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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:53:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Dear players, We have been revisiting a lot of the PG/CPU (I will call it Capacity or Cap from now on) per dropsuit in the last months. It has become blatantly clear, by a lot of definitons, that Assault suits have too little capacity and Sentinels have way too much. Data points such as comparing capacity per slot for all the roles, and fitting limitations of the Assault. We tried and testing multiple combinations of full proto items in all slots, and the difference is very noticeable. The use of Assault Rifle Sentinels is also very prevalent and not something the game is balanced around, but we have not wanted to enforce Heavy weapons only in the Heavy Weapon slot, but will address it differently. For these numbers, an improved methodology of capacity slot allotment per individual slot has been worked out, so that the capacity is the sum of all slots, balanced per tier and slot type and race. That means that a slot layout change can be represented immediately in a new capacity. The result can be found in the following document. Dropsuit CapacityThe effective buff is around 10% increased capacity to Assaults, and an effective 10% nerf to Sentinel capacity, the reduction being offset by a 5% per level fitting reduction to Heavy Weapons. By these changes, Sentinels are still considerably ahead of the second highest capacity per slot, the Commando, and the third highest, the Scout. The Assault, having been the lowest, will be placed in and around Scouts and Logistics. We believe these changes are warranted and fair. We encourage you to prove, and demonstrate, that some viable fittings are OP or UP, and we will take those into consideration with the final numbers. Please keep it civil and constructive P.S. We also buffed Minmatar Scout PG a little Hi Rattati ! I've already seen for the PRO Caldari Assault... And it needs more CPU, I don't want more CPU to do an OP suit, but if I want to have a good Caldari-suit, I must have more CPU I propose : 317 => 330CPU So 330x1.30 = 429 CPU I think it's correct like this Because with 17CPU more, I could have +22.1 finally, but it's not enought to have a basic shield energizer However, thank you for changes and for listening to us
That's not quite how it works fyi
(317*1.05)*1.25 = 416
My min assault currently has 420 when maxed out and I have made the 5/2 layout work pretty well with this amount of CPU. However, fitting a beast mode energizer or two should require a CPU mod. It's part of the balance structure of shield recharge.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:11:00 -
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@ killer
You forget that you have better base shield recharge, shield delay, and shield depleted delay than my minmatar assault has. So you're effectively getting what my min assault has now except with 2 free basic mods attached.
Look there's balance between recharge and delay. If you want super high recharge you have to sacrifice shield delay and vise versa.
You guys are gonna be able to achieve 450 HP @ 80 hp/s. Seriously what are you complaining about?
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:08:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Boot Booter wrote:@ killer
You forget that you have better base shield recharge, shield delay, and shield depleted delay than my minmatar assault has. So you're effectively getting what my min assault has now except with 2 free basic mods attached.
Look there's balance between recharge and delay. If you want super high recharge you have to sacrifice shield delay and vise versa.
You guys are gonna be able to achieve 450 HP @ 80 hp/s. Seriously what are you complaining about? Ok, I've better shield regulator and shield regen, but, what do you have you ? - more speed - more stamine - more armor passive hp - more stamina regen Sorry, I know what must the Caldari have to fit a ggod suit... And if Caldari gets more CPU, the other races would get more CPU too... So... What's the problem ? Do you hate Caldari ? Do you want we not to have a good fit ? Or do you just think the suppl buff would be just for Caldari ? EDIT : with the PG/CPU buff, we could get less PG/CPU than you have now... ouch.... EDIT2 : you say we have "2 free mod more than you" => you have many freemods more than us : - cardiac regulator - kinetic catalyser - ferroscale plate 3 mods free more pg cpu
OK if you want to play that game, you also have a free complex shield extender worth 54 CPU and 11 PG.
I don't hate the Caldari I just don't think you deserve a huge CPU buff on top of the CPU buff that Rattati posted. I find it ridiculous that you think you should be able to put on 2 regulators, 2 energizer, and stack HP as well.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:40:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:JRleo jr wrote:
Also acting like 450 hp is anything, besides you can't get 80 hp/s...
450 shield hp and 86.48 shield hp/s and a 3.07 seconds shield delay is possible with two complex energizers but only on the proto cal ass. i posted the fit earlier in this thread.
Killer wrote: And yet armor tankers get 2 complex reps, 2 complex plates and shield extenders...
Using the fit that death posted you will match the armor tanker in total hp repaired by 4 seconds and totally surpass them following.
Armor tanker with 550 hp @ 20 hp/s will take 28 seconds to fully repair. With only one energizer you could reach 540 hp with 50 hp/s and a 3 sec delay = 14 seconds full repair.
I don't think I need to say more about this.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:43:00 -
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Can someone please attempt a assault ak. 0 fit as well as a gk. 0 for comparison? I specifically worried about these two, namely that amarr will be more desirable.
I'm working on a minmatar at the moment.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:50:00 -
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^ oops sorry about that
Not angry man, just trying to show you that you don't need more CPU. Caldari Assault fits are looking pretty impressive as is (at least at pro)
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:14:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Please, when theorycrafting, whether to prove the Sentinels are now broken or still OP, or the vice versa for Assault, provide links to protofits. We will not be able to keep up testing them.
Much appreciated
Erm... that would require protofits to be updated with new slot layout and capacity changes. Or am I missing something?
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Also, Grenades will be factored into the Fitting bonus for Assaults, currently Light Weapons and Sidearms only.
I really really like this idea. Powerful grenades play an important role in PC and could really help assaults carve out their role. 5% per level to fitting would probably suffice.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.19 06:51:00 -
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Well it does kinda make more sense for both fitting styles and balance reasons.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2014.07.19 08:34:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Well it does kinda make more sense for both fitting styles and balance reasons. And the cal assault cpu is much better.
haha true.
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