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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:36:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:
Indeed. Zero feedback from this forum will be brought elsewhere.
fixed that for ya
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3106
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:37:00 -
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I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
705
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:45:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. You have to understand what your reading first before it becomes meaningful.
Welcome to Free to Play elections.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
847
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:08:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*.
For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2171
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:29:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. You have to understand what your reading first before it becomes meaningful. Welcome to Free to Play elections.
If it's free, how can you afford it?
You're too broke to pay attention, much less pay for a freebie. |
PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
716
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. You have to understand what your reading first before it becomes meaningful. Welcome to Free to Play elections. If it's free, how can you afford it? You're too broke to pay attention, much less pay for a freebie. i use the funds I acquired from all the goons tears i package and deliver to the far corners of New Eden.
Thank you for your contribution.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
3178
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:59:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Community is full of fucknuts, Community bitches because they elect fucknuts, community doesn't undersand that electing said fucknuts is their fault. You mean the youtube community ... The GOOD parts of the DUST community are gone with a few exceptions.
Member of a Dead Alliance and Dead Corp Coming through, still better than you FOTM corp hopping whores
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:01:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!
I approve of this reference. +1
We'll bang, OK?
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Cass Caul
696
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:40:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. For he is the Kwisatz Haderach! I approve of this reference. +1 -1 for attributing it to the wrong person.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
262
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:52:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I'm totally prepared for people not to see the influence of the CPM.
And it's justified for your guys to be upset when you don't know the extent of our contributions.
So feel free to type up how you feel about us.
I for one, am quite glad the CPM are around, and despite the inability to peel back the NDA and prove it, the work we're doing is worthy.
That may be, however, like all things, the rotten apple example rears its ugly head. No offense, its hard to believe you are a force of good and positive when you have skid marks like this running around:
Soraya Xel wrote:
As a more productive point: What is the nature of your butthurt that makes you hate the CPM, and how can we, your representatives, address it for you?
Soraya Xel wrote:
Stop playing the game and go away.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3111
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:11:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:No offense, its hard to believe you are a force of good and positive when you have skid marks like this running around:
To be honest, someone like that, who is only here on the forums to be toxic for the community, is going to get an answer like that from me. There are people here who have already made it clear they have no intention to see this game or this community go anywhere. But yeah, if someone doesn't like the game, they should stop playing. That's good advice for anyone.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
848
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Posted - 2014.08.17 08:19:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm actually collecting meaningful feedback in another thread like *right now*. For he is the Kwisatz Haderach! I approve of this reference. +1 -1 for attributing it to the wrong person.
But...he has taken the water of life! He can be many places at the same time!!
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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DROPSHIP CAPTAIN
ICE-9 PROJECT
41
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:22:00 -
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I see but hey look I asked a question about the matter.I'm not trying to be the bad guy here. I am sure the CPM's are doing a great job with helping dust514 not fall apart because they really enjoy the game. like it even though my kdr isn't up to your par because I was trolled in duna corp -_- but either way I am done with this for now unless something goes wrong. If your not doing your job you need to go, just like politics if you are not doing your job you get vetoed out right? but hey I wish I knew what was going on with the game behind the scenes because I will never know until the last moment. I like dust alot but I wish there were more tings that were fixed and patched but some of you are saying shhh shhh shh becasue you use it to win even if you are losing unless you Know How To Play Dust514 without using exploits. I wish you guys the best keep your negative thoughts to yourself period. Sorry if I offended any of you Current CPM's out there I was only asking a question for if someone in CPM goes mad with power. I hope you understand CPM's. |
Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
944
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Posted - 2014.08.26 22:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Thank you for the useless and highly irrelevant ad hominem attack. I'm talking about voting in general in case you didn't notice. I don't care if you voted for the Green Party, Libertarian Party, or even the Mickey Mouse Party. If you voted, you have a right to complain. But if you never even got involved in voting for anyone, then GTFO.
Unfortunately I edited the comment after you were already typing so you didn't see where I broke down my analogy. Because I had a feeling with most people who fail at logic, you won't be reasonable. If you don't believe in a system it does you no good to participate in the said system. I don't think CPM help, why would I vote for them? Was there a vote no option? An opt out as it were? No? Then reconsider who may be the fool here. But then there lies the problem when it comes to losing faith in the system. If sufficient people don't believe in the voting system, then the voting system slowly begins to break down. To put it into a better analogy, think of matchmaking in a first-person shooter like Dust. Even if Dust were to somehow have a proper matchmaking, there is not enough players playing the game to allow Scotty to keep the matches balanced so you start getting crappy matches. More players start to leave as a result, the matches become even more unbalanced as more players leave and not enough remaining players to go around to keep the matches balanced. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Honestly, the CPM1 might not have as much influence with the game as Eve Online's CSM does (the CSM actually has stakeholder power in Eve's development like the Board of Directors), but give it enough time to mature and it will succeed. It will just take years to improve. Who says we want them to have an influence? Who says we want incompetent players who bring no level of professionalism or wisdom to the "position" to have any more influence than any other random? CPM1 was voted in off of what, no more than 200 people casting their 7 votes? What a joke. I didn't vote because I don't want CPM to have a say. I'd rather CCP sink their own ship than let some randoms help them along their way.
There's an unfortunate confusion in the terminology here. There were approximately 1000 ballots cast consisting of a group of one to seven votes. Admittedly a small number compared to the overall player base, but dividing the vote count by anything other than your projected proportion of alts to unique players isn't going to give you a correct interpretation.
Have a pony
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
213
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Posted - 2014.08.27 02:55:00 -
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None of us have any reason to believe that CPM is useless. They may quite well be capable and in a position to provide well focused feedback without any of the BS.
The only issue I could take with CPM is what type of people were elected. I would want to know whether members are unbiased or not, and intellegent in their discussion with CCP or not. They may quite well be stupid or biased. They may be subject to butthurt, anger, and generally flawed reasoning often.
I have never had the occasion of meeting one in a squad and chatting with one myself. As such I am of no opinion on CPM. I hope things are working out over there and I hope they are down to earth people. |
A Cactuar
Trollolol .inc
0
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:So, like 937 votes elected the CPM1. Can you gather that many people to try and get rid of them? Not that I'm saying it would do anything even if you could, but I'm just saying, unless you can equal the amount of support that elected the CPM in the first place, you hardly have standing to claim it should be removed or replaced.
As a more productive point: What is the nature of your butthurt that makes you hate the CPM, and how can we, your representatives, address it for you?
Count the number of players who've dropped in the last 3 months. There's your votes.
Kind Regards
Chunky Munkey
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3202
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:06:00 -
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DROPSHIP CAPTAIN wrote:Sorry if I offended any of you Current CPM's out there I was only asking a question for if someone in CPM goes mad with power. I hope you understand CPM's.
That's a problem that CCP takes care of. They can remove any CPM member at any time.
That being said, CPM members have absolutely 0 power.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
884
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:50:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Thank you for the useless and highly irrelevant ad hominem attack. I'm talking about voting in general in case you didn't notice. I don't care if you voted for the Green Party, Libertarian Party, or even the Mickey Mouse Party. If you voted, you have a right to complain. But if you never even got involved in voting for anyone, then GTFO.
Unfortunately I edited the comment after you were already typing so you didn't see where I broke down my analogy. Because I had a feeling with most people who fail at logic, you won't be reasonable. If you don't believe in a system it does you no good to participate in the said system. I don't think CPM help, why would I vote for them? Was there a vote no option? An opt out as it were? No? Then reconsider who may be the fool here. But then there lies the problem when it comes to losing faith in the system. If sufficient people don't believe in the voting system, then the voting system slowly begins to break down. To put it into a better analogy, think of matchmaking in a first-person shooter like Dust. Even if Dust were to somehow have a proper matchmaking, there is not enough players playing the game to allow Scotty to keep the matches balanced so you start getting crappy matches. More players start to leave as a result, the matches become even more unbalanced as more players leave and not enough remaining players to go around to keep the matches balanced. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Honestly, the CPM1 might not have as much influence with the game as Eve Online's CSM does (the CSM actually has stakeholder power in Eve's development like the Board of Directors), but give it enough time to mature and it will succeed. It will just take years to improve. Who says we want them to have an influence? Who says we want incompetent players who bring no level of professionalism or wisdom to the "position" to have any more influence than any other random? CPM1 was voted in off of what, no more than 200 people casting their 7 votes? What a joke. I didn't vote because I don't want CPM to have a say. I'd rather CCP sink their own ship than let some randoms help them along their way. There's an unfortunate confusion in the terminology here. There were approximately 1000 ballots cast consisting of a group of one to seven votes. Admittedly a small number compared to the overall player base, but dividing the vote count by anything other than your projected proportion of alts to unique players isn't going to give you a correct interpretation. We know Youtube played a major role - second place got voted in by what, less then 80 votes? While Judge get well over 200, 300?
Dust is a Free To Play game, lots of people, if not millions, made accounts before June of last year, just in that time frame you have a considerable legit voter count. Now, how many stayed? How many watch youtube?
Judge isn't well known on the forums as others, where did he get such an avalanche lead? Obvious source, youtube. The other candidates relied on there influence around here, and they didn't get no 200+ votes, not even 100.
And how were the 7 picks each even calculated as per voter? Where is the real math, rather then number release from CCP?
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
558
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:55:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote: We know Youtube played a major role - second place got voted in by what, less then 80 votes? While Judge get well over 200, 300?
Dust is a Free To Play game, lots of people, if not millions, made accounts before June of last year, just in that time frame you have a considerable legit voter count. Now, how many stayed? How many watch youtube?
Judge isn't well known on the forums as others, where did he get such an avalanche lead? Obvious source, youtube. The other candidates relied on there influence around here, and they didn't get no 200+ votes, not even 100.
And how were the 7 picks each even calculated as per voter? Where is the real math, rather then number release from CCP?
they released all the data with the elections, there was a paste bin link with every step of the election process inside the data somewhere on the forums
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
884
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:00:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:PoP SoTa wrote: We know Youtube played a major role - second place got voted in by what, less then 80 votes? While Judge get well over 200, 300?
Dust is a Free To Play game, lots of people, if not millions, made accounts before June of last year, just in that time frame you have a considerable legit voter count. Now, how many stayed? How many watch youtube?
Judge isn't well known on the forums as others, where did he get such an avalanche lead? Obvious source, youtube. The other candidates relied on there influence around here, and they didn't get no 200+ votes, not even 100.
And how were the 7 picks each even calculated as per voter? Where is the real math, rather then number release from CCP?
they released all the data with the elections, there was a paste bin link with every step of the election process inside the data somewhere on the forums damn, missed that, will have to go look.
I still highly doubt they can separate those who voted because of youtube vs voted because they care.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
558
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:03:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:PoP SoTa wrote: We know Youtube played a major role - second place got voted in by what, less then 80 votes? While Judge get well over 200, 300?
Dust is a Free To Play game, lots of people, if not millions, made accounts before June of last year, just in that time frame you have a considerable legit voter count. Now, how many stayed? How many watch youtube?
Judge isn't well known on the forums as others, where did he get such an avalanche lead? Obvious source, youtube. The other candidates relied on there influence around here, and they didn't get no 200+ votes, not even 100.
And how were the 7 picks each even calculated as per voter? Where is the real math, rather then number release from CCP?
they released all the data with the elections, there was a paste bin link with every step of the election process inside the data somewhere on the forums damn, missed that, will have to go look. I still highly doubt they can separate those who voted because of youtube vs voted because they care.
I dont think it went into that much detail, but i believe one of the files does show what each ballot specifically voted for
Prime League champion
SGL Sidearm champion
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2055
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:15:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Frankly less than 10% of the total playerbase voted for the cpm to begin with so it would be intresting to see what the % would be if we were allowed to vote them out and i wouldnt be suprised if it was higher
Then that 90% has no right to complain. Yes they do because 10% has voted for something that 90% dont want No particular sides taken in this argument, I have no interest in Dust politics anymore. Just wanted to point out that you make no sense whatsoever.
If 90% of the population refuses to vote in a country, let's say America, and the 10% that did vote ended up electing a person that the majority of the country thought was doing a bad job, you know what happens? They start giving a damn, paying attention, voting, then vote for the other guy in the next election cycle.
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