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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:32:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:Asking for an ISK and asset reset is the same as asking for a complete restart of the game, as they are the principal element of the game-environment, the "EVE-DUST universe".
Not wiping it will not make the rich richer, nor the poor poorer. It will actually allow the poor to make some ISK out of weapons that will not significantly help them make more ISK or be more than marginally better on the battlefield. This is effectively the same discussion as PRO vs. STD/MLT. Not fun maybe, but part of the game.
If the market domination is beneficial to the "rich few", which is what I gather fro your responses, then a reset will not help "the poor" at all. Corporations will hold districts, making money faster than any corp only running battles. Lone mercs will suffer even more. In the end, it is about the ability to make ISK. So you would need a full reset of everything.
Then, once DUST gets connected to EVE, allowing for player-exchange, do you reset EVE? You think that makes sense?
You must be really new here. This princely element you refer to is SP as far as dust goes, not ISK. An ISK wipe is absolutely necessary due to exploits ongoing for the past 5 months. Asset wipe? Again? No. If you've been here for a while then you've earned a lot, and should keep them. Everyone has the same chance to earn assets, they are a reward for playing a match as intended whether it be PC or pub. The ill gotten ISK gains are what warrant an ISK wipe. Judging from your response you really have no knowledge of new Eden history nor grasp the lack of connection between dust and eve. If there was no ISK wipe, when officer gear or BPO's hit the market, who do you think will monopolize those assets? Please stop condemning solid ideas with ignorance.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:42:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:
Really new is relative, I'm sure. And I disagree with you. It is a lot about ISK. ISK allows you to get proto equipment. It allows you to play the game. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people asking for donations, or there wouldn't be lotteries and other ISK scheme related activities,meta or otherwise. Sure, SP is important too, but not the only relevant thing by far. Rejecting an asset wipe means that you expect the market to only be available for officer's stuff, right? Or do you think that once a wipe would be announced, people wouldn't buy certain suits and weapons, hold on to them until after the reset, and sell them at maybe a 10% loss? Your reset means feck all without an asset reset.
As to your other statements: the roadmap discussions are all about the EVE-DUST connection. Trying to show a deep understanding of this game and not know this seems unlikely, and if it is, you overassessed yourself. Either way, you come up short there. And if there is an issue with ISK gains because of game abuse, address it directly. See also my other post earlier (in response to anaboop).
So much stupid, where to start....ISK does not allow you to get proto gear, SP allows you to get proto gear. ISK allows you to purchase proto gear. Correct me if I'm wrong, but starter fits "allow you to play the game" and cost no ISK.
I do not expect the market to be limited to officer gear? Where did that come from? If people were smart, when an ISK wipe is announced, yes they will stockpile VAST reserves of gear. I'm ok with that, in order to get ISK back, they would still have to sell that gear. If you are familiar with economics, then a simple supply v demand explains that theory. In order to liquidate assets they would have to undercut every other seller on the market. To curb the amount of proto gear you can purchase in bulk, it wouldn't be too hard for CCP to implement a hard cap of all assets at no more than 500 of one item in any given player's inventory. An ISK wipe without an asset wipe is not a "Feck all without an asset reset", simply if you have been here and stockpiled quafe suits/officer weapons/etc...you deserve the opportunity to sell them. You cannot obtain salvage from ill gotten means, if you've been around longer you will have more. They wiped assets for uprising, so it's not like people are stockpiling from day 1 of closed beta. You talk of a road-map like CCP has a pristine track record of delivering ANYTHING they have had on the "road-map" for almost 2 years. As to your, "Trying to show a deep understanding of this game and not know this seems unlikely"...please, open mouth, insert foot. You preach at us like you are aware of the COUNTLESS threads that have been made in regards to the PC DISTRICT LOCKING (AKA Ill gotten ISK gains). And in true CCP fashion, they have remained silent on the issue, putting a band aid on the district locking. With the release of PC 2.0 SoonTM, I fully expect them to issue a statement whether anything will be done about the prior district locking, and the current (speculative) blue donut and Kane somehow abusing his CPM position. Because of the silence of CCP on this issue, it SEEMS they have brushed it under the rug, but without a statement one way or the other, there still seems to be the possibility to rectify the situation. I.E. Ask for an ISK wipe.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:58:00 -
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TrueXer0z wrote:@CCP Saberwing - Whatever happens, don't burn out!! We are an unforgiving bunch of jerks. One way or another we will find a way to get under someone's skin because that is what we are good at. Bunch of game nerds with nothing better to do then blame everything on everyone else. This of course, doesn't take away from any of my posts outside of this thread.
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