Then your a ******
Also l2aim
1 weak spot hit and its done

Except you conveniently forgot to mention the other skills involved such as Modules, Proficiency, Weapon Upgrades, and a whole ton of other skills required for that Forge Gun to not be a useless sack of $#!t.

And most importantly, No. If you truly want to be effective to your team, then ask your team to help you by taking care of the AVers. I'm sorry you want to be invulnerable to AV while plunking near OHK missiles at them.

AVer > Dropship > Infantry > AVer

That's a balance of power where everyone has both a strength, and a weakness; all on a 1:1:1 ratio. What seems to be the problem with this model?

Additionally, no the SP required for AV weapons does not need to be increased; you can use your Dropship at anytime, while the AVer can only use his AV when the enemy has vehicles

This ^

Today, I really had to use a Gastun FG with a mate using a Breach FG in order to 3 shots an Incubus (and the last shot was pretty hard to land)

nah i'm just frustrated how one guy with a swarm and keep me off a position , like after one volley, I'll have to bug out of there. I'm not trolling, it's not that he'll kill me, i'm skilled enough to know when to run and when to fight and I kill more than any pilot out there. Ask the public, check the leaderboards. But the fact that one guy can actually disable me from getting into the fray with one swarm launcher? let alone there would be two-three, depending on how much i'm murdering the enemy team . Yet I see people asking for a swarm speed buff ? That's just greedy. Dropships should be able to take more of a punch than that, because 9 times out of 10 there's more than one AV guy on the enemy team. AV should be about teamwork to take out the overall vehicle threat, as in time your shots with your squadmates etc. not free for all random fire and then complain it got away with no health after 1 shot from your forge / swarm. Get a grip.

Dropships in DUST are ass backwards...

They play an offensive role instead of a defensive...

Dropships need significant more survivability and ALOT less DPS potential...

Dropships facilitate fights and highlight one of the cooler aspects of gameplay DUST 514 has... They should be completely about staying power... Not offensive power.

Dropship Pilots also need to be vulnerable to Fire. So someone can shoot them out if they are careless with positioning.

You aren't going to chew through over 5000 HP in one shot, even to the weak spot. Just saying.

Agreed, but we all know the main reason most people go to Assault Dropships is for something to ease them over until fighter jets, which was sort of the reasoning they were even implemented into the game. Honestly dropships should of never had a front mounted pilot operated turret to begin with.

Totally agree with this. They're transports, not dedicated combat vehicles.

Except that the ASSAULT dropship was converted into a combat vehicle, and should have those benefits as such. That's like saying the logistics dropsuit should have never received more than 2-4 equipment slots, and never received the skills to them, as the basic frame only had one. Also, assault suits should never have had a bonus to weapons, as that seems totally ludicrous and overpowered, as the basic frame does not have these benefits.

The Myron and Grimsnes are the basic frames of dropships, without skills or benefits, while the Assault and Logistic dropships are their specializations with their intended roles.

Wrong the grimsnes can be converted into a highly tanked troop transporter with a CRU and afterburner. Sure it doesnt has any gun on it but it can take quite alot of damage and its possible to provide a mobile spawnpoint for your team. I do that sometimes when i run solo on ambush and know that the opposition will spam tanks. I ehlp out with providing the blueberrys a save spot to spawn and just **** of the tankers on the opposition.

You got to be kidding me, with after burners after the first hit you can go straight up and a forge gun wont be able to hit you before the second charge finishes. If you think you are some kind of tank and want to take a couple of hits that is on you.

At best, as a solo forger i can deter a drop ship from stick around any one place for long which is the purpose of AV, with a noob pilot i can damage it enough to get 75 points rarely i am able to kill off a dropship by myself.

1 guy with a handheld weapon should not be able to solo a vehicle like that

1 forger can destroy a dropship in three hits , ask the french. just did a PC match vs them and hunk TM alone hit me every time. I guess you need to just have more experience / SP in it, but he can 3 shot a dropship, it means everyone else has the potential. I'm talking about a Python with over 2500+ shield HP . 1 guy with a handheld weapon should not be able to solo a vehicle like that, and I'm flying fast, gaining altitude, barrel-rolling, etc to avoid these shots but they still CAN 3 shot me which drives me to make threads like this, and wondering why a hand hel mining tool was even added to the game as an anti-vehicle weapon. rails and swarms are enough.