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Mojo XXXIII
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Posted - 2014.04.26 01:21:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII
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Posted - 2014.04.26 01:35:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:They simply don't have enough survivability to go against the likes of a single forgegunner, seeing as their positions are hard to spot and they're smaller targets. They're back to two-three shotting dropships with the hardener nerf. this is total horseshit, if an incubus can dance a jig around my rail hav then they sure as hell can do the moves on a forge gunner The incubus currently takes less damage than the python atm. Its 55/55% damage from swarms that an incubus. Where as the python takes normal damage from swarms 80/120%
...or they could just fly straight up, and there's not a damn thing the swarm launcher could do to either one of them.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:40:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Everyone just assumes i'm talking about a Python or an Incubus! Sure, I fly a Python mostly but I also include the standard variants. I mean, why bother fly a Myron with 3000+ shields if it still can get shot down by one guy with one forge gun, or one guy with a swarm launcher? It's too slow to get away yet its shields still can get dwindled down to zero in one clip by each handheld weapon! outrageous.
Lol@one guy with a swarm launcher!
Maybe if the pilot is a complete scrub rookie, makes no effort to evade, has zero shield rechargers, and the guy with the launcher has a nanohive, a perfectly clear shot, none of the pilot's infantry teammates shooting at him, and all the time in the world then maybe, just maybe, he can rack up a few damage points before the dropship hits a building and blows up (denying the AV both the kill and vehicle destruction points for all his efforts).
I can only assume that you've never actually tried AV yourself, or you'd understand that it is nowhere near as easy as you seem to think it is. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:57:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Everyone just assumes i'm talking about a Python or an Incubus! Sure, I fly a Python mostly but I also include the standard variants. I mean, why bother fly a Myron with 3000+ shields if it still can get shot down by one guy with one forge gun, or one guy with a swarm launcher? It's too slow to get away yet its shields still can get dwindled down to zero in one clip by each handheld weapon! outrageous. Lol@one guy with a swarm launcher! Maybe if the pilot is a complete scrub rookie, makes no effort to evade, has zero shield rechargers, and the guy with the launcher has a nanohive, a perfectly clear shot, none of the pilot's infantry teammates shooting at him, and all the time in the world then maybe, just maybe, he can rack up a few damage points before the dropship hits a building and blows up (denying the AV both the kill and vehicle destruction points for all his efforts). I can only assume that you've never actually tried AV yourself, or you'd understand that it is nowhere near as easy as you seem to think it is. proto forge and swarms, mate.
Then you must be trolling, because you should know how ridiculous your "one guy with a swarm launcher" claim is, mate. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:18:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Everyone just assumes i'm talking about a Python or an Incubus! Sure, I fly a Python mostly but I also include the standard variants. I mean, why bother fly a Myron with 3000+ shields if it still can get shot down by one guy with one forge gun, or one guy with a swarm launcher? It's too slow to get away yet its shields still can get dwindled down to zero in one clip by each handheld weapon! outrageous. Lol@one guy with a swarm launcher! Maybe if the pilot is a complete scrub rookie, makes no effort to evade, has zero shield rechargers, and the guy with the launcher has a nanohive, a perfectly clear shot, none of the pilot's infantry teammates shooting at him, and all the time in the world then maybe, just maybe, he can rack up a few damage points before the dropship hits a building and blows up (denying the AV both the kill and vehicle destruction points for all his efforts). I can only assume that you've never actually tried AV yourself, or you'd understand that it is nowhere near as easy as you seem to think it is. proto forge and swarms, mate. Then you must be trolling, because you should know how ridiculous your "one guy with a swarm launcher" claim is, mate. nah i'm just frustrated how one guy with a swarm and keep me off a position , like after one volley, I'll have to bug out of there. I'm not trolling, it's not that he'll kill me, i'm skilled enough to know when to run and when to fight and I kill more than any pilot out there. Ask the public, check the leaderboards. But the fact that one guy can actually disable me from getting into the fray with one swarm launcher? let alone there would be two-three, depending on how much i'm murdering the enemy team . Yet I see people asking for a swarm speed buff ? That's just greedy. Dropships should be able to take more of a punch than that, because 9 times out of 10 there's more than one AV guy on the enemy team. AV should be about teamwork to take out the overall vehicle threat, as in time your shots with your squadmates etc. not free for all random fire and then complain it got away with no health after 1 shot from your forge / swarm. Get a grip.
When it requires a team, working together, to operate a vehicle, then we'll talk about how many AV it should take to destroy one. As it is now, it's just one guy killing one other guy, the pilot has just chosen a much more expensive loadout, that's all.
For tanks and dropships, the pilot should be restricted to an AV-only weapon. If you want protection from infantry AV, equip a turret and bring a friend to watch your back - teamwork.
IMO, there's no reason, if I choose to spend my SP and ISK for the specific purpose of AV, that I shouldn't be able to kill ONE guy who is using the exact equipment that I am specifically optimized and designed to counter, by using nothing more than skill and outplaying him, like any other matchup in the game. |
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Posted - 2014.04.27 21:56:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:syzygiet wrote:You got to be kidding me, with after burners after the first hit you can go straight up and a forge gun wont be able to hit you before the second charge finishes. If you think you are some kind of tank and want to take a couple of hits that is on you.
At best, as a solo forger i can deter a drop ship from stick around any one place for long which is the purpose of AV, with a noob pilot i can damage it enough to get 75 points rarely i am able to kill off a dropship by myself. 1 forger can destroy a dropship in three hits , ask the french. just did a PC match vs them and hunk TM alone hit me every time. I guess you need to just have more experience / SP in it, but he can 3 shot a dropship, it means everyone else has the potential. I'm talking about a Python with over 2500+ shield HP . 1 guy with a handheld weapon should not be able to solo a vehicle like that, and I'm flying fast, gaining altitude, barrel-rolling, etc to avoid these shots but they still CAN 3 shot me which drives me to make threads like this, and wondering why a hand hel mining tool was even added to the game as an anti-vehicle weapon. rails and swarms are enough.
Did you ever stop to consider that maybe, just maybe he is just better at shooting Dropships than you are at evading?
There's an expression: "A bad workman always blames his tools"
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you're bad, just that you shouldn't blame his weapon if he beat you with superior skill.
And I'm not suggesting it should be EASY for any AV to solo any vehicle, only that it should be POSSIBLE (with player skill ultimately being the determining factor). |
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