Didn't read, tanker tears delicious.

at first I was going to give back some valid point but then decided not to because your main argument is based off **** talk. so key board warrior it up and let me know when you get those kind of balls to say that to someones face let alone over a mic

Of course I'd incorporate trash talk into my argument. The entire premise of your arguments are based on:

• Ad Hominem
• Bating
• Failed Attempts at Reverse Psychology

I'd be glad to say it to your face, or on comms. It won't change my opinion.

Of course I'd incorporate trash talk into my argument. The entire premise of your arguments are based on:

• Ad Hominem
• Bating
• Failed Attempts at Reverse Psychology

I'd be glad to say it to your face, or on comms. It won't change my opinion.

****** of the year here.

That's because you're a ******.

Lets not forget that manpower is only part of the equation. Think in man minutes. Look at ttk. 2 militia players can down a proto player in 2 seconds. Despite his advantage he can be overcome in short time by a realistically sized team. The amount of man time used is 4 seconds. Put another way; a gear advantage can be overcome by numbers yet not restrict the disadvantaged team as little man time is used up.

The OP proposes that 4 players take two minutes to kill one player. Thats 8 man minutes on just a single player. In other words :

Out of the 240 man minutes in a match. The OP thinks that 3% of the entire teams possible effort should be focused on 1 guy over a whole match. Thats 16% of a full teams time in a game to kill your 4 tankers just once.

I hope more people read this.

Challenge accepted. In fact I think anyone in this thread to make that video for you.

I wanna see it in open combat bro. two milta front lines vs a decked out proto of an caliber PROTO GUN PROTO MODS EVERYTHING and if I so much as get a whiff of bs I wont keep my end.

I'd start the biomass now.

If you think two Militia players can't take out a fully decked Proto suit, you've clearly been in the tank for too damn long.

WHEN YOU SHOW ME HARD EVIDENCE OF A PROTO PLAYER BEING DOWNED BY TWO MILITAS LEGETLY I WILL BIOMASS MY TANK CHARCTER PERSONALLY.

Umm a skilled player (or even just a lucky one) in a starter fit can easily take out a player in a proto-dropsuit on their own.

Someone, use a video capture card and do this quick. I demand this fool begin the biomassing process. The forums, and perhaps Dust in general, would be better without him.

dude it took 4 AV to push me back permanently back. WITH NO DAMAGE MODS OR PROF AND THIS IS JUST OF ADV LVL. imagine what prtoto variant's do with all their damage amps and max prof and stacked numbers for some reason my team gets redline by AV all the time how. Idk xD

so I " hope more people read this "

I'd start the biomass now.

If you think two Militia players can't take out a fully decked Proto suit, you've clearly been in the tank for too damn long.

F*cktards like this is why tankers have such a bad reputation. Such a disgrace to the tanking community as a whole.

Why should it takes three forgers to kill one tanker? Understand this, if two squads are going at it, and one squad has a tanker, then the leftover infantry would be 3 vs 5...

As a tanker, I don't want to have to have three guys shooting at me to kill me, I'm fine with being solo-able, as long as you fix my blaster... please don't tell me it's supposed to be AV only, cause that's stupid as sh*t.

I love when people say things like "and they didn't even have damage mods or proficiency". As if it's normal for a vehicle pilot to capture glimpses of 4 digit ehp numbers and do rapid arithmetic all while piloting a vehicle in order to determine whether or not there is a possible combination of DMs/proficiency/weapon that could have delivered the received damage in each hit.

I'm not necessarily claiming that I know you weren't able to do this, but I would be willing to bet that very few people record the match and do the math later to determine an enemy fit. I don't believe anyone can realistically keep up with 4 different AV sources reliably in the heat of the moment so I don't really give credit to many of these "4 FG gunners could/couldn't kill a MLT tank" stories. They're most likely exaggerated on both ends of this classic argument.

Alright before I get down to the basics id like to go on note some people have gotten very sensitive about my topics and have responded with very negative feed back heres what I think in a few short letters I D G A F. KK? good(: I get on here to post my opoioun and read little or no feed make of my posts. why you may ask? because the only people that get on the fourms are to complain about not getting to proto stomp that is really it and what is in the way of them getting to proto stomp 90% of the time oh well you know vechicles :D but anyways enough about you guys now on things that actually matter like THE GAME and NOT YOU :p (no offense to those who actually agree to what I have to say which account for about 20% of you)


ok DEV this is the part I want you to read if you read any of this at all. its my understanding that FG and swarm launcher prof was not working before hotfix bravo (trust me the still hit hard as heck then to) so now that they do work wouldn't you consider that a buff right? :) OHHHH BUT WAIT! tanks get nerfed? what?!?! :O!!! *shock flows through the entire DEV crew* so basicly tanks get nerfed and the very thing to kill tanks gets buffed?!? Now tell me.... whos idea was that now? :p

Now let me give you an example of my ANTI-AV (anti -- anti vehicle) tank before bravo. It had a armor REP rate of 468.00 it was straight invincible against 2 ADV level forge guns with a enhanced HVY damage AMP on them each. I could kill them each time but when you threw 3-4 into the mix (this was all a controlled experiment btw) it got dangerous and tricky for me eventually a crew of 4 ADV lvl forge gunners could take out my best anti AV tank after a minute or two as it should be taking down a tank in a game like dust SHLOULD ALWAYS BE A TEAM EFFORT AND NEVER BE ABLE TO BE DONE SOLO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO YOUR AV as much as people say it us tankers don't have " I win buttons " the are critical mistakes that can be made at a moments notice that can cost us from 200k-500kisk in a heart beat if anyone has it easy mode right now its AV on roof tops as I have said it before. I have 19mil SP in nothing but dropships and tanks and I lose them ALMOST EVERY GAME.

but I personally don't even try to help the milita stand up to you proto pub stompers anymore I just blow up unstall and crap and wait for the game to end. in the end its not tankers who are suffering. its yet again the new players. once I retreat to the redline you put away the proto forge gun and pull out the boundless HMG and go to town on the front lines now don't yah? I used to be able to put those kind of player in line but now I just cant. I really don't know what dev was thinking.

anyways I have an HDPVR on its way in the mail ill have vids up on you tube with in the week. ill actually pay attention to your replys here to see if you guys want any links.


6:30am the following morning- well guys I stayed up this long replying to your very sensitive posts and I say im not as shocked as I thought I would be thank you for your feed back. Any more posts that I make don't expect any more replys because I simply don't have time for your you know what as do the DEV and everyone else. um... like ive said before I will be making youtube videos within the week of dust game play it will be very high quality stuff ill try not to make the videos not waste to much of your time but I hear editing it time consumeing stuff so well see. Voice commentary of me and buds like that are expected as long as my equipment can handle it im not a shy little voice cracking nerd like allot of YOU out there. THANK YAH SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME LOVE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY MUCH:D

did you not read everything I said? your not going to read through it througuhly don't read it at all please. I understand im not the easiest to understand but im a hell of allot more clear then the DEV now you said " I love it when people say they didn't have damage mods or prof" WELL I KNOW THEY DIDNT BECAUSE IT WAS A CONTROLLED EXPERMENT ON AN OCEANA SERVER LIKE I SAID I may have left out it was on a ocieana server but I know I put in there somewhere or at least throught what I was typing that that 1-4 man AV crew WAS A TEST

Alright before I get down to the basics id like to go on note some people have gotten very sensitive about my topics and have responded with very negative feed back heres what I think in a few short letters I D G A F. KK? good(: I get on here to post my opoioun and read little or no feed make of my posts. why you may ask? because the only people that get on the fourms are to complain about not getting to proto stomp that is really it and what is in the way of them getting to proto stomp 90% of the time oh well you know vechicles :D but anyways enough about you guys now on things that actually matter like THE GAME and NOT YOU :p (no offense to those who actually agree to what I have to say which account for about 20% of you)


ok DEV this is the part I want you to read if you read any of this at all. its my understanding that FG and swarm launcher prof was not working before hotfix bravo (trust me the still hit hard as heck then to) so now that they do work wouldn't you consider that a buff right? :) OHHHH BUT WAIT! tanks get nerfed? what?!?! :O!!! *shock flows through the entire DEV crew* so basicly tanks get nerfed and the very thing to kill tanks gets buffed?!? Now tell me.... whos idea was that now? :p

Now let me give you an example of my ANTI-AV (anti -- anti vehicle) tank before bravo. It had a armor REP rate of 468.00 it was straight invincible against 2 ADV level forge guns with a enhanced HVY damage AMP on them each. I could kill them each time but when you threw 3-4 into the mix (this was all a controlled experiment btw) it got dangerous and tricky for me eventually a crew of 4 ADV lvl forge gunners could take out my best anti AV tank after a minute or two as it should be taking down a tank in a game like dust SHLOULD ALWAYS BE A TEAM EFFORT AND NEVER BE ABLE TO BE DONE SOLO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO YOUR AV as much as people say it us tankers don't have " I win buttons " the are critical mistakes that can be made at a moments notice that can cost us from 200k-500kisk in a heart beat if anyone has it easy mode right now its AV on roof tops as I have said it before. I have 19mil SP in nothing but dropships and tanks and I lose them ALMOST EVERY GAME.

but I personally don't even try to help the milita stand up to you proto pub stompers anymore I just blow up unstall and crap and wait for the game to end. in the end its not tankers who are suffering. its yet again the new players. once I retreat to the redline you put away the proto forge gun and pull out the boundless HMG and go to town on the front lines now don't yah? I used to be able to put those kind of player in line but now I just cant. I really don't know what dev was thinking.

anyways I have an HDPVR on its way in the mail ill have vids up on you tube with in the week. ill actually pay attention to your replys here to see if you guys want any links.


6:30am the following morning- well guys I stayed up this long replying to your very sensitive posts and I say im not as shocked as I thought I would be thank you for your feed back. Any more posts that I make don't expect any more replys because I simply don't have time for your you know what as do the DEV and everyone else. um... like ive said before I will be making youtube videos within the week of dust game play it will be very high quality stuff ill try not to make the videos not waste to much of your time but I hear editing it time consumeing stuff so well see. Voice commentary of me and buds like that are expected as long as my equipment can handle it im not a shy little voice cracking nerd like allot of YOU out there. THANK YAH SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME LOVE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY MUCH:D

While this looks like a flame thread at first, a detailed reading leads me to believe it is in fact genuine. This character is from May 2013, and has a realistic corp history including tankers unite. SO lets at least start with a fair reading and response. And Im guessing my posting will summon Taka to the thread, and I apologise in advance for that.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?

Didn't read, tanker tears delicious.

While this looks like a flame thread at first, a detailed reading leads me to believe it is in fact genuine. This character is from May 2013, and has a realistic corp history including tankers unite. SO lets at least start with a fair reading and response. And Im guessing my posting will summon Taka to the thread, and I apologise in advance for that.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?