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TheGoebel
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:30:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:much better, sorry for being crass, i deal with CA/NDAs everyday of my life.
******* blows, but yay inside knowledge?
I've stated it before in this thread. But NDA's are a necessary to get a CPM/CSM thing to work. But now it seems pretty useless to have a CPM, NDA's or not. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:45:00 -
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TheGoebel wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:much better, sorry for being crass, i deal with CA/NDAs everyday of my life.
******* blows, but yay inside knowledge? I've stated it before in this thread. But NDA's are a necessary to get a CPM/CSM thing to work. But now it seems pretty useless to have a CPM, NDA's or not.
I still think a structure like the CPM\CSM is needed. Not especially now or regarding the recent events but generally speaking.
No matter how it ended, it was a pleasant experience and with some solid involvment from the devs, it actually works. Or at least, it doesnt hurt.
He, though forbidden by the Codex, was a Precursor. He tried the Replication of Chromosomes. He led to an Uprising
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:18:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:TheGoebel wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:much better, sorry for being crass, i deal with CA/NDAs everyday of my life.
******* blows, but yay inside knowledge? I've stated it before in this thread. But NDA's are a necessary to get a CPM/CSM thing to work. But now it seems pretty useless to have a CPM, NDA's or not. I still think a structure like the CPM\CSM is needed. Not especially now or regarding the recent events but generally speaking. No matter how it ended, it was a pleasant experience and with some solid involvment from the devs, it actually works. Or at least, it doesnt hurt.
Well if IWS is right about the CPM having the potential for more power in the future, the next time something like this is going to happen, they might be able to pre-empt it and actually do something. Also, for the most part, this CPM has been useful for the community and CCP. I honestly don't believe that CCP would have given up on the concept if everyone had stepped down in response to a stupid decision from the devs, OR if the NDA had been broken for totally valid reasons as I believe they would have been in this case.
I can understand those concerns, and I don't know the devs as well as some of you guys who have met them, but I wouldn't expect them to be that petty about something which I'm sure at least some of them also knew to be a terrible decision. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:22:00 -
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JonnyAugust wrote:Of the players. For the players... Or not.
The audacity to consider their self-importance so great as to throw all loyal Dust fans under the bus and allow us to waste real life money on a game they knew was going to die months before even some Devs knew. Their involvement in the development of this game has been detrimental at best since the beginning as they help sowed the seeds of its demise.
The cancelation of DUST PS3 development is not only CCPs failure but also CPM0s failure. Nova Knife attests that he was so mad when he heard the knews that we all heard at fanfest. So mad he did absolutely nothing to save the friends and fellow players of DUST for months. He coward in the shadows afraid to lose his position of being lap dog to CCP.
It's easy for him to talk a big game now and pretend to side with all of us when in reality he is no better than the developers that threw us under the bus. I find the complete lack of character disgusting, no one had the guts to stand up and say enough is enough or resign to make a point.
They chose to obey rather than represent us. I am more disappointed with the CPM than CCP because I can understand at least that CCP operates as a business for profit reasons. CPM was here to help us, the players and CCP to realize the dream that was DUST514.
Breaking a NDA is not just "breaking al ittle rule of CCp, making lose his position" It's breaking a REAL LAW, with REAL punishement, thousand of $ etcetc... If CCP decide to sue the person. |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:04:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:JonnyAugust wrote:Of the players. For the players... Or not.
The audacity to consider their self-importance so great as to throw all loyal Dust fans under the bus and allow us to waste real life money on a game they knew was going to die months before even some Devs knew. Their involvement in the development of this game has been detrimental at best since the beginning as they help sowed the seeds of its demise.
The cancelation of DUST PS3 development is not only CCPs failure but also CPM0s failure. Nova Knife attests that he was so mad when he heard the knews that we all heard at fanfest. So mad he did absolutely nothing to save the friends and fellow players of DUST for months. He coward in the shadows afraid to lose his position of being lap dog to CCP.
It's easy for him to talk a big game now and pretend to side with all of us when in reality he is no better than the developers that threw us under the bus. I find the complete lack of character disgusting, no one had the guts to stand up and say enough is enough or resign to make a point.
They chose to obey rather than represent us. I am more disappointed with the CPM than CCP because I can understand at least that CCP operates as a business for profit reasons. CPM was here to help us, the players and CCP to realize the dream that was DUST514.
Breaking a NDA is not just "breaking al ittle rule of CCp, making lose his position" It's breaking a REAL LAW, with REAL punishement, thousand of $ etcetc... If CCP decide to sue the person.
How would they know who to sue if you're an unamed source. The media doesn't reveal it sources. CCP would have never found out.
Bottom line they are not needed full resignation from all of them is need ASAP.
One thing to remember the only power we have over CCP is not to purchase Aurum. One the Eve side
It's unsubbing.
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DeeJay One
Commando Perkone
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:19:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:
The media doesn't reveal it sources. CCP would have never found out.
Good joke! You really underestimate CCP's internal affairs division and overestimate "media" morale.
Few words, from even such and underdog as CCP is, to another games company and the media in question is basically done - without access to media events, game previews, etc.
Sadly the same goes for "conventional" media also, but that's not the topic. We have a world of corporations, not "free press" and other ideals - at least not for the mass consumer. |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:30:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:KING SALASI wrote:
The media doesn't reveal it sources. CCP would have never found out.
Good joke! You really underestimate CCP's internal affairs division and overestimate "media" morale. Few words, from even such and underdog as CCP is, to another games company and the media in question is basically done - without access to media events, game previews, etc. Sadly the same goes for "conventional" media also, but that's not the topic. We have a world of corporations, not "free press" and other ideals - at least not for the mass consumer.
Lol it's a video game please NDA's get broken all the time. Easy contact a media source
You would remain ab unnamed source. By stating CCP is planning to do X,Y,Z
To the Dust community again how would CCP know.
CCP is not the NSA, video game leaks happen all the time.
When was the last time you heard someone being sued in
The video game industry over a NDA lol.
Bottom line CPM failed and they all need to resign ASAP. |
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