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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:49:00 -
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Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance.
Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand.
Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:22:00 -
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None of that is my point. All this was possible since day 1. The only thing that prevented it in the last 6 months was a mutual distrust between our side and AE. Recently we have proven that we can have honorable relations, so here we are.
Meanwhile in that 6 months, ONE team(FA) has stepped up to be able to compete. The relative SP gap isn't that large any more... What is your excuse now?
Kane Spero is actually a pretty honorable dude. Every time I come up with a scheme to scam PFC out of some isk, he declines. Every time I figure out a way to follow the letter of a contract but not the spirit, he refuses. |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:27:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance.
Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand.
Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that?  Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot
Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off.
As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week.
FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:06:00 -
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This is in general discussion because of the posts accusing Kane of using insider knowledge to gain some sort of advantage were in general discussion.
You don't need knowledge of PC 2.0 or whatever hair-brained libel these guys are coming up with to have incentive for us to act as we have.
You aren't going to meta your way out of this. Even if your defamation scheme works, the pieces are already in place. |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:32:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:WTF are we talking about?
Do anyone regardless of who you are or what corp you defend believe that the current PC situation is fun?
Farming isk is that fun? In what way is it fun to make make belive money in a make believe world?
Do you go to your RL friends bragging how mutch isk you have?
I just want to have a good fight and PC atm is a big jawn fest. I don't care if I win or loose I just want to have good fights that last more than 10 min.
You are not in your right mind regardless on what side of the fence you are at to defend the current PC game mechanics.
I have no problem in saying that AE/NYAN/ESCROW and others are the best PC corps out there and I commend you for it.
However if you think things are fine as they are you must be kidding me or maybe I am just daft or something for not understanding your point.
Regards
Who said that the mechanics are fine?
If I did, I apologize.
Clone packs obviously don't work as intended. That should be the first change.
It generates too much ISK. Lower that too.
Eve OBs are too powerful, shouldn't get as many per match. |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:06:00 -
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M1tch Rapp wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:WTF are we talking about?
Do anyone regardless of who you are or what corp you defend believe that the current PC situation is fun?
Farming isk is that fun? In what way is it fun to make make belive money in a make believe world?
Do you go to your RL friends bragging how mutch isk you have?
I just want to have a good fight and PC atm is a big jawn fest. I don't care if I win or loose I just want to have good fights that last more than 10 min.
You are not in your right mind regardless on what side of the fence you are at to defend the current PC game mechanics.
I have no problem in saying that AE/NYAN/ESCROW and others are the best PC corps out there and I commend you for it.
However if you think things are fine as they are you must be kidding me or maybe I am just daft or something for not understanding your point.
Regards Who said that the mechanics are fine? If I did, I apologize. Clone packs obviously don't work as intended. That should be the first change. It generates too much ISK. Lower that too. Eve OBs are too powerful, shouldn't get as many per match. I was in a fleet with you a while back when Public Disorder was still a thing. You seemed to be a cool dude. What is your honest take on PC? Do you like it that so few participate? Do you like it that it's so easy for so few to dominate it? If you still won 90% of your fights, but there was participation from even 20% of the community wouldn't that be more fun? Do you feel that a Dust corp full of non PC players have the ability to participate in PC with these mechanics? I don't believe that's the case. I don't think we have the tools available for non PC players to navigate the steep learning curve. Even if they were 1v1 highly skilled slayers I don't think the strategies and tactics would click with them by the time they threw in the towel. I miss the days when Imps and others like them were aholes on the forums, but you could tell they cared about the future of the game.
I think this will work out for the community as a whole long term. The whiners and guys with bad forum meta guys will all quit. CCP will eventually make PC more accessible. We plan to designate a portion of Molden Heath for corps that actually show up and want to fight, so those guys will still have action. |
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:34:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Kane didn't do anything wrong. You lost because you didn't fight back when you had the chance.
Stop being sissies, that is main reason why I enjoy boxing you out of PC. A majority of you are FOTM chasing carebears that want to have their isk and farm it too. Too scared to stand up for yourself and now you want the devs to hold your hand.
Everything that we have done and are doing could have been accomplished CPM or not. I look at the starmap each night and attack everything that is online that isn't blue... You think I need CPM guidance to do that? Tell us, how much ISK does your corp pay you every week/month from the gains they get from PC? I'm not necessarily suggesting you're wrong -- tbh, cying to devs to undo a situation is the wrong way to go about it -- but I am suggesting there may be millions and millions of reasons you feel this way. lol @ "FOTM chasing carebears". That's cute, but smacks of hypocrisy to me. Respectfully....Leadfoot Kudos to Molon for actually trying to fight back first off. As for me, I decline to take profit except for covering operational expenses and a small amount to cover the massive ISK I lose running proto in pubs constantly. On the whole, I lose a few million each week (that I stockpiled during the TP days) and about 50 million eve isk a week. FOTM wise the only thing I use that is cheesy is cloak right now. If you look at my build, there is probably less than 1% that use anything similar to what I am doing right now. I'm having a blast with it though. First off, thanks for the kind words. For some reason, people like to deride and demean us, and I appreciate you recognizing that all we are doing is trying and having fun in the process. Beyond that, I accept your answer on a personal level (and respect you for doing so!) but I do have a follow up question: What % of the players in DNS and associated corps do the same as you and refuse the ISK? I would wager it is a VERY small percentage (and the sums changing hands are very large -- for instance, I know of once instance of payments of 20M ISK per week), but in truth I really don't know, and thus the question. Again, thanks for the kind words -- it's always nice to be respected by your competition, particularity one that beats up on us with the frequency of TP. :) Take care...Leadfoot
To answer your question:
Not many :D. We like to role play our mercenary thing. DNS Dust is a bunch of RP wannabes. |
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