DUST Search - Stop trying to forum meta your way out of this. YOU lost PC.

Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:

Fiddlestaxp wrote:

Leadfoot10 wrote:

Fiddlestaxp wrote:

Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance.

Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand.

Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that?

Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? Question

I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way.

lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me.

Respectfully....Leadfoot

Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off.

As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week.

FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though.

You just threw out wallet numbers that would take 15-20 average players to equal. When I say average I'm not referring to individual skill either btw.

The last few OSG PC matches (way back) before we walked away from PC we had teams literally throwing protogear into our guns and burning clone packs steadily trying to clone us since they were usually behind on MCC. No tactics other than zerg and out-spend; and I acknowledge that ISK attrition is a very viable strategy. That ways a very expensive venture for us and we are in pretty good shape.

It's hard to imagine an up and coming corp trying to fight their way INTO the PC game without the ISK farm in place and the closed beta vets with 50mil wallets walking around.

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Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:49:00 - [1] - Quote Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that?
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2368	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:50:00 - [2] - Quote It is kinda dumb to think the CPM has some special power to get districts. Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down" Proceeds to run three hardeners. Proud member of RND
Leonid Tybalt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 352	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:51:00 - [3] - Quote Evidently yes. Also the situation you have unfairly reached is rather alienating for the rest of the community. Monopoly is never a good thing.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3095	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:52:00 - [4] - Quote Dont you mean you just all blued up instead? Cant call if a fight if you are all hugging each other Intelligence is OP
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1585	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:53:00 - [5] - Quote team players/nyian san and AE calling everyone else FOTM chasing carebears? all credability lost right there.
Leonid Tybalt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 352	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:54:00 - [6] - Quote Also your district locking abuse is by far the worst isk-farming operation in Dust right now. So it's kinda fun seeing how you condemn others for wanting to farm
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2768	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:56:00 - [7] - Quote Fiddle speaks for himself and does not represent all views within NF :-P "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1585	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:56:00 - [8] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Fiddle speaks for himself and does not represent all views within NF :-P owned
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 374	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:57:00 - [9] - Quote While I am just a nobody and I do agree with you - So many of you guys are just as carebear. Banding up together so no one may question your indomitable might. From the average guys perspective PC has been and always will be a uninspiring lag fest, something most average players will not want to participate in. The whole 'timer' scenario sucked in EVE and sucks here in DUST too. Forgive me, I had grand ideas about persistent battles that people could hop in and hop out of as they pleased. In reality its just a glorified skirmish. No persistence, nothing really in the way of customisation either. I'm sure in some respects you agree with me. However loads of you are just as carebear as half of these forum goes.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 678	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:02:00 - [10] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Also your district locking abuse is by far the worst isk-farming operation in Dust right now. So it's kinda fun seeing how you condemn others for wanting to farm Many of you just simply don't understand. If the enemy teams is running the FOTM, than the best counter is to do the same. And with that district locking, yeah DDB did that, and then stopped to prove a point, losing many of our districts in the process. The point is, you can't PC if you can't make money off your district, so if the enemy is doing it, you have to do it as well. Yes unfortunate, but some of us actually want what you want. A more free and open PC! Absent of the bullshit! Tanks - Balancing Turrets

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 923	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:16:00 - [11] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong, but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebaears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me.
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 309	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:17:00 - [12] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? The Winner Takes It All
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:22:00 - [13] - Quote None of that is my point. All this was possible since day 1. The only thing that prevented it in the last 6 months was a mutual distrust between our side and AE. Recently we have proven that we can have honorable relations, so here we are. Meanwhile in that 6 months, ONE team(FA) has stepped up to be able to compete. The relative SP gap isn't that large any more... What is your excuse now? Kane Spero is actually a pretty honorable dude. Every time I come up with a scheme to scam PFC out of some isk, he declines. Every time I figure out a way to follow the letter of a contract but not the spirit, he refuses.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:27:00 - [14] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4062	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:30:00 - [15] - Quote And now we see Kains slaves come running to his aid. How cute. Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2770	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:04:00 - [16] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. Come on kain stop using an alt :-P no way would anyone be that blindy led :-P "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Leonid Tybalt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 359	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:46:00 - [17] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Also your district locking abuse is by far the worst isk-farming operation in Dust right now. So it's kinda fun seeing how you condemn others for wanting to farm Many of you just simply don't understand. If the enemy teams is running the FOTM, than the best counter is to do the same. And with that district locking, yeah DDB did that, and then stopped to prove a point, losing many of our districts in the process. The point is, you can't PC if you can't make money off your district, so if the enemy is doing it, you have to do it as well. Yes unfortunate, but some of us actually want what you want. A more free and open PC! Absent of the bullshit! Excuses excuses...
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 942	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:54:00 - [18] - Quote Most corps gave up on PC making it more profitable to farm ISK than to fight. Without having to worry about a legitimate threat coming along trying to make a name for themselves of course a few corps will blue up to farm free ISK. There were several factors that led to the pathetic current state of PC and trying to single out one person as some kind of "mastermind" is idiotic. If you really want my honest answer I'd tell you that they did it because what the hell else are they supposed to do? Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4809	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:01:00 - [19] - Quote DNS owns 79% of MH I give if another week before we own 100% of everything outside of PFC and Thunderdome planet lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 153	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:06:00 - [20] - Quote Move this sh* t to the war room. I'd rather read the patch QQ and tanker tears.

Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 188	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:15:00 - [21] - Quote Given the incentive structure, things like this are bound to happen. I don't think it's the product of malevolence or some grand scheme. Playing a winning hand (in this case having most of the best players in the game) doesn't make someone a genius. It just means they're competent. In the interest of more fights, I'd like a shake up of the current alliance, but it's not going to diminish my enjoyment of the game that much. Cheers, Aramis
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1505	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:18:00 - [22] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: team players/nyian san and AE calling everyone else FOTM chasing carebears? all credability lost right there. You Do Understand they are the ones Creating FOTM.... Started with Impz... Theory craft the best builds for competitive play(PC) Then people see how strong it is in Pubs and copy. The Great cycle of FOTM... The amount of times i heard in newb corps "I'm just gonna wait to see what Nyain san is running, to spec into that" IS in the hundreds...
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 845	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:26:00 - [23] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 845	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:34:00 - [24] - Quote edit "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 610	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:40:00 - [25] - Quote 'lols' alround guys! Fiddle, im glad your posting here, because your EVE record would get you laughed out of here rather sharpish. FOTM is deifnately order of the day, I would of figured that out when you guys ran straight CR and RR spam!! At the end of the day, what did you guys expect? FA Look like they were planted, or at least a deal was struck pretty early on which meant that instead of running the show like the 'leet' corp they should be, they (Zatara) asked everyone else in the alliance for money(Molon & STB Mostly) and no showed half there fights. Hmmmm. So Sir flakey/leakalot as he is know known in the alliance has moved to 'better things' aka NF Already did i see, congratz! Then we have TP, AE, IMPS & Remainder of PFBz(lol and FA now) all join one giant circle jerk and attack everyone else. Well done guys! What else did you expect? Im glad your all on the same side, hopefully it makes for a bit of interesting Meta when it all goes to sh!te. Because unless someone is looking to burn it to the ground then DUST is going to become very stale. Ive already detailed out why most of the corps in GTA havent come out swinging, I also think alot of FOTM was based on the RR and CR. because a heavy dying in 2 secs to a CR is fair/right? lol... The fact that you hold 79% of MH is nothing, you dont hold 100%? so until you try and keep the posting like you own the place to yourselves. Lastly Kain Spero, the fact that as a CSM, who probably has access to more priveledge information than the rest of New eden has then proceeded to lead this crusade against New eden is diabolical tbh. Why this guy is being fed information about current affairs/bugs/impending nerfs/buffs/brief glimpses of whats to come before the rest of is has led to an unfair advantage for the rest of us. IMHO Of coarse theres going to be; KAIN SPERO : 'GUSY I WOULD NEVER DO THAT I RESPECT CSM AND CCP TOO MUCH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU GUYS k?' Who you going to believe? STB EU Director since October 2012. STB EVE Pilot ; Vervz
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 845	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:43:00 - [26] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. You just threw out wallet numbers that would take 15-20 average players to equal. When I say average I'm not referring to individual skill either btw. The last few OSG PC matches (way back) before we walked away from PC we had teams literally throwing protogear into our guns and burning clone packs steadily trying to clone us since they were usually behind on MCC. No tactics other than zerg and out-spend; and I acknowledge that ISK attrition is a very viable strategy. That ways a very expensive venture for us and we are in pretty good shape. It's hard to imagine an up and coming corp trying to fight their way INTO the PC game without the ISK farm in place and the closed beta vets with 50mil wallets walking around. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2246	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:45:00 - [27] - Quote yes AE and the rest "won" pc, eventually something might change but I would expect it any time soon, as mentioned by many they can just sit and enjoy isk without playing the game, most eve players prefer this. the Nyan alliance are eve players and isk sellers so this is the prefered situation. the situation is easily resolved by opening up more and more districts for players to fight over, it's quite reasonable for a large alliance to control a sector of space, the problem is we don't have any other sectors to fight over.
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 361	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:49:00 - [28] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance. Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand. Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. You just threw out wallet numbers that would take 15-20 average players to equal. When I say average I'm not referring to individual skill either btw. The last few OSG PC matches (way back) before we walked away from PC we had teams literally throwing protogear into our guns and burning clone packs steadily trying to clone us since they were usually behind on MCC. No tactics other than zerg and out-spend; and I acknowledge that ISK attrition is a very viable strategy. That ways a very expensive venture for us and we are in pretty good shape. It's hard to imagine an up and coming corp trying to fight their way INTO the PC game without the ISK farm in place and the closed beta vets with 50mil wallets walking around. 50mil? Try 500mil, the more things stagnate the more people will get richer. "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1114	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:53:00 - [29] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: DNS owns 79% of MH I give if another week before we own 100% of everything outside of PFC and Thunderdome planet lol Wow it really is hilarious how you all are trying to ruin this game! But like most human beings you'll just selfishly think only of yourselves, f*ck up the ecosystem and then move on. So what game are you pricks moving to after Dust dies because no new players come in because of protostomping douchebags with unlimited ISK from PC and all us vets get sick of the same old stale game you are helping to create? So I can avoid playing it Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5230	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:57:00 - [30] - Quote What is stopping people from fighting back? fuckign casuls



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