Word.

+1 in so many ways.

Missiles go faster than the speed of sound. I'd be happy with more speed myself.


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What's wrong, you can't run your own dropship? The really good pilots are flying, killing AV'ers, killing tanks, other dropships by themselves. It seems to make for more boots on the ground winning battles controlling objectives.

You are a sweetheart for wanting to hold hands, but I am old fashioned. Maybe if you wanted to talk first. Baby steps, you know.

Well didn't they used to be constantly demolished by swarms in the past and they had nowhere to run because the range of swarms were like flies to ****?

Swarms are a deterrent on their own. You need to coordinate attacks with other squad members. This game is more about teamwork now as opposed to before, when solo Rambos could carry the whole team on their own.

Again, coordinate attacks. You will essentially need to play volleyball with the ADS. One person firing swarms from the other direction while you have another guy on the other side FG the ADS.

fine buff the speed but know that a rep based gal is still counter tank SLs even with a +50% dmg buff.

i also deserve a respec out of the 17mil sp i dumped into dropships upgrades and turrets if you'll have them renerfed into the ground

Well didn't they used to be constantly demolished by swarms in the past and they had nowhere to run because the range of swarms were like flies to ****?

Swarms are a deterrent on their own. You need to coordinate attacks with other squad members. This game is more about teamwork now as opposed to before, when solo Rambos could carry the whole team on their own.

Again, coordinate attacks. You will essentially need to play volleyball with the ADS. One person firing swarms from the other direction while you have another guy on the other side FG the ADS.

i started flying way before there were ADS.. also the really good pilots and their boys club you seem to be sucking dik to can fuk off..

It's not often I can take out an ADS with swarms 1vs1 but when I do it's because they get very close. The radius on AV nades is also the magnetic range meaning I use sleek nades since I just need to be within 9 meters and it will magnetise and hit the drop ship. Yes, you can throw them straight up and they will hit. If they hit the nose, not sure why, the armor tank ones go out of control a bit. It's relatively funny.

Shoot the Missiles AWAY from the ADS on the first shot and then shoot the swarms while staring at it for the 2nd shot. The idea is to have them hit about the same time. If they relatively close before the second shot then I'll throw nades toward it before shooting the 2nd shot of swarms. Want as much damage as possible at the same time also wrongly referred to is as high Alpha damage. Basically if you get two shots to land at the same time you can fire a third and about 50% of the time it will land and finish off the ADS. This is if you are using proto swarms. A lot of ADS's will take the first swarm hit and keep going for a bit. If you can land two shots at about the same time then they will have been caught off guard.

And yes, they can outrun swarms from close up. 50 meters is a bit far but if they are any closer try sleek nades. Also for fun one time I put RE"s on top of a tower where a normal DS landed to kill me. Jumped off and detonated and killed the DS and the proto cal heavy.

Again, it's VERY rare I've been able to solo an ADS. Maybe 3% of the time. That being said, if any other swarmer is helping it goes to about 20% depending on how good they are and about or even above 50% if a decent forger is helping. Nothing like your swarms landing right after a breach forge lands or vice versa.

No suckin on the first date.

your mom disagrees bro

Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile?

No sh!t.... I can take out a triple rep maddy but not an ads? It's just stupied. They just attack take 2-3 hits and run and till I run out of ammo. A tank can't get away fast enuf 50% of the time even with nitro, but a dropship can? Seagulls take out jets lol.

Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.

Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous.

your mom disagrees bro

Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile?

AV = Anti-Vehicles. ADS goes faster than a swarm and repair faster than it's dps. So, as the swarm is the only reliable weapon against ADS, it needs to be buffed in order to fulfil its role : being Anti-vehicle.

Who flies away from swarms? I chase those bitchs down.

I am and ads pilot, I can take out an ads with milita swarms if I wanted to. Pro tip, don't just lock and shoot as soon as you see it. Dropship pilots are pretty blind.

Op I believe you are an uneducated av player, you like to say your av but you think you should be able to just lock and fire and bring ships down because your av. If you had done your research on dropships and how they operate I am 100% sure you would have no problem fighting an ads. Know thy enemy and such.

Also afterburners, dropships can't out run swarms without them. Consider them pur countermeasures.

*sighs*

Bud, once you get that knock back worked on you can have faster swarms, if you are making them fly away you are doing your job. More often then not I get killed by knock back from AV then actual AV damage.

You try ADSing mate, see how balanced it is.

This is just me spit balling an idea in my head, but what would you think of a slightly lower damage than base (I think we need to look at base swarm damage anyway, so it might be higher than current numbers) swarms that are faster and have more range (maybe different physical impulse, not sure on that one)? Basically a swarm type that's more geared to taking out LAVs and Dropships rather than tanks, or at the very least being more effective at creating a danger zone for them.

This is just me spit balling an idea in my head, but what would you think of a slightly lower damage than base (I think we need to look at base swarm damage anyway, so it might be higher than current numbers) swarms that are faster and have more range (maybe different physical impulse, not sure on that one)? Basically a swarm type that's more geared to taking out LAVs and Dropships rather than tanks, or at the very least being more effective at creating a danger zone for them.

This is just me spit balling an idea in my head, but what would you think of a slightly lower damage than base (I think we need to look at base swarm damage anyway, so it might be higher than current numbers) swarms that are faster and have more range (maybe different physical impulse, not sure on that one)? Basically a swarm type that's more geared to taking out LAVs and Dropships rather than tanks, or at the very least being more effective at creating a danger zone for them.