - [4] - Quote LegacyofTable wrote: saxonmish wrote: LegacyofTable wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: From what I saw on the video, there are idiots who sit and crouch in the open red, dusty grounds trying to snipe like they're at a free shooting range? I mean come on! They deserve to die for letting someone crouch with a sniper long enough for its sway to stop and get perfect shot WHILE being 120 meters or less near you in the first place. Those are what we call "blueberries/noobs" (the ones in the MLT frontline/sniper fits). They are in no way hard to kill because they stand/sit still quite often, and typically only snipe one area, never checking their surroundings until they get shot. Not to knock OP's sniping, which was great, but would have been more impressed to see kills against people that aren't stupid (scouts that literally never stop moving, high hp assaults, etc.). it was hard to do with a no prof adv sniper That and you didn't use a lot of damage mods. Guess it's me because with my adv sniper, I put it on my assault with nothing but damage mods. I run a scout with damage mods and I also have the covenant suit and use them on that too. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:33:00 - [5] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. So you see what snipers are always saying to high DPS RPM users? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:35:00 - [6] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: saxonmish wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFGUF6HXBk So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. You might need to Manually switch it to HD btw :) You aren't sniping at all. Please tell me how most of these shots would not be outperformed by a Rail Rifle? Oh wait, you're inside RR range, so no. RR has much higher DPS at those ranges... Every time you took an actual Sniper range shot, you slowed down and had to fidget with the reticule because you couldn't recognize where the center was without wobbling the scope around. You basically then admitted to the problem that other snipers are complaining about, while claiming that it doesn't affect you. Very poorly presented really. no it wasn't the fact that i couldn't find the centre, its the fact i dont snipe and i'm not used to aiming that slowly. Aiming slowly has nothing to do with finding the center. You were unable to do so without the numerical notice you bobbled Over the head several times very clearly. I have learned to identify such patterns because of the time I've used with a sniper. Imagine how it is on smaller screens where the readout is not legible? What do you use to headshot? Pure guesswork. My tv size is 19" so i know what its liike "21" inch tv over here Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:38:00 - [7] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Just a few questions really, (haven't been able to watch the vid yet, will check it tomorrow) You said you haven't sniped since beta. How do you know if it's worse or not then? You wanted to prove the snipers wrong about the sniping reticule by close range and counter sniping? 1st. Why bother if you don't like sniping and haven't done it for the last year are you so determined to try to prove us wrong? 2nd. Your video, although sounding impressive seems to show you doing the exact opposite sniping to what we are saying is a problem so unless your trying to show that sniping can be done close range then you appear to have gone off track, so do you feel that you have shown this new scope is : Good to kill using headshots on moving targets 200+ m? Good for killing heavies quickly using multiple headshots? (although most avoid this with the Sr, it's vital for squad support) Good for taking into pc battles? If you were trying to say that it should be left alone because you think it will take snipers away from high places/redline then: Do you think you could out gun heavies with logibros at close range? Would you now then say that with your new appreciation of sniper rifles as cqc weapons decide to use it instead of the others available constantly? Would you take a proto sniper rifle into a pc match to use this way? As this was a montage I assume it won't show eol results so what were your scores on these maps? And would you be willing to make a video of you doing a full round like this and keep the results screens too? Lastly just because we like to snipe as a sniper, not a marksman does not mean we all want to red line snipe, and seriously I'm always posting about sniper's outlooks on the red line situation. Immediately jumping to the conclusion that because a player does not want the range nerfed on sniper rifles they must be red line players is not a neutral conclusion and reeks of bias. Sorry if this seems like I'm being awkward, I know your a good player I've seen in game a few times now but If your trying to get this reticule to stay you should expect some unhappy players that do snipe and have been doing for at least the last year and we will be wanting proof that we are wrong about our way of sniping, not the way you say we should have to do it. Well said there! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 58	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:47:00 - [8] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: So i saw all the moaning coming from snipers about the new reticle and how hard it is to get headshots, i havnt sniped since beta and all ive got is an adv sniper. As you can see in my montage there's nothing wrong. People aren't complaining about snipers. Snipers are complaining about the reticle change.. like you initially said. If you went as far as to snipe for the first time in a year and make a montage to prove the change is fine as is.. It stands to reason you'd know the details surrounding the issue. I believe your time was wasted if you were trying to affirm the change was beneficial. (in a very poor manner with quickscoping, point blank range, unconventional use of the weapon) If anything it wasn't what anyone had asked for, and so feedback here is welcome. Unconventional but cool, also sitting in one place isn't fun to watch so i mixed it up a little. Please for the love of my non-believing heart ruin snipers anymore with a statement like "Unconventional but cool"... While I respect your attitude on the complaining of CERTAIN points, I will not have someone ruin snipers with such a method of "quick scoping" when you're using it out of it's area of expertise! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:49:00 - [9] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sniping is about field of view.. If I had a small television, I would give up sniping immediately. Hey! Make do with what ya got!! Feel me? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:51:00 - [10] - Quote Also off topic here... LONG LIVE LE "S" DUST NAME STRING!!!! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:56:00 - [11] - Quote saxonmish wrote: ScolmtonFace-Smasher wrote: Please for the love of my non-believing heart ruin snipers anymore with a statement like "Unconventional but cool"... While I respect your attitude on the complaining of CERTAIN points, I will not have someone ruin snipers with such a method of "quick scoping" when you're using it out of it's area of expertise! I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh First fixed it and secondreal snipers take pot shots then move around to keep chasers from guessing where they are. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 05:57:00 - [12] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I'm tired Goodnight guys :) Night! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:05:00 - [13] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:08:00 - [14] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 200-300 Not bad at all. Also about how long is the average map if anyone knows? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 59	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:15:00 - [15] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 61	Posted - 2014.08.17 06:22:00 - [16] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: [ Hey Symbioticforks and saxonmish I personally what to know what's the closest you think snipers should shoot from range wise? For me it should be about 170-max range because of the role it takes. 170m is about as close as I want to be.. that's still seconds away from laser rifle / rail rifle range.. easily within forge range.. If you're stationary your position is rather obvious, often times there won't be good vantage points so close to relevant action. You can always to behind a good 3 or 4 1000+ ehp Gallente and Amarr Sentinel meat shield wall! Unless those 3 to 4 heavies are all forge guns.. they're not anywhere a sniper should be. But of course good fellow!! They're all proto breach!! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:16:00 - [17] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline? If read back a page you'll see my personal reason for not having it on ALL snipers or rather instead just take it away since a dot reticule is better the a circle reticule anytime of day in terms of precision which is supposed to be the snipers main point... Also I don't think anyone has problem with being in field so to speak. More of the best angles and vantages are all taken away the closer you step in. Examples of the only places on the in field are towers, the table top, those low buildings with the 4 rectangle things on top, and finally top edge of those towers that have spinning electricity in them. That's all I can think of at the moment and even then on the low buildings and the table top you're better off with an ScR, rail rifle or forge gun. Hell even swarms would perform better there. Rather than hating the hiding at a corner or shooting from out of range of the target like we should be doing in the first place; I respect those that find a tricky spot or a nice cozy spot to hold hold off a route or shot and move solely to peck off people who fk with your squad. I really respect those types because even then I say "Fk the blueberries because you're my partner not them." At least when i'm in a squad anyway... I'll make another extra statement just for those who say "Step out of the redline and get on my level." MOST OF THE BEST VANTAGE POINTS ARE IN THE F*ING STHOLE OF A DAMN THAT CCP CREATED FROM THE START!! Obviously there are spots out but not many and sitting in the open as I said earlier is asking to to die to a scrub, scout, or be picked off by another sniper wasting your time just to crouch to stop sway, line up a shot and hope they don't move or because of the circle now you have to take even longer just to get the shot you want... Now any more painfully obvious questions? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:20:00 - [18] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: saxonmish wrote: Symbioticforks wrote: saxonmish wrote: I'm just showing you theres more to sniping than sitting around 'camping' i was surprised how easy it is to snipe, i see why people who are new to the game go into it tbh That wasn't sniping. Calling your bluff, you're just arguing the point to get more views for your video. not sniping? kinda is Definitely, majority of those shots are from beyond RR range. Maybe the reticule change is part of an effort to make the sniper more of a 120m+ weapon rather than 250m+ which is what most snipers seem to think it is (then complain when the zoom isn't strong enough). How can it be a bad thing to have snipers in the field, setting up beyond the range of other rifles rather than hiding on a tower or deep in the redline? ok then, if you really believe this then start a campaign to get ohk "sniper" rifles. because at the moment they are not effective enough for that kind of play. also: 1. look up, snipers on google 2.check what current day sniping records are you will be supprised 3. People hated quick scope play in cod, why do you seem to think all of a sudden that they want us to be doing it here? do you honestly believe that we will get less hate for it? 4.you say how can it be a bad thing... well because there are alot of things that sniping consists of in dust that is not out and out killing which are still important, this would remove those elements 5.there were alot of shots in there where a rail or scrambler or laser rifle, or plc, or combat rifle (in one amusing case a shotgun or scp) would of been alot more effective. 6. do you even snipe or are you commenting on something just to try to have a negative effect on it? 7. 120m is not an effective sniping range and limits the view of the field severely, if you don't see a problem there then you clearly don't snipe. 8. do you think that this could be done in pc matches? 9."hiding on towers" showing your true biased opinion here, so i guess you think that all snipers are "cowards" (probably whilst you run around using auto aim and firing from the hip all the time) 10. if your weapon of choice is not the sniper rifle then why do you feel the need to try to ruin it for those of us who do? Snake how many people have we been trying to tell these things to and many time for just ONE person to understand? Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 65	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:42:00 - [19] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: cqc sniping awesome ,...those quickscopes remind me of my cod mw2 days... I only liked the super jump server where everyone laugh even though they were dying Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 67	Posted - 2014.08.19 19:25:00 - [20] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I can make a boring sniping vid if you really want me to. Please do to show me sniping from a long ranged point of view because I can't play dust right now Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle