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Isa Lucifer wrote:

Youmadbroyolo wrote:

And here we see the high water mark of CCP as a company.

Good riddance.

Their development was a perfect example of how not to run a production studio. A classic example of CCP's inefficacy and wastefulness. And the fact the company is posting losses will spur them to cut even more of their ****** excuses for projects. See CCP's financials that where posted a earlier this year.

You might tell me to feel sorry for the staff that lost their jobs, but these staff where enablers to their poor management and direction the project had taken and thus rather then go out fighting just came in every day did the minimum and collected a paycheck.

Dust is the same way. None of the staff goes above and beyond, they are active to the most minimum amount in the community. And they ran a total of 1 or 2 Dev observed games with the playerbase in the entire history of dust.

I could go on but why bother, They are snobs who will give the most PC if excuses for their lackluster performance, some sort of Bs about turning it around or how things will be better in the future. Fanboi's would would never give up on dust no matter what the results where will come to its defense and hopefully Dust will be disbanded after a year or 2 more of floundering around accomplishing little of tangible validity.

You who are so fierce with words, you with poison coming out of your mouth. You are a scum. You play a game, FOR FREE, and insult the hand that gives you the toy. What a stupid little kid you are. I hope someday, when you give something to someone, that person will just spit at you and destroy what you gave. Then you will remember this post and how what you throw in the air, comes right back at your face.

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Guiltless D667 17	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:59:00 - [61] - Quote Do we get better QA for dust now? FOR THE HEAVIES!!!

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3663	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:56:00 - [62] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: I trust what you say a lot less, after the stunt you pulled last Friday. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if it's in relation to CCP Falcon's post on Reddit then I'd like to direct you to his message here. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2234	Posted - 2014.04.15 06:00:00 - [63] - Quote This is great. CCP had too much going on (in relation to number of employees), and the management took the right decision. Wow. Too bad about people losing their jobs, but hey, that is business as usual these days (unfortunately the employees suffer due to bad management decisions way too often). Now, blow our minds with awesome new features for Dust 514 at fanfest, and all the bad decisionmaking for the game might be quickly forgotten :)
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3050	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:13:00 - [64] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: So, is it safe to assume that WOD would be the multi-million dollar assets that CCP "derecognized" this last year? I would imagine, it's been under development for a very long time. All the time spent on it is now worth nothing. But hopefully now the time we have spent in dust will be worth it. Watch the e3 trailer and then log into dust and try not to laugh. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3050	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:17:00 - [65] - Quote Besides there's about 100 decent mmorpgs, some of which are over 17 years old. It begs the question, what exactly did they expect when the whole fantasy mmorpg thing is a totally worn out and done clich+¬. Just look at destiny, there will be nothing amazing or new there, its just going to be a pve heroes wet dream with some re hashed cliche crap BUT with really good graphics. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2832	Posted - 2014.04.15 09:28:00 - [66] - Quote And thats what the market wants it might done to death but cod still makes millions every year. I hope you kept the level designers they had some awsome tools "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 868	Posted - 2014.04.15 10:14:00 - [67] - Quote I was never interested in this... I'm really happy that CCP will focus on DUST, EVE and Valk. About Valk, do you guys think it's really gonna launch this year ? DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR PvE and P2PM plx
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 347	Posted - 2014.04.15 10:33:00 - [68] - Quote Are you guys able to discuss what it was exactly that you felt WoD wasn't delivering on? How long has the game been in development? What stage did it reach?
Weznof Nalek What The French Red Whines. 40	Posted - 2014.04.15 11:49:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, As some of you may already be aware from the press release on www.ccpgames.com, the World of Darkness MMO project has been cancelled, effective today, April 14, 2014. While this is a sad moment for those affected, this puts us in a far stronger position to devote more time and resources to the EVE Universe and our projects therein. You can read the full press release on our website here, and if you want to discuss it, please do so in this thread to keep discussion focused. We'll also be answering questions here as and when we can, so please feel free to ask if you have any queries. Thanks. So it is the reason why you make an Event Sp, and you propose Booster omega.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1973	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:03:00 - [70] - Quote It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday. This being DUST it's hard not to look at developments in a military light. Once again, our commanders have put themselves in a position where they've had to leave soldiers and equipment in the field. Classic overextension, same old tragedy. I support SP rollover.

Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 273	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:24:00 - [71] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday. Remember that CCP bought White Wolf entirely. We will never get new material for the P&P and another game is only possible if CCP gives up the license.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2640	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:26:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak?
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2073	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:33:00 - [73] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: It's sad and perhaps hopeful news. WoD is a beautiful IP, i hope it gets its opportunity to be a living world someday. Remember that CCP bought White Wolf entirely. We will never get new material for the P&P and another game is only possible if CCP gives up the license. I don't think this is actually true. Last I read White Wolf still operates as its own company, they just report to CCP every so often with CCP taking a portion of the profits. I would expect P&P material to keep coming. As far as a video game based on White Wolf IP, that depends if CCP wants to sell the rights to that or sit on it until they've developed the broader New Eden experience and grown their company more. They could even simply get another dev shop to build such a game in exchange for a portion of the profits, while retaining ownership of the IP. White Wolf isn't dead yet.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2073	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:39:00 - [74] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Welcome, you must be new to Earth. You'll find that all corporations are 100% committed to all of their projects right up until the moment they are completed or cancelled. A whiff of uncertainty can cause a project that could potentially fail to actually fail due to employees jumping ship prematurely. In terms of their internal management a corporation owes you no information unless you're a shareholder, and even then your access to information may be limited.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3671	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:43:00 - [75] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything? The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2640	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:48:00 - [76] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything? The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post. Bad link. Corrected. Feb 14, 2014
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2834	Posted - 2014.04.15 13:23:00 - [77] - Quote Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position. Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could. In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2752	Posted - 2014.04.15 13:35:00 - [78] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Dust next? No. We are still fully committed to developing EVE, DUST and Valkyrie. Lots of things will be shown around the games in the EVE Universe come Fanfest. Not even two months ago, CCP was fully committed to World of Darkness. Is CCP functionally incapable of speaking to the community without suffocating on their own double-speak? Edit: Wow, today I learned that CCP can't even keep their word for THREE DAYS. Why even bother saying anything? The article you linked is 2 years and 2 months old - not 2 months. In regards to CCP Falcon's statement, please see his clarifying post. Bad link. Corrected. Feb 14, 2014 And his clarifying post says he decided to lie bare because they sent people home without telling them they were fired, presumably because HR left early that day? "While this was a difficult decision, CCP remains committed to the franchise and our promise to make a compelling, rich and deep World of Darkness experience." - Feb 14, 2014 at 8:30a Noc you're right this is a PR blunder, but it is not to the proportion you're trying to insist or the dark context in which you place it. Relax buddy... The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
LittleCuteBunny 419	Posted - 2014.04.15 14:18:00 - [79] - Quote Does Sony has CCP on a leash with the contract? Retired.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion League of Infamy 735	Posted - 2014.04.15 14:19:00 - [80] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: I trust what you say a lot less, after the stunt you pulled last Friday. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if it's in relation to CCP Falcon's post on Reddit then I'd like to direct you to his message here. Indeed. I suspect that regardless of his justifications, Falcon knows he could and should have handled that situation in a more considerate and deft manner than he did, and he'll have to live with the fallout. The flip side is that trust will have to be earned back. Fanfest is already a touchy time of the year, what with the upcoming event spurring reflection on what was promised at the last Fanfest... o/

Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 465	Posted - 2014.04.15 14:34:00 - [81] - Quote But those who worked in WoD,could dev the blood raider faction.DAmm blood suckers Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2641	Posted - 2014.04.15 14:40:00 - [82] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position. Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could. In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one. Edit: i was going to redact this statement as noc tone simply hit a nerve, but i will stand by my over message. This communty trying to score fourm cool points over people losing their jobs is sicking. I simply noc and others understand why im pissed at them. Yes, I know plenty first hand and second hand about firing and being fired. The way CCP handled it was wholly unprofessional. You are advocating that I feel more sorry for Falcon for having the "tough job" of damage control than the fired employees who were attacked for "starting rumors" when they were right on the money. Sorry but no way. The day I care about internet points is the day you have my personal permission to put me down IRL.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2014.04.15 14:51:00 - [83] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Does Sony has CCP on a leash with the contract? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2837	Posted - 2014.04.15 15:07:00 - [84] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Noc you ever had to fire anyone before because if u cant see why Falcon made that post you clearly have never been put in that position. Stop trying to score fourm points you have not been part of this communty for months and suddenly spring up being all high and mighty. Real people lost their jobs and ccp where trying to deal with it as best they could. In short stop being a Jackass anyone with any ammout of management experice will want to slap you hard for that statement as you just lost my respect for one. Edit: i was going to redact this statement as noc tone simply hit a nerve, but i will stand by my over message. This communty trying to score fourm cool points over people losing their jobs is sicking. I simply noc and others understand why im pissed at them. Yes, I know plenty first hand and second hand about firing and being fired. The way CCP handled it was wholly unprofessional. You are advocating that I feel more sorry for Falcon for having the "tough job" of damage control than the fired employees who were attacked for "starting rumors" when they were right on the money. Sorry but no way. The day I care about internet points is the day you have my personal permission to put me down IRL. Please explain how ccp was being unprofessional. I agree the whole WoD situation was mishandled but its not their fault some idiotouted them on reddit.. But they run a business and the final dession was most likely only made days ago. And u dont tell your staff these types as things as it kills moral and might even cause employees ti cut and run when a project could be saved. And its clear you just dont understand ccp's position. Hope u never have to face the stress of worrying about your job because of roSome idot came up with rubish. Ccp is going the extra mile by keeping some staff on and helping others find new work in the industry. Other companys have been far harsher. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.04.15 15:13:00 - [85] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: And here we see the high water mark of CCP as a company. Good riddance. Their development was a perfect example of how not to run a production studio. A classic example of CCP's inefficacy and wastefulness. And the fact the company is posting losses will spur them to cut even more of their ****** excuses for projects. See CCP's financials that where posted a earlier this year. You might tell me to feel sorry for the staff that lost their jobs, but these staff where enablers to their poor management and direction the project had taken and thus rather then go out fighting just came in every day did the minimum and collected a paycheck. Dust is the same way. None of the staff goes above and beyond, they are active to the most minimum amount in the community. And they ran a total of 1 or 2 Dev observed games with the playerbase in the entire history of dust. I could go on but why bother, They are snobs who will give the most PC if excuses for their lackluster performance, some sort of Bs about turning it around or how things will be better in the future. Fanboi's would would never give up on dust no matter what the results where will come to its defense and hopefully Dust will be disbanded after a year or 2 more of floundering around accomplishing little of tangible validity. You who are so fierce with words, you with poison coming out of your mouth. You are a scum. You play a game, FOR FREE, and insult the hand that gives you the toy. What a stupid little kid you are. I hope someday, when you give something to someone, that person will just spit at you and destroy what you gave. Then you will remember this post and how what you throw in the air, comes right back at your face. F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP. Companies driven by their marketing departments who are so greedy that they need systems with no limit on the amount of money they can try to suck from their consumers while providing a substandard experience for all. I hope someday if i chose to support poor leadership who clearly did not have consumer interest in mind with providing best value for the customer that I too was fired and left out in the cold, a deserving fate for turning a blind eye to ethical conscience and a deserving fate for supporting being greedy to the maximum. Funny part is these devs for all there support of such a terrible system run by terrible leaders influence by a no nothing marketing department, receive nothing but scraps from the table and yet are more then willing to grovel to their own bitter demise for a company that will throw them out at a moments notice, regardless of merit or ethic. If my words wound you so, it is because they have hit their mark and you spend your days toiling and struggling under similar leadership at your own work place or have in the past, for that I feel nothing but pity for you, however your pain is deserved and self inflicted. Your own cowardice lead you down that path and your fear kept you there.
Severus Smith Caldari State 505	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:09:00 - [86] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 274	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:12:00 - [87] - Quote Free to play means "financed by microtransactions". For the record, I paid about 10Gé¼ in total for this game by now. This is the price that I normally pay for full PC games. I guess it's better than free services. Because at least you aren't the product in an F2P game. Well, technically you are the product - A rather sophisticated bot - but everyone else also is, even the paying customers. Calling free to play free is a blatant lie and absolute idiocy. Nothing is free. If you don't pay, someone else does. If no one pays, you get open-source GUIs. And I don't think anyone would want to torture themselves like that.
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:50:00 - [88] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8773-Free-To-Wait http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7811-Fee-to-Pay Dust aint the worst of the bunch but still a hack, a paper thin lie about what could be.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12788	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:37:00 - [89] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: F2P ain't free their chief, I would rather pay cash upfront then support the free to wait system f2p has become thanks to companies like CCP... Free to play is FREE. I don't know how you can misunderstand that. But you're just acting entitled and childish so who cares what you think. Someone hasn't visited the marketplace recently My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
DAMIOS82 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 92	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:56:00 - [90] - Quote Now here is a question; can't parts of WOD be used in Dust 514? No i don't mean the vampires....(allthough...Sansha's Nation..), but surely parts of city's, could be used in dust 514 PVE. I mean some of it should be allready made code and graphic wise, so just use that as a start up or an expansion for PVE here. Then just add some drones and finally we get another mode to play.



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