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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
902
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:47:00 -
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im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Archbot
W a r F o r g e d
116
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:48:00 -
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Then be one.
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Lucrezia LeGrand
384
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:49:00 -
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reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
371
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:50:00 -
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I'm still a dedicated medic. Minmatar for life! Of course I did spend all day yesterday in a Minja suit stabbing people...feeling like the goddamn Predator!
We can pickle that.
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3150
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:50:00 -
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Are you asking for uplinks, ammo, and rep hives? You know, that equipment spam?
If its just needles, anyone can carry them, so do it. |
knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
902
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:51:00 -
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Archbot wrote:Then be one. i only am on occasion but i mostly run min scout and min assualt. other wise i ***** in all the WP's with how much health the heavies have and reviving anyone who dies.
i really dont get why some logi's stop cuz its a grreat way to get WP now
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
902
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:52:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Are you asking for uplinks, ammo, and rep hives? You know, that equipment spam?
im primarily talkiing about repping and reviving
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3150
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:53:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Archbot wrote:Then be one. i only am on occasion but i mostly run min scout and min assualt. other wise i ***** in all the WP's with how much health the heavies have and reviving anyone who dies. i really dont get why some logi's stop cuz its a grreat way to get WP now
Because of all the hate we get when we top the board for helping you out. We can only take so much ungrateful crying. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1989
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:57:00 -
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Only logi I've seen so far is 1 single ck.0 with REs and cloak, a few gk.0s being slayers, and Minmatar ones of all tiers repping the Legion of Heavies. Maybe 1 or 2 Amarr as well.
And less than 5 assaults combined.
I miss killing medium frames :/ |
Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
356
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:57:00 -
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Not unless you send us chocolates and flowers, you can't just take us for granted and treat us like your maid then wham bam thank you ma'am, we need to be wooed.
Because, that's why.
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Twelve Guage
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
195
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:58:00 -
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Wait wait a minute I got to take a picture of this people are b***** there aren't enough medics. Guess that's the circle of life working bro. But honestly I'm not running my Matar logistics because lock on for my rep tool suck and i'm pretty sure none of my suit bonuses are being applied so until they do that hot patch i'll be in my scouts suit.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Corporation
470
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:01:00 -
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You asked to nerf us to the ground, we were nerfed several times... Now.... |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3151
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:04:00 -
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Too many other sexy things to do now. You took us for granted and did nothing but complain. So we are dumping your sorry asses and going out for some fun. |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
371
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:05:00 -
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The logi game is still strong and I've had great games running my Minmatar (the squishiest) logi. So many heavies, hell solo work is available for dedicated healers with all the fatties running (slowly) around.
With the scout surge however there is a lot of me repping my heavy with my back to him so I can watch for sneaky sneaks flanking the rear.
I love the way the game feels now. So much more to it now! Adding cloaks was the best! There is a whole new level of strategy.
It is now completely possible to focus on flipping points and win despite your team burning clones like it was a Dustchwitz reenactment. Seriously so happy!
We can pickle that.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
594
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:06:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank As someone who uses a rep tool,and injector i can tell you why there aren't more medics.
Support based players such as myself can't disengage ANY battles we happen to come across. We try to run only to be killed by magnetic bullets bending around corners,or by hyper long range shots RR and CR even AR in 1.8. Or being obliterated by anything that shoots at us. 1.8 hasn't helped TTK at all where support is concerned.
Woo i can run 7m/s as a Min logi....and yet ANY heavy can chase me around corners while unloading their HMG into my backside. Not to mention,as soon as a rep tool appears they single you out because: -You're defenseless -The person you're repping doesn't give a crap about your survival.
Not to mention the slowdown if you get shot even once,it cuts my speed down to half of my walking speed. 2.5m/s WHILE SPRINTING. That and the costs of trying to run a decent fit while also being singled out and getting One Hit Killed by snipers and shotgunners because you're the medic with no one to revive you makes it a monsterous ISK sink.
I game over like a boss.
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Havaru Fox
Golden Empire of EvE
88
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:06:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
people like you are the reason why i dont play my caldari logi anymore. why run a logi if any a..hole in this game can do the same job that i do?
Quote:When the Last Tree Is Cut Down, the Last Fish Eaten, and the Last Stream Poisoned, You Will Realize That You Cannot Eat Money
or in this case: when the last amarr logi uplink drop bot uplink is used, when the last caldari logi bot hives is used, CCP will understand, that real logi players dont want to share there WP with randoms that can do the job just as good as someone that pays a ton of ISK to spawn in a real logi suit with meta4+ gear
i dont see the "problem", because when i spawn and see uplinks and hives by normal suits all over the place, then i dont waste my money on my logi anymore.
why should i? i can drop my uplink and the people will spawn on the other uplinks anyway... i dont even notice when my own uplink/hive got killed. and the repair tool? haha.... only minmatar gets a bonus. that scout without cloak can repair just as good as i can...
F U CCP... who ever made the bonus for the logis and did think "hmm.... maybe we should not give all logis a repair bonus...." was the one that killed most of the logis. but maybe its the same person who made the hardeners and the AV balance.. |
knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
902
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:06:00 -
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i never asked for any nefing. logi's loosing that passive 1 rep is a good thing and i wanted logi's to be real logi's and not slayers
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Quil'n Khan
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
5
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:09:00 -
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Well I still run my Logi, but I am noticing that the stealth scouts like to one shot me because they have more health than I do (mind you I will be in a group, and no one is watching the rear).....and running the good stuff is pretty darn expensive.... I mean I could pick you up with a lesser injector, and take 5 mins to rep you with a lesser rep tool.
Hey CCP...how about letting me rep myself already, or give me the option to give up 50% of my damage ability for 50% damage resistance....something...throw a logi a bone already...lol (inserted random rant here for QQs.....because what is a post with out QQ). |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1108
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:17:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:i never asked for any nefing. logi's loosing that passive 1 rep is a good thing and i wanted logi's to be real logi's and not slayers
Its the equipment nerfs, specifically the unneeded rep tool one that is keeping my logi suit in my merc quarters closet. Yeah I could pull out my support Gallente logi, but then I'm dependent on blueberries to protect me and not run away from my woefully short rep tool, etc.. or I can pull out my Amarr assault or Cal commando and do my own thing.
The biggest problem with how they nerfed the logis is it has done very little to deter them, but it has hurt us real logis, not too mention all the QQing people do on the forums about the logi has pissed many of us off. Maybe if more people have your attitude more logi's will roam the battlefield again
...or I'll run out of ISK and have to run my Dren logi again
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
625
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:19:00 -
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these forums man
"goddamn logis keep reviving me! I DON'T WANT TO BE REVIVED GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS"
"Nobody is carrying around nanite injectors! WTF HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO WIN WITHOUT REVIVES" |
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Type 2910 MK-II
The United Peoples' Tactical Force
18
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:30:00 -
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I am a dedicated minmitar proto (but advanced Nantes and hive) logi I have about 550 armor on my Adv suit and 633 on my proto. Both carry a K2 nano hive the Adv native injector, and either a six kin or corefocused rep tool. I rarely run logi outside of a squad and when I am in a squad my squadmates come before blue berries. If I'm not in a squad I'm usually rocking up a Adv minmitar assault with damage mods and finally I also am a very confident dropship pilot (not assault I can fly them but I hate them) with access all basic level vehicles. If you need a logi send me mail but due to the "he is yellow kill him first" I will require a hand with suit payment. Nothing to expensive usually it's only around 100k ISK for a game and I won't charge extra the next if I don't need it on suits. Send me mail if you are interested in my services. |
Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
195
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:34:00 -
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Meee One wrote:knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank As someone who uses a rep tool,and injector i can tell you why there aren't more medics. Support based players such as myself can't disengage ANY battles we happen to come across. We try to run only to be killed by magnetic bullets bending around corners,or by hyper long range shots RR and CR even AR in 1.8. Or being obliterated by anything that shoots at us. 1.8 hasn't helped TTK at all where support is concerned. Woo i can run 7m/s as a Min logi....and yet ANY heavy can chase me around corners while unloading their HMG into my backside. Not to mention,as soon as a rep tool appears they single you out because: -You're defenseless -The person you're repping doesn't give a crap about your survival. Not to mention the slowdown if you get shot even once,it cuts my speed down to half of my walking speed. 2.5m/s WHILE SPRINTING. That and the costs of trying to run a decent fit while also being singled out and getting One Hit Killed by snipers and shotgunners because you're the medic with no one to revive you makes it a monsterous ISK sink. This, so very much this. I have just shy of 600 ehp on my usual logistics suit with Advanced equipment. When I'm doing my job I'm targeted like a turkey the week of Thanksgiving. I often can only get to one or two people before someone, anyone, cuts me down and bastes me with grenades and rifle fire. And I want to do my job but in pubs I'm left for dead, expected to respawn and rush back at my rather pathetic 5-6 m/s sprint speed (Amarr, by the way). Yeah, I'm only just faster than a heavy. You want more logistics, try being one then. We're doing our best and that's all you're going to get from us. |
Rusty Shallows
1272
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:35:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. Dirty Needles are best shared in organized squads where it saves isk from Frame loss. Randoms in the past have needled me in front of enemy fire or ignored me when the coast is clear... *sigh*
I don't even regret removing them from all my ALTs fits. Very rarely has a situation come up when they'd be useful. Why should I die a large number of times when the other Equipment options will get used more? Not having someone get angry over messing with their KDR is just icing on the cake.
knight guard fury wrote:i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun. Brick tanking Heavies post-nerf may become a requirement. Speaking from experience using multiple complex armor plates is a living hell if you need to move more than a few meters in any direction.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1110
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:38:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Speaking from experience using multiple complex armor plates is a living hell if you need to move more than a few meters in any direction.
That's the trade off for all those resistances, CPU/PG, and nasty HMG the heavy gets IMHO.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2113
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:39:00 -
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I have been logi since logi-dom begain and couldn't be bothered to run them in pubs or FW. Why? They just cost to much money. Trust me I have tried to run cheap suits but even then you die more and it adds up.
CCP has no clue about the isk risk vs reward mechanics. I ran my proto gal logi to test some scan modules and the bonus. I was killed twice same match by a dragonfly scout with milita shotgun and a cloak.
So yeah not happening sorry
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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thomas mak
THE-TITANS
47
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:41:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
me too
Why tank rule the sky
Why tanks are so cheap
Why all the vehicle module are GONE!!!!!!!!
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Rusty Shallows
1272
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:42:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Speaking from experience using multiple complex armor plates is a living hell if you need to move more than a few meters in any direction. That's the trade off for all those resistances, CPU/PG, and nasty HMG the heavy gets IMHO. Maybe we have different definitions of "a living hell."
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
91
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:53:00 -
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Don't use injectors is the area is still Dangerous... The D in DR ABC.
Who is the best in clearing an area and carrying equipment? Not a Logibro, not heavies. So it is upto assaults and scouts to clear the area and then revive. They are the medics, for supplies and revives that is the bros.
So the best paramedic in the game right now is probably the Amarr scout as they are the ones who can tank, surprise kill an opponent and have a spare equipment slot for an injector. Heck they could combo it with a revive tool too. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1954
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:27:00 -
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Hahaha, the OP almost made me die of laughter.
Logi and AV roles have been utterly depreciated over time, cried upon, then nerfed... and now people are crying over the consequences.
"You reap what you sow" and "Vengeance is a dish best served cold" are some proverbs that comes to mind.
Just read some of the posts I made about those roles whose I was specialized in. I won't repeat myself all over again.
Note that now that these roles have been nerfed into unusefulness, I've deleted my previously efficient Logi/AV Fittings and I've reinvested my refunded SP into now funnier things than Logi Dropsuits.
Haha! All the ISK and equipment I will save from now on!
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Darken-Soul, Long Evity and DeadlyAztec11.
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1455
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:31:00 -
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i distinctly recall making a predictions that logi's would become much less common in your average pub match post 1.8 due to ccp limiting they're versatility in what they can provide.
that said i run my logi ..but do not use is causally in pubs except to the aid of my own personal squad mates
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1455
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:33:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:Don't use injectors is the area is still Dangerous... The D in DR ABC.
Who is the best in clearing an area and carrying equipment? Not a Logibro, not heavies. So it is upto assaults and scouts to clear the area and then revive. They are the medics, for supplies and revives that is the bros.
So the best paramedic in the game right now is probably the Amarr scout as they are the ones who can tank, surprise kill an opponent and have a spare equipment slot for an injector. Heck they could combo it with a revive tool too. pfft no amar scout can trump my amar logi in logistical support
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1722
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:37:00 -
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Although I've abandoned my MinLogi, I still do everything it did while on my Scout. I have several fittings that I switch out every time I die.
My first fitting has Uplinks. My second fitting has REs and Hives. My third fitting has Injectors and a Rep Tool. I cycle through these in every match. |
ibmeubu68
G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:37:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on
Really?? So, you ask for logi love then make a statement like this. I see why you get no love from my thankless play style. Bet your the type of douche that runs into a red gaggle and then wonders why the needle isn't there to fix your **** ups. |
J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
276
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:42:00 -
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I was a 24 mil SP dedicated proto Min Logi, with all Core, Electronics and Engineering at 5, and all equipment except scanners at 4. I skilled primarily 1 weapon so I could put my other points into logi-related skills, my trusty GEK-38. After the respec, I now have about 9 mil unallocated points to play with. I was intending to go back into Min proto, and prolly Amarr for the uplinks.
Last night, I logged into my 20+ mil sp heavy alt, specced proto Amarr, created a nice 1400 ehp suit, and spent about 4 hours getting 2 and 3 shotted by invisible scouts. All freaking night long.
Are you people seriously wondering why there are no logis around? You think I'm gonna take my newly-freed 9 million sp, create a badass 200K ISK suit with proto equipment with the intention of supporting my team on a Dom, spawn in to lay down a hive or uplink, and then get OHK out of fraking nowhere by any low-to-moderately proficient scout, who will then flux the equipment I just laid anyways?
Lolf*ckno, you mercs are out of your frakking minds. And so are you, CCP.
After listening to all the bitching about equipment spam, and logis innate reps being OP, and all the playa-hating for being at the top of the board for WP, blah blah blah, I'm a bit sick of it. And I am sure as **** not spending this patch spawning in with expensive logi suits and getting lolpwned by tankers and scouts. You all go and support yourselves from now on. I'm taking my 9 mil and going FOTM.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
893
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:48:00 -
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For lack of a better piece of equipment to use I equipped a proto nanite injector to my logi gk.0
With the longer TTK, high speed ninjas uncloaking everywhere and the walking buildings that need to be chopped down bit by bit, getting to people in time is proving very difficult.
Not having any sort of meaningful AV is also making it impossible to revive when tanks are prowling.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Lucrezia LeGrand
388
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:52:00 -
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Havaru Fox wrote:Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
people like you are the reason why i dont play my caldari logi anymore. why run a logi if any a..hole in this game can do the same job that i do? don't blame us if CCP can't balance their logis, and we're not a**holes. --_-- A heavy who snipes? Yeah, they're allowed to do that. a logi who tanks? sure why not? an assault who runs stealth? possible, though I haven't seen it yet.
So why shouldn't a scout be allowed to run around as a medic? I had the option of going with higher cpu/pg and more shield and armor, but you know what? I suck. there, I said it. I'm not very good at shooters. So I see more of a benefit in being sneaky and knowing when there's an enemy up ahead than all the extra stuff logi suits can give me.
I'm not going to get mad at you because I agree, that CCP really really screwed up logis (and assaults), but we're not a**holes trying to ruin the game for "true" logis. We like scout suits and we are trying to diversify now that stealth cloak scouts seem to be fotm.
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
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Thokk Nightshade
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
9
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:54:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:.
It is now completely possible to focus on flipping points and win despite your team burning clones like it was a Dustchwitz reenactment. Seriously so happy!
This is one of the best lines I've seen in any chat. It is completely inappropriate, but the concept is solid. |
Alpha 443-6732
General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:57:00 -
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I run a standard nanite injector on my caldari commando |
Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
44
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Posted - 2014.03.27 05:34:00 -
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Just had a quick idea, perhaps if while the reps are active you get the same resistances as the heavy you are repping. Never happening I know but, just imagine. However as a dedicated logibro, reps first, kill surrounding enemies second, injectors third. If there is fighting I am going to keep the reps up until the bullets stop, however once that happens I will needle the **** out of anyone around and then drop some hives. So if you do die, by all means wait because you are some delicious points.
As for reps, the person whose shield I am first, and then if you really need it, I'll top you off if it isn't in a situation that wouldn't compromise my charge.
P.S. No dirty needle here, wirkomi injector. I try to maintain a 95% and over revive survival rate. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
2119
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Posted - 2014.03.27 05:49:00 -
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Meh. I'm using a Repair Tool on my G-I suit. You really can't ask me to do much else. I'm already: defending points, driving away vehicles, repairing people, backing up the choke points. What more do you want from me?!
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara, Uprising 1.7
Long live the Commandos!
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ET Light
Dark Knightz Corp.
2
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:54:00 -
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I'm 100% logi and there are not many opportunities to revive as most people are killed surrounded by enemies. Other times they are killed by a sniper that is waiting for you to try and revive in order to pick you off as well. Repping teammates in battle is like shouting "Hey EVERYONE I'M DEFENSELESS SHOOT ME!" Anyone worth their salt is taking you out first if you're repping someone especially if the person you're repping is a heavy. Plus we also have the job of equipment placement which will most likely be taken out by the lone scouts running around. People think logistics just have to pull the equipment out then reap the WP. I wish it was as simple as that. |
Type 2910 MK-II
The United Peoples' Tactical Force
18
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:31:00 -
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ET Light wrote:I'm 100% logi and there are not many opportunities to revive as most people are killed surrounded by enemies. Other times they are killed by a sniper that is waiting for you to try and revive in order to pick you off as well. Repping teammates in battle is like shouting "Hey EVERYONE I'M DEFENSELESS SHOOT ME!" Anyone worth their salt is taking you out first if you're repping someone especially if the person you're repping is a heavy. Plus we also have the job of equipment placement which will most likely be taken out by the lone scouts running around. People think logistics just have to pull the equipment out then reap the WP. I wish it was as simple as that. Couldn't have said it better myself |
Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
297
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:33:00 -
[43] - Quote
I run amarr commando with an adv needle
Scr and commando enthusiast.
A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life...
"The only thing to fear is fear itself"
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
442
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:36:00 -
[44] - Quote
there's been a slight decrease, but not too bad.
The people I squad with have a needle. I don't care what you say about that. My squad is going to have a bloody logi.
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1672
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:36:00 -
[45] - Quote
I have uplinks you can spawn in on with full life. Cry more about logistics.
Who wants some?
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
1025
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:39:00 -
[46] - Quote
Remember when you whined about logis being op? Remember when you said that all logis were FOTM chasers? Remember when you said that you wanted logis nerfed into the ground?
Well here you go. Enjoy.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
295
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:Archbot wrote:Then be one. i only am on occasion but i mostly run min scout and min assualt. other wise i ***** in all the WP's with how much health the heavies have and reviving anyone who dies. i really dont get why some logi's stop cuz its a grreat way to get WP now
I'm a gal logi - my uplinks are ****, my rep tool is ****, my needles are ****, my scanners yup, pretty **** - so carry on slaying then.
The need to bring the second eq slot back to assault suits - I'd almost definitely run a ****** needle then |
rattilius
A.O.D. VP Gaming Alliance
5
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
1.8 Traded in my scanner, which I only used between fire fights, for a proto needle on my suit. Myself and corp mates very happy with the results. My games improved tremendously making isk and supporting assault team. I make very few kills playing logi but that's ok. My KDR has never been high anyway.
Ever desireless one can see the mystery.......ever desiring one only see's the manifestations.
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Ensar Cael
Black Spire Force Recon
96
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
I see a few true logis running around still. I usually go for the revived person first before killing the logi. Better to keep them tied up and away from the main action you know? |
azzkikr 619
the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
I used to love being a logi, I was hoping that a patch would get rid of all those fake logis but it looks like all my equipments got nerfed to hell. Its hard to support the team w ****** uplinks , rep tools , and scanners. Its too expensive to fund these equipments especially when theyre not good. Hacked uplinks are just as good as proto links in my opinion. So I dont even bother with uplinks anymore. I just pray there's an amarr logi on our team. The range on the reptool? When was that a problem? Youre already exposed walking the heavies. wthy not shorten the leash? (Sarcasm) if people hid behind walls before, its because we cant rep with one hand and shoot with the other. Then theres the scanner, a nerf second to the flaylock. I was never a scanner fan. Sure it helped when squad visibility was taken away, but it was too strong and easy to exploit. I always played assuming the enemy knew Where i was, but now the cloaked scouts have me a little paranoid, cuz they are watching you all the time o.O as a gallente logi, i feel forced to equip the scanner. What a waste of a bonus. The way it works is, you scan the direction you know the enemy is at, just so you can see them on your radar, eventho you already know where they are at. I find myself scanning enemies that i already see, so that my scanner doesnt feel too useless. Logi work is no longer rewarding, too much sp and isk invested on unlocking all the proto equips just to give in and decide to slayer logi. I know other logis will agree, and those who depended on them will notice how much of a difference a good logi used to make on the field. Until then BYOE bring your own ****
Director and FC of the Third Day
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
412
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:26:00 -
[51] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:Skihids wrote:Are you asking for uplinks, ammo, and rep hives? You know, that equipment spam? im primarily talkiing about repping and reviving
I haven't used any SP in about 2 months (minus lvl 1 ion pistol because i didn't have any LP/Aurum and wanted to try it) but the more I play the more I feel like using a Cal/Gal scout as a logi would be pretty good. The passive scan is probably good enough if following a heavy around so that you're not snuck up on as often and you still have room for a rep tool and injector. I've heard of a couple people trying this tactic with success (including a post in this thread). I may sooner go into medic/scout than any logi other than minmatar. |
Vitoka79 from SVK
ZionTCD
75
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:36:00 -
[52] - Quote
I'm Gal logi but running standard Gal commando for that event.After the hotfix i get two low slots so i can finaly use the injector instead of the compact nanohive.I hope this helps
I don't need a pilot suit.I made my own without skill bonuses :(
Crashing dropships since september 2012...
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
275
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
I was a Min Logi, and I dumped the role, because even before 1.8 it was very difficult to go isk positive for me. I wasn't running a slayer, but a support logi (mostly scans hives and uplinks). I never really liked to run the rep tool and I dumped the injector back in the days when it was completely broken.
What I do now, is running my sever suit at the start of a match with proto uplinks. Before I get killed, I switch to a advanced commando with proto rep tool. I stay behind the shitloads of heavies, and have a decent chance, not to get one shotted by a scout. When I detect him in time, the MD has a good chance to get him...
To be hones, the commando is the new support logi for heavies. The only problem is the constant lack of ammo these days...
I think, as somebody suggested already, switching frames betwheen logis and commandos would be the perfect solution. Put the commando in a medium frame, with the High low slots of the logi, and only one equipment no grenade + two light weapons. Than put the logi equipment slots and only one light weapon on the commando suit with the commandos high low slots.
There you go, a medium frame with powerful light weapons, and a heavy frame logi, that can survive in the hostile environment that CQC is, but with low firepower. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2404
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:17:00 -
[54] - Quote
I run Injectors on about half of my fits, REs on the other half.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Tebli
DUST University Ivy League
40
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
MrShooter01 wrote:these forums man
"goddamn logis keep reviving me! I DON'T WANT TO BE REVIVED GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS"
"Nobody is carrying around nanite injectors! WTF HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO WIN WITHOUT REVIVES"
Everybody wants a logi but nobody wants to be logi.
I have been and always will be a dedicated logi/medic. Heck I will even run an ambulance when the game allows for it.
Mentor Manager - Dust University
Keep Calm and Squad Up.
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1975
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:38:00 -
[56] - Quote
Been running logi since logi was a thing. In the last few updates I mostly ran scanner / hives / links, but with the TTK changes and min logi bonus I've switched mostly to the medic role with as many advanced hives as possible. Been pretty profitable so far. I can easily earn 2000 WP in a match from healing and reviving.
Usually when it becomes unprofitable is when I try to pull out a proto rep tool in a pub match. That's because there's a cloaked shotgun scout next to every spawn point lol. Or at least it seems that way in some matches. |
Yuen II
LEGIONE ITALIANA 514 RUST415
11
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
I play ONLY Logi, alwais serving and helping (and sometimes killing) |
Scar Scrilla
UN1TED NATIONS Caps and Mercs
198
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
I will always throw u a hive or two
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
"Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2512
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:27:00 -
[59] - Quote
I'm gojng to repeat something I've said, oh, 895 times on these forums over the past 4-5 months in every thread where you assault clowns were crying your little one track mind eyes about logi's getting so many WP, logi being easy mode, equipment spam, whatever.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU F*CKING ASK FOR.
That is all.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
361
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:53:00 -
[60] - Quote
I tried to NOT play logi but I kept thinking man, we need some up links right here, we need some hives, those guys sure could use some reps, and so I switch suits just to do that one thing and end up being a Logi again. I'll run heavy, AV, Scout, but they are all situational, being a Logi is what I do, nerf me, buff me, it's what I am.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
361
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:32:00 -
[61] - Quote
Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Havaru Fox wrote:Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
people like you are the reason why i dont play my caldari logi anymore. why run a logi if any a..hole in this game can do the same job that i do? don't blame us if CCP can't balance their logis, and we're not a**holes. --_-- A heavy who snipes? Yeah, they're allowed to do that. a logi who tanks? sure why not? an assault who runs stealth? possible, though I haven't seen it yet. So why shouldn't a scout be allowed to run around as a medic? I had the option of going with higher cpu/pg and more shield and armor, but you know what? I suck. there, I said it. I'm not very good at shooters. So I see more of a benefit in being sneaky and knowing when there's an enemy up ahead than all the extra stuff logi suits can give me. I'm not going to get mad at you because I agree, that CCP really really screwed up logis (and assaults), but we're not a**holes trying to ruin the game for "true" logis. We like scout suits and we are trying to diversify now that stealth cloak scouts seem to be fotm.
The suit doesn't make the role, what you do does. I've considered playing medic from a scout suit because the speed and jumping let's me get to people quicker and get to more people. If I was a logi dedicated to ripping heavies I'd do it from a heavy suit. It certainly doesn't make someone an ass hole for doing it.
Because, that's why.
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Tek Hound
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
170
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:33:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lmfaooo The community got what it asked for a logi nerf.Now you QQ that there aren't enough logi |
LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
57
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:46:00 -
[63] - Quote
I tried to be a logi last night with nanite, rep tool and Compact Nanohive. I stopped after awhile though.
You can thank the cloaked scouts for it. All night all they do is flank and attack us from the back. And me being the mostly unarmed guy supporting the front line from the rear, its always me and my equipment they kill first.
So I stopped doing logi. Ill start again when the SG backfarming stops enough for me to. |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
314
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:i never asked for any nefing. logi's loosing that passive 1 rep is a good thing and i wanted logi's to be real logi's and not slayers
But the problem is, if logis rep other people.... then how are logis meant to get repped
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1092
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
Real scouts aren't logi's assistance.
Assassination is my thing.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
697
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:54:00 -
[66] - Quote
Give time for the scout cloak crazy to wear down. People will get tired of that playstyle--either they'll be an aggressive cloaky/assault scout and die too much from making poor, assault-minded tactical decisions, or they'll get tired of low WP/isk/SP gains if they decide to defend a checkpoint.
The game will reset back to more normal levels of medium/heavy/light suit balance, and people will find the style they like. They'll go back to playing (real) medium Assault, support Logi, or some combination thereof. Now, though, just days after the patch, of course there's going to be PLENTY of players trying out the new hotness, just as everyone and their brothers are playing new forms of sentinel/commando suits and new sidearms.
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RockNrolla Ayatollah
RB MUSICK
15
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:The logi game is still strong and I've had great games running my Minmatar (the squishiest) logi. So many heavies, hell solo work is available for dedicated healers with all the fatties running (slowly) around.
With the scout surge however there is a lot of me repping my heavy with my back to him so I can watch for sneaky sneaks flanking the rear.
I love the way the game feels now. So much more to it now! Adding cloaks was the best! There is a whole new level of strategy.
It is now completely possible to focus on flipping points and win despite your team burning clones like it was a Dustchwitz reenactment. Seriously so happy!
agree agree agree!!! yes the cloaking scout is like a pesky mosquito!!!
I run 2 logi suits and 1 assault all minmatar (switched from galente with the new update) Here's my thing with this ............ I can't keep up with 15 other people LOL plain and simple so I try to rev who I can, heal the ones around me and not put myself in danger. I can tell you if you have died in the sea of red I can't rev you due to the fact it only takes two or three shots from a proto heavy and i'm dead too. So I'll take losing one to keep myself and 3 or 4 more alive. Also if you just got shot down and I come in to rev you it may be a minute because I TRY to look around and see if the "two hits proto heavy wonder" is still around. If hes moving on I wait a sec till hes out of eye sight then I can move in and rev you. so its not die, rev, die, rev. It may take a minute. Again, I'm more useful alive LOL. My main logi carries an injector, Double rep tool and a nanohive :-) But I will agree it is MUCH nicer when running with another logi and trying to work together as much as we can!!!
DON'T WAKE THE SNAKE!!! SSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Cosgar
ParagonX
9146
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:44:00 -
[68] - Quote
Probably shouldn't have chased them all away, trying to nerf them.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
416
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:45:00 -
[69] - Quote
Tek Hound wrote:Lmfaooo The community got what it asked for a logi nerf.Now you QQ that there aren't enough logi This |
ishtellian
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:53:00 -
[70] - Quote
Being a solo logi is tough.
My Heavy Never Dies.
Logibro In training.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
619
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Posted - 2014.03.28 02:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
Your going to have to hire medics now huh?
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
GalHeav E-vo
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
435
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Posted - 2014.03.28 02:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
ive seen why. because dumb heavyies dont look after there logi's they expose the logi to fire when they dont need to. this is what happens when there are so many clueless fat suits around.
ccp you broke the forge. skills are not being applied till 30 secs after spawn fixes before nerfs thank you.
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Havaru Fox
Golden Empire of EvE
96
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:53:00 -
[73] - Quote
Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Havaru Fox wrote:[quote=Lucrezia LeGrand]reporting for duty sir. I run a Caldari Scout with Nano injectors and repair gun.
I'm not going to get mad at you because I agree, that CCP really really screwed up logis (and assaults), but we're not a**holes trying to ruin the game for "true" logis. We like scout suits and we are trying to diversify now that stealth cloak scouts seem to be fotm.
i didnt want to call you a a..hole. its more like very a..hole can do the medic stuff, but maybe that is lost in translation from my german understanding.
when i spawn in a 30k logi suit and drop a uplink that noone spawns on (because of the amarr uplink only suit setups that spam the map + the people that just have them in the setup) and i cant repair people, because i have to "fight" for targets to heal with any other person, then i dont see the reason why i should spawn in a logi suit.
i just use my commando and drop a L4 nanohive to repair myself if needed and give myself ammo. maybe after the event i will go back to my logi and try to spam hives, because people seem to be low on ammo right now, but i still think that CCP is doing a bad job by not giving all logis a rep bonus.
but as far as i understand, we are on the same page there, because assault and logi suits stats are "a lil bit" stupid right now.
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bogeyman m
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:53:00 -
[74] - Quote
Meee One wrote:knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank As someone who uses a rep tool,and injector i can tell you why there aren't more medics. Support based players such as myself can't disengage ANY battles we happen to come across. We try to run only to be killed by magnetic bullets bending around corners,or by hyper long range shots RR and CR even AR in 1.8. Or being obliterated by anything that shoots at us. 1.8 hasn't helped TTK at all where support is concerned. Woo i can run 7m/s as a Min logi....and yet ANY heavy can chase me around corners while unloading their HMG into my backside. Not to mention,as soon as a rep tool appears they single you out because: -You're defenseless -The person you're repping doesn't give a crap about your survival. Not to mention the slowdown if you get shot even once,it cuts my speed down to half of my walking speed. 2.5m/s WHILE SPRINTING. That and the costs of trying to run a decent fit while also being singled out and getting One Hit Killed by snipers and shotgunners because you're the medic with no one to revive you makes it a monsterous ISK sink.
^THIS^
Duct tape 2.0 > Have WD-40; will travel.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
3755
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
You called me a FOTM user? Oh really? Alright, I will revive you...in the middle of gunfire.
It's bad enough people are trying to tell other people how to play and enjoy their game.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1466
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Posted - 2014.03.29 02:27:00 -
[76] - Quote
boba's fetta wrote:ive seen why. because dumb heavyies dont look after there logi's they expose the logi to fire when they dont need to. this is what happens when there are so many clueless fat suits around. serously besides the ohk scouts running around invisible ...by the time you swap away from ur gear to ur weapon ur dead...
besides that...lil fact
80% of all heavies are stupid morons...they dont care about the logi behind them ...they could care less if it dies...ive had heavies..turn and watch me die and then kill the person who killed me...why do i not carry a repper tool...becuase its not safe not to have something that kills in your hands
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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MoonEagle A
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
161
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:18:00 -
[77] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
Minmitar logi since beta just trying to weather this storm. Damn it's expensive and full of deaths. Oh 1.8 you are a B! |
Storm Shelton
0uter.Heaven
176
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
I always run my needle and I'm a certified nanite master. I always carry proto-equipment. Problem is, Nowadays I really can't rez someone successfully anymore. Most of the time I just can't rez because the game is screwy or I get jumped by 16 scouts.
BUT
If I find you downed, I will do my very best to see that you are rezzed to full health and resupplied. o7
Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm
Director of PAND3M0N1UM
Lai Dai Flux & Focused Core Repair Tool "Expert"
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1377
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:26:00 -
[79] - Quote
Storm Shelton wrote:knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank I always run my needle and I'm a certified nanite master. I always carry proto-equipment. Problem is, Nowadays I really can't rez someone successfully anymore. Most of the time I just can't rez because the game is screwy or I get jumped by 16 scouts. BUT If I find you downed, I will do my very best to see that you are rezzed to full health and resupplied. o7
I can testify this man is a top notch Dust514 Medic, cept when he pulls out his goddamn lai dais.... bang bang!
The Sinwarden
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Storm Shelton
0uter.Heaven
178
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:29:00 -
[80] - Quote
1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:
I can testify this man is a top notch Dust514 Medic, cept when he pulls out his goddamn lai dais.... bang bang!
Bang bang o7
LOL you shouldn't have to worry about my love for lai Dais anymore.... 1.8 took a serious crap on my toast in that department.
Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm
Director of PAND3M0N1UM
Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
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Rusty Shallows
1308
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
Dauth Jenkins wrote:knight guard fury wrote:i never asked for any nefing. logi's loosing that passive 1 rep is a good thing and i wanted logi's to be real logi's and not slayers But the problem is, if logis rep other people.... then how are logis meant to get repped A Complex Armor Repairer is standard issue on my Combat Engineer ALT, same for when he was a Medic and had the old Logi bonus.
I fit my defense first then the equipment. I've ran my ALT in all kinds of squads or solo. One truth has always been is he supports the Slayers. Most Slayers are not going to bother to carry a needle unless there is an understanding beforehand. Many good Slayers are going to want their own Nanohives so they aren't slowed down. By its nature a one-way arrangement. Since you are responsible for yourself there is nothing wrong focusing first on personal tank then Equipment.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2923
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:07:00 -
[82] - Quote
I swapped the Amarr logi for the winmatar heavy but I have the winmatar proto logi if I feel like wiping arse. I'm on my alt mostly, tech is technically my alt now lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I'll behave
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Storm Shelton
0uter.Heaven
193
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:08:00 -
[83] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:I swapped the Amarr logi for the winmatar heavy but I have the winmatar proto logi if I feel like wiping arse. I'm on my alt mostly, tech is technically my alt now lol.
Being a Logi now means SOLO.
Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm
Director of PAND3M0N1UM
Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
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Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
30
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
I pretty much 79% of the time run LOGI. I'm just 7% running Logi NOW because of the event. With the scanners and damage mods being useless for me on my proto suit now, I changed to a 60 second cloak so I can sneak to downed people and revive them. Need to finish teching up my nanites though before I start running it more seriously.
Join the revolution... change the future.
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1169
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:20:00 -
[85] - Quote
I always nanohive spam in skirmish :-D
30 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT
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Code Slucid
Inner.Hell
62
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:10:00 -
[86] - Quote
As a, "True Logi" .... logi sux... and you know it cause of what people use. Rep tool is horrible which make us True Logi needing 2 stick on you guys like hot glue... it worse when your so close 2 a heavy and the heavy get own by a scout and you really have no time 2 react by how close your next to the scout Only logi suit I see worth using are Mini logi (Almost all around suit) and caldari suit for slaying cause of the bonus and maybe gallente as well... Mini (True Logi Suit) Caldari/Gallente (Slayer Suit). I understand what CCP was trying to do... but they screw up logi more then EVER People always ask me.... "Code! Stick to me" My response is "Do you want to win or lose?" <=== I have 2 drop link more then EVER now cause links are horrible... so barely anyone carries link or scanners ( useless unless gallente logi ) To all my logi bro's who left 2 scout/fatty/assault... I wish you luck/fun as us true logi will defend the fort till you return |
EZMAC
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:16:00 -
[87] - Quote
I run the starter medic suit. It is very cheap and I've gotten rather good at reviving. Ever since I started using the medic suit the wins, WP, and ISK just keep rolling in! |
CLONE117
True Pros Forever
750
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:18:00 -
[88] - Quote
i want to see more guys with repair tools and needles. im not a fan of seeing that number that says triage 20-10-4.........50.
mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere...
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
119
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:18:00 -
[89] - Quote
people dont run it because they were only in it to be logi slayer pussies. as for the true logi's they are quite rare.
this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
65
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:27:00 -
[90] - Quote
I would like to point out to the people that sometimes don't get picked up even though you see logis swarming in your area, it isn't that we aren't trying it's that your indicator isn't showing where you actually can be picked up (yes this bug is back and needs to be fixed).
Also, I avoid picking people up that aren't flashing their indicator, unless it is obviously clear, because if it is clear then some random ass blue logi will pick you up; stealing what I consider my 60+12 wp. |
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
188
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:30:00 -
[91] - Quote
Guys ask for a stupid respec, so stay with your ****. This respec have kill the variety of the game.
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4831
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:31:00 -
[92] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:
P.S. Real Scouts dont Brick Tank
Amen +1
Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
66
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:33:00 -
[93] - Quote
Liquid Big Boss wrote:Guys ask for a stupid respect, so stay with your ****. This respect have kill the variety of the game.
You keep using this word respect, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Unless you think it means "an admiration or appreciation of someones character and/or skills". |
Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4618
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:38:00 -
[94] - Quote
I used to be a logibro, then I got tired of my teammates being dumbasses.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1172
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:38:00 -
[95] - Quote
i dropped 3 of the 4 proto logis i used to use for helping others in 1.7 and specced into 1. now that 1 costs twice as much for less effect than what i used to get. plus 1-2 shot by a cloak shotgun scout means i wont ever do any logi roles again with a logi suit.
the logi suit is dead and along with it all those reps,needles etc we used to carry. now we all run with commando or scout using a single piece of equipment.
all those logi haters who insisted logis be nerfed to death had their wish. now there are none. not worth speccing into
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
188
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:40:00 -
[96] - Quote
Orion Sanjeet wrote:Liquid Big Boss wrote:Guys ask for a stupid respect, so stay with your ****. This respect have kill the variety of the game. You keep using this word respect, I don't think it means what you think it means. Unless you think it means "an admiration or appreciation of someones character and/or skills". Might you possibly mean "respec" as in "respecification"?
Lol my bad, smart phone...
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1147
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:40:00 -
[97] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
Min sentinals don't need less HP.
Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running.
Delt for CPM1
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
706
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:10:00 -
[98] - Quote
I run an Amarr logi and honestly there isn't anyone to logi. The match starts, everyone deploys in a scout suit, activates their cloaks and poof, they are all gone. Off to prance and frolic around with their passive scan superiority no doubt. I want to logi people up, I really do. But I can't follow a cloaked scout. I'm not fast enough, and i'm not damp enough. Sure, I can ewar out my suit. I'll see the lazy fake scouts only to get popped by a smart scout.
I've been told as a medium suit now I must "stick with the group". Lol, ok, when you see "the group", point it out to me. Cause all i'm seeing is a bunch of scout running around playing Johnny Rambo. It was a problem when medium suits did this, but it's ok when a scout does it?
Oh well. I'll do what i'm suppose to do. Find a spot, build a nest, and logi up myself. I've got all kinds of goodies. Reps, needles, triage, ammo. If you are 150m away from an objective when you need all that stuff, tough sh*t. You know I can't go out there.
Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood.
Futurama
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Medical Crash
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
248
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:17:00 -
[99] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank Sure thing, but you have to scan for me. If no one scans for me then I WILL bring out my 4x Gal Logi Duvolle Focused suit. If you take care of that then I'll pull out my Minmatar Logi+ Core Repair tool. I HATE getting flanked, too many wannabe crutch scouts running around with cloaks. I promise you a nerf is inbound for cloaks soon, or 4 months.
**Edit
You know what? It's the too low profile,not the cloaks. Buff the Duvolle, lower the cooldown for a bit, increase Scouts profile. ALL suits should be scannable (I'm looking at you Gallente Scout) |
J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
296
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:35:00 -
[100] - Quote
boba's fetta wrote:ive seen why. because dumb heavyies dont look after there logi's they expose the logi to fire when they dont need to. this is what happens when there are so many clueless fat suits around. QFFT, right here. I started as logi first, then went into heavy, so I know exactly what it feels like from both sides. You can't go running your fat ass out into the open, and expect your logi to live long.
Both dedicated heavies and logis should create alts to try the other class out, so they can be more familiar with the pluses and minuses of each playstyle.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
67
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Posted - 2014.04.07 06:09:00 -
[101] - Quote
Liquid Big Boss wrote:Orion Sanjeet wrote:Liquid Big Boss wrote:Guys ask for a stupid respect, so stay with your ****. This respect have kill the variety of the game. You keep using this word respect, I don't think it means what you think it means. Unless you think it means "an admiration or appreciation of someones character and/or skills". Might you possibly mean "respec" as in "respecification"? Lol my bad, smart phone...
Not to worry, I'm a smartass.
I'm here to drop links and rep bitches, and I'm just about outta links.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
623
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Posted - 2014.04.07 06:55:00 -
[102] - Quote
I gave up using my logi suit unless it's requested by a squad mate.
- Spawn
- Pick up two useless bluedots and rep a heavy up
- Get remoted from the roof because the enemy team can't fight without having high ground
Let's try this again
- Spawn
- Instakilled before the map stops rendering by a remote
**** this ****, going back to slaying in my scout suit. It's muuuch more cost effective. STD Scout 10K STD Logi 20K
ADV Scout 26K ADV Logi 56K
PRO Scout 120K PRO Logi 215K <-- This is why you rarely see good logistics players in pubs right now
Mmmm Scout ak.0
Projects: TDBS | SDETool
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
695
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:03:00 -
[103] - Quote
THUNDERGROOVE wrote:I gave up using my logi suit unless it's requested by a squad mate.
- Spawn
- Pick up two useless bluedots and rep a heavy up
- Get remoted from the roof because the enemy team can't fight without having high ground
Let's try this again
- Spawn
- Instakilled before the map stops rendering by a remote
**** this ****, going back to slaying in my scout suit. It's muuuch more cost effective. STD Scout 10K STD Logi 20K ADV Scout 26K ADV Logi 56K PRO Scout 120K PRO Logi 215K <-- This is why you rarely see good logistics players in pubs right now
Hey it was just upstairs, not the roof.
Fixing swarms
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Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
5
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:32:00 -
[104] - Quote
I'm still out there doing my job.
Though I'd really appreciate it if you all stop assuming I'm going to be stupid enough to follow you into the line of fire cus you got another thing coming.
Here's a few tips:
- My reps can't go round corners - if you take the corner too sharp I have to go wide to keep it on you, getting into the line of fire and I will die. - (following on from 1st) My reps won't make you god. You still have to peek corners. - If your safe and being repped then ******* stay there. I'm not chasing you across the whole goddamned map. - You see the yellow? you need reps or ammo? then why not come to me for a change, shake things up a bit. - No I am not going to take point. Are you out of your mind?!? this **** is expensive. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
701
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:41:00 -
[105] - Quote
I'm not supposed to use a rep tool or nanite injector on a gal suit according to the new suit bonuses.. Gallente and amarr should be armor repair tools not minmatar but who knows what ccp is thinking anymore. have ccp fix logis
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
626
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:46:00 -
[106] - Quote
Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Hey it was just upstairs, not the roof.
Upstairs, roof, close enough. My logi suit is still too expensive
Mmmm Scout ak.0
Projects: TDBS | SDETool
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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
You wanna see more dedicated medics? Then fucken give them some respect! Cover their ass keep those assholes off their back! Stop expecting them to run out and pick your dumbass up with 16 guys shooting over your ******** corpse! Stop expecting one guy to kill all 16 of those guys AND pick you up before your timer or a stray bullet offs you. And for the love of anything you might consider holy stop bitching about them being OP! Waaaaa! they get more WP then me but don't kill As much! Yeah they actually might get less if YOU didn't get shot so much!
Sorry rant over.
I am nobody.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
604
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:48:00 -
[108] - Quote
I'll be there shortly.
*grabs rusty needle
You've had a tetanus shot right?
We can pickle that.
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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
54
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Posted - 2014.04.07 08:03:00 -
[109] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:I'll be there shortly.
*grabs rusty needle
You've had a tetanus shot right?
okay doctor zed
I am nobody.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
888
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:10:00 -
[110] - Quote
Did I just read a thread about real logis? The community is improving, I hope that CCP will follow. |
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bear90211
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
193
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:12:00 -
[111] - Quote
there are a few hundred logi's out there. meet one and squad with him. that simple bro.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
514
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:32:00 -
[112] - Quote
Majikthies wrote:I'm still out there doing my job.
Though I'd really appreciate it if you all stop assuming I'm going to be stupid enough to follow you into the line of fire cus you got another thing coming.
Here's a few tips:
- My reps can't go round corners - if you take the corner too sharp I have to go wide to keep it on you, getting into the line of fire and I will die. - (following on from 1st) My reps won't make you god. You still have to peek corners. - If your safe and being repped then ******* stay there. I'm not chasing you across the whole goddamned map. - You see the yellow? you need reps or ammo? then why not come to me for a change, shake things up a bit. - No I am not going to take point. Are you out of your mind?!? this **** is expensive. THIS. I've been a logi since closed beta. I'm still a logi. i TRY to be a good logibro, but if YOU keep RUNNING AWAY from the beam, keep dying alone on the other side of the map and keep suiciding when i'm 10m from you i'll be a bit pissed. If you need rep/ammo come to me and shoot/melee me. I can't know everything and can't be everywhere.
IF YOU WANT LOGI SUPPORT STAY NEAR THE LOGI, we can't help you if you run on the other side of the map as soon as you spawn.
and this too:
dullrust wrote: You wanna see more dedicated medics? Then fucken give them some respect! Cover their ass keep those assholes off their back! Stop expecting them to run out and pick your dumbass up with 16 guys shooting over your ******** corpse! Stop expecting one guy to kill all 16 of those guys AND pick you up before your timer or a stray bullet offs you. And for the love of anything you might consider holy stop bitching about them being OP! Waaaaa! they get more WP then me but don't kill As much! Yeah they actually might get less if YOU didn't get shot so much!
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
560
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:30:00 -
[113] - Quote
Give me SP... I'm saving up for one now, but God damn, the SP!!!
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
\
Omni-Specialist
/ Focus: Gallente
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KGB Sleep
1003
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:50:00 -
[114] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank
I'll spend some Caldari FW points on the nice injectors.
You're welcome whoever gets them.
And no i don't revive in firefights.
Because beer, that's why.
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Jimmy McNaulty
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
65
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:55:00 -
[115] - Quote
I've been a min logi since I started, and the most annoying thing in the world is running at someone who either times out or bleeds out as you are about to get to them, even after you battle like hell.
Logis and needlers need to be able to see what is left on the countdown timer, or make a graphic of a heartbeat... more morbid, but makes it easier to tell roughly how far gone someone is |
Jimmy McNaulty
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
65
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:58:00 -
[116] - Quote
also, the rep needle NEEDS greater encouragement. We need to stop this farming WP bullshit with the basic needle and then repping. If it can be coded that you get the WP triage bonus in addition to the revive automatically it would, overnight, result in people running the better needles.
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Decimel
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.04.08 15:06:00 -
[117] - Quote
I'm a dedicated logi but it's a thankless task.
Expensive suits, easy deaths and every corp expects you to keep a K/d ratio equal to there slayers. |
TcuBe3
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
397
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Posted - 2014.04.08 15:16:00 -
[118] - Quote
The biggest hurdle I see is people worried about K/D with the needle.
In the end, the clone count is what matters not your precious stats.
Dedicated Min Logi.
Biggest issue I have with logis is their inability to defend themselves, you have to have some offensive capability if you want to be a effective squad member. Eliminate the threat before you pull your needle.
CCP Fanboys remind me of the Heaven's Gate cult.
"DON'T DRINK THE COOL AID PEOPLE!"
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1209
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Posted - 2014.04.08 15:33:00 -
[119] - Quote
not coming back until they reduce the cost of equipment
simple as that... logi game is not worth the isk investment anymore
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Doshneil Antaro
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
258
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Posted - 2014.04.08 16:38:00 -
[120] - Quote
I don't see an issue here. Before 1.8 we had a moajority of the players running as logis. Now the suits are more spread out as intended. We still have more logis than what we had pre chrome through to the end of it.
As far as the equipment "nerfs", they were not that. They were equipment balances. Being a logi should require skill and intelligence. Every placed equipment should be strategic and necessary. Not just dump and forget.
The repper is a powerful tool, and is easy to master. Using one should not grant the logi and heavy easy mode. It is a high risk high reward for both the repper as well as the repped, as it should be.
Sage /thread
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1210
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:16:00 -
[121] - Quote
why fit a logi anymore
there is absolutely no reason at all to run logi except to spam. in which case you can now spam better than ever before and switch out to a commando medic to fill in the gaps for much less than running logi suits. kind of makes logis pointless as far as i'm concerned.
my entire role has been made pointless.
start game in a scout suit with uplinks. die or change out to commando with proto hives die or change out into a commando with a rep tool
i can die in all 3 of those suits for the price of my logi carrying the same equipment yet i can get far more kills and survive for a hell of alot longer than a logi suit can with any of them.
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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EverNub
Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION
39
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:21:00 -
[122] - Quote
Been running my commando suit for the event with a sidearm to get extra SP and free suits! but usualy i will run my Caldari Logi with Wyrmki Hives Wyrmki Needle and Gauged Hives for ammo. Usually a great logi build for **** ton of WP's but not il event is over!
What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over?
30 Mil SP Commando/Logi Grandmaster
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21yrOld Knight
Proficiency V.
660
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:22:00 -
[123] - Quote
The price for a logi suit is too damn high!
Mike Ruan Said i was Dust Famous
DNS first to use game theory.
Shadow of the feature is gone due to no worries.
Deal.
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MythTanker
GunFall Mobilization
4
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:26:00 -
[124] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:im getting tired of no one running logi/medic and carrying nanite injecters to revive me or fellow team mates. i know you guys are FOTM type of people but come on, its bad enough that we have Wannabe Scouts brick tanking and brick tanked commando's and sentinals wondering about.
i for one dont mind heavies getting less HP now that i have played with them a bit more. (fighting them) now i can kill you faster with my shotgun.
P.S. Real Scout dont Brick Tank Hey dont bad mouth us sentinels, we have done nothing wrong. Our HP defines our role.
Heavies are OP? Say that to the buisness end of my HMG you peasent.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1210
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:27:00 -
[125] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:The price for a logi suit is too damn high!
they need to drop the cost by 50% at least. then at least we will get a comparable cost to all the other suits
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
69
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Posted - 2014.04.11 06:08:00 -
[126] - Quote
ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:why fit a logi anymore
there is absolutely no reason at all to run logi except to spam. in which case you can now spam better than ever before and switch out to a commando medic to fill in the gaps for much less than running logi suits. kind of makes logis pointless as far as i'm concerned.
my entire role has been made pointless.
start game in a scout suit with uplinks. die or change out to commando with proto hives die or change out into a commando with a rep tool
i can die in all 3 of those suits for the price of my logi carrying the same equipment yet i can get far more kills and survive for a hell of alot longer than a logi suit can with any of them.
And this means that another non-dedicated logi has been filtered out. Logibro for life, and this is a suit (currently Minmatar) that is in no way obsolete, granted the proto can get expensive, however just running my advanced suit, my equipment being adv needle, Viziam flux link, Six Kin triage repair tool, I was able to bump my wallet today alone (no pc earnings) by 4 mil. isk. Let the blues and greens occasionally carry their own damn bullets, that **** gets expensive carrying all four items.
A little advice for the rest of you aspiring logibros.
-Don't screw with the core focused anymore, the reward no longer out weigh the risks e.g. suits losing some of their survivability and and the total reps being reduced, having to be that close anymore just isn't worth it if you don't have the staying power we used to. (CCP please give some kind of damage resistance or passive reps to someone using the rep tool, wishful thinking I know but... pretty please?
-Advanced (dropsuit) is good enough for almost any pub match. use to equipment I mentioned earlier with your min logi and you should be golden (Viziam Flux Up-link, 50% or 80% injector never use the 30%, and Six Kin Triage or Republic Boundless Repair tool), but NEVER drop a link just to farm points, all you are doing at that point is giving logis a bad name, if your link turns bad drop two in a new SAFE location because a bad link is YOUR(the logis) fault, and trust me, you will get more point from a good link than a bad one.
-A logibros hierarchy of priorities are as follows, 1. Your heavy, never let off the reps without telling them (or closest thing to it, though it ALWAYS has to be armors tanked to some degree, armor is teamwork, shields are just flying a big 'ol F U to a logi) 2. Your squadmates 3. Links 4. People that need revived (you can revive more people by having your weapon (your heavy) kill all the enemies) 5. Hacking, a logibro is not a hacker, a logibro is a wielder of a sentient weapons, act like it.
-!!! MOST IMPORTANT !!! A MIC AND A HEAVY THAT CAN AT LEAST HEAR YOU. Talk to your heavy, if reps are up tell the people BY NAME that they are "up" meaning reps up, if you drop reps or are about to TELL THEM, if you see an enemy close TELL THEM USING THEIR DIRECTIONS e.g. "Red behind the box to >your< left" "scout behind you, I'm down, no reps".
-Treat bullets like what they are, something that should be hitting cover and not you, learn to crouch, learn your cover, and learn how to rep from all those locations.
I'm here to drop links and rep bitches, and I'm just about outta links.
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
417
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Posted - 2014.04.11 06:13:00 -
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Why should I run a logi suit with 70,000 Isk in equipment alone just to follow people into an installation to get killed by a bunch brick tanked sentinels with HMGs who then subsequently destroy what I just put out? Unless my squad really needs it or we need links, I'm not going to until the fricken heavy spam ceases. Until then I'm just going to keep running my scout and killing them with REs and shotguns.
Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.11 06:15:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Why should I run a logi suit with 70,000 Isk in equipment alone just to follow people into an installation to get killed by a bunch brick tanked sentinels with HMGs who then subsequently destroy what I just put out? Unless my squad really needs it or we need links, I'm not going to until the fricken heavy spam ceases. Until then I'm just going to keep running my scout and killing them with REs and shotguns.
Again, logis wield sentient weapons called heavies, go find a better weapon.
I'm here to drop links and rep bitches, and I'm just about outta links.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.11 06:18:00 -
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^^^ what he said. I can fit a nice solid Logi A/1 for about 40-60k, depending on what I'm doing with it, and be quite effective. You can run that in pubs all day long at a reasonable profit. I run it in Amarr FW too, I die more but whatever.
Logi is still viable, you just need to be smarter with your fittings and even more oblivious to your KDR than in the past. (#fakelogiexodus)
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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