i dont even bother tanking my scout gk.o i mianly use dual enhanced profile damps and 2 enhanced kincats with creodron shotgun/ionpistol. with complex light/sidearm mods. lots of firepower and basically inviasble with 9.55m/s sprint. this is a far better fit in my opinon than putting on plates as i cant clsoe the gap quick enough with the shotgun while useing plates.

Cloak is not OP: From a guy who uses cloaking

Can you please say something intelligent to prove that I m wrong instead of trying to troll?.

It isn't quite accurate to say it is the plates that are OP. Medium frames use armor plates heavily too, and nobody is calling them OP right now. The problem is the ability for a scout to have more tank than some medium frames and commandos. Nerfing plates would just nerf mediums at the same time, leaving us with the same problem.

Maybe scouts should just receive a flat fitting penalty to plates of 20% (or some other number). ie: not affected by skill level. Then they have a choice: max tank, or cloak. The idea that is that you could do a heavily tanked passive scan squad support scout, or be a paper tiger.

It isn't quite accurate to say it is the plates that are OP. Medium frames use armor plates heavily too, and nobody is calling them OP right now. The problem is the ability for a scout to have more tank than some medium frames and commandos. Nerfing plates would just nerf mediums at the same time, leaving us with the same problem.

Maybe scouts should just receive a flat fitting penalty to plates of 20% (or some other number). ie: not affected by skill level. Then they have a choice: max tank, or cloak. The idea that is that you could do a heavily tanked passive scan squad support scout, or be a paper tiger.

I've made valid arguments about cloaking being OP in the past. I would hate to repeat myself, but from a cloaking point-of-view you will defend it because of the astronomical advantages you people have.

I'm not "trolling" just pointing out that we can't believe a guy who says something isn't op if he uses it himself.

You can Fit it how you Fit it.. And I dont think it is OP, but you could Fit it how I did on protofits and it looks really OP. That is why I m not saying that the gal scout is OP, I m saying that armor plates are OP, or better, they are way stronger than shield extenders because of their weight in cpu/pg

I m not just saying "I got killed while cloaked, clearly not OP!!! 11one!!"
I m trying to explain why it isnt OP, why people think it is OP and what is really OP instead.

So putting the blame on something never even considered OP and placing unlikely scenarios as a way to defend cloaking is a way to make people instantly think cloaking is not OP

Unlikely scenarios? Do you Consider team work an Unlikely scenario??? I suddenly know why you Consider cloak so OP

Armor plates.

But first let me explain why the cloak isn't OP.
First of all: it doesn't make you invisible. If You pay attention you can See cloaked scouts when they are moving (you can See them while they stand still but it is harder).

If a cloaked scout wants to kill you he has to come near to you, he can do that in front of you or from behind. If he runs in front of you And You can't see him... Well... You have to be blind! If he approaches you from behind he is doing something he could do without a cloak, the cloak just helps him a bit. You couldnt have seen him anyway even if he was uncloaked.

Second: when I scout 9/10 of my Kills come from players that play all alone on the battlefield. If You are playing all alone in a medium or heavy suits you are doing it wrong. Scouts are supposed to play alone, other suits aren't. You should stick with your team and watch the back of your mates. This Way you can destroy a cloaked scout if he is stupid enough to engage.

3 the cloak isn't given for free. It is heavy. The Basic one occupies 40 cpu and 9 pg, the adv 58 cpu and 12 pg, the cmplx 82 cpu and 17 pg (on a scout suit with 5 in the skill)
If you want to Fit a cloak you have to give up on something else. In a caldari or a Min scout if you want an adv cloak you better use low pg modules, no nades maybe and a low pg Secondary equipment.

What about Gallente and amarr? Using Basic armor plate to tank they are able to Fit Whatever they want because of the OPNESS of armor plates, they give you a lot of hp and they only uses 10 cpu and 1 pg.

I have fitted a gal scout with: 2 cmplx shield ext 2 Basic armor plates, a cmplx kincat, a cmplx cardiac regulator, boundless combat rifle, ishukone smg, m1 locus nades, adv cloak, allotek nanohives (proto).
It has an Incredible fire power (2 proto weapons and adv nades) a lot of hp (580), tons of stamina and stamina recharge, a good passive scanner and invisibility, it is fast 8.66 speed, an innate armor repair rate of 3 helped by PROTO nanohives!!

The point of the thread is: cloak isn't OP, scouts aren't OP, armor plates are OP!

What do you think?

Yes teamwork. You honestly can't expect cloaking can be easy to predict with or without teamwork. Why? Because most players will be too focused on defending or ACTUAL strategy that a cloaked scout are unpredictable that it's difficult to have just one or a few guys stand around looking for scouts. Even with detector mods you will still have difficulties actually finding the guy. Cloaking from my point-of-view is used as a "Troll" rather than an actual tactic; but most cloaked users are too self centered thinking it's a weak equipment and there are different ways to counter it.
For example. This thread.

It sounds like you are afraid to get hit by the nerf bat

I m not afraid of the nerf Bat it is just that I m Tired of receiving hatemails because I use a scout with cloak (I run a minscout!! How can you Consider it op???).

@Adell I dont know how you play but I dont have to stand around to see things on the battlefield, if the scout approaches you from the back in the Middle of a gun fight what helped him doing so? His cloak or his play Style? Would you be able to see him when he comes from your back, cloaked or not?

I agree that this situation where scouts hp and profile are over the top is problematic. In my opinion making the scout suffer les agility and less speed and more noticeble to scanners while using armor plates would disencourage brick tanking scouts.