CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.

The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.

Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.

Spend time adding content-

PLAYER MARKET - I have 40 Thales; let me sell them. A S&D system will make it quite obvious to everyone what gear is the best and what is not being used because it is the worst. In this build, I doubt you could sell an Assault mk.0 for more than 20,000 ISK.

PVE - Vastly improved NPE

INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players

Like, those 3 things right there would bring this game to the next level.

@CCP Saberwing - Whatever happens, don't burn out!! We are an unforgiving bunch of jerks. One way or another we will find a way to get under someone's skin because that is what we are good at. Bunch of game nerds with nothing better to do then blame everything on everyone else. This of course, doesn't take away from any of my posts outside of this thread.

The rich are rich be they played the game that existed at the time. Punishing the wealthy for CCP's market design is bad business.

Keep in mind I'm not rich. Rich is megacorp CEOs with billions of isk. I have 300,000,000 which is the average for moderately active PC guys. I'm middle class if anything. If you're poor in Dust, it's BC you're a kdr ***** who refuses to run anything but proto.

Also, a free market will help poor players and non-fotmers. Competition will drive down the prices of everything and unpopular gear will sell for less than it does now. Yes, the rich will get richer, but the poor will end up saving money. Honestly, who cares if one corp has 2000 Thales stockpiled? Not I.

I want an open market to sell the gear I don't need anymore.

Face it, the rich are rich BC we are better than those who are not at playing the entire game.

New guys cry BC they don't have 40mil SP. Next year 80mil won't be uncommon. Then what? You want an SP reset too? It's an RPG; I don't have 45m sp BC I don't want to play this game for 6 hours a day. Maybe 2 hours if my wife ain't around. Do y'all see me crying BC I don't have 6 proto suits? How about crying BC I have millions of isk in cal logi suits and equipment I'll never touch again. I don't care. I got what I paid for. All of you need to play the game that we have or leave; it's what the rest of us did.

One of my main problems isn't that players are "rich" ( equals constant proto in my mind) ... it's that they're EVERYWHERE and in almost every match! Stop slumming it with the rest of us.

I realize top corps remain on top because of the tight squads they run and the tactics they use. It's frustrating, but also cool to see that type of play, even if it's from who is about to kill you. I'm just confused as to why you want to drive your Ferarri down my pothole riddled street in the slums of Molden Heath. I'm forced to be around a bunch of yuppie/rich pricks in my real neighborhood who "do what they want 'cuz they can" over the last few years and I sure don't need to see any more in my fantasy life.

ISK wipe for sure, but a market really means nothing until crafting and recourse managment comes into play.

Oh you poor whiners and your precious first world problems. Boo ******* hoo, this piece of entertainment software hasn't progressed in the way your precious little desires and expectations wish they had. Now let us berate, **** on and belittle these people who are just ordinary people doing their job.

Maybe one day when you've moved out of your parents house, when you go into the real world...the null sec of real life where you get dealt ******/rough/difficult hands--you'll learn just how pathetic it is get so frustrated at a game and so negative and rude to the people who make it.

Enjoy life's high sec while it lasts lil carebears.

CCP, you guys are doing a great job in my books. I know there have been massive internal changes and challenges facing the company that us forum dwellers couldn't possibly understand. 1.8 is an awesome milestone and I personally have full faith in Rouge's ability to turn things around given his pedigree and I look forward to seeing the future direction in a few weeks. Y'all get COVERT's seal of approval.

I see your point, but where else do we go? PC battles are far from constant and FW reward is with LP. Those are useless.

Perhaps if we got rewarded with ISK instead of LP and having a good rating with a certain faction reduced the isk cost of racial items AND we got team deploy AND the rewards for winning were always in the millions.

The balance attempt is successful. Look at the kill feeds. All kinds of weapons grace the screen. Tanks are manageable with the swarm fix. The rail nerf is not that bad...Great solution to the redline. Life is good. Honestly, nice job. Balancing all the aspects of a game this large is not easy. Thank you.

If you have the time, the scanning of mines and REs...where did that come from?

Ultimately, it all stems from people wanting this game to be awesome and fulfilling it's vision, so I'm happy to listen. However, I (and the team) agree that kneejerk reactions aren't the way forward to make that happen, and I assure you that a longer-term plan is in place. Particularly since the arrival of CCP Rouge. He'll be getting on stage at Fanfest and sharing some of that with you and I'll also be around to try and answer some of the questions you may have.

I want to reiterate what I've stated in other posts before...we definitely don't intend to overhype this year and will try to keep things realistic and honest from the get-go.

Assets and ISK are interchangeable, once there is an open market. Will you require an asset wipe as well? How about a complete reset? Wipe everything! Skills, assets, and ISK. Your concern is only relevant in the initial stages of the market. And "rich people getting everything" means their wealth becomes more distributed. Assets will continue to be generated, and the market will stabilize. If it won't, then even an ISK wipe won't.

So, please expand on the motivation for this request, preferably using some real principles of economics. Because from where I am standing (a poor merc in New Eden, but with a IRL degree in economics) this doesn't make sense.

FYI, the rich people have all the thales. I have over 700 officer weapons. Do an isk wipe and you can get them from my biomassed cloan. As for buying more......... I can't lose the ones I have.
Been on the same thale for 6 months.
If they did an isk wipe, they would have to do a FULL reset and refund all my AUR that I've spent instead of isk. NEVER gonna happen.

OBJECTION!

Reducing Railguns from 600m to 300m was about as kneejerk as it gets, Saberwing

CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.

The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.

Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.

Spend time adding content-

PLAYER MARKET - I have 40 Thales; let me sell them. A S&D system will make it quite obvious to everyone what gear is the best and what is not being used because it is the worst. In this build, I doubt you could sell an Assault mk.0 for more than 20,000 ISK.

PVE - Vastly improved NPE

INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players

Like, those 3 things right there would bring this game to the next level.

CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.

The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.

Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.

Spend time adding content-

PLAYER MARKET - I have 40 Thales; let me sell them. A S&D system will make it quite obvious to everyone what gear is the best and what is not being used because it is the worst. In this build, I doubt you could sell an Assault mk.0 for more than 20,000 ISK.

PVE - Vastly improved NPE

INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players

Like, those 3 things right there would bring this game to the next level.

Doing a complete ISK/asset reset will require the approval of CCP's in-house economist who knows what's best for the economy. Considering the nature of an ISK/asset wipe, I have my extreme doubts that would ever happen especially when you have to consider the amount of AUR already spent on this game by many players not just currently but also since the "official" launch of the game back in May 14 of 2013.

I would be up for an asset wipe as well.

Wouldnt bother me one bit

So you think a certzin number of people should have all the rare stuff people sell bpo etc etc just to share some isk that u can make from games running militia fits? Now that doesnt make sense.

Yes, sorry you weren't playing this game early on, you could have been, but you didn't. Many of us spent RL cash for aurum and BPO items. CCP better not think of even touching those items. With us beta vets holding on to these resources that we paid for we will always hold an advantage even if you wiped all the ISK and normal items from our inventory. Life is tough like that kid, invest in the ground floor of something and you make more than someone who hops on the bandwagon later.