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Adell Shinzumakami
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:50:00 -
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Cloak is not OP: From a guy who uses cloaking
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:57:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Cloak is not OP: From a guy who uses cloaking Can you please say something intelligent to prove that I m wrong instead of trying to troll?.
I've made valid arguments about cloaking being OP in the past. I would hate to repeat myself, but from a cloaking point-of-view you will defend it because of the astronomical advantages you people have.
I'm not "trolling" just pointing out that we can't believe a guy who says something isn't op if he uses it himself.
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:08:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Cloak is not OP: From a guy who uses cloaking Can you please say something intelligent to prove that I m wrong instead of trying to troll?. I've made valid arguments about cloaking being OP in the past. I would hate to repeat myself, but from a cloaking point-of-view you will defend it because of the astronomical advantages you people have. I'm not "trolling" just pointing out that we can't believe a guy who says something isn't op if he uses it himself. I m not just saying "I got killed while cloaked, clearly not OP!!! 11one!!" I m trying to explain why it isnt OP, why people think it is OP and what is really OP instead.
So putting the blame on something never even considered OP and placing unlikely scenarios as a way to defend cloaking is a way to make people instantly think cloaking is not OP
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:35:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Unlikely scenarios? Do you Consider team work an Unlikely scenario??? I suddenly know why you Consider cloak so OP
Yes teamwork. You honestly can't expect cloaking can be easy to predict with or without teamwork. Why? Because most players will be too focused on defending or ACTUAL strategy that a cloaked scout are unpredictable that it's difficult to have just one or a few guys stand around looking for scouts. Even with detector mods you will still have difficulties actually finding the guy. Cloaking from my point-of-view is used as a "Troll" rather than an actual tactic; but most cloaked users are too self centered thinking it's a weak equipment and there are different ways to counter it.
For example. This thread.
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:51:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Have a scout, Logi with proper tools or fittings and then problem solved. It's not cloak's fault that players don't know how to play, defend or approach an objective...
"How to play"
I guess there is suppose to be an exact way to play with everyone being open to their own tactics, while cloaking scouts can run freely in close-range space with shotguns near objective? I guess if we spend time forgetting about objective and killing cloaking scouts, they will probably say to themselves "Hey, I think we should stop cloaking"
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Adell Shinzumakami
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:30:00 -
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Revelations 514 wrote:-Long Quote past Ps3 text limit-
Not "QQ" about anything. I point out different counters about the Op's "strategy" to counter cloaking, but most people automatically think I'm getting killed by cloakers everyday.
Most of my post get taken the wrong way by people who I am arguing with (Even posts where I'm making a joke.) Most of my time playing is either driving an LAV or snipping. I rarely have any actual encounters with cloaking scouts. The whole "90% I die" was when I jump in to assist hack or hacking something to give my team an advantage while driving.
I would also like to add I use cloaking in few occasions as a tactical way to get closer to objective rather than use it for kills....
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:42:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Most of my time playing is either driving an LAV or snipping. Only people that play in the Middle of the battlefield can know if cloak is OP... Just saying.
I go by examples and experience. If I was actually in the battlefield you would just be using the "QQ" as an excuse to make yourself seem like you're right.
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:48:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Most of my time playing is either driving an LAV or snipping. Only people that play in the Middle of the battlefield can know if cloak is OP... Just saying. I go by examples and experience. If I was actually in the battlefield you would just be using the "QQ" as an excuse to make yourself seem like you're right. I still have to see a single argument from you. Where do you experience comes from? Cant you see scouts while you are on your taxi?
Sniping. I see cloaked scouts easily rushing towards people and killing a group by themselves while team is distracted. I can vaguely see the blue spots but have difficulties shooting them with a 12" television
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:58:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:This is an argument, but it's hardware related. It's like complaining about your 1999 computer unable to run Eve at all.
I only mentioned my television so they won't question why I don't shoot cloaks if I see them
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