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Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:01:00 -
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With modded consoles there must be a virus out there(not that I've ever seen one as I'm not very conversant with the modding scene but the potential is there).
Sony bricked a sizable amount of PS3s with an update not too long ago which required them to wait a week then manually install the fixed update - on a PC the update could have been uninstalled or reverted immediately.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I'm a fan of physical stuff. Buying a game, opening the box, reading the manual, loading the CD, displaying the physical goods and placing them so they can be seen and admired and stuff. Lots of fond memories there. I am very disappointed that all you get now is a disc and a case unless you spend money on the collectors editions. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2388
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:36:00 -
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Here's a good reason:
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Name&sort_order=ASC&category1=998
Take a look at the total number of games available on Steam: 3096 as of the time of this post.
Steam is actually a small minority of the games available on PC, but it does have a lot of modern games.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1934
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:09:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:low genius wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:give me the best sales pitch you've got.
to me, the most important thing is i want to know what games I'll be able to play other than Legion
i've never been a PC gamer. I've been a console gamer for almost 20 years and I never really bothered/had time for PC gaming
i'd also like to know what computer you have, how much it cost, how much you usually spend to upgrade it pc's only excel in one area: multi tasking. i've been playing both pc and console since 1996, and that is the only difference. on a pc you can watch youtube and have 5 windows of eve:online playing at once. the actual 'gaming' part of it is not different at all. This is completely wrong. Not only are there MANY more games available on PC, most of the games you can get on consoles are better on PC because of better graphics and modding - just to name a couple of completely objective differences. It is, of course, possible to play PC games and have the same experience of consoles, but there is much more on offer.
this presupposes that graphics matter, and i think any hardcore gamer will agree that graphics only need to be acceptable. they never need to be mind-blowing, and if the graphics are too good, the game is usually bad.
i know very few people who play more than a game or two regularly. the online-only crowd is the type of crowd who is highly addiction-prone.
if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it.
as you were.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1640
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:15:00 -
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low genius wrote:if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. 1. Entertainment is subjective. 2. No game that is modded ever needs mods. People usually only mod games that they already like.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2389
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:16:00 -
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low genius wrote:Buster Friently wrote:low genius wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:give me the best sales pitch you've got.
to me, the most important thing is i want to know what games I'll be able to play other than Legion
i've never been a PC gamer. I've been a console gamer for almost 20 years and I never really bothered/had time for PC gaming
i'd also like to know what computer you have, how much it cost, how much you usually spend to upgrade it pc's only excel in one area: multi tasking. i've been playing both pc and console since 1996, and that is the only difference. on a pc you can watch youtube and have 5 windows of eve:online playing at once. the actual 'gaming' part of it is not different at all. This is completely wrong. Not only are there MANY more games available on PC, most of the games you can get on consoles are better on PC because of better graphics and modding - just to name a couple of completely objective differences. It is, of course, possible to play PC games and have the same experience of consoles, but there is much more on offer. this presupposes that graphics matter, and i think any hardcore gamer will agree that graphics only need to be acceptable. they never need to be mind-blowing, and if the graphics are too good, the game is usually bad. i know very few people who play more than a game or two regularly. the online-only crowd is the type of crowd who is highly addiction-prone. if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. as you were.
Still completely wrong. Mods add to a game. It doesn't matter if the game was the best in the world prior to modding, mods allow for added content and customization. There simply is no substitute.
Besides better graphics, there are entire genres that really don't exist on console - strategy and simulation for example, but better graphics (all other things being equal) certainly does improve a game.
Dismissed. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
798
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:25:00 -
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low genius wrote:Buster Friently wrote:low genius wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:give me the best sales pitch you've got.
to me, the most important thing is i want to know what games I'll be able to play other than Legion
i've never been a PC gamer. I've been a console gamer for almost 20 years and I never really bothered/had time for PC gaming
i'd also like to know what computer you have, how much it cost, how much you usually spend to upgrade it pc's only excel in one area: multi tasking. i've been playing both pc and console since 1996, and that is the only difference. on a pc you can watch youtube and have 5 windows of eve:online playing at once. the actual 'gaming' part of it is not different at all. This is completely wrong. Not only are there MANY more games available on PC, most of the games you can get on consoles are better on PC because of better graphics and modding - just to name a couple of completely objective differences. It is, of course, possible to play PC games and have the same experience of consoles, but there is much more on offer. this presupposes that graphics matter, and i think any hardcore gamer will agree that graphics only need to be acceptable. they never need to be mind-blowing, and if the graphics are too good, the game is usually bad. i know very few people who play more than a game or two regularly. the online-only crowd is the type of crowd who is highly addiction-prone. if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it.
as you were.
Yeah, yeah, I'm interjecting into a conversation but I can't help myself:
Nobody said anything about games needing to be modded. As was stated, it is an advantage over consoles.
Unless, of course, you don't like free content for great games, from the Elder Scrolls series, to Half Life and other Valve 'Source engine' games, to GTA.... and dozens of others. And that content (which again, is free) has the capacity to extend the life of games by over a DECADE.
And now that I've gotten to think about it, I really should check out the state of some TES:Morrowind mods... Over a decade since it was released and professional quality mods are still being produced, bringing people back for more.
Anyway, don't mind me. I'm mostly typing to myself. |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
146
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:00:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Ender Storm wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Here's my goal for a PC build.
A console will typically cost anywhere between $300 - $600 and last (until a new console is released. my NES still works fine, for example) for anywhere from 4 - 7 years.
Along those lines, I figure for highest cost and shortest longevity, a PC build for $600 that will last reliably for 4 years, playing games on, we'll say, medium graphics. I can't get it to work. Its not like PC's will degrade like fruits and consoles will keep performance. Both will keep performance at the same levels. But while consoles will have to conform to the same level of performance for 4 years, PC's will evolve. So, if ever comes a point when your PC cant anymore play at max, downgrade its settings. It will be equal, if not better, than the games coming out for the console in 4 years. I'm aware PC's don't degrade like fruits, but it gets to the point where you don't want to play a few games on low settings at 20 fps anymore, and then you build a new PC or upgrade if you can. In my case, I have already upgraded my video card. Within a year, I'll likely build a new PC. The build I asked about has a budget of $600 and should be able to play most games at high fps on high to medium settings for about 4 years. Can that be done, or not?
Well, my pc CPU is like, idk, 7 years old (E8400, dual core #3.6ghz). My video card is a GTX 570, it has about 3 years on it.
I still play games at or near max settings.
So yeah, i am pretty sure a good pc today will last far more then 4 years. Especially considering DX11 will be like mantle, bypassing more of the abstraction layer thus providing better performance than the actual one.
I am not sure about price, i am not looking into upgrading right now, but from the top of my head i would take a look at the GTX 770. |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
146
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:06:00 -
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low genius wrote:Buster Friently wrote:low genius wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:give me the best sales pitch you've got.
to me, the most important thing is i want to know what games I'll be able to play other than Legion
i've never been a PC gamer. I've been a console gamer for almost 20 years and I never really bothered/had time for PC gaming
i'd also like to know what computer you have, how much it cost, how much you usually spend to upgrade it pc's only excel in one area: multi tasking. i've been playing both pc and console since 1996, and that is the only difference. on a pc you can watch youtube and have 5 windows of eve:online playing at once. the actual 'gaming' part of it is not different at all. This is completely wrong. Not only are there MANY more games available on PC, most of the games you can get on consoles are better on PC because of better graphics and modding - just to name a couple of completely objective differences. It is, of course, possible to play PC games and have the same experience of consoles, but there is much more on offer. this presupposes that graphics matter, and i think any hardcore gamer will agree that graphics only need to be acceptable. they never need to be mind-blowing, and if the graphics are too good, the game is usually bad. i know very few people who play more than a game or two regularly. the online-only crowd is the type of crowd who is highly addiction-prone. if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. as you were.
As a side note, I only buy Total War games to mod them :) |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1944
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:10:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:low genius wrote:if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. 1. Entertainment is subjective. 2. No game that is modded ever needs mods. People usually only mod games that they already like.
of course it is.
and i agree. i'm sure the guys who make mods are the guys who really like that artistic aspect of their hobby.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
659
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Posted - 2014.05.16 21:32:00 -
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low genius wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:low genius wrote:if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. 1. Entertainment is subjective. 2. No game that is modded ever needs mods. People usually only mod games that they already like. of course it is. and i agree. i'm sure the guys who make mods are the guys who really like that artistic aspect of their hobby. *ahem cough cough splutter*
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:24:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:low genius wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:low genius wrote:if a game needs to be modded, then it wasn't much of a game, now was it. 1. Entertainment is subjective. 2. No game that is modded ever needs mods. People usually only mod games that they already like. of course it is. and i agree. i'm sure the guys who make mods are the guys who really like that artistic aspect of their hobby. *ahem cough cough splutter* Exactly. here are some (IMHO) better examples:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37994/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/topalltime/?adult=0
Now, naturally not all of these will be to a particular user's tastes, but that's precisely the point. With mods you can make a game, any game, better.
As I said earlier, there simply is no substitute.
Just for the record, this is exactly why I play games like Skyrim on the PC and not on any console. They're just better on PC. Objectively so. |
Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2040
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Posted - 2014.05.16 23:07:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:give me the best sales pitch you've got. Look at the Steam Catalogue
There's a TON of awesome, low priced games on Steam, there's TS3, recording software, graphics that are still very much superior to whatever the PS4 can bring to the table.
For me its ultimately the fact that your Legion Character could be your EVE character, already there's some games with Oculus Rift support (If you like that) and the general Utility that PC provides.
Can your PS4 do Microsoft Office? Can your Xbox One play flash games when you don't wanna play Legion?
That's why PC ultimately is better in the long run, PC hardware can be upgraded and upgraded while all in the same case and their hardware I usually worth having for longer then a console cycle (if the stuff is pretty good, Your Geforce 8600 probably isn't going to be able to play many games at minimum for much longer.)
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.05.18 10:08:00 -
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Dr Dammit wrote:One thing I forgot to mention: If you want to play online with a console you need a subscription. $40 for one year on PS, $60 for Xbox live Gold.
Holy crap. I never put two and two together and realized that's an advantage PC gaming has.
Congrats, Doctor. This is the best sales pitch I've had in this entire thread.
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
154
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:33:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Dr Dammit wrote:One thing I forgot to mention: If you want to play online with a console you need a subscription. $40 for one year on PS, $60 for Xbox live Gold. Holy crap. I never put two and two together and realized that's an advantage PC gaming has. Edit: Oh wait. It's only $40 a year. Eh... I think it comes with PS Plus too. That's actually a pretty good deal considering you get a **** ton of games with PS Plus. Double Edit: Since no one has really responded/cares to my Nintendo rant, I'm copy pasta-ing it to the OP.
The caveat with plus is that you really dont own the game, you can only access it while paying plus if i am not mistaken. So its more like a lease than a free game you will have forever. Plus you get what they are willing to give you, not what you necessarily want. So many games have the risk to not be played.
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GerAseR
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:21:00 -
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The thing with PS+ counts only for the monthly (and all time) free games, everything you payed for is yours. I like consoles for the easy starting procedure. I come home, make a coffee, sit on the couch, press the button and that's it. Sometimes the games or the FW gets an update, so this will take a few minutes longer before starting the game.
No need for drivers, and the other stuff you have to deal with. Yes, you have to deal with this anyway, but not that big if you only use it to "work with". The Console is just more comfortable for me. My pc runs a couple of years now with linux what makes things much more comfortable for me too. Maybe i build a Steam OS PC for playin on PC again someday, who knows...
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Kraigen Trek133
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.19 03:09:00 -
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The Reason I would like to see Dust 514 / Project Legion on the pc is the following ..
The last game console I owned was a Sega .. I had to go out and but a second hand PS3 in order to play Dust 514, and once I got the PS3 , I find it very difficult to play. As I never had a PS before I have no idea how to use the controller so just running and looking around is very hard .. But as a pc gamer I play BF4 , Crisis, and other first person shooters with no trouble at all.
Another reason is when happens when Dust 514 goes to PS4 .. now I have to go speed another couple of hundreds of dollars to upgrade to a PS4 .. I have a killer computer now that doesn't need upgrading , so by having the game on the computer the cost to me the player is little to nothing .. I would much rather spend my money on in game items then buying a platform to play it on.
Plus another reason is the quality of the image that comes out of my computer to the screen is much better than what I get out of my PS3 .. even using the Hdmi cable .. I can use the Hdmi cable from my computer the images I very in Eve Online are 1000% times better then the Dust stuff I am looking at.
So here is to the hope that it will be moved over and Project Legion will take off , as from what I have played a Dust 514 so far and all the trouble I have with the PS3 .. I will not be buying a PS4 and should Dust 514 go to PS4 this is one person who will not playing it anymore and instead will just fly around in Eve Online ..
Thanks for reading and see you around .. |
Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
155
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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:19:00 -
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GerAseR wrote:The thing with PS+ counts only for the monthly (and all time) free games, everything you payed for is yours. I like consoles for the easy starting procedure. I come home, make a coffee, sit on the couch, press the button and that's it. Sometimes the games or the FW gets an update, so this will take a few minutes longer before starting the game.
No need for drivers, and the other stuff you have to deal with. Yes, you have to deal with this anyway, but not that big if you only use it to "work with". The Console is just more comfortable for me. My pc runs a couple of years now with linux what makes things much more comfortable for me too. Maybe i build a Steam OS PC for playin on PC again someday, who knows...
Yeah I was thinking about the free ones.
Nowadays drivers are no issue, windows will handle it all for you if you let it.
Even graphic drivers got a lot better with the updating, I dont remember the last time simply updating them gave me trouble. Nvidia itself will keel track of it if you use their Gforce Experience app.
Theoretically, if everything is running smooth, you dont really need to update drivers. |
byte modal
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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:21:00 -
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Hey, I know I'm pretty damn late to the game, but a thought just came to me after reading the OP and a few replies:
For you kats that don't game on PC, do you just have no use for a PC at all? From my humble perspective, I work on my pc. It's a 15" laptop not designed for gaming, but customized enough to handle it. But really, most of my time is spent working. Graphics, photo editing, website development, etc. Gaming is a bonus.
Beyond that, do you not update your mobile phone? Write? Create to-do lists, emails, spreadsheet, surf the web, demo software, build 3dsmax stuff just for the hell of it, edit video for youtube, write HTML, research new car purchases, ebay, etc.?
lol, I know you can do some of this with other devices, but I'm just saying the choice seems arbitrary. For people like me though, who actually have a functional use with the PC, it's a no-brainer. Sure, I could drop some real cash into a dedicated gaming rig, but why? I work on mine. That in and of itself more than makes up for any potential cost balance. Oh, and I have a ps3 too. I'm like a cylon hybrid =\
regardless, all the best of luck coming to your decisions. =)
- me.
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3396
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Posted - 2014.05.19 17:25:00 -
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A PC can
Make you lots of money Play games Watch films Be highly customised from software to hardware Be used to store any data you want Be used to research whatever you want Be used as a phone Last forever with hardware upgrades every few years or more Play the best real time strategy games Do more than all that
A console can
Do less than all that and is much more basic.....................
Consoles are fotm. The games, the people, all flavour of the month. Most of what you said can be applied to PC gaming as well and there's no actual reason why PC gaming takes up more time, it doesn't.
Dust is the only console game that iv played where I'd actually like to meet other fellow gamers in RL but the gf would not be happy about me blowing that much on a road trip across america lol.
I could go Ireland and see my two dust buddies there but I'm British and there's tension because of past bullsht and in probably get gangbed (gang beaten).
Eve Legion FTW!
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GerAseR
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2014.05.19 20:22:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:GerAseR wrote:The thing with PS+ counts only for the monthly (and all time) free games, everything you payed for is yours. I like consoles for the easy starting procedure. I come home, make a coffee, sit on the couch, press the button and that's it. Sometimes the games or the FW gets an update, so this will take a few minutes longer before starting the game.
No need for drivers, and the other stuff you have to deal with. Yes, you have to deal with this anyway, but not that big if you only use it to "work with". The Console is just more comfortable for me. My pc runs a couple of years now with linux what makes things much more comfortable for me too. Maybe i build a Steam OS PC for playin on PC again someday, who knows... Yeah I was thinking about the free ones. Nowadays drivers are no issue, windows will handle it all for you if you let it. Even graphic drivers got a lot better with the updating, I dont remember the last time simply updating them gave me trouble. Nvidia itself will keep track of it if you use their Gforce Experience app. Theoretically, if everything is running smooth, you dont really need to update drivers.
As long as the game can handle the new driver ;)
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
182
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:24:00 -
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CCP Blowout wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:
Speaking of that, I hear Halo 5 will be running at 60 FPS. How well is Legion expected to perform?
61 FPS
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CCP Blowout
C C P C C P Alliance
860
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Posted - 2014.05.21 13:44:00 -
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Thanks, you are too kind.
*tips hat
Part man, part Internet.
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emm kay
Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives
97
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Posted - 2014.05.23 00:57:00 -
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CCP Blowout wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:
Hmm. I guess there are also terms I need to familiarize myself with if I go for a gaming PC. Not sure how Hz affects FPS.
Check this out to explain the difference: http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_7.html is this 2001? We are talking LCDs and Plasmas, Blowout!
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CCP Blowout
C C P C C P Alliance
870
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Posted - 2014.05.23 08:56:00 -
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Hay guys I still play games on PC, how about you?
Part man, part Internet.
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Roran Theron
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:04:00 -
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PC Has most of the games that consoles offer - That's a huge advantage. I have a PS3 and a PC, and Titanfall is the number one hit FPS but was only released for Xbox and PC. So I get to play Titanfall :)
PC gives you many more options and opportunities with games. Usually games that are exclusive for a certain console has a PC version too, so you're not screwed if you have a PS3 and a game comes out for Xbox that you really want. The huge disadvantage to PC gaming is being comfortable. That's right, comfortable. I'd rather sit back on my couch and play a console game with a controlled that be hulk over a computer desk. Even if you have you're little 'battle station' tricked out to be more comfortable, it doesn't beat a couch.
But with that being said - You can fix it. My neighbor built a PC for about $500 and has it hooked to his big screen TV in his living room, and he has a wireless keyboard/mouse so he can sit back on his couch and play. He even has an Xbox controlled that he downloaded a driver for so he can play PC games with a controller. So there you go - A machine that triumphs over both consoles, more gaming options, and the ability to play it in the comfort of your living room :) |
Roran Theron
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:05:00 -
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CCP Blowout wrote:Hay guys I still play games on PC, how about you?
1. Eve Online 2. Titanfall 3. Rift 4. League of Legends 5. DOTA 2 6. Planet Side 2
PC gaming all the way :)
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GerAseR
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2014.05.23 10:13:00 -
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Roran Theron wrote:
PC gives you many more options and opportunities with games. Usually games that are exclusive for a certain console has a PC version too, so you're not screwed if you have a PS3 and a game comes out for Xbox that you really want.
"usually" <- What a joke...
Usually, they are not available for PC, except you are talking about "time-exclusives"
Try to play Uncharted, The Last of Us, Little Big Planet etc. on a PC Or Mario Kart, Zelda and the other Nintendo stuff
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CCP Blowout
C C P C C P Alliance
870
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Posted - 2014.05.23 11:31:00 -
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GerAseR wrote:[quote=Roran Theron]
Try to play Uncharted, The Last of Us, Little Big Planet etc. on a PC Or Mario Kart, Zelda and the other Nintendo stuff
That will be really hard considering they are console exclusives.
Part man, part Internet.
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Roran Theron
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:03:00 -
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GerAseR wrote:Roran Theron wrote:
PC gives you many more options and opportunities with games. Usually games that are exclusive for a certain console has a PC version too, so you're not screwed if you have a PS3 and a game comes out for Xbox that you really want.
"usually" <- What a joke... Usually, they are not available for PC, except you are talking about "time-exclusives" Try to play Uncharted, The Last of Us, Little Big Planet etc. on a PC Or Mario Kart, Zelda and the other Nintendo stuff
Perfect example of how not all games on console transfer over :) But I could easily say the same for hundreds of PC only games. As far as I've seen, the bigger more popular games are both console and PC. I'm pretty sure you have some examples of how I'm wrong, but it's just an example of why a PC is better. |
Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
76
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:35:00 -
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GerAseR wrote:Roran Theron wrote:
PC gives you many more options and opportunities with games. Usually games that are exclusive for a certain console has a PC version too, so you're not screwed if you have a PS3 and a game comes out for Xbox that you really want.
"usually" <- What a joke... Usually, they are not available for PC, except you are talking about "time-exclusives" Try to play Uncharted, The Last of Us, Little Big Planet etc. on a PC Or Mario Kart, Zelda and the other Nintendo stuff
Metal Gear Solid 2-4, Final Fantasy IX - X - XII - XIII, Gran Turismo 1-6 |
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