And now we see Kains slaves come running to his aid.

How cute.

What is stopping people from fighting back?

as a player who has eve support you should know better. if they open up syndicate (for instance, a region that is 20 jumps away by shortest route) then it will be almost impossible for the same pilots to cover those two regions. it's a logistical nightmare.

balls level 5

Eve support matters not in the current situation. The problem is the concentration of talent in the donut. They have twice the number of A teams necessary to dominate MH. AE and NS could have taken over with all the districts they had BEFORE the donut formed, they just didn't want to have to stop playing their PS4s to do it.

How about ISK level 10000

isk makes no difference. people spend their isk foolishly, and anyone can make isk non stop wearing free suits.

if you want to be rich, run cheap.

...and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly.

isk makes no difference. people spend their isk foolishly, and anyone can make isk non stop wearing free suits.

if you want to be rich, run cheap.

balls level 5

Tell me, what exactly has changed in pub matches since DNS has taken over? ......

NOTHING! doesn't matter who runs PC. Doesn't matter if everyone in PC is fighting instead of blueing up. It doesn't affect pubs in the slightest. So get out of here with your "Unlimited proto stomping" BS! Proto stomping will continue whether there is PC or not.

Also this is New Eden. Aren't Eve players praised for trying to get total dominance?

Common f* cking sense.

Why do half the DNS guys acknowledge that PC is broken and the mechanics for an attack using clone packs are un-useable, then the other half ask why we don't have the "balls" to attack.

I guess you all weren't getting enough attention in the war room so you felt the need to put this this useless thread in general discussion.

I would ask my fellow Tso guys to stop posting in this thread, and I would ask the blue tags why this thread is in GD.

OP, nobody cares THAT much. I'll put in a petition to have them make a PS3 trophy "dust champion". Then you can just check out your trophies and beat off whenever you feel the need to use your giant e-balls.

For the rest of us, we have new toys to play with and complain about. Please STFU while we check out our new stuff.

This is in general discussion because of the posts accusing Kane of using insider knowledge to gain some sort of advantage were in general discussion.

You don't need knowledge of PC 2.0 or whatever hair-brained libel these guys are coming up with to have incentive for us to act as we have.

You aren't going to meta your way out of this. Even if your defamation scheme works, the pieces are already in place.

beta characters will run this game, just like they run eve online. if you think we're not going to work hard to get as many beta characters in our alliance as possible, you're crazy. EVERYONE is trying to get the most talent available under their banner, right? what other choice is there? to let personal feelings get in the way of business?

that's bad business.

eve is serious business.

WTF are we talking about?

Do anyone regardless of who you are or what corp you defend believe that the current PC situation is fun?
Farming isk is that fun? In what way is it fun to make make belive money in a make believe world?
Do you go to your RL friends bragging how mutch isk you have?

I just want to have a good fight and PC atm is a big jawn fest. I don't care if I win or loose I just want to have good fights that last more than 10 min.

You are not in your right mind regardless on what side of the fence you are at to defend the current PC game mechanics.

I have no problem in saying that AE/NYAN/ESCROW and others are the best PC corps out there and I commend you for it.
However if you think things are fine as they are you must be kidding me or maybe I am just daft or something for not understanding your point.

Regards

Wow it really is hilarious how you all are trying to ruin this game! But like most human beings you'll just selfishly think only of yourselves, f*ck up the ecosystem and then move on. So what game are you pricks moving to after Dust dies because no new players come in because of protostomping douchebags with unlimited ISK from PC and all us vets get sick of the same old stale game you are helping to create? So I can avoid playing it

Who said that the mechanics are fine?
If I did, I apologize.
Clone packs obviously don't work as intended. That should be the first change.
It generates too much ISK. Lower that too.
Eve OBs are too powerful, shouldn't get as many per match.

Who said that the mechanics are fine?
If I did, I apologize.
Clone packs obviously don't work as intended. That should be the first change.
It generates too much ISK. Lower that too.
Eve OBs are too powerful, shouldn't get as many per match.

You can put on your big boy pants and have some actual competition or you can continue to sit on the bench watch the varsity team whip the crap out of the JV squad and pat yourself on the back about how good and/or smart you are for being on such an awesome team.

To continue with the sports analogy, leagues have a salary cap to keep things competitive because when one team wins all the time it is bad for everybody in the sport as a whole. Less people watch, less revenue is generated, and if it goes bad enough the league folds.

I think you are missing the point that people are continually making...using your sports analogy...

You guys are like the HUGE schools with the ginormous sports budgets bragging and laughing that the B teams in smaller schools just aren't up to your caliber.

1) It takes time in the specific challenges of PC to get good.
2) It takes isk to play enough times to really learn how to be that good. Pub matches don't train you for it.
3) It takes LOTs of time to get the isk to make that huge investment in your corp. Meanwhile, PC passively prints your that isk.
4) You aren't guaranteed any ROI once you take a district in the current PC environment. You would have to go around 20 days of uncontested clone production to buy back 100 million isk worth of invested clone packs.

I was in a fleet with you a while back when Public Disorder was still a thing. You seemed to be a cool dude.

What is your honest take on PC? Do you like it that so few participate? Do you like it that it's so easy for so few to dominate it? If you still won 90% of your fights, but there was participation from even 20% of the community wouldn't that be more fun?

Do you feel that a Dust corp full of non PC players have the ability to participate in PC with these mechanics? I don't believe that's the case. I don't think we have the tools available for non PC players to navigate the steep learning curve. Even if they were 1v1 highly skilled slayers I don't think the strategies and tactics would click with them by the time they threw in the towel.

I miss the days when Imps and others like them were aholes on the forums, but you could tell they cared about the future of the game.

Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance.

Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand.

Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that?

In all fairness if you're in PC youre most likely a FoTM chasing **** with no gun game.

*Loads Gallente assault rifle and Ion Pistol in his Gallente Assault*

team players/nyian san and AE calling everyone else FOTM chasing carebears?


all credability lost right there.

Dont you mean you just all blued up instead?

Cant call if a fight if you are all hugging each other

because kain runs dns? you guys live in a make believe world.