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Charlotte O'Dell
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:22:00 -
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CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.
The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.
Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.
Spend time adding content-
PLAYER MARKET - I have 40 Thales; let me sell them.
PVE - Vastly improved NPE
INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players
Like, those 3 things right there would bring this game to the next level.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
4109
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:23:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.
The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.
Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.
Spend time adding content-
PLAYER MARKET PVE
Like, those two things right there would bring this game to the next level.
Preach it Charlotte!
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Defy Gravity
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:23:00 -
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+1
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1272
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:34:00 -
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If CCP has strictly been focused on balance and getting this latest content out I will be vastly disappointed. I had hopes that it was a smallish team doing this stuff while most of the team has been working on the next iteration of Dust worthy a new expansion name and that includes all that stuff. However, I think I hope for too much.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
7868
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:49:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:- INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players
According to the Dust 514 Keynote at Fanfest 2013 (it's posted on CCP Games YouTube channel), this is actually part of the road map. So be confident that this will happen. Just don't expect it in 1.9 although the earlier the better.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3387
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:03:00 -
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Ultimately, it all stems from people wanting this game to be awesome and fulfilling it's vision, so I'm happy to listen. However, I (and the team) agree that kneejerk reactions aren't the way forward to make that happen, and I assure you that a longer-term plan is in place. Particularly since the arrival of CCP Rouge. He'll be getting on stage at Fanfest and sharing some of that with you and I'll also be around to try and answer some of the questions you may have.
I want to reiterate what I've stated in other posts before...we definitely don't intend to overhype this year and will try to keep things realistic and honest from the get-go.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5510
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:12:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Ultimately, it all stems from people wanting this game to be awesome and fulfilling it's vision, so I'm happy to listen. However, I (and the team) agree that kneejerk reactions aren't the way forward to make that happen, and I assure you that a longer-term plan is in place. Particularly since the arrival of CCP Rouge. He'll be getting on stage at Fanfest and sharing some of that with you and I'll also be around to try and answer some of the questions you may have.
I want to reiterate what I've stated in other posts before...we definitely don't intend to overhype this year and will try to keep things realistic and honest from the get-go.
OBJECTION!
Reducing Railguns from 600m to 300m was about as kneejerk as it gets, Saberwing
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12210
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:16:00 -
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Saberwing, would I be correct in thinking that it's misguided to suggest that CCP 'shouldn't balance and should make new content instead' because Wolfman/Remnant can't simply be repurposed to building, say, a new map?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3391
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Saberwing, would I be correct in thinking that it's misguided to suggest that CCP 'shouldn't balance and should make new content instead' because Wolfman/Remnant can't simply be repurposed to building, say, a new map? Well as neither of them are Level Designers...that would be a fairly accurate statement. :)
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Boot Booter
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
422
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:28:00 -
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When that happens it'll finally make this game a true fps mmo.
The sooner the better. |
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
846
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:31:00 -
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PVE should be given the highest priority
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Lucrezia LeGrand
447
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:38:00 -
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as a whiny player, yes, we whine too much. -_-
will you ever forgive us? btw, I think the server is down right now. can't login. I'm not whining. I swear, I'm not. o_O
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
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RKKR
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
899
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:12:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Ultimately, it all stems from people wanting this game to be awesome and fulfilling it's vision, so I'm happy to listen. However, I (and the team) agree that kneejerk reactions aren't the way forward to make that happen, and I assure you that a longer-term plan is in place. Particularly since the arrival of CCP Rouge. He'll be getting on stage at Fanfest and sharing some of that with you and I'll also be around to try and answer some of the questions you may have.
I want to reiterate what I've stated in other posts before...we definitely don't intend to overhype this year and will try to keep things realistic and honest from the get-go.
I know a solution to decrease kneejerk reactions...
Communicate! I don't mean those troll-posts...listening is a bit one-sided...and judging from feedback threads...not really true.
You're welcome. |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
125
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:49:00 -
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when the market is added you know you all will have to isk wipe everybody and all corps to make a even start right loo |
Maximos Forcus
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
8
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:05:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:when the market is added you know you all will have to isk wipe everybody and all corps to make a even start right loo
Why? What does an "even start" mean in this context, anyway? Because you would have to remove all assets as well, to actually achieve that. ISK or assets are the same thing, financially speaking (at least, once there's a market). |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
891
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:39:00 -
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Oh you poor whiners and your precious first world problems. Boo ******* hoo, this piece of entertainment software hasn't progressed in the way your precious little desires and expectations wish they had. Now let us berate, **** on and belittle these people who are just ordinary people doing their job.
Maybe one day when you've moved out of your parents house, when you go into the real world...the null sec of real life where you get dealt ******/rough/difficult hands--you'll learn just how pathetic it is get so frustrated at a game and so negative and rude to the people who make it.
Enjoy life's high sec while it lasts lil carebears.
CCP, you guys are doing a great job in my books. I know there have been massive internal changes and challenges facing the company that us forum dwellers couldn't possibly understand. 1.8 is an awesome milestone and I personally have full faith in Rouge's ability to turn things around given his pedigree and I look forward to seeing the future direction in a few weeks. Y'all get COVERT's seal of approval.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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anaboop
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:48:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:CCP Saberwing, I only pick your name because you recently posted today.
The community is whiny. Like, really whiny.
Don't spend the next few builds balancing for people who won't be happy either way.
Spend time adding content-
PLAYER MARKET - I have 40 Thales; let me sell them. A S&D system will make it quite obvious to everyone what gear is the best and what is not being used because it is the worst. In this build, I doubt you could sell an Assault mk.0 for more than 20,000 ISK.
PVE - Vastly improved NPE
INTEGRATION WITH EVE ECONOMY - Dust gear manufactured in Eve; Eve resources procured [significantly more efficiently] through Dust players
Like, those 3 things right there would bring this game to the next level.
As hated as this idea will be
isk wipe before player market
Otherwise only a number of rich players will grab everything and noone else will have a chance.
Only rich people are going to dislike that too.
In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
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Rhydra L Wong
POISION ROSES Caps and Mercs
12
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:55:00 -
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A few ideas for improving NPE.
Arms Control: My view of New Eden there certain populated areas under govenment/corporation/police(concord) jurisdiction. In these areas Proto weapons and gear should be banned. Like an assault weapons ban IRL. Besides that, think about it, how many prototype supercars do you see driving around public streets IRL?
Choose where you fight: I guess this is happening in PC and somewhat FW, but there is a huge starmap and I should have a choice where and whom I fight. (unless I'm being ambushed). Not ready to go against the hardest of the hard then chill in a higher security area. Also, how do I get around the universe? I'm magically being transported everywhere?
But ya know what, maybe my choices should be limited: Perhaps new players are "employed" by an NPC corp in a more realistic fashion. Does "Lai Dai Protection Services" actually protect anything? Doesn't seem like it. Also, any new job that forces me to purchase my first uniform is not a job I'd be taking. |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
125
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:59:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:when the market is added you know you all will have to isk wipe everybody and all corps to make a even start right loo Why? What does an "even start" mean in this context, anyway? Because you would have to remove all assets as well, to actually achieve that. ISK or assets are the same thing, financially speaking (at least, once there's a market). land lock for one . pc was a mess for months . |
Maximos Forcus
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
8
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:01:00 -
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anaboop wrote: As hated as this idea will be
isk wipe before player market
Otherwise only a number of rich players will grab everything and noone else will have a chance.
Only rich people are going to dislike that too.
Assets and ISK are interchangeable, once there is an open market. Will you require an asset wipe as well? How about a complete reset? Wipe everything! Skills, assets, and ISK. Your concern is only relevant in the initial stages of the market. And "rich people getting everything" means their wealth becomes more distributed. Assets will continue to be generated, and the market will stabilize. If it won't, then even an ISK wipe won't.
So, please expand on the motivation for this request, preferably using some real principles of economics. Because from where I am standing (a poor merc in New Eden, but with a IRL degree in economics) this doesn't make sense. |
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Maximos Forcus
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
8
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:04:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:Maximos Forcus wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:when the market is added you know you all will have to isk wipe everybody and all corps to make a even start right loo Why? What does an "even start" mean in this context, anyway? Because you would have to remove all assets as well, to actually achieve that. ISK or assets are the same thing, financially speaking (at least, once there's a market). land lock for one . pc was a mess for months .
Not been around for long enough to know what this means. Could you explain the situation in more detail, or link to a post that does? |
Rhydra L Wong
POISION ROSES Caps and Mercs
12
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:04:00 -
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I'll expand .... THIS IS A FANTASY UNIVERSE AND A VIDEO GAME
and your remark about rich people grabbing up everything actually spreads recources is ridiculous. Fight your class war somewhere else please. |
Maximos Forcus
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
8
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:07:00 -
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Rhydra L Wong wrote:I'll expand .... THIS IS A FANTASY UNIVERSE AND A VIDEO GAME
and your remark about rich people grabbing up everything actually spreads recources is ridiculous. Fight your class war somewhere else please.
Idiot, **** off. Do you even know what "class war" means? |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
125
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:16:00 -
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dont care if you were a mathematician . this is a GAME where balance is need for growth . so your sayn for the higher corps it was ok to lock districts for 4 months ? never use real life in a online game will make you grey headed fast . isk and items wipe should put the market on good start . pubs and pc would be up and coming from ppl trying to farm . farming is what makes mmos and since i was told this a mmo makes sense a fresh start from a isk , item wipe wouldnt hurt . ccp let it go for far to long and when a market is added it pay for it . you do know there are corps waitn for a market just so they can buy all the officer gear for pc ? few corps are settn on over 200billion . isk wipe all the way . i would take it even when im setn on 215 mil my self |
anaboop
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:21:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:anaboop wrote: As hated as this idea will be
isk wipe before player market
Otherwise only a number of rich players will grab everything and noone else will have a chance.
Only rich people are going to dislike that too.
Assets and ISK are interchangeable, once there is an open market. Will you require an asset wipe as well? How about a complete reset? Wipe everything! Skills, assets, and ISK. Your concern is only relevant in the initial stages of the market. And "rich people getting everything" means their wealth becomes more distributed. Assets will continue to be generated, and the market will stabilize. If it won't, then even an ISK wipe won't. So, please expand on the motivation for this request, preferably using some real principles of economics. Because from where I am standing (a poor merc in New Eden, but with a IRL degree in economics) this doesn't make sense.
I would be up for an asset wipe as well.
Wouldnt bother me one bit
So you think a certzin number of people should have all the rare stuff people sell bpo etc etc just to share some isk that u can make from games running militia fits? Now that doesnt make sense.
In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
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Rhydra L Wong
POISION ROSES Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:23:00 -
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pfft |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:23:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:Maximos Forcus wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:when the market is added you know you all will have to isk wipe everybody and all corps to make a even start right loo Why? What does an "even start" mean in this context, anyway? Because you would have to remove all assets as well, to actually achieve that. ISK or assets are the same thing, financially speaking (at least, once there's a market). land lock for one . pc was a mess for months . Not been around for long enough to know what this means. Could you explain the situation in more detail, or link to a post that does? in pc a corp could lock there land and it couldn't be attacked and you would still get paid from it . knights of the round i think was the frist to find it . and that was in 1.4 . was a very bad glitch that ccp let go for way to long . but hell what do i know , im the dumbest guy on the planet ccp will never take blame for this mess . only hope is ccp rouge if any |
Rhydra L Wong
POISION ROSES Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:26:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:Rhydra L Wong wrote:I'll expand .... THIS IS A FANTASY UNIVERSE AND A VIDEO GAME
and your remark about rich people grabbing up everything actually spreads recources is ridiculous. Fight your class war somewhere else please. Idiot, **** off. Do you even know what "class war" means?
I understand very well it's what the wealthy wage against the "poor" on daily basis and you should save it for the communities you are gentrifying IRL. The reason it won't work is because there is no functioning working class in New Eden to create the wealth for the rest of the universe.
Don't you have a google bus to catch somewhere? |
anaboop
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:28:00 -
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I would gladly give up my I think im on 315 million isk atm, to give all the poor players a better chance, also prices would be set at a reasonable price when it did come out instead of this million billion crap. Rich get richer poor get butt f**ked by bananas thats not on.
In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2293
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:47:00 -
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The rich get richer, the fat get fatter and the poor gets poorer because they keep doing g the same thing that made them that way.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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