While this looks like a flame thread at first, a detailed reading leads me to believe it is in fact genuine. This character is from May 2013, and has a realistic corp history including tankers unite. SO lets at least start with a fair reading and response. And Im guessing my posting will summon Taka to the thread, and I apologise in advance for that.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?

Alright before I get down to the basics id like to go on note some people have gotten very sensitive about my topics and have responded with very negative feed back heres what I think in a few short letters I D G A F. KK? good(: I get on here to post my opoioun and read little or no feed make of my posts. why you may ask? because the only people that get on the fourms are to complain about not getting to proto stomp that is really it and what is in the way of them getting to proto stomp 90% of the time oh well you know vechicles :D but anyways enough about you guys now on things that actually matter like THE GAME and NOT YOU :p (no offense to those who actually agree to what I have to say which account for about 20% of you)


ok DEV this is the part I want you to read if you read any of this at all. its my understanding that FG and swarm launcher prof was not working before hotfix bravo (trust me the still hit hard as heck then to) so now that they do work wouldn't you consider that a buff right? :) OHHHH BUT WAIT! tanks get nerfed? what?!?! :O!!! *shock flows through the entire DEV crew* so basicly tanks get nerfed and the very thing to kill tanks gets buffed?!? Now tell me.... whos idea was that now? :p

Now let me give you an example of my ANTI-AV (anti -- anti vehicle) tank before bravo. It had a armor REP rate of 468.00 it was straight invincible against 2 ADV level forge guns with a enhanced HVY damage AMP on them each. I could kill them each time but when you threw 3-4 into the mix (this was all a controlled experiment btw) it got dangerous and tricky for me eventually a crew of 4 ADV lvl forge gunners could take out my best anti AV tank after a minute or two as it should be taking down a tank in a game like dust SHLOULD ALWAYS BE A TEAM EFFORT AND NEVER BE ABLE TO BE DONE SOLO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO YOUR AV as much as people say it us tankers don't have " I win buttons " the are critical mistakes that can be made at a moments notice that can cost us from 200k-500kisk in a heart beat if anyone has it easy mode right now its AV on roof tops as I have said it before. I have 19mil SP in nothing but dropships and tanks and I lose them ALMOST EVERY GAME.

but I personally don't even try to help the milita stand up to you proto pub stompers anymore I just blow up unstall and crap and wait for the game to end. in the end its not tankers who are suffering. its yet again the new players. once I retreat to the redline you put away the proto forge gun and pull out the boundless HMG and go to town on the front lines now don't yah? I used to be able to put those kind of player in line but now I just cant. I really don't know what dev was thinking.

anyways I have an HDPVR on its way in the mail ill have vids up on you tube with in the week. ill actually pay attention to your replys here to see if you guys want any links.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?

Alright before I get down to the basics id like to go on note some people have gotten very sensitive about my topics and have responded with very negative feed back heres what I think in a few short letters I D G A F. KK? good(: I get on here to post my opoioun and read little or no feed make of my posts. why you may ask? because the only people that get on the fourms are to complain about not getting to proto stomp that is really it and what is in the way of them getting to proto stomp 90% of the time oh well you know vechicles :D but anyways enough about you guys now on things that actually matter like THE GAME and NOT YOU :p (no offense to those who actually agree to what I have to say which account for about 20% of you)

Proto tanks can kill almost anything so get proto .

Didn't read, tanker tears delicious.

While this looks like a flame thread at first, a detailed reading leads me to believe it is in fact genuine. This character is from May 2013, and has a realistic corp history including tankers unite. SO lets at least start with a fair reading and response. And Im guessing my posting will summon Taka to the thread, and I apologise in advance for that.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?

While this looks like a flame thread at first, a detailed reading leads me to believe it is in fact genuine. This character is from May 2013, and has a realistic corp history including tankers unite. SO lets at least start with a fair reading and response. And Im guessing my posting will summon Taka to the thread, and I apologise in advance for that.

So you propose that it take 4 people several minutes to kill a tank. In other words the entire enemy team running nothing but dedicated AV to destroy 4 players on your team in tanks, leaving the other 12 to run anti infantry? How does this one point seem realistically fun for all involved?

Judge and I are in complete agreement on this one. It is not balanced, or fun, to require a team to dedicate 1/4 of its manpower to suppressing one individual. No other FPS has a mechanic like that because it creates drastic imbalances between the teams.

I would really like it if players like you were a little less selfish. Any given game element should help make the game more fun for all the players in a given match.

GUESS HOW CAN THIS CAN BE EASILY FIXED???? :D BUY BRINGING IN YOUR OWN TANK!!!!! WAIT WHAT???? XD WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE BEST COUNTER TO A TANK IN THE GAME WOULD BE ANOTHER TANK????? HAHAHAHA like seriously I see none of you bringing in your own tanks into factor its always tanks vs AV never tanks vs tanks or tanks vs AV=tanks I fear a tank with av inside of it more then I fear an entire team of av I mean seriously guys get it together

If it takes team effort to kill you should it also not take a team be you(the tank)?

Because math....

A squad of 6 - 4 AV'ers == 2! (anti-infantry)
Vs.
A squad of 6 - 1 Tanker == 5! ((anti-infantry) + 1 Tank)

Does this seem fair?

Just had a match where 1 tanker vsed 1 militia swarm, 1 advanced swarm and 1 normal forge gun (the normal forge gun being me with 3 complex heavy damage mods). It wasn't even enough to burst him down. Just like you had to spec into tanks some one else had to spec into av and put themselves in considerable danger to go out with only a forge gun and a sidearm to hunt you. They are a huge target for infantry and if they are hitting you from a safe spot it's probably because your near the enemies red line and probably harassing the poor redberries trying to get out like most tanks do.

It's really bad enough most tanks come in and take your MCC spawn points supply depo and installations so that they can red line you without fear. Seriously i know your tanks are expensive but you gotta let the infantry do their thing, you can't just go 20/0 every game. Sometimes the enemy has proto av and you have to realize your not stomping that match. Sometimes they have no av at all and you know you own that game.

You are 1 guy in a tank, if it took 2-3 guys to operate a good tank then i'd be fine with nerfing av again but it already takes 3+ guys if you don't have proto, that's time and effort taken away from hacking objectives and defending points and just because 1 guy on the enemy team decided he wants to drive a tank. Why you feel the need for tanks to be the fcking final boss i will never know but the game is about hacking points not getting the whole team together to stop a tank. Av getting nerfed constantly is what forces people to do the stuff you guys hate such as Jihad jeeps. I know you probably won't agree at all but that's usually the case for tankers who don't step foot outside their tanks for even 1 match to see how it is trying to fight without being in a damn Gundam. Fact is you are the minority and the game should not be molded around you when infantry is the meat of the game.