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CCP Falcon
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:15:00 -
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Hey guys,
As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014.
While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein.
You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused.
We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries.
Thanks.
CCP Falcon || EVE Community Manager || EVE Illuminati || @CCP_Falcon
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The Attorney General
2567
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:23:00 -
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Dust next?
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2828
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:23:00 -
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nnnnnOOOOOOOooooooo :-( though i understand the dession what is happening with the IP of the title
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3632
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:25:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Dust next?
No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Starfire Revo
DUST University
Ivy League
200
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:26:00 -
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Sucks to hear for those who lost their jobs, although it's a sad reality of the video game industry that this happens on a regular basis.
Do we know how many of the remaining Atlanta team will be working on Dust?
I make videos of EVE and Dust http://www.youtube.com/mrgimbleb
I write about EVE and Dust http://mrgimbleb.blogspot.com
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3927
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:28:00 -
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What was World Of Darkness?
No.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3633
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:29:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:Do we know how many of the remaining Atlanta team will be working on Dust?
Can't go in to specifics, but the team remaining in Atlanta will be working on the games set in the EVE Universe.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
344
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:29:00 -
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http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5951357509_1b0b488c03_m.jpg
>CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!"
THE-TITANS Director and the one-and-only Mr. Contradiction
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3110
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:35:00 -
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welp,
there goes my dreams of becoming a demonic vampire overlord.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Jadd Hatchen
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:37:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks.
Will there be a Kickstarter to restart the WOD online project at a future date? Or will the rights be "sold" to other parties? |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3329
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:38:00 -
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Not suprised
WOD wasnt even working or anything with no revenue being brought in |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3633
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:42:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:
Will there be a Kickstarter to restart the WOD online project at a future date? Or will the rights be "sold" to other parties?
No. CCP believes that Kickstarter / crowdfunding is best for starting projects and not finishing them - so it didn't feel like the right path to take.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2828
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:48:00 -
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So are doing to do a Microsoft and hold onto the ip indenfently or will buying it be an option. Exploring options counts as an answer. A LOT of people where looking forword to this iv got a facebook group im part of allready calling for blood (i dont think their joking either)
If this is not handled correct their could be significant backlash from the wider communty. This is a sad day for gaming
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3633
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:50:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:So are doing to do a Microsoft and hold onto the ip indenfently or will buying it be an option. Exploring options counts as an answer. A LOT of people where looking forword to this iv got a facebook group im part of allready calling for blood (i dont think their joking either)
If this is not handled correct their could be significant backlash from the wider communty. This is a sad day for gaming
This will be looked at over the next few months. The WoD IP is very valuable and nothings been decided at the moment.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
156
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:01:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Do we know how many of the remaining Atlanta team will be working on Dust? Can't go in to specifics, but the team remaining in Atlanta will be working on the games set in the EVE Universe.
Does that mean we will FINALLY get some CCP events in atlanta? |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1970
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:02:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:welp,
there goes my dreams of becoming a demonic vampire overlord.
...and my admittedly far-future dreams of a halloween crossover event where we mercs could head over there and kick vampire ass with silver ion plasmas and hand-engraved Matari silver rounds.
Vampires, pshaw, i face packs of tanked clackers everyday. The horror, the horror.....
I support SP rollover.
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
746
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:09:00 -
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This either bodes really well for Dust, or really badly.
Best of luck to all those developers/artists/programmers/etc who are out on the market. A lot of downsizing has been going on as of late in the games industry.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Sigourney Reever
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
13
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:10:00 -
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Finally! Good move CCP.
It always seemed to me that EVE's Incarna disaster and Dust's missing features (persistent Warbarge?, Missing Vehicles, Game Types, and Assets, as well as general anemic performance) were directly and indirectly based on an over-reach to unify WoD environment design (always quite stunning and requiring nothing but the best in video performance) across all of CCP's properties.
Clearly the scale of the project was too large to deliver in a reasonable time. Further more, It was never going to work and support "reasonable computers" (non-bleeding edge PC's and console platforms), where the bulk of your customers are.
Godspeed, and good luck!.
CCP is (finally) steering off that lee shore.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2828
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:10:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:So are doing to do a Microsoft and hold onto the ip indenfently or will buying it be an option. Exploring options counts as an answer. A LOT of people where looking forword to this iv got a facebook group im part of allready calling for blood (i dont think their joking either)
If this is not handled correct their could be significant backlash from the wider communty. This is a sad day for gaming This will be looked at over the next few months. The WoD IP is very valuable and nothings been decided at the moment.
Fair thank you for answering as honstly as u can i hope somthing can be done with IP to make all partys happy.
Also silver does nothing to vampires. Its sunlight or flame or a crap ton of effort :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3049
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:11:00 -
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I'm sorry for you guys but I'm glad for new Eden.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3049
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:12:00 -
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What you guys have made is great and can be built upon forever, forget all that other tosh.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:13:00 -
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It's certainly unfortunate to the people who lost their jobs but I can't help but feel its a good move on CCP's part to refocus on New Eden as a whole. Here's to the continued expansion of Valkyrie, Dust, and the EVE universe.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
132
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:26:00 -
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There could be a retry in the future, If CCP can make Dust and Valkyrie work for a larger playerbase, there might be enough income. With Dust becoming more and more accessible (via PvE and maybe some other RPG-like features) and EVE integrated.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
2211
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:43:00 -
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So, is it safe to assume that WOD would be the multi-million dollar assets that CCP "derecognized" this last year?
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2068
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:57:00 -
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In a way I'm kind of glad that CCP is narrowing it's focus on developing New Eden, and given what we heard at last year's fanfest I'm not too surprised. Strategically it's clearly the right thing to do. The goings on of New Eden is what gets CCP press, and the more deep / rich that world gets the more impact it can have.
All the same, it's kind of sad to see WoD die on the vine like this. Maybe they'll get a chance to do it further down the road when the New Eden collection of games is more well established and the company has grown some more. If anyone could do that MMO right, I think it would be CCP. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2068
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:58:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:So, is it safe to assume that WOD would be the multi-million dollar assets that CCP "derecognized" this last year?
I would imagine, it's been under development for a very long time. All the time spent on it is now worth nothing. |
Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
2213
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:20:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:I would imagine, it's been under development for a very long time. All the time spent on it is now worth nothing.
I ask because there was quite a lot of gnashing of teeth a few weeks back about the "derecognition" possibly having to do with some part of DUST.
And the guy who blogged about it left nothing but ominous hints and complaints that he was under NDA until CCP announced it themselves.
If this is the big news, I must callously state that I'm a bit relieved... and that this news isn't that big of a surprise after all.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
1926
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:21:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Do we know how many of the remaining Atlanta team will be working on Dust? Can't go in to specifics, but the team remaining in Atlanta will be working on the games set in the EVE Universe.
Walking in Stations, please?
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2830
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:25:00 -
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Dont let the eve guys here u say that last time they tried to blow up a statue :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:58:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Dont let the eve guys here u say that last time they tried to blow up a statue :-P
Not strictly true... We tried to blow up a statue cus ccp wanted to charge stupid prices for character customisations.
Done right (i.e. with an impact on the game at large) walking within eve environments I would find most interesting, be it against NPC's or part of exploration or shooting other players. The reason PVP was never part of the plan was that outside of a starship pod the capsuleer can be killed. But if you clone jump into a different type of clone when you go into your walking clone (with the implant like the dust clones have) theres the get out clause for that.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2178
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:00:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Dust next?
Why should it? Dust is already released and makes at least as much money as it costs.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:12:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
I'm sorry for those guys, but I'm glad the resources and focus will be going into EVE universe fully now. Look at what people are saying about other shooters. Titanfall has some things that DUST doesn't have (yet) but DUST has some things it doesn't have. DUST has found its niche and can now expand--with the right vision and marketing.
All they gotta do is update the graphics, port it to PS4 and PC, put in plenty of PVE, especially PVPVE, fill out the vehicles, heavy weapons, and structures (more Amarr and any Minmatar),and integrate it with EVE. Then they can release it as a kind of "DUST 2" with a new marketing campaign. |
Jin no kami
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
42
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:34:00 -
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Does this mean more people working on moving dust to ps4 don't say yes or no just nod I will sense the nod and be happy =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖÅ |
Youmadbroyolo
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:02:00 -
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And here we see the high water mark of CCP as a company.
Good riddance.
Their development was a perfect example of how not to run a production studio. A classic example of CCP's inefficacy and wastefulness. And the fact the company is posting losses will spur them to cut even more of their ****** excuses for projects. See CCP's financials that where posted a earlier this year.
You might tell me to feel sorry for the staff that lost their jobs, but these staff where enablers to their poor management and direction the project had taken and thus rather then go out fighting just came in every day did the minimum and collected a paycheck.
Dust is the same way. None of the staff goes above and beyond, they are active to the most minimum amount in the community. And they ran a total of 1 or 2 Dev observed games with the playerbase in the entire history of dust.
I could go on but why bother, They are snobs who will give the most PC if excuses for their lackluster performance, some sort of Bs about turning it around or how things will be better in the future. Fanboi's would would never give up on dust no matter what the results where will come to its defense and hopefully Dust will be disbanded after a year or 2 more of floundering around accomplishing little of tangible validity. |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
256
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:03:00 -
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Can CCP confirm or deny now that the huge write-of on R&D in the last financial report was related to WoD not Dust? |
matsumoto yuichi san
Sver true blood
General Tso's Alliance
35
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:09:00 -
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i take it this was the multimillion dollar writedown in the recent financials then. |
Appia Nappia
512
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:17:00 -
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Well. If they hadn't made progress in 8 years, they weren't going to make any more... but 54 people? No wonder nothing was getting done.
I am sad another layoff has happened to CCP Atlanta. Oh well. Really wish the MMO would have worked, I really love White Wolf and all their products.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:22:00 -
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Wait, it was still in development?
After all that time I had thought that it was long dead.
Well, at least there's still tabletop RPGs.
Though it would have been awesome to get various factions added, with different playstyles. I would have loved an in-depth brawling system as a werewolf, with vampires being more on the diplomatic side and Hunters (I personally prefer the paladin style of oWoD) doing coordinated takedowns of high value targets. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1996
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:25:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks.
Will some of those employees that kept their jobs be working on Dust? Will all of those that kept their jobs remain in Atlanta, or will they be moving to China/Iceland?
I ask the second one for a loose timetable that if they're being moved, we'll know how soon they'll be able to start working on EVE/Dust.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
430
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:31:00 -
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I am both sad and happy to hear this. Sad because I know CCP had been working on WOD for a long time and people lost jobs.
But happy that CCP's total focus will now be New Eden.
WOD would have been the only CCP game I wouldn't play. I like scifi games. Vampires and fantasy genres are stupid to me and I'll never play them.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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BrotherofHavok
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
28
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:36:00 -
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+1 like to CCP. Consolidate your resources and really work on the New Eden universe. Hopefully this will result in greater results than what we've become accustomed to.
Sincerely,
Your Multi-purpose Everything User
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
275
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:40:00 -
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Its truly a sad day when 56 employees are let go, and a much loved IP such as WoD will not be getting an MMO is a great disappointment to fans.
But silver lining: I hope this means that CCP will be able to refocus their talent on their flagship Eve online, and Dust514 becomes more than it is.
Looking really forward to fan fest and the vision you guys will put forward for the next year's development of both Eve and Dust. I'm indifferent to anything occulus-rift related, howeverGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
2773
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:13:00 -
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Laser focus Dust to PS4 now!
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
718
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:14:00 -
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Not surprised.
Now just bring dust 514 to Atlanta or rek and we can start getting the game back on track.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
78
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:46:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Dust next?
Why would you say that ? The game isn't that old. -_-
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
1355
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:30:00 -
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Someone in the business side of things over there call up Rockstar and ask them "How would you like to make a kickass open world vampire game?" if they say yes cut a deal. IF not, subcontract out the work to Obsidian, either sell them the IP or figure out some sort of partnership deal.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:59:00 -
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Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson, you have my deepest sympathy regarding the decision you had to make.
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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nakaya indigene
0uter.Heaven
239
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:21:00 -
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so the joke "when WOD comes out" can remain.
The Jove Espier --- YoutubeChannel--> NakaNakaNaka
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
59
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:42:00 -
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56 people let go when making no money for CCP developing WoD
When we could have sent them to fix DUST to be ps4 ready in 3-6 months
Fully functional and streamlined for efficiency
Instead of the seemingly 10 guys we got hiding in a broom closet in Shanghai.
And they would be making CCP money, and then move everyone around again into EvE, Dust and Valk. When Dust is better
And release all the squatters then.
56 people is a big cut for ANY gaming company at one time.
Dust is always on the verge of being a breakout success if only it could have more hands on deck to port it to next gen and smooth out the wrinkles.
Next gen BARELY has any games coming out this year that have replay potential except the few good MMOs
And free to plays are killing it on ps4 (Blacklight, Warframe, all other PlayStation plus free to plays)
Dust is a great game working on a mediocre engine on a 9 year old system with similar tech specs.
That's like working in an office in 2007 and still using Windows 98 programs.
Its just not practical, do the right thing CCP and help yourself with a port.
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
417
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:57:00 -
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I hope this means they can improve on Dust 514 and/or Walking in Stations for EVE.  |
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:08:00 -
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You can read this in any mode you want, troll or not; But I hope all the money thats been spent by players in DUST can now actually go into DUST development and not paychecks for those unfortunate people who got laid off.(Best of luck to all of them)
DUST became nothing but a spiral of pure frustration for me as more and more players were lost, including myself in the bitter end.(tear) So much for spreading the word about DUST. I know for sure that with marketing they could have pulled a bunch of players to the game, but for reasons unknown CCP does not want to market it.
Something extremely special has to be announced at Fanfest.
I hope I am right:
I hope. I cannot hope without true despair. And CCP has surely delivered on that. |
Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1924
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:35:00 -
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does this mean that we will be able to choose vampires as a playable role in eve/dust now?
this game makes me sad....
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
37
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:35:00 -
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Youmadbroyolo wrote:And here we see the high water mark of CCP as a company.
Good riddance.
Their development was a perfect example of how not to run a production studio. A classic example of CCP's inefficacy and wastefulness. And the fact the company is posting losses will spur them to cut even more of their ****** excuses for projects. See CCP's financials that where posted a earlier this year.
You might tell me to feel sorry for the staff that lost their jobs, but these staff where enablers to their poor management and direction the project had taken and thus rather then go out fighting just came in every day did the minimum and collected a paycheck.
Dust is the same way. None of the staff goes above and beyond, they are active to the most minimum amount in the community. And they ran a total of 1 or 2 Dev observed games with the playerbase in the entire history of dust.
I could go on but why bother, They are snobs who will give the most PC if excuses for their lackluster performance, some sort of Bs about turning it around or how things will be better in the future. Fanboi's would would never give up on dust no matter what the results where will come to its defense and hopefully Dust will be disbanded after a year or 2 more of floundering around accomplishing little of tangible validity.
You who are so fierce with words, you with poison coming out of your mouth. You are a scum. You play a game, FOR FREE, and insult the hand that gives you the toy. What a stupid little kid you are. I hope someday, when you give something to someone, that person will just spit at you and destroy what you gave. Then you will remember this post and how what you throw in the air, comes right back at your face.
Amarr Victor
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LittleCuteBunny
418
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:25:00 -
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Good.
1. Carbon engine for ps4
2. Stronger ties with EVE
3. Mobile apps for Dust
If there's some talent from "World of Darkness" moving into EVE universe, it would be interesting knowing who is comming? what was their previous role? what are they going to do in Dust?
Retired.
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C C P
C C P Alliance
260
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:25:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:
You who are so fierce with words, you with poison coming out of your mouth. You are a scum. You play a game, FOR FREE, and insult the hand that gives you the toy. What a stupid little kid you are. I hope someday, when you give something to someone, that person will just spit at you and destroy what you gave. Then you will remember this post and how what you throw in the air, comes right back at your face.
I acknowledge things you said and politically correctly refuse to comment on whether or not they are kick ass and awesome, so I will refrain. |
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Jin no kami
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
44
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
That's ballsy for ccp blowout to co sign Isa Lucifer =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖç |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
838
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Posted - 2014.04.15 03:16:00 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks.
It took balls to admit you'd bitten off more than you could chew.
I hope you will be just as honest about the future of DUST, be it bad or good.
Oh, and while I have your attention, can we get an open market please?
Munch
Minmatar Patriot (Level 7)
Dedicated Sniper
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Supacharjed
Alpha Response Command
56
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Posted - 2014.04.15 04:12:00 -
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Whilst I feel sorry for the loss of jobs of the workers, I must ask this: Does that mean more resources are going to be aimed at Dust/EVE/Valkyrie?
I hate to sound selfish about that.
I really wanted to see what World of Darkness would amount to, CCP is amazing for creating new universes. It would be nice to see them do something outside of EVE.
And to those degenerate ingrates that are celebrating: How would you like it to be sacked after working for ages on something that would be given out to people and may be hailed as the best MMO in existence? How would you like to have that privilege taken from you by no fault of your own? These awesome people that work at CCP work long days and nights to bring you games and all you can do is complain? Take a look in the mirror and don't bite the hand that feeds you.
(Sorry if this sounds like I'm copying Isa)
Diehard Commandbro.
Part Time Ninja Turtle
Full Time Badass.
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
735
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Posted - 2014.04.15 04:40:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
I trust what you say a lot less, after the stunt you pulled last Friday.
o/
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
1412
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Posted - 2014.04.15 04:49:00 -
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While I feel bad for those who lost their jobs, this was clearly the smart business decision. It's a shame it wasn't made earlier. I hope this means DUST will get more development resources. Based on the lack of progress with maps and complexes I think the team could really use some more bodies involved with producing them. We really need one set of maps for each race at a bare minimum, just for completeness sake. If we're going to be fighting on different planet types like Ice, Lava, Ocean, Plasma, Gas etc. and in space stations, wrecks (see link in my sig), possibly even ships, then we're going to need maps with custom complexes on all of them for all races, with a variety of functions. At the current pace this will take several decades to accomplish.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Guiltless D667
17
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Posted - 2014.04.15 04:59:00 -
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Do we get better QA for dust now?
FOR THE HEAVIES!!!
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 05:56:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:
I trust what you say a lot less, after the stunt you pulled last Friday.
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if it's in relation to CCP Falcon's post on Reddit then I'd like to direct you to his message here.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
2234
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Posted - 2014.04.15 06:00:00 -
[63] - Quote
This is great. CCP had too much going on (in relation to number of employees), and the management took the right decision. Wow.
Too bad about people losing their jobs, but hey, that is business as usual these days (unfortunately the employees suffer due to bad management decisions way too often).
Now, blow our minds with awesome new features for Dust 514 at fanfest, and all the bad decisionmaking for the game might be quickly forgotten :) |
TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3050
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Posted - 2014.04.15 08:13:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:So, is it safe to assume that WOD would be the multi-million dollar assets that CCP "derecognized" this last year? I would imagine, it's been under development for a very long time. All the time spent on it is now worth nothing.
But hopefully now the time we have spent in dust will be worth it. Watch the e3 trailer and then log into dust and try not to laugh.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3050
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Besides there's about 100 decent mmorpgs, some of which are over 17 years old. It begs the question, what exactly did they expect when the whole fantasy mmorpg thing is a totally worn out and done clich+¬.
Just look at destiny, there will be nothing amazing or new there, its just going to be a pve heroes wet dream with some re hashed cliche crap BUT with really good graphics.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2832
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Posted - 2014.04.15 09:28:00 -
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And thats what the market wants it might done to death but cod still makes millions every year.
I hope you kept the level designers they had some awsome tools
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Proficiency V.
868
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Posted - 2014.04.15 10:14:00 -
[67] - Quote
I was never interested in this... I'm really happy that CCP will focus on DUST, EVE and Valk.
About Valk, do you guys think it's really gonna launch this year ?
DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR
PvE and P2PM plx
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
347
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Posted - 2014.04.15 10:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
Are you guys able to discuss what it was exactly that you felt WoD wasn't delivering on? How long has the game been in development? What stage did it reach? |
Weznof Nalek
What The French
Red Whines.
40
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:49:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks.
So it is the reason why you make an Event Sp, and you propose Booster omega. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1973
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday.
This being DUST it's hard not to look at developments in a military light. Once again, our commanders have put themselves in a position where they've had to leave soldiers and equipment in the field. Classic overextension, same old tragedy.
I support SP rollover.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:24:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday.
Remember that CCP bought White Wolf entirely.
We will never get new material for the P&P and another game is only possible if CCP gives up the license. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2640
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:26:00 -
[72] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2073
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:33:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday.
Remember that CCP bought White Wolf entirely. We will never get new material for the P&P and another game is only possible if CCP gives up the license.
I don't think this is actually true. Last I read White Wolf still operates as its own company, they just report to CCP every so often with CCP taking a portion of the profits. I would expect P&P material to keep coming. As far as a video game based on White Wolf IP, that depends if CCP wants to sell the rights to that or sit on it until they've developed the broader New Eden experience and grown their company more. They could even simply get another dev shop to build such a game in exchange for a portion of the profits, while retaining ownership of the IP.
White Wolf isn't dead yet. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2073
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:39:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak?
Welcome, you must be new to Earth. You'll find that all corporations are 100% committed to all of their projects right up until the moment they are completed or cancelled. A whiff of uncertainty can cause a project that could potentially fail to actually fail due to employees jumping ship prematurely. In terms of their internal management a corporation owes you no information unless you're a shareholder, and even then your access to information may be limited. |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
3671
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:43:00 -
[75] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything?
The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2640
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything? The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post.
Bad link. Corrected.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2834
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Posted - 2014.04.15 13:23:00 -
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Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position.
Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could.
In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one.
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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ReGnYuM
Dirt Nap Squad.
2752
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Posted - 2014.04.15 13:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything? The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post. Bad link. Corrected. Feb 14, 2014And his clarifying post says he decided to lie bare because they sent people home without telling them they were fired, presumably because HR left early that day? "While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience." - Feb 14, 2014 at 8:30a
Noc you're right this is a PR blunder, but it is not to the proportion you're trying to insist or the dark context in which you place it.
Relax buddy...
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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LittleCuteBunny
419
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:18:00 -
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Does Sony has CCP on a leash with the contract?
Retired.
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
735
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:19:00 -
[80] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:
I trust what you say a lot less, after the stunt you pulled last Friday.
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if it's in relation to CCP Falcon's post on Reddit then I'd like to direct you to his message here.
Indeed. I suspect that regardless of his justifications, Falcon knows he could and should have handled that situation in a more considerate and deft manner than he did, and he'll have to live with the fallout.
The flip side is that trust will have to be earned back. Fanfest is already a touchy time of the year, what with the upcoming event spurring reflection on what was promised at the last Fanfest...
o/
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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
465
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:34:00 -
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But those who worked in WoD,could dev the blood raider faction.DAmm blood suckers
Fck the kdr,i`m going in
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2641
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:40:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position.
Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could.
In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one.
Edit: i was going to redact this statement as noc tone simply hit a nerve, but i will stand by my over message. This communty trying to score fourm cool points over people losing their jobs is sicking.
I simply noc and others understand why im pissed at them.
Yes, I know plenty first hand and second hand about firing and being fired. The way CCP handled it was wholly unprofessional.
You are advocating that I feel more sorry for Falcon for having the "tough job" of damage control than the fired employees who were attacked for "starting rumors" when they were right on the money. Sorry but no way.
The day I care about internet points is the day you have my personal permission to put me down IRL. |
The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:51:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:Does Sony has CCP on a leash with the contract?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2837
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:07:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position.
Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could.
In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one.
Edit: i was going to redact this statement as noc tone simply hit a nerve, but i will stand by my over message. This communty trying to score fourm cool points over people losing their jobs is sicking.
I simply noc and others understand why im pissed at them. Yes, I know plenty first hand and second hand about firing and being fired. The way CCP handled it was wholly unprofessional. You are advocating that I feel more sorry for Falcon for having the "tough job" of damage control than the fired employees who were attacked for "starting rumors" when they were right on the money. Sorry but no way. The day I care about internet points is the day you have my personal permission to put me down IRL.
Please explain how ccp was being unprofessional. I agree the whole WoD situation was mishandled but its not their fault some idiotouted them on reddit.. But they run a business and the final dession was most likely only made days ago. And u dont tell your staff these types as things as it kills moral and might even cause employees ti cut and run when a project could be saved.
And its clear you just dont understand ccp's position. Hope u never have to face the stress of worrying about your job because of roSome idot came up with rubish.
Ccp is going the extra mile by keeping some staff on and helping others find new work in the industry. Other companys have been far harsher.
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Youmadbroyolo
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:13:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:Youmadbroyolo wrote:And here we see the high water mark of CCP as a company.
Good riddance.
Their development was a perfect example of how not to run a production studio. A classic example of CCP's inefficacy and wastefulness. And the fact the company is posting losses will spur them to cut even more of their ****** excuses for projects. See CCP's financials that where posted a earlier this year.
You might tell me to feel sorry for the staff that lost their jobs, but these staff where enablers to their poor management and direction the project had taken and thus rather then go out fighting just came in every day did the minimum and collected a paycheck.
Dust is the same way. None of the staff goes above and beyond, they are active to the most minimum amount in the community. And they ran a total of 1 or 2 Dev observed games with the playerbase in the entire history of dust.
I could go on but why bother, They are snobs who will give the most PC if excuses for their lackluster performance, some sort of Bs about turning it around or how things will be better in the future. Fanboi's would would never give up on dust no matter what the results where will come to its defense and hopefully Dust will be disbanded after a year or 2 more of floundering around accomplishing little of tangible validity. You who are so fierce with words, you with poison coming out of your mouth. You are a scum. You play a game, FOR FREE, and insult the hand that gives you the toy. What a stupid little kid you are. I hope someday, when you give something to someone, that person will just spit at you and destroy what you gave. Then you will remember this post and how what you throw in the air, comes right back at your face.
F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP. Companies driven by their marketing departments who are so greedy that they need systems with no limit on the amount of money they can try to suck from their consumers while providing a substandard experience for all. I hope someday if i chose to support poor leadership who clearly did not have consumer interest in mind with providing best value for the customer that I too was fired and left out in the cold, a deserving fate for turning a blind eye to ethical conscience and a deserving fate for supporting being greedy to the maximum. Funny part is these devs for all there support of such a terrible system run by terrible leaders influence by a no nothing marketing department, receive nothing but scraps from the table and yet are more then willing to grovel to their own bitter demise for a company that will throw them out at a moments notice, regardless of merit or ethic.
If my words wound you so, it is because they have hit their mark and you spend your days toiling and struggling under similar leadership at your own work place or have in the past, for that I feel nothing but pity for you, however your pain is deserved and self inflicted. Your own cowardice lead you down that path and your fear kept you there. |
Severus Smith
Caldari State
505
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:09:00 -
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Youmadbroyolo wrote:F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
274
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:12:00 -
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Free to play means "financed by microtransactions".
For the record, I paid about 10Gé¼ in total for this game by now. This is the price that I normally pay for full PC games.
I guess it's better than free services. Because at least you aren't the product in an F2P game. Well, technically you are the product - A rather sophisticated bot - but everyone else also is, even the paying customers.
Calling free to play free is a blatant lie and absolute idiocy. Nothing is free. If you don't pay, someone else does.
If no one pays, you get open-source GUIs. And I don't think anyone would want to torture themselves like that. |
Youmadbroyolo
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:50:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:Youmadbroyolo wrote:F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8773-Free-To-Wait
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7811-Fee-to-Pay
Dust aint the worst of the bunch but still a hack, a paper thin lie about what could be. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12788
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:37:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:Youmadbroyolo wrote:F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think.
Someone hasn't visited the marketplace recently
My DUST 514 Music Videos
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DAMIOS82
WarRavens Auxiliaries
League of Infamy
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:56:00 -
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Now here is a question; can't parts of WOD be used in Dust 514? No i don't mean the vampires....(allthough...Sansha's Nation..), but surely parts of city's, could be used in dust 514 PVE. I mean some of it should be allready made code and graphic wise, so just use that as a start up or an expansion for PVE here. Then just add some drones and finally we get another mode to play. |
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Jin no kami
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
45
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:56:00 -
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I agree with youmadbro on some of issues I see omega boosters coming back I see different color guns suits etc but we played with horrible issues in this game that took 3 months or to fix some still aren't fix micro transactions drives this and most other f2p games if the people who spent money didn't and the whole community played free the game would either be in one of two places either terminated or enjoying a bustling community 30k or more on dust daily =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖà |
Eko Sol
Strange Playings
159
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Why the hell isn't someone doing something on kickstarter? It's worth a try to save 56 jobs.
My job industry doesn't have the luxury of kickstarter. I would do ANYTHING to keep qualified employees.
Why not a subscription similar to EVE in Dust? Why not SOMETHING? You know, I have my gripes about this game. My friend Krazy Chomper smashed my proto aur suit with his drop ship in FW (BTW, I have to find him logged on again, haven't seen him on lately) but I still play with these guys. I still enjoy this game, especially since I discovered using OP heavies with HMG. That ish is NIIIIICCCCEEEE.
Anyway, I would gladly donate 20 to 200 bucks to keep this game going if I knew that it would cost jobs. I, personally, knew people that were interested in WoD. All of them make plenty of money. They would GLADLY have paid money out of their pockets to see the game come alive. If you have ever personally witnessed a company quit on a project and tell a few dozen people "tough ****, but it's the business" knows that this sucks. What is worse is it was salvageable. It could have been addressed with crowd funding. There are people outside of CCP that would have liked to see the company not fire a bunch of people.
I think this officially says everything there needs to be said about CCP Leadership. They are hacks/jokes that got lucky with Eve and that's where it ended. Until a rectified model is used, I'm not buying Aur again.
I'm just dumbfounded that they could have easily had a 10k people donate 10 bucks and bought 6 months for qualified employees. It could have turned out even better than that and they could have a new game within a year.
EDIT:
My main point is that failure on the leadership chain should not punish the grinders/grunts. Now, if they were mostly terrible at what they did then it couldn't be helped. But given the industry being the way it is right now, I find it hard to believe that those people weren't trying to keep their jobs with some level of work ethic. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1872
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
[93] - Quote
Schadenfreude m*thaf*ckas. What can i say. It's coming for DUST next. So far you guys have proved that you can't do much more than EVE. Now these WoD peeps are being put on EVE? Not DUST, but EVE?
Everybody who knows better saw this coming a mile away.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1872
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:18:00 -
[94] - Quote
Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson, you have my deepest sympathy regarding the decision you had to make.
Lol, things have been getting more and more flubbed with this guy in charge. Can him CCP!
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
Primus Federation
195
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:58:00 -
[95] - Quote
Does this mean the development on dust 514 will be more focused on?
(-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7949
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:18:00 -
[96] - Quote
Correct.
It's Microsoft that's stopping DUST from being on the xbox. Something about control of the servers.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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NINEinch WEAPON
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:42:00 -
[97] - Quote
Blame it on twilight, they made vampire stories shite...
"winning" an inch at a time
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Weznof Nalek
What The French
Red Whines.
44
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks.
Back to reality, I think this is the first time that CCP is honest to his community. I certainly exaggerating but speaking announcement, CCP have told us that last year we should see a NPC mode.
In my opinion, as it will be the "fanfest" is the trading strategy CCP announced again and again things, but their achievement we want.
In the interest of CCP, if our next fanfest, I do not see any documents relating to the NPC mode dust, I begin to think of them as professional liars.
Less ads more results.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:57:00 -
[99] - Quote
NINEinch WEAPON wrote:Blame it on twilight, they made vampire stories shite...
I blame the Twilight haters. They don't want anymore vampires just because of one series of books.
Aren't you depressed by the fact that the Twilight fans have likely grown out of that stuff by now, while you still use every opportunity to rage on it? |
Severus Smith
Caldari State
506
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:52:00 -
[100] - Quote
I understand the micro transaction model in both Free to Wait and Fee to Play.... but do you?
It isn't a "Free to Wait" game like Clash of Clans where not buying Gems makes you progress many times slower in all aspects of the game than paying players. While SP accrual is slower, it is only slower by 50% total if you hit the cap every week. So yes, a paying player will outpace a non paying player SP wise on a 3:2 scale (which is not much at all), but since this is the only area where time is lost as an opportunity cost to not paying, and since SP is hardly the deciding factor in many matches, this doesn't make DUST "Free to Wait".
It also isn't a "Fee to Win" game like Diablo or Hearthstone where paying players gain a huge advantage over non paying players by buying gear or "packs" of random items. The only items that can be bought with AURUM have identical ISK versions available at reasonable prices. No content or gear is behind a paywall, and there aren't AURUM only item packs that may contain super rare officer weapons or something. The only advantage, listed above, is Boosters and those are only a marginal advantage (that will someday be available for ISK through the market, ending their time as AURUM exclusive).
In the end - A person can install DUST, make a character, skill up said character, and access ALL weapons, items, maps, and content without ever paying a cent. So yes. Despite all your protesting DUST is very much a free game (for the individual) and as such you should quit acting so *** **** entitled. |
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Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
110
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:49:00 -
[101] - Quote
Honestly I just want a modest, even tiered subscription scheme with things like an aurum stipend, unlocked passive SP for multiple characters, maybe a few 'freebies' each subscription cycle, in game advantages like market discounts, and lastly nifty-looking militia blueprint suits (just a couple, all vanity, no real advantage unless you're new, you know?). Nothing too fancy or abstract that gives a direct insurmountable combat advantage over free players but something that provides a sensible advantage that I can commit to.
On topic,
Well, honestly, the supernatural market has been over-saturated at this point I'd say. If it had come out, even just 3 years ago? It'd have done factors better than if it came out today or even this year. It's better off as an intellectual property if it bides its time, ferments, and drops with force in three to seven years. That isn't to say that I'm not disappointed, but this is how things go sometimes. It makes sense from CCP's standpoint as a business to focus on their other titles for now and develop their core product(s) rather than stretching themselves out too thinly and making less than fulfilling improvements all around.
EDIT:
Plus there might be more Dust lore this way, which would be neat. |
IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
124
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:47:00 -
[102] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:welp,
there goes my dreams of becoming a demonic vampire overlord.
you!!!!!!!!........ points a finger
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Kasira Vorrikesh
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:37:00 -
[103] - Quote
After having a little while to cool off about this, I feel I can post rationally enough now.
I'm quite disappointed with CCP's failure to complete WoD Online; but then again, I was already getting really tired of the agonizingly slow development process, so this was hardly shocking. What bothers me most is that, regardless of how quickly CCP unloads the WoD rights (assuming they do), fans of that universe won't see another game for, what, 5 more years minimum? So for those who don't know/care, the last game of any kind set in the brilliant, complex, not-remotely-like-Twihard-garbage, World of Darkness, was all the way back in 2004; a decade wait is already pretty painful as it is, but now...
I was always suspicious of how CCP could handle such a project; suspicious because they're relatively small and because EVE is really lacking in the PvE department (going by enjoyment value and story depth, not quantity); WoD was definitely going to need a large amount of PvE content from launch. Not only that, but developing a sound superpowered melee combat system for PvP use is not a task I'd wish upon my worst enemy. So in other words I had little faith in CCP from the start; not because I think they're a bad company (they would have handled the atmosphere, music, and style of WoD very well, I wager), but they simply were never suitable for such an extensive project. That said, I did support CCP over the last few years (with cash, I'm not speaking in euphemisms like "go team!" support) partially because I hoped some of the money would go to WoD development.
Getting to the end, finally. I'm wondering if there's any chance at all of CCP cancelling the WoD Online project, but using its pre-production assets to make a single player game instead. It just seems like such a waste, regardless of how incomplete the game was, to throw it quite literally in the trash. Converting it into a single player game would, I imagine, make it easier to develop even if significantly less profitable (that 2004 game is loved by its fans but was a commercial failure for all intents and purposes). I realize as I'm typing this that it's laughable and would never happen, mindless hope born of desperation, but that's what a ten year wait will do to a person.
For the record, the best company for anything WoD related would have been CDPR, the developers of the Witcher series. Single player experience, not even a hint of multiplayer functionality; the only way to do it properly.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
374
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:10:00 -
[104] - Quote
Some of the WOD tools for developing the environments can they be salvaged to be used in dust? I loved all the state driven building designs and hoped to see that detail be used when creating city maps in dust and ship maps for starship combat missions.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
374
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:23:00 -
[105] - Quote
If some one can find a official CCP link to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRT_CfWoU6o
I would love if some of the people would stop bickering about F2P and that jazz and I would love to hear some of the developers talk about the tools they worked with when creating WOD. Also how and what things can be taken to New Edan, there is plenty of room for station design and a player controlled citly inside the huge stations.
If WOD can add that into our world so we can lhave more areas to explore and find ways to control I'd love it.
Can we get a video on Salvaging WOD? Can we help in some way to highlight the great things all the employees and developers worked hard on while we sat in Darkness? Plenty of time and money went into it I'd love to something good come of it even if it is just a video showing how far it came.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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jadzia idris
Whips N Chains
1
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:08:00 -
[106] - Quote
Suck's to See WoD get The axe... My biggest thing was why on Earth did CCP buy White wolf anyways to just cancel the game.. Fyi those people that are like those 56 devs could have been working on Dust and eve .. Those were Devs from White wolf not CCP...
Honestly Who cares about Dust 514 it already flopped putting it on Ps3 was the worst mistake they made well one of them... Ignoring Eve for 10 years + and now acting like they actually give 2 ***** now is Brilliant Bullshit. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
394
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:08:00 -
[107] - Quote
Sigh... This is why I hate this community. So many people wanted to jump into this thread to spread hate. When I show up wanting to talk about all the great things from WOD and how they can be used in Dust everyone goes home. I need to find a better Dust community because it isn't on these forums.
Thank you WOD team and CCP for all your efforts.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
293
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:12:00 -
[108] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
Man I can't follow **** like this... My IRL does not allow me.
Where is the official statements about this stuff?
I totally believe Legions will replace Dust and this is all a waste of time.?
Please link evidence.. |
Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
69
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:37:00 -
[109] - Quote
That sucks, I would totally have pre-ordered for 200$ or supported a kickstarter'ish thing. No other universe has the mmo potential of WOD. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5316
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:37:00 -
[110] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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The Noob Destroyer
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
687
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:30:00 -
[111] - Quote
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
so what was said about the future of dust?
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
766
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:57:00 -
[112] - Quote
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Tectonic Fusion
1644
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:08:00 -
[113] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
And now?
fuck fuck fuck...
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
806
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:16:00 -
[114] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
I just saw this. No less than 2 weeks before FF you guys were still pushing the product. ******* disgusting.
"CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
965
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:34:00 -
[115] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. I just saw this. No less than 2 weeks before FF you guys were still pushing the product. ******* disgusting.
lol, good find.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
811
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:29:00 -
[116] - Quote
Flyingconejo wrote:bigolenuts wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. I just saw this. No less than 2 weeks before FF you guys were still pushing the product. ******* disgusting. lol, good find. +1
It sickens me Flying and you know I have a pretty tolerant stomach LOL....the misleading and lies. I just don't get it. This coming from a guy who worked for Halliburton on overseas contracts. I thought my heart was black LOL..These guys take it to another level.
"CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
969
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:04:00 -
[117] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:Flyingconejo wrote:bigolenuts wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. I just saw this. No less than 2 weeks before FF you guys were still pushing the product. ******* disgusting. lol, good find. +1 It sickens me Flying and you know I have a pretty tolerant stomach LOL....the misleading and lies. I just don't get it. This coming from a guy who worked for Halliburton on overseas contracts. I thought my heart was black LOL..These guys take it to another level.
That is plainly false advertising, and for me CCP reputation is burned. On the other hand, you know that I've hating about this game and CCP for about a year now, so for me this actually comes as a liberation.
But for the people that was really invested into the game and its community, believed in its potential, and that has supported this game through all its development, this is the lowest blow CCP could deal. They deserved better. I know you were one of those people, so I'm sorry bro. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
891
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Posted - 2014.05.08 02:54:00 -
[118] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
This was bullish!t, wasn't it?
Be honest.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2546
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:43:00 -
[119] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:Dust next?
30 days later...
I blame you
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Kn1qht
Lords Prophets
62
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:03:00 -
[120] - Quote
Dropped it for legion like you did dust aye.
LETS END IT IN GLORY
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2014.05.15 02:51:00 -
[121] - Quote
The fact that Sony gives refunds for 3 months old payments says enough about the scam CCP has ran.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: RND_Jungian
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GerAseR
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2014.05.15 08:23:00 -
[122] - Quote
These 3 Month refunds have nothing to do with CCP.
^^@upsGerAseR
<-> ups-clan.com^^
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2014.05.15 08:39:00 -
[123] - Quote
GerAseR wrote:These 3 Month refunds have nothing to do with CCP.
Yea absolutely nothing. Its not like people felt ripped off by them for the past 6 months anyway.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: RND_Jungian
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4641
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:03:00 -
[124] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest.
Wish I'd have noticed this blatant lie earlier.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5371
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Posted - 2014.06.15 06:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Wish I'd have noticed this blatant lie earlier.
It was EXTREMELY blatant.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
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