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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:56:00 -
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Agree with OP 100%. A heavy nerf, especially one so high, is ******* stupid. CCP is obviously insane: they keep doing the same dumb **** over and over and expect different results. Some players actually have SKILL. Those without it are the ones complaining about heavies.
I've seen plenty of heavies today, and I've seen them get mowed down from range by assaults and up close by scouts. Heavies are not overpowered at all. They are perfect. If people think that an HMG heavy should lose a CQC fight to an assault, they need to go play a different game. Heavies should always win a 1-on-1 CQC battle.
CCP should at least make an effort to learn from their mistakes ffs.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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martinofski
Onsencaliss
327
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:57:00 -
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After I left in 1.3 after getting tired I was turned around with ease and my HMG shooting rainbows, I kinda enjoyed they made it a usable suit when I returned playing in 1.7.
Not sure if the reason we see more heavies right now in 1.8 is cause by them behing OP or more just a fact CP gave a respec to dropsuit and the heavy have 3 new suits. I guess we see more scout as well isn't it? Oh that's right, we don't see them anymore. If that isn't a new heavy counter option....
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
26
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:00:00 -
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I approve this thread
Amarr Victor
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Spectre-M
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:12:00 -
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They seem fine. Couple SG rounds or REs and nades work.
Was seeing a lot of different stuff on the field. Loved it.
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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plaplapla
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
19
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:16:00 -
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1711
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:18:00 -
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My first 8 months of Dust were dedicated to being a Heavy. As of this patch, I feel as if they are in a good place. Anything within 15m of my direct FoV gets shredded easily. However, any enemy fighting me with a CR, RR, AR, or ScR from a distance of around 40m will take the win unless I try to close the distance.
We are not invincible and we really only specialize in one thing: CQC. CCP's decision to nerf Heavy eHP is absurd. We're not a problem. Yes, we may be hard to kill but there are tons of ways to go about on putting us down.
On my Scout, anything that is not a Gallente Proto Heavy is easy game for me. They're slow enough for me to get the jump on them with a few well placed Shotgun hits to the face. Against my CR wielding Logi, Heavies pose little threat unless backed by another player, but in solo engagements, they crumple if I fight them tactically. |
Subject 36
Pradox One Proficiency V.
110
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:33:00 -
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BUMP :D
Riding a Horse to Victory
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1167
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:33:00 -
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We can do this; We must be heard. Let not one heavy suffer! Make your voice heard. Say It loud and say it proud! Don't nerf My HEAVY, It just got a new paint job
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5371
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:37:00 -
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Even though I don't agree to a ground nerf you do have flawed math.
Your point: "With these numbers now CCP wants to nerf the heavy EHP by 20% which will in fact make it like there where no changes to heavies and put them back in uprising 1.7 level."
That's 20% less EHP compared to the current stats.
20% of number "x" is completely different from number "y"
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1712
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:38:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:We can do this; We must be heard. Let not one heavy suffer! Make your voice heard. Say It loud and say it proud! Don't nerf My HEAVY, It just got a new paint job DON'T NERF MY HEAVY! |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7765
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:40:00 -
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While most heavies didn't pose a challenge, I did encounter a heavy that took 4 point blank shotgun shots, before he turned around and absolutely melted me.
I'm still mad about it, considering it was my only death in a 50 kills match.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
625
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:While most heavies didn't pose a challenge, I did encounter a heavy that took 4 point blank shotgun shots, before he turned around and absolutely melted me.
I'm still mad about it, considering it was my only death in a 50 kills match.
Then you hopped on your unicorn and flew into the sunset towards your next battle, where you cloned an entire enemy team of 16 mercs solo and prevented them from capping a single objective through the power of smooth jazz.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1167
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:While most heavies didn't pose a challenge, I did encounter a heavy that took 4 point blank shotgun shots, before he turned around and absolutely melted me.
I'm still mad about it, considering it was my only death in a 50 kills match.
Shotguns have a hit detection bug. I Shot a std cad assault 5 times and only the third registered and I died. He either awful at the game or panicked. Safe to say shotgun has some hit detection issues.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
150
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:49:00 -
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It is not a nerf at all, the heavy dropsuits were buffed by almost the same amount a year ago.
Well Done CCP :)
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
163
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:51:00 -
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Heavies are barely balanced this build twig men are OP you are insane to think heavies are OP but lol I'm a scout now so cheers.
G0DS AM0NG MEN Director
1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1167
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:52:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Even though I don't agree to a ground nerf you do have flawed math.
Your point: "With these numbers now CCP wants to nerf the heavy EHP by 20% which will in fact make it like there where no changes to heavies and put them back in uprising 1.7 level."
That's 20% less EHP compared to the current stats.
20% of number "x" is completely different from number "y"
The only difference heavies have now is the damage resistances. Their HP is no different. If you looked at the stats, the HP justgot juggled around on a per race basis.
For example, they too from the shield of the amarr sentinel to put the same amount of HP on The armor. The pverall HP is exactly the same and is only modified by slot layouts with maximum armor potential going to gallente by a small margin but That HP is not more than what was possible on the 1.7 amarr sentinel.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
320
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:05:00 -
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Nerf the heavy, and I am done with this fracking game. I always said when I get a ps4 I would stop playing Dust if it was still a load of bullcrap. Well I got a PS4, but I am still playing bullcrap. 2 years of BS CCP... 2 years of patch this, break that, add content, but don't fix the old, buff this, nerf that........ENOUGH!!! I have only recently discovered the joys of running heavy and this is the only thing that has slightly renewed my interest in Dust. (see an option to respec once in a while to renew interest in players for trying different things would be great for the life of dust but nooooooo, ccp is so stuck up in their narrow minded way of thinking, that will never happen.) You think Dust is the only game of it's kind? It will be outdated and other games will have done it better by the time ccp get basic gameplay right. I am writting this in anguish of frustration, ccp takes a step forward with an update and manages to take 2 steps back...over, and over, and over... I really had hopes for this game, darn I want it to be good so bad which is why I am so angry... But frustration after frustration makes me realise: is this really worth it? So I say it again, mess with my heavy, and you can add another chromosome vet to the list of M.I.A.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
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I feed on tanker tears...
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7765
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:10:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:While most heavies didn't pose a challenge, I did encounter a heavy that took 4 point blank shotgun shots, before he turned around and absolutely melted me.
I'm still mad about it, considering it was my only death in a 50 kills match. Then you hopped on your unicorn and flew into the sunset towards your next battle, where you cloned an entire enemy team of 16 mercs solo and prevented them from capping a single objective through the power of smooth jazz. ... That sounds like an 80's show to be honest
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1172
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:42:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Nerf the heavy, and I am done with this fracking game. I always said when I get a ps4 I would stop playing Dust if it was still a load of bullcrap. Well I got a PS4, but I am still playing bullcrap. 2 years of BS CCP... 2 years of patch this, break that, add content, but don't fix the old, buff this, nerf that........ENOUGH!!! I have only recently discovered the joys of running heavy and this is the only thing that has slightly renewed my interest in Dust. (see an option to respec once in a while to renew interest in players for trying different things would be great for the life of dust but nooooooo, ccp is so stuck up in their narrow minded way of thinking, that will never happen.) You think Dust is the only game of it's kind? It will be outdated and other games will have done it better by the time ccp get basic gameplay right. I am writting this in anguish of frustration, ccp takes a step forward with an update and manages to take 2 steps back...over, and over, and over... I really had hopes for this game, darn I want it to be good so bad which is why I am so angry... But frustration after frustration makes me realise: is this really worth it? So I say it again, mess with my heavy, and you can add another chromosome vet to the list of M.I.A.
Well this thread is to prevent bad things happening to the heavy.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
167
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:10:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:We can do this; We must be heard. Let not one heavy suffer! Make your voice heard. Say It loud and say it proud! Don't nerf My HEAVY, It just got a new paint job DON'T NERF MY HEAVY! DON'T NERF MY HEAVY!
Pass The A/1 Sauce
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
27
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:21:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ghaz ... they probably did that to keep the number of heavies down and it becoming the FOTY . I have seen far more heavies then ever and I'm sure with the tempo and info CCP understood that so changing a few things for them was kind of necessary , to even out the roles and the game so it wouldn't be over saturated with heavies .
You are class act and any info coming from yourself and " The Judge " is valued .
Keep up the good work .
Heavies I respect you a great deal because I am one of you , sometimes but that better than not at all .
It's going to work out in the long run . MORE HEAVYS WAS THE RESALT OF THE HEAVY EVENT MORE PEOPLE STARTED TO PLAY THEM DURING THAT |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1022
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:23:00 -
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I hope not
My Min Sent is good where its at. When against the right weapons I can survive a fair amount of damage but its still a close thing and in no way OP.
BTW - whoever said the Min Sent would be good against blaster tanks.. nope.. but it does fling a mean FG around
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
29
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:30:00 -
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FORM EVERY UPDATE I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE ONLY THING I HAVE LEARNED IS CCP HAS NO CLUE HOW TO BALANCE ANYTHING ! BIG UPDATES THAT CHANGE SEVERAL THINGS DON'T FIX ANYTHING DO TO TOO MEANY THINGS CHANGED THERE IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO SEE HOW ANY 1 THING CHANGED THE GAME BUT HAY CCP KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND DUST WILL BE DEAD SOON AND WE CAN ALL GO PLAY A GAME WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO FIX EVERY THING EVERY 5 TO 6 MOUNTS AND THEY RELEASE SMALL CHANGES EVERY FEW WEEKS. MOST GAMES RELEASE PATCHES FOR BROKEN THINGS ASAP WITH IN A WEEK OR SO OF THE PROBLEM NOT WAITE 6 MOUNTS TO RELEASE FIXES WITH NEW IN-GAME CONTENT. SO MY ADVICE IS TO STOP THE MASS UPDATES ADDING NEW STUFF AND WORK ON SMALL FIXES TO THE BIG PROBLEMS IN THE GAME AND FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME GIVE MED SUITS A REAL AV WEAPON AGIN SWARMS THAT GOT TOO MUCH A NURFF WITH THE TANK FIX WAS A BAD IDEA MY HEAVY SUITS ( DIFF ACCOUNT) COST MORE THEN MOST TANKS THAT SHOW UP IN THE GAME NOW AND SO DO A MED SUIT WITH PROTO SWARMS |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1108
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:39:00 -
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well like one of my posts i said that this is probably one of the fastest nerf in dust history.
our heavy suit hasnt even been out for a whole day and its already going to be nerfed to s-hit. and at 20% EHP nerf? is there a point in having minmatar heavies?
its like CCP has a monkey as the chief of the nerf department. some of these nerfs dont even make sense
we're already dying as fast as before and now the nerf will make us die even faster, its like before 1.7 where the HMG just tickles the enemy's armor. now if this nerf goes through then the heavy will just be a giant walking marshmellow
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Laurade Eve
D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN
2
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:46:00 -
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DON'T NERF MY HEAVY! |
DeathhtaeD
Dust-Cloud
56
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:54:00 -
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This cant be happening, CCP!! Listen to the community, to the people that actually knows what they arr talking about. Do NOT nerf heavies!
I have actually not skilled into anything yet, because I would like to know if the nerf is happening or not. Dont make me choose a different suit, because it will be unusable to be a heavy... |
castba
Penguin's March
350
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I've been watching my brother play and all afternoon he's been eating heavies like Homer Simpson at a Dunkin' Donuts convention.
It's not that hard people. Just get a Cloak Field, get a Shotgun, and most importantly....
Get Good. Don't even have to be good. My Amarr sentinel got smashed by an FA scout whom hit me with 3 shotgun blasts whilst cloaked.
Been playing on my alt (2.6m SP) and have been taking down Gal heavies with the recruit AR (unskilled) on a gal light frame.
Seriously, I do hope that CCP don't nerf heavies hp. It feels to me that movement and speed are most important in dust now, not necessarily astranomical hp. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1889
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:13:00 -
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Perhaps a 10% HP nerf on sentinels only would be in order.
Commandos do not need less HP. I think their HP should be buffed by 10% actually.
Drop it like its hat.
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Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
167
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:21:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Perhaps a 10% HP nerf on sentinels only would be in order.
Commandos do not need less HP. I think their HP should be buffed by 10% actually. The whole point of this thread is that heavies are fine the way they are. Like Ghaz says ANY change in value would break the suit
Pass The A/1 Sauce
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castba
Penguin's March
350
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:25:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Perhaps a 10% HP nerf on sentinels only would be in order.
Commandos do not need less HP. I think their HP should be buffed by 10% actually. Whilst I disagree it is needed, IF an hp nerf has to happen, would it not make sense to have the 10% reduction applied to the non-favoured tank? Amarr lose 10% shield hp, caldari lost 10% armour hp, gal and min lose 5% to both.
Would that not be more logical IF a nerf HAD to happen? |
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