450 shield hp and 86.48 shield hp/s and a 3.07 seconds shield delay is possible with two complex energizers but only on the proto cal ass.

i posted the fit earlier in this thread.

OK if you want to play that game, you also have a free complex shield extender worth 54 CPU and 11 PG.

I don't hate the Caldari I just don't think you deserve a huge CPU buff on top of the CPU buff that Rattati posted. I find it ridiculous that you think you should be able to put on 2 regulators, 2 energizer, and stack HP as well.

Killer wrote:
And yet armor tankers get 2 complex reps, 2 complex plates and shield extenders...

Using the fit that death posted you will match the armor tanker in total hp repaired by 4 seconds and totally surpass them following.

Armor tanker with 550 hp @ 20 hp/s will take 28 seconds to fully repair. With only one energizer you could reach 540 hp with 50 hp/s and a 3 sec delay = 14 seconds full repair.

I don't think I need to say more about this.

Killer wrote:
And yet armor tankers get 2 complex reps, 2 complex plates and shield extenders...

Using the fit that death posted you will match the armor tanker in total hp repaired by 4 seconds and totally surpass them following.

Armor tanker with 550 hp @ 20 hp/s will take 28 seconds to fully repair. With only one energizer you could reach 540 hp with 50 hp/s and a 3 sec delay = 14 seconds full repair.

I don't think I need to say more about this.

^ oops sorry about that

Not angry man, just trying to show you that you don't need more CPU. Caldari Assault fits are looking pretty impressive as is (at least at pro)

Killer wrote:
And yet armor tankers get 2 complex reps, 2 complex plates and shield extenders...

Using the fit that death posted you will match the armor tanker in total hp repaired by 4 seconds and totally surpass them following.

Armor tanker with 550 hp @ 20 hp/s will take 28 seconds to fully repair. With only one energizer you could reach 540 hp with 50 hp/s and a 3 sec delay = 14 seconds full repair.

I don't think I need to say more about this.

Dear players,

We have been revisiting a lot of the PG/CPU (I will call it Capacity or Cap from now on) per dropsuit in the last months. It has become blatantly clear, by a lot of definitons, that Assault suits have too little capacity and Sentinels have way too much.

Data points such as comparing capacity per slot for all the roles, and fitting limitations of the Assault. We tried and testing multiple combinations of full proto items in all slots, and the difference is very noticeable.

The use of Assault Rifle Sentinels is also very prevalent and not something the game is balanced around, but we have not wanted to enforce Heavy weapons only in the Heavy Weapon slot, but will address it differently.

For these numbers, an improved methodology of capacity slot allotment per individual slot has been worked out, so that the capacity is the sum of all slots, balanced per tier and slot type and race. That means that a slot layout change can be represented immediately in a new capacity.

The result can be found in the following document.

Dropsuit Capacity

The effective buff is around 10% increased capacity to Assaults, and an effective 10% nerf to Sentinel capacity, the reduction being offset by a 5% per level fitting reduction to Heavy Weapons.

By these changes, Sentinels are still considerably ahead of the second highest capacity per slot, the Commando, and the third highest, the Scout. The Assault, having been the lowest, will be placed in and around Scouts and Logistics. We believe these changes are warranted and fair. We encourage you to prove, and demonstrate, that some viable fittings are OP or UP, and we will take those into consideration with the final numbers.

Please keep it civil and constructive

P.S.
We also buffed Minmatar Scout PG a little

EDIT: Please do not factor in the theoretical new layout. Use current slot layouts for theory crafting as those are familiar to you. Combining the two discussions will result in inconclusive data for us.

Ok that's a bit cheat lol
- 3 shield extenders
- 2 basic shield energizer
- light weapon proto
- sidearm weapon basic
- m1
- nanohive
- 2 enhanced shield regulator

=> shield regen : 53,4hp/sec
=> (if CCP gives +120hp shield) (210 + 120)x1.25 + 3x72.2 = 629.1hp shield
=> shield delay regen : 2.75sec
=> shield spent delay regen : 4.56sec

Hoooo yeah

53 hp/s? Lol, barely anything for shield suits since armor rep buff.

Uhhhhh, have you tried reps?

Uhhhhh, have you tried reps?

Yes
20 hp/s no delsy, more hp, logis can rep you, in pc you never need to wait for s logi because it's pc.

Yes
20 hp/s no delsy, more hp, logis can rep you, in pc you never need to wait for s logi because it's pc.

Disregarding the new slot layout:

Pro cal assault:

2 complex extenders

2 complex energizers

1 complex CPU mod

2 complex regulators

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377 shield hp

86.48 shield hp/s

~3/3.5 second shield delay

~8 second depleted shield delay

And the fitting cost, and slower speed from plates and the fact that any armour based suit can't get near the shield regain a shield suit has but any shield based suit can get the armour repair of armour suits.

Not to mention you are comparing complex reps on a Gallente assault to enhanced mods.

Fixed

And shield hp is pathetic no matter the recharge rate.

Enjoy dying in 5 shots from a scr...

Or two charge shots. But running max hp only helps in 1v1 and no matter what we do, armor tankers will have more hp. And even 553 shield hp with 4 complex extenders won't save you from a scr or LR. I actually die faster that way as the regen is so low you can't recover fast enough to either fight back or run away

53 hp/s? Lol, barely anything for shield suits since armor rep buff.

That is a good point.

You shouldnt nerfed the caldari and minmatarr sentinels. They allready have the lowest amount of HP and are overshadowed by gallente and amarr cause they can be repaired which encourages plate stacking.

Uhhhhh, have you tried reps?

We are applying a consistent method to PG/CPU calculations and balancing. We, therefore, need to make shield tanking more viable to make these suits competitive or give them better bonuses.

I don't think you understand, what's your lifetime sp just for curiosity? And gallente is just superior in terms of the cal play style since they're are alot of logis in a competitive environment.