There is literally ZERO chance that any corp outside of the donut would be able to take a district from the donut using clone packs. When I say ZERO that might be seen as an exaggeration but it's not. Even if you were able to win 3 consecutive battles with clone packs you are talking about 108 million ISK per district. Now take your pick from what district will 300 clones be immediately sent from to take it back.

There's a reason that PC slowly ran off 90% of the people that participated in it from day 1.

Exactly, DNSBlack is the head of the alliance. I'm just the head of DNS Dust side operations. Fiddle is one of the primary Eve-Dust liaisons.

So fiddle representing nyain and AE now? Where you read that?

lol. is that the short list?

Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off.

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You can put on your big boy pants and have some actual competition or you can continue to sit on the bench watch the varsity team whip the crap out of the JV squad and pat yourself on the back about how good and/or smart you are for being on such an awesome team.

To continue with the sports analogy, leagues have a salary cap to keep things competitive because when one team wins all the time it is bad for everybody in the sport as a whole. Less people watch, less revenue is generated, and if it goes bad enough the league folds.

This doesn't change the fact that Planetary Conquest has many flaws that need to be addressed: clone packs being too small, to much ISK coming from passive generation, the snowball effect of having more districts than your opponent.

Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off.

As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week.

FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though.

Many of you just simply don't understand. If the enemy teams is running the FOTM, than the best counter is to do the same.

And with that district locking, yeah DDB did that, and then stopped to prove a point, losing many of our districts in the process. The point is, you can't PC if you can't make money off your district, so if the enemy is doing it, you have to do it as well.

Yes unfortunate, but some of us actually want what you want.

A more free and open PC! Absent of the bullshit!

First off, thanks for the kind words. For some reason, people like to deride and demean us, and I appreciate you recognizing that all we are doing is trying and having fun in the process.

Beyond that, I accept your answer on a personal level (and respect you for doing so!) but I do have a follow up question:

What % of the players in DNS and associated corps do the same as you and refuse the ISK?

I would wager it is a VERY small percentage (and the sums changing hands are very large -- for instance, I know of once instance of payments of 20M ISK per week), but in truth I really don't know, and thus the question.

Again, thanks for the kind words -- it's always nice to be respected by your competition, particularity one that beats up on us with the frequency of TP. :)

Take care...Leadfoot