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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:03:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:Alright before I get down to the basics id like to go on note some people have gotten very sensitive about my topics and have responded with very negative feed back heres what I think in a few short letters I D G A F. KK? good(: I get on here to post my opoioun and read little or no feed make of my posts. why you may ask? because the only people that get on the fourms are to complain about not getting to proto stomp that is really it and what is in the way of them getting to proto stomp 90% of the time oh well you know vechicles :D but anyways enough about you guys now on things that actually matter like THE GAME and NOT YOU :p (no offense to those who actually agree to what I have to say which account for about 20% of you)
ok DEV this is the part I want you to read if you read any of this at all. its my understanding that FG and swarm launcher prof was not working before hotfix bravo (trust me the still hit hard as heck then to) so now that they do work wouldn't you consider that a buff right? :) OHHHH BUT WAIT! tanks get nerfed? what?!?! :O!!! *shock flows through the entire DEV crew* so basicly tanks get nerfed and the very thing to kill tanks gets buffed?!? Now tell me.... whos idea was that now? :p
Now let me give you an example of my ANTI-AV (anti -- anti vehicle) tank before bravo. It had a armor REP rate of 468.00 it was straight invincible against 2 ADV level forge guns with a enhanced HVY damage AMP on them each. I could kill them each time but when you threw 3-4 into the mix (this was all a controlled experiment btw) it got dangerous and tricky for me eventually a crew of 4 ADV lvl forge gunners could take out my best anti AV tank after a minute or two as it should be taking down a tank in a game like dust SHLOULD ALWAYS BE A TEAM EFFORT AND NEVER BE ABLE TO BE DONE SOLO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO YOUR AV as much as people say it us tankers don't have " I win buttons " the are critical mistakes that can be made at a moments notice that can cost us from 200k-500kisk in a heart beat if anyone has it easy mode right now its AV on roof tops as I have said it before. I have 19mil SP in nothing but dropships and tanks and I lose them ALMOST EVERY GAME.
but I personally don't even try to help the milita stand up to you proto pub stompers anymore I just blow up unstall and crap and wait for the game to end. in the end its not tankers who are suffering. its yet again the new players. once I retreat to the redline you put away the proto forge gun and pull out the boundless HMG and go to town on the front lines now don't yah? I used to be able to put those kind of player in line but now I just cant. I really don't know what dev was thinking.
anyways I have an HDPVR on its way in the mail ill have vids up on you tube with in the week. ill actually pay attention to your replys here to see if you guys want any links.
6:30am the following morning- well guys I stayed up this long replying to your very sensitive posts and I say im not as shocked as I thought I would be thank you for your feed back. Any more posts that I make don't expect any more replys because I simply don't have time for your you know what as do the DEV and everyone else. um... like ive said before I will be making youtube videos within the week of dust game play it will be very high quality stuff ill try not to make the videos not waste to much of your time but I hear editing it time consumeing stuff so well see. Voice commentary of me and buds like that are expected as long as my equipment can handle it im not a shy little voice cracking nerd like allot of YOU out there. THANK YAH SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME LOVE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY MUCH:D
I cant believe the garbage you are trying to pass off. How can you try to say that fixing a broken skill is a buff? That is the most ******** thing i have ever heard of. Tanks as they are can't be killed by less then 4 players which means that now there is 4 people that have no way of fighting against foot troops only tank and drop ships. Having to use close to an entire squad to handle 1 tank is way to much and if tanks did get nerfed then it's because it was needed.
Fixing a skill is not a buff just because something works the way it supposed to work. A buff is when they raise the stats of something( that was for all the morons that don't know the difference between a buff and a fix of skills) |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.07 21:26:00 -
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So this whole thread is nothing but a tanker whining and crying that AV is to OP.
Lets break this sh!t down
AV
1) All nades have been nerfed so you can only carry 1 or 2 max and so they are so weak that they can't even hurt a mlt tank
2) Swarms have been nerfed to the point that you need proto with as many damage mods as you can use to do any damage
3) Forges have been nerfed so that unless you get a direct hit a tank driver will laugh at you while tearing you up with his blasters and you need 3-4 proto forges to make a tank retreat.
Tanks and ADS
1) You have so much hp that you dont need to care about 1 or 2 AV players, especially with heavy repers
2) You can sit in the red line or behind the red line and get 20-30 kills with a large rail gun and not even worry about AV, and ADS can fly so high that you can barely even see them
3) You have hardeners and speed mod that make it so that unless you have a person from the Short Bus driving you can escape any and all attempts to use AV against you
All in all i would say that any tankers or ADS users should stop b!tching about CCP fixing a skill that was broken just to give us AV users any kind of fighting chance against you tankers that stack plates and repers and laugh at the people who even try and destroy your tank or ADS.
When are you tankers and ADS b!tches gonna stop whining and crying about losing a tank, when CCP makes it so that tanks and ADS are the only means of playing the game because nothing can kill them?
When are you b!tches gonna stop ruin the game for everyone else? Because of tanks and ADS ambush got so messed up they had to ban vechieles of any kind, they took out logi LAV and there is no plans to add them back into the game because all you vechile drivers abused them to the point they had to remove them.
If you idiot tank drivers don't stop your whining and crying and b!tching they will end up taking all the tanks and drop ships and lavs out of them game completely, then wtf you tankers gonna do? Because every one and their mother already knows that you only got into tanking and ads because you can't get any kills with any of the light or heavy or side arm weapons in the game so you had to start using the only thing that you can get kills with. |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:17:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Eko Sol wrote:I'm going to say this straight up.
You literally go into matches, pull out your tank, and run over other friendlies LAV's.
At some point, a scrub like you and your opinion is 100% worthless. I will repeat this on every thread you ever start.
everyone has done that at some point....blue dots steal my lavs all the time and i go around ramming every lav on the map for revenge...that doesnt mean you have to muck up all his forum posts :/...butt hurt much? thats like me spitting all over the sniper qq threads because i dislike redline thales....im not doing it...i want to but im not.
What he means is that this dude does it on purpose, if he see a LAV on map red or bluen he makes sure to ram into it.
He might also be one of the lamos that when they see a blue tank that weaker then his he will ram it and run it over until it blows up.
Oh when you admitt that you a cowardly whiny b!tch that hides in red line with rail tank that makes all you argeuments about how AV needs to be nerfed 10000000% worthless. Red line tankers are a joke because they to scared to come out and fight in a place they have a chance get killed.
Well guess what buddy you just painted a huge red X on your self now because i hunt red line tanks with my jihad lav. its so tasty when i can destroy your 250k-500k tank with it only cost me 6k isk for my r/e
And for the record i have skilled into infintry and tanks and ads so i know what im talking about. |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:49:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:843-Vika wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Eko Sol wrote:I'm going to say this straight up.
You literally go into matches, pull out your tank, and run over other friendlies LAV's.
At some point, a scrub like you and your opinion is 100% worthless. I will repeat this on every thread you ever start.
everyone has done that at some point....blue dots steal my lavs all the time and i go around ramming every lav on the map for revenge...that doesnt mean you have to muck up all his forum posts :/...butt hurt much? thats like me spitting all over the sniper qq threads because i dislike redline thales....im not doing it...i want to but im not. What he means is that this dude does it on purpose, if he see a LAV on map red or bluen he makes sure to ram into it. He might also be one of the lamos that when they see a blue tank that weaker then his he will ram it and run it over until it blows up. Oh when you admitt that you a cowardly whiny b!tch that hides in red line with rail tank that makes all you argeuments about how AV needs to be nerfed 10000000% worthless. Red line tankers are a joke because they to scared to come out and fight in a place they have a chance get killed. Well guess what buddy you just painted a huge red X on your self now because i hunt red line tanks with my jihad lav. its so tasty when i can destroy your 250k-500k tank with it only cost me 6k isk for my r/e And for the record i have skilled into infintry and tanks and ads so i know what im talking about. *british accent* would you like a cup'O tea to calm ya nerves their mate?
My nerves are just fine, idk about yours since you started this thread on the basis that since a skill got fixed that's is a buff which is the biggest joke i have ever heard. especially since your argument about it is totally flawed.
How can you consider something a buff when it was made to work as intended? /now if they increased they damage or charge time, then i would agree with you but they didn't. All they did was fix a broken skill. Just like when laser rifles were broken, when they fixed a skill was that a nerf or just making it work as intended?
If it worked that only a tank could kill a tank, then wtf did they put swarms and forges into the game for? To give people the option to completely waste the sp that they have to fight to earn, while you sit in the red line and rack up kills? If it was ment to be only tanks could kill tanks then this would not be Dust 514, it would be Wold of Tanks because no one would bother with light or heavy or side arm weapons since nothing other then tanks and ads since nothing could kill them.
Before you start raging about AV having a broken skill fixed, try using your brain for thinking instead of sitting on it. |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:27:00 -
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Why do i get the feeling that this noob was one of the murder taxi drivers when we had logi LAVs. I'm talking about the noob who started this thread. Such a total noob cake it makes me laugh. |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:18:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:843-Vika wrote:Why do i get the feeling that this noob was one of the murder taxi drivers when we had logi LAVs. I'm talking about the noob who started this thread. Such a total noob cake it makes me laugh. seriously dude accept my tea offer I can feel the anger coming off those key strokes man :)
I'll drink tea made out of your tears after i kill your triple rep and double damage mod tank that only a noob tries to run in 1.8.
Every skilled tanker knows that since bravo hot fix they nerfed tank repers and that its all about speed and scans. Scans so you can see all the reds around you and speed so you can get away from the treats.
Now if your to thick headed to see that everyone is trying to tell you that your a bad tanker then it's not my fault. Get good at tanking then cry about things being unbalanced.
If you want to talk about unbalanced tanks and AV, I can remember times when swarms were free fire, forges could 2-3 shot any tak and kill 3-4 infintry at once, when tanks were so op that all you could ever do was run from them or hope and pray another tanker was on your team.
There were ups and downs for both sides, and right now it's at it best. Reasons are that you need more then one person running AV to kill a tank but not an entire squad. While at the same time tanks have a way to escape from the worst of it and have a chance to survive |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:36:00 -
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I came onto your post as a tanker and a scout, with no intention to trash you at all. But when you start your thread by saying that fixing a skill is the same as getting a buff, my "dumba$$ alert" starts going off especially when you say you don't bother to read what people are trying to tell you( including me ).
Any skilled ( not skills you spend sp on ) will tell you that trying to tank using a fit that worked in the previous builds will not work in this build. You have to be change your fits to work with the build. In my corp we have blaster tankers that hardly ever lose tanks because they were smart about there fits, they don't hide in red line and they don't stay in the middle of a red AV team.
As for my corp being a proto stomper corp that is a joke. My corp don't go straight for proto unless its a pc, because no one can afford to lose 200k isk or more costing suits, just like tankers can't afford to lose 200k isk or more tanks.
Again use the brain you got for thinking and not as a cushion for you a$$
Just because my corp regularly destroys your red line tanks don't mean we are proto stompers, just means we tank smarter not harder |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:51:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:843-Vika wrote:I came onto your post as a tanker and a scout, with no intention to trash you at all. But when you start your thread by saying that fixing a skill is the same as getting a buff, my "dumba$$ alert" starts going off especially when you say you don't bother to read what people are trying to tell you( including me ).
Any skilled ( not skills you spend sp on ) will tell you that trying to tank using a fit that worked in the previous builds will not work in this build. You have to be change your fits to work with the build. In my corp we have blaster tankers that hardly ever lose tanks because they were smart about there fits, they don't hide in red line and they don't stay in the middle of a red AV team.
As for my corp being a proto stomper corp that is a joke. My corp don't go straight for proto unless its a pc, because no one can afford to lose 200k isk or more costing suits, just like tankers can't afford to lose 200k isk or more tanks.
Again use the brain you got for thinking and not as a cushion for you a$$
Just because my corp regularly destroys your red line tanks don't mean we are proto stompers, just means we tank smarter not harder here AV scum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI oh wait I saw that bit where you said your corp regularly destroy red line tanks and what now do you wanna run a sync deploy and put that theory to the test? because Im willing to be youll be the one without enough reline if not im done with you
Its called being smart redline = jihad, my 6k isk to your 200k isk.
you can't hide from something that can drive faster then you can charge and fire.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 18:01:00 -
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I never said i was backing down, i just said a scrub tanker like you only deserves a jihad. Why would i waste a tank on a red line tank, when i can just drive up to you and destroy your tank.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:44:00 -
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Tanker Tears Tea........Made From The Best Stuff In New Eden |
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:17:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:I would tell you all where you are wrong because us tankers simply are always right but I wont because I don't have time for you right now maybe later.
like my friend said AV "nigxggas will never be satisfied until they can 1shot you with a sniper rifle at full health all hardeners on"
THIS COMMENT IS FOR SCRUB TANKERS THAT THINK LIKE PANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If scrub a$$ tankers like you were always right then Dust 514 would have been shut down long time ago because no one would want to play it.
I watched the little video this scrub posted and it was 24 minutes of him being a coward shoot a mini rail turret in an ADS ( side mounted turret not main turret ) and them him trying to tank and getting them both destroyed . Saw no skill in his tanking except him trying to use triple repers on his tank.
To be honest i think Dust is the most balanced it has ever been. Sure it still need some fine tuning, like fixing cloaking and forge gun blanks but it is very well balanced.
I can say this because i have been playing since week 1 of closed beta and i have gone through some whacked out sh!t in this game, when it comes to being unbalanced.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 22:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:He did get one thing right..... I don't think many tankers are happy with where there tanks are at.
((not saying that they need to be buffed or anything just redesigned, IMO to be fit and operate more like an EVE ship sans the point and click.))
You're 100% right, tankers and ADS flyers are not happy at all, and when it comes to ADS they have every right to be wanting it fixed.
Tankers want their tanks to be a rolling end game where nothing short of a stronger tank can kill them, and to hell with the people who spent weeks and months getting there proto AV gear. What is the point of there being Forge Guns ans Swarm Launchers and AV nades in the game if they are not going to be effective against what they were made for? That is the point that 75% tankers that say tanks need to be buffed do not see, the AV weapons were put in the game so people who don't want to skill into tanks have something they can use against them.
The best part is that if it were only tanks that can destroy other tanks then it comes down to which side gets there maxed out damage rail tank in first, because which ever side does can easily prevent the other team from calling any tanks ot lav or drop ships with their ungodly range.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:07:00 -
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[quote= just got out a match decided to check the forums saw all this BS just so you know I just went 47/1 died because I fell out the drop ship to drop OB and didn't get picked up in time oh well. #GALADSFTW[/quote]
Im talking about the vid you posted where you were in a ads on side turret then jumped out cause was almost dead, called in a maddy with tripe repers, then called in a gunlogi after maddy was destroyed, then you did't bother to spawn in after that since you didn't want to lose anymore tanks.
What is BS is that you started this thread to cry that since FG skills got fixed you need a buff for your tank, and have yet to post anything that is remotely intelligent. All you have done is cry that you can't go on a 50-60 kill rampage anymore, like as if being in a tank is supposed to be GOD MODE and nothing other then a stronger tank should be able even scratch the paint on your tank.
It should not take 6 people to kill a tank, while it take 1 tank to kill 6 people. tanks vs AV is at its best right now and 99% of the community agrees about that.
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843-Vika
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:59:00 -
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GUNDAM HEAVY ARMS01 wrote:843, there's no point to talking to someone like this, you've said almost all the points there is and this guy just wont listen. Hes just another scrub wanna be called "tanker" who goes in other people's dropships cuz he cant fly it himself and too scared to use a light or heavy weapon cuz he sucks at it. Let him cry and reply with stupid reasons that doesnt make any sense because honestly people as stupid as this guy dont have any chances in life.
As i say to yu panda, get some skills cuz yu need it.
You are totally correct, this is now just a flame thread and has no actual meaning other then to show how much of a scrub Panda really is.
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