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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:49:00 -
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Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile?
Lonewolf till I die
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13557
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:50:00 -
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Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu for CPM1
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
338
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:02:00 -
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It's not often I can take out an ADS with swarms 1vs1 but when I do it's because they get very close. The radius on AV nades is also the magnetic range meaning I use sleek nades since I just need to be within 9 meters and it will magnetise and hit the drop ship. Yes, you can throw them straight up and they will hit. If they hit the nose, not sure why, the armor tank ones go out of control a bit. It's relatively funny.
Shoot the Missiles AWAY from the ADS on the first shot and then shoot the swarms while staring at it for the 2nd shot. The idea is to have them hit about the same time. If they relatively close before the second shot then I'll throw nades toward it before shooting the 2nd shot of swarms. Want as much damage as possible at the same time also wrongly referred to is as high Alpha damage. Basically if you get two shots to land at the same time you can fire a third and about 50% of the time it will land and finish off the ADS. This is if you are using proto swarms. A lot of ADS's will take the first swarm hit and keep going for a bit. If you can land two shots at about the same time then they will have been caught off guard.
And yes, they can outrun swarms from close up. 50 meters is a bit far but if they are any closer try sleek nades. Also for fun one time I put RE"s on top of a tower where a normal DS landed to kill me. Jumped off and detonated and killed the DS and the proto cal heavy.
Again, it's VERY rare I've been able to solo an ADS. Maybe 3% of the time. That being said, if any other swarmer is helping it goes to about 20% depending on how good they are and about or even above 50% if a decent forger is helping. Nothing like your swarms landing right after a breach forge lands or vice versa.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
41
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. Ever seen a heavy bomber or fighter jet survive a hit from a missile idiot? That's about as stupied as saying a scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy. Aircraft is lightly armored or it wouldn't fly. And I've hit YOUR ADS with a proto forge gun with 3 damage mods at close range and you still had all your armor and flew away... 3-4 indirect hits from your missile and my heavy is dead? Your a good pilot but that's complete b.s.
Lonewolf till I die
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
44
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:12:00 -
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Maybe heavys should get armor hardeners so I can tank every thing they do for 30 sec and some f'n wings so I can run away as soon as it's depleated. Or I run out of ammo lol.
Lonewolf till I die
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vlad stoich
Heaven's Lost Property
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous.
So by your logic, like only a heavy should be able to like kill a heavy? A scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy?
Sounds like brilliant to me.
Either the troll is strong in this one, or a biased dropship pilot. |
Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:15:00 -
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+100000 HOWDIDHEKILLME.
Please CCP, watch this thread, ADS are even worse than tanks... |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2095
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:15:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile? WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
719
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous.
Don't try and talk sense to these stupid AV'rs, they think they should actually have a purpose, the morons.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
719
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:17:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. So by your logic, like only a heavy should be able to like kill a heavy? A scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy? Sounds like brilliant to me. Either the troll is strong in this one, or a biased dropship pilot.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Because, that's why.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
44
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:19:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. So by your logic, like only a heavy should be able to like kill a heavy? A scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy? Sounds like brilliant to me. Either the troll is strong in this one, or a biased dropship pilot. She/he is a python pilot.
Lonewolf till I die
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:29:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. Don't try and talk sense to these stupid AV'rs, they think they should actually have a purpose, the morons.
AV = Anti-Vehicles. ADS goes faster than a swarm and repair faster than it's dps. So, as the swarm is the only reliable weapon against ADS, it needs to be buffed in order to fulfil its role : being Anti-vehicle. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
44
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:29:00 -
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Sequal Rise wrote:+100000 HOWDIDHEKILLME.
Please CCP, watch this thread, ADS are even worse than tanks... No sh!t.... I can take out a triple rep maddy but not an ads? It's just stupied. They just attack take 2-3 hits and run and till I run out of ammo. A tank can't get away fast enuf 50% of the time even with nitro, but a dropship can? Seagulls take out jets lol.
Lonewolf till I die
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
44
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:33:00 -
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Sequal Rise wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. Don't try and talk sense to these stupid AV'rs, they think they should actually have a purpose, the morons. AV = Anti-Vehicles. ADS goes faster than a swarm and repair faster than it's dps. So, as the swarm is the only reliable weapon against ADS, it needs to be buffed in order to fulfil its role : being Anti-vehicle. I tried a proto swarm and 5 complex dam mods( yeah I know stacking blah blah).... Splash damage from two hits and I was bounced off the building.
Lonewolf till I die
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13558
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:33:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. Ever seen a heavy bomber or fighter jet survive a hit from a missile idiot? That's about as stupied as saying a scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy. Aircraft is lightly armored or it wouldn't fly. And I've hit YOUR ADS with a proto forge gun with 3 damage mods at close range and you still had all your armor and flew away... 3-4 indirect hits from your missile and my heavy is dead? Your a good pilot but that's complete b.s.
I'm joking.
vlad stoich wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. So by your logic, like only a heavy should be able to like kill a heavy? A scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy? Sounds like brilliant to me. Either the troll is strong in this one, or a biased dropship pilot.
I am the very soul of trolling.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:35:00 -
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yea nerf dropships so you can go back to crying about the tanks they are destroying |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13558
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:37:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. So by your logic, like only a heavy should be able to like kill a heavy? A scout shouldn't be able to kill a heavy? Sounds like brilliant to me. Either the troll is strong in this one, or a biased dropship pilot. She/he is a python pilot.
No, I'm not.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu for CPM1
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
44
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:41:00 -
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:yea nerf dropships so you can go back to crying about the tanks they are destroying I like tanks...bomb trucks score me 350 points I get a kill and a suicide. Effective at least against tanks not paying attention.
Lonewolf till I die
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vlad stoich
Heaven's Lost Property
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:42:00 -
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Sequal Rise wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous. Don't try and talk sense to these stupid AV'rs, they think they should actually have a purpose, the morons. AV = Anti-Vehicles. ADS goes faster than a swarm and repair faster than it's dps. So, as the swarm is the only reliable weapon against ADS, it needs to be buffed in order to fulfil its role : being Anti-vehicle.
You are not making any sense either. Swarms shouldn't bring down a properly fit ADS in one volley or even 2 or 3 if the pilot is smart. I do believe they are too fast and should be slightly lessened. The best AV on ADS is Forges or better yet, Rail tanks.
Swarms should have their old ranges given back if ADS maintain there speed boost. |
Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
657
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:42:00 -
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*sighs*
Bud, once you get that knock back worked on you can have faster swarms, if you are making them fly away you are doing your job. More often then not I get killed by knock back from AV then actual AV damage.
You try ADSing mate, see how balanced it is.
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7550
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:43:00 -
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Just to let you know, it takes a little bit of time for an ADS to reach speeds to get away from Swarms. If they constantly got away from your Swarms that fast, then they're using an Afterburner.
Anyway, Swarms are soooo 1.6.
New [self proclaimed] CEO of Fatal Absolution
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vlad stoich
Heaven's Lost Property
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:51:00 -
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:yea nerf dropships so you can go back to crying about the tanks they are destroying
lol another bull$h!t statement. I have only seen a couple pilots dare go after tanks. I would much rather go against a tank with my forge than an ADS. There are some really good pilots, as it requires more skill than tanking.
ADS are more than likely attacking infantry because there are no tanks around to blap them outta the sky.
I think you have been watching too many of Pyrex's Youtube videos.
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1534
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:52:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Why should a dropship die to swarms, they're like, light AV, and dropships are medium air vehicles. Light AV should never be able to kill medium vehicles.
Also, infantry being able to kill vehicles would be ridiculous.
EDIT: To clarify for those people taking this seriously this is not genuinely what I think. This is a joke. Please refrain from going on about how I'm a 'biased dropship pilot'. No worrys, I caught the Taki/Spkr reference lol
To the OP, right now is a dark time for AV. I recommend if you are new to invest in rail tanks. I have well over 30,000,000 SP so I have enough invested in AV to scare most vehicles off at least, but if you are as green as I think you are (and by the look of it you're so green you **** algae, going by you bringing this up over 5 months after this mess started) I highly recommend you leave the infantry-based AVing to the vets until you build up your SP.
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
MAG Vet ~ Raven
R.I.P.~ Dust, R.I.P.~ MAG
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
659
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:56:00 -
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*Shoots militia swarms from Anti-Armor fit at proto fit ADS*
"y u no die?!??11?!"
*Goes on forums and makes post about ADS*
Here we are now.
GÇ£War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:56:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:yea nerf dropships so you can go back to crying about the tanks they are destroying lol another bull$h!t statement. I have only seen a couple pilots dare go after tanks. I would much rather go against a tank with my forge than an ADS. There are some really good pilots, as it requires more skill than tanking. ADS are more than likely attacking infantry because there are no tanks around to blap them outta the sky. I think you have been watching too many of Pyrex's Youtube videos. if you would like me and my gunner to come hold your hand with DS vs a tank we can arrange it.. |
vlad stoich
Heaven's Lost Property
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:58:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:*sighs*
Bud, once you get that knock back worked on you can have faster swarms, if you are making them fly away you are doing your job. More often then not I get killed by knock back from AV then actual AV damage.
You try ADSing mate, see how balanced it is.
If you had ever seen my flying, you would understand how ridiculous it would be for me to even consider ADS. No thanks.
I have seen more pilots crash and burn from the impact from swarms than the damage. I am surprised the Forge gun doesnt do the same. I get a chuckle everytime I see the swarms hit, throws him totally off kilter and into the building or mountains or towers. |
vlad stoich
Heaven's Lost Property
21
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:03:00 -
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:vlad stoich wrote:bhold'the brngr ofLIKE wrote:yea nerf dropships so you can go back to crying about the tanks they are destroying lol another bull$h!t statement. I have only seen a couple pilots dare go after tanks. I would much rather go against a tank with my forge than an ADS. There are some really good pilots, as it requires more skill than tanking. ADS are more than likely attacking infantry because there are no tanks around to blap them outta the sky. I think you have been watching too many of Pyrex's Youtube videos. if you would like me and my gunner to come hold your hand with DS vs a tank we can arrange it..
What's wrong, you can't run your own dropship? The really good pilots are flying, killing AV'ers, killing tanks, other dropships by themselves. It seems to make for more boots on the ground winning battles controlling objectives.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
660
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:04:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile?
I've played against you quite a few times, and your missiles seem fine to me.
Dropships by themselves have an extremely hard time outrunning swarms. However, most pilots use afterburners which are a natural defensive counter to slow moving AV.
If you're too impatient for swarms, may I suggest you try the forge gun or a rail tank...
Preeminent Scrambler Slayer And Python Pilot
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
924
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:08:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Seriously are you fu@king kidding? Make missiles faster or give them back their old damage. ADS are ridiculous. What moron made dropshs faster than a missile?
Word.
+1 in so many ways.
Missiles go faster than the speed of sound. I'd be happy with more speed myself.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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bhold'the brngr ofLIKE
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:17:00 -
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fine buff the speed but know that a rep based gal is still counter tank SLs even with a +50% dmg buff.
i also deserve a respec out of the 17mil sp i dumped into dropships upgrades and turrets if you'll have them renerfed into the ground |
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