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Traky78 What The French Red Whines 554	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:44:00 - [1] - Quote Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ? I'll repeat again : What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules ! We'll fight for our newbs ! CEO of What The French.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3038	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:14:00 - [2] - Quote Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. 2426	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:16:00 - [3] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P lol Listen I'll change the song every week
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2432	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:18:00 - [4] - Quote Please Address your concerns to the PFC council in matters of land ownership. ERA/ NF is simply executing orders derived from the council. I suggest maybe an open petition to the council or general public, but certainly not Kain or NF. As stated above, we're fulfilling a contract, and until the council tells us otherwise, the attack will follow through. Thank you for your time. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 557	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:19:00 - [5] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P Are you trying to be trash ? CEO of What The French.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1634	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:20:00 - [6] - Quote For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote Traky78 wrote: Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ? I'll repeat again : What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules ! We'll fight for our newbs ! If you go to Top mens website and speak to Soyara you can properly discuss the details. But please understand ERA is just the muscle here - not the brains. If we were to back off from hitting the WTFA guys after council told us to do so we'd be undermining the entire point of the council. :\ Quote: If you git all up in Top mens joint n' drop a rhyme ta Soyara you can properly say **** bout tha details. But please KNOW ERA is just tha muscle here - not tha domes. If we was ta back off from hittin tha WTFA muthafuckas afta council holla'd at our asses ta do so we'd be underminin tha entire point of tha council. :\ Hope you git all up in ta em.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 516	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:23:00 - [8] - Quote Traky78 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137603 ALERT ALERT, calling out DDB and AE. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102455 Team Players, you've got a thorn in your side https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99275 Message to Team Players and EON. Do all the Quebecers post their grievances publicly? Are you going to make a thread every time you are attacked? Might want to check with the PFC council. Or just give one of your many districts to your training corp.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3039	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:31:00 - [9] - Quote Traky78 wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P Are you trying to be trash ? I dont try, i DO :P seriously tho. Kane has nothing to do with it. We get orders from council decisions and we get paid by acting on those. nothing more, nothing less. but if it makes u feel any better i would have booted your ass to the curb 6 months ago when you attacked STB from your pfc district on meildolf, and then transferred the district the next day to this academy crap. you are lucky my guys got hooked on chocobo breeding or u wouldnt be crying now cause that woulda been long Gone. if anything u should thank kane cause he wouldnt let me attack you the second we moved back onto oddeluf...said it was up to the council waaa waaa QQ. now go make me a baguette with some mustard and a side of gravy. see u saturday buddy. Ill bring some homemade hotsauce and we can swap recipes if it makes ya feel any better You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4517	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:40:00 - [10] - Quote Insert spoon N.F. is now the biggest enemy! Look at what they do! Stir, whip, stir...Taste!

Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 70	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:40:00 - [11] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Traky78 wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P Are you trying to be trash ? I dont try, i DO :P seriously tho. Kane has nothing to do with it. We get orders from council decisions and we get paid by acting on those. nothing more, nothing less. but if it makes u feel any better i would have booted your ass to the curb 6 months ago when you attacked STB from your pfc district on meildolf, and then transferred the district the next day to this academy crap. you are lucky my guys got hooked on chocobo breeding or u wouldnt be crying now cause that woulda been long Gone. if anything u should thank kane cause he wouldnt let me attack you the second we moved back onto oddeluf...said it was up to the council waaa waaa QQ. now go make me a baguette with some mustard and a side of gravy. see u saturday buddy. Ill bring some homemade hotsauce and we can swap recipes if it makes ya feel any better Dude, is New Eden your only accomplishment to your existence?
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 557	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:53:00 - [12] - Quote All those forum warriors just for me. Successful thread indeed ! CEO of What The French.
usuckatdust Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 97	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:54:00 - [13] - Quote Traky78 wrote: Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ? I'll repeat again : What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules ! We'll fight for our newbs ! Traky, I'll message you in game in about 3 hours, ill be off work then. I would like to help out.
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 557	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:58:00 - [14] - Quote usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote: Traky78 wrote: Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ? I'll repeat again : What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules ! We'll fight for our newbs ! Traky, I'll message you in game in about 3 hours, ill be off work then. I would like to help out. Thanks bro but we'll kick their asses alone CEO of What The French.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2915	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:01:00 - [15] - Quote The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This end has been paved with your own decisions. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 557	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:04:00 - [16] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Traky78 wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Wash behind your ears, rinse, repeat. doesnt matter. You got voted off the island by a panel of your peers Dont blame kain, blame your females for not shaving their legs. O and the council :P Are you trying to be trash ? I dont try, i DO :P seriously tho. Kane has nothing to do with it. We get orders from council decisions and we get paid by acting on those. nothing more, nothing less. but if it makes u feel any better i would have booted your ass to the curb 6 months ago when you attacked STB from your pfc district on meildolf, and then transferred the district the next day to this academy crap. you are lucky my guys got hooked on chocobo breeding or u wouldnt be crying now cause that woulda been long Gone. if anything u should thank kane cause he wouldnt let me attack you the second we moved back onto oddeluf...said it was up to the council waaa waaa QQ. now go make me a baguette with some mustard and a side of gravy. see u saturday buddy. Ill bring some homemade hotsauce and we can swap recipes if it makes ya feel any better Yes, this little war against STB was fun and we had really no choice that use our PFC one. Also Sandwitch Baguette FTW CEO of What The French.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 489	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:06:00 - [17] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This is why the council is a bad idea i feel. Now people can be voted off of PFC because their main corp has district outside of PFC but what about alliance members that hold district outside of PFC isn't that the same thing? Another reason why i feel that the council is a bad idea is because is because it just seems like corps are setting up to stay longer on PFC then they should be allowed The new CEO of FA
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 558	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:14:00 - [18] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This end has been paved with your own decisions. Yes Kain, i refused cause WTFA really doesn't need some sort of protection so why paid something we dont need. I enjoy all the purpose of the council but you can't force people to pay. CEO of What The French.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:20:00 - [19] - Quote Kain and his PFC puppets strike again. with sota and cubs sniffing his backside.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:20:00 - [20] - Quote Traky78 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This end has been paved with your own decisions. Yes Kain, i refused cause WTFA really doesn't need some sort of protection so why paid something we dont need. I enjoy all the purpose of the council but you can't force people to pay. Taky you were doing so well in the meta department in getting your point across till this post. Keep the 'we' out of your statements. Make it seem like WTFA is just an extensional body of peers - and not an actual extension of your corp. In that sense - it's just a corp you baby, and not a body to be considered a part of your own. In that regard WTFA would potentially be acceptable in PFC, as WTF holds no obligations to give them any sort of PC training. The debate wether or not corps like WTFA are acceptable is mostly based on wether or not they could survive without PFC. If they can - they should do so. If they can't - welcome to PFC.

Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 218	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:24:00 - [21] - Quote Kain is cleaning house, nothing wrong with that. WTFrench had 12 districts? Come on now. I'm glad there are reasonable players keeping PFC in check.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 516	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:25:00 - [22] - Quote I think this matter is between WTF and the PFC council. Kane has expressed OUR justification sufficiently.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:31:00 - [23] - Quote FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 516	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:35:00 - [24] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: xMaggot Brainx Was in a corp, where the founder left to join DDB. Assuming DDB alt.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1634	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:41:00 - [25] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. Actually, he solicited people's opinions on what should be done about PFC. I'm one of the people who heavily proposed community enforcement. Spero provides the brute force that backs it up. The Council has been voting regularly on implementing a cohesive set of rules, and the Council also votes whether or not to remove corps when they're perceived to violate those rules. Spero does not have a vote. (Neither do I, actually.) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1215	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:05:00 - [26] - Quote Traky78 wrote: Yes, this little war against STB was fun and we had really no choice that use our PFC one. Not looking to start anything just what to point out the fact that WTF came to us asking for a truce when they ran out of ISK because they lost 90% of the battles. All intense fun fights but when you say little war don't forget who won that war. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 834	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:14:00 - [27] - Quote enjoying this thread so far *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 515	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:34:00 - [28] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. This is the end of the thread. WTF has enough resources to provide WTFA plenty of PC experience.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 490	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:38:00 - [29] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. Actually, he solicited people's opinions on what should be done about PFC. I'm one of the people who heavily proposed community enforcement. Spero provides the brute force that backs it up. The Council has been voting regularly on implementing a cohesive set of rules, and the Council also votes whether or not to remove corps when they're perceived to violate those rules. Spero does not have a vote. (Neither do I, actually.) but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council The new CEO of FA
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1635	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:44:00 - [30] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1275	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:55:00 - [31] - Quote At least NF has a "purpose." Everyone else is just farming for the sake of farming. Can't hate 'em because there's only so much to do but it's still kinda depressing. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 490	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:00:00 - [32] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow The new CEO of FA
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 328	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:07:00 - [33] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Traky78 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137603 ALERT ALERT, calling out DDB and AE. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102455 Team Players, you've got a thorn in your side https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99275 Message to Team Players and EON. Do all the Quebecers post their grievances publicly? Are you going to make a thread every time you are attacked? Might want to check with the PFC council. Or just give one of your many districts to your training corp. just so you know WTF are not quebecers, they from France Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 339	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:20:00 - [34] - Quote IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 339	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:22:00 - [35] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. This is the end of the thread. WTF has enough resources to provide WTFA plenty of PC experience. Like this guy. You have no say in what they do. You are just an enforcer, correct?
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:41:00 - [36] - Quote Please clarify, PFC is to train corps for PC but PC is pretty much locked?
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:42:00 - [37] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff.
NobIesse Oblige Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 154	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:42:00 - [38] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff. lol I'm CEO, Bitch Incentivizing n00bs to carry me cir.12/13
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1906	Posted - 2014.03.07 07:38:00 - [39] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Insert spoon N.F. is now the biggest enemy! Look at what they do! Stir, whip, stir...Taste! awe I miss drunken Taste. Also you are just jelly you are in the baddie corp anymore. [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1906	Posted - 2014.03.07 07:41:00 - [40] - Quote usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote: Traky78 wrote: Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ? I'll repeat again : What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules ! We'll fight for our newbs ! Traky, I'll message you in game in about 3 hours, ill be off work then. I would like to help out. Thought you guys were busy losing your own districts? Now you want to help other people lose too? Don't you have better things to do? [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me

Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1635	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:00:00 - [41] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I do actually make a distinct point NOT to talk to my alliance members on the Council about the Council. We call a vote when there's three or more people pushing for the same action. Doesn't matter which Council members they are, or whether or not I agree with it. They vote their own opinions, and get no special treatment. bigolenuts wrote: IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts. He's a non-voting participant on the board. Technically he isn't "on the Council", but he needs to be present to interact with Council members. Krixus Flux wrote: If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff. My posts here (except for maybe the original PFC Council thread post) aren't really official. It's just my opinions, plus facts that I know because I can see what's going on. My statements doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the Council. I did step in and clarify though that WTFA was voted out by the Council, which is a fact. And a statement of the Council's opinion, I suppose. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 339	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:48:00 - [42] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I do actually make a distinct point NOT to talk to my alliance members on the Council about the Council. We call a vote when there's three or more people pushing for the same action. Doesn't matter which Council members they are, or whether or not I agree with it. They vote their own opinions, and get no special treatment. bigolenuts wrote: IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts. He's a non-voting participant on the board. Technically he isn't "on the Council", but he needs to be present to interact with Council members. Krixus Flux wrote: If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff. My posts here (except for maybe the original PFC Council thread post) aren't really official. It's just my opinions, plus facts that I know because I can see what's going on. My statements doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the Council. I did step in and clarify though that WTFA was voted out by the Council, which is a fact. And a statement of the Council's opinion, I suppose. No, he shouldn't be involved. He should just get orders. There is no interaction needed except to get orders like a little puppy dog.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:52:00 - [43] - Quote Please, be aware that the term 'secretary' was used in it's own context and is in no way involved with the duty or workload of the PFC's Council Administrator. Continue as you were, peasants.
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1673	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:08:00 - [44] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This end has been paved with your own decisions. So, what happens if Escrow fails? What happens when you start picking on people who can actually stand up to you? Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
weccer Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:03:00 - [45] - Quote 8213 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused. This end has been paved with your own decisions. So, what happens if Escrow fails? What happens when you start picking on people who can actually stand up to you? Idk, just ask your alliance. They seem to be doing very well right now.
olssam 62 What The French 84	Posted - 2014.03.07 10:57:00 - [46] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Traky78 wrote: Yes, this little war against STB was fun and we had really no choice that use our PFC one. Not looking to start anything just what to point out the fact that WTF came to us asking for a truce when they ran out of ISK because they lost 90% of the battles. All intense fun fights but when you say little war don't forget who won that war. we took one district, almost 2 your call almost any public disorder to lock our districts your ceo came to talk to us and ask us to stop this attack and he gave us one district. here is the true story ERA good luck for Saturday. give them 8 million isk for their services ... let me laugh the pfc is officially dead an alliance that wants to make isk on the backs of small and medium corporations ... fortunately what the french is the fight against corruption imposed some players here. dsl my translation version fr ERA bonne chance pour samedi. leurs donner 8 millions d'isk pour avoir leurs services... laissez moi rire le pfc est officiellement mort une alliance qui veut se faire de l'isk sur le dos des corporations petites et moyennes... heureusement que what the french est la pour lutter contre la corruption qu'impose certains joueurs ici. dsl de ma traduction Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
smartlayer What The French Red Whines 45	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:10:00 - [47] - Quote BTW.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsg8JccRZCw
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3042	Posted - 2014.03.07 13:12:00 - [48] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty. heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night. no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush. #tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 492	Posted - 2014.03.07 13:21:00 - [49] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty. heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night. no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush. #tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo Not in the PC last night so have no idea what you are talking about, all I'm saying is this council thing seems like they are taking there time to set up the rules when it is the simplest thing to do i can set up rules for PFC in one to two days that will be easy and simple to follow. District we never took what are you talking about? Wow we lost a PC last night too big deal The new CEO of FA
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3045	Posted - 2014.03.07 16:44:00 - [50] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty. heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night. no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush. #tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo Not in the PC last night so have no idea what you are talking about, all I'm saying is this council thing seems like they are taking there time to set up the rules when it is the simplest thing to do i can set up rules for PFC in one to two days that will be easy and simple to follow. District we never took what are you talking about? Wow we lost a PC last night too big deal edit: This thing about our timers never gets old, oh they are unfair to us its not our fault the majority of NS players are from Japan and heres the funny thing you never here our japanese players say anything about timers unfair to them, and i have said this in previous post that if our timers where in the majority of people's playing time we would have no were near the number of district NS has right now not what im saying.. I AM saying NS took roughly 17% of what they own. the other 83% were simply with their clones, then moved to the timer that no one cares to mess with. I wasn't there last night either, and im not talking about the district my guys required 2 matches to flip a hub with NS defending (good job Nyain.. KEQ can do better than that FYI) Im talking about the fact that you cant defend a single district at a time, let alone 61. its unfortunate this idiotic community doesn't just send a pile of clone packs at you and take yo $hit. we did, but my guys valued sleep way more than waking up to play a LoL match vs Nyain Scrubs why u think u have land? lucky for u, you guys pay well, which is basically the unsung STB model. that's ok this is just another shining example that NS have been bandwagon nobodies since the beginning. well ill correct myself, you were only SEMI-nobodies when Dia Farron still played, him with milkman made NS at least somewhat competitive. #TankSpams4SiSSieS You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche

Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 465	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:13:00 - [51] - Quote I'm confused... GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up. Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out??? Idk... All I know is I like this thread. Screw popcorn, pass the seasoned curly fries with hotwings. CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 758	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:16:00 - [52] - Quote Point on the Doll where the tank touched you Cubs :-D Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1641	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:23:00 - [53] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: I'm confused... GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up. Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out??? The by-and-large difference is that General Tso's is not a particularly integrated alliance. The corps who have PFC districts largely are fighting entirely their own battles. Whereas WTFA's district is half or more WTF members every fight. And WTFA is a training corp for WTF, not just "another corp in the alliance". Sure, the distinction isn't 100% cut and dry, but that's why we have a Council that can vote on these things as a community. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 495	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:25:00 - [54] - Quote But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want? I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers. NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance? A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game The new CEO of FA
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 966	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:46:00 - [55] - Quote While I dont have any dog in this fight, I am interested to see what the French can do. Oh yea and hearing about Nyain Spam getting beat makes me happy =D. Spam artists. No doubt they will go back to stomping new players in pub matches. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution 4969	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:03:00 - [56] - Quote Listen, I be goin ta be tha voice of reason here, What Da Frence. Yo ass have 12 districts outside Planetary Fight Club, I be thinkin it is unreasonable ta have one there ta do yo' hustlin. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Surely you can bust clones from one of yo' nuff districts ta practice, biatch? Or even use tha 'Locked' battlez ta stage a hustlin ground fo' yo' freshly smoked up playas. ISK Milkshakes for all (Except the Pubbies)
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3047	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:06:00 - [57] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want? I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers. NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance? A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game Simple. Nyain has no talnet on their own times. Likely because the japanese games have altered their own gaming times to play when late eu/na are on...u know, where the competition is. the best NS can field can be on at these times, where like u said u cant defend a wet fart underwater in a cave on your own times. Its not humiliating, its just fact. Pubs are more challenging. Put your timers, even only a few at a time, on american times. o thats right, then pfc corps could expand and random pub groups could make a corp and get land. stop defending a corp that has never had any talent aside from 3 people. Havent been able to wipe their own asses without help, and most definitely have no say in what happens in molden heath you just happen to be in the fortunate position of having a greater pile of isk than anyone. you say im wrong? Put your timers on american, see how long they last You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:12:00 - [58] - Quote There is nothing stopping the WTFA from getting their practice in via attacks, is there? That's what we do. Of course, there's an agreement that we won't take the district, but if this is about practice for your newer players, that shouldn't be an issue.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1642	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:14:00 - [59] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Listen, I be goin ta be tha voice of reason here, What Da Frence. When Knight Soiaire is the voice of reason, the thread has ended, and things have gone off the deep end. You can all stop now. o.O I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 495	Posted - 2014.03.07 18:14:00 - [60] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want? I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers. NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance? A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game Simple. Nyain has no talnet on their own times. Likely because the japanese games have altered their own gaming times to play when late eu/na are on...u know, where the competition is. the best NS can field can be on at these times, where like u said u cant defend a wet fart underwater in a cave on your own times. Its not humiliating, its just fact. Pubs are more challenging. Put your timers, even only a few at a time, on american times. o thats right, then pfc corps could expand and random pub groups could make a corp and get land. stop defending a corp that has never had any talent aside from 3 people. Havent been able to wipe their own asses without help, and most definitely have no say in what happens in molden heath you just happen to be in the fortunate position of having a greater pile of isk than anyone. you say im wrong? Put your timers on american, see how long they last Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? The new CEO of FA

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3048	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:01:00 - [61] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 495	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:07:00 - [62] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend Yes NS was in LoI after NF i think they left after Kujo and other left HS then NS rejoined NF i believe then join EoN. after the player bases started to decline because didn't they join after the FEC and that tournament or am i wrong then left EoN. then join Pro V. left that because AE wasn't joining that alliance, so NS left to join RA edit: don't worry I'm sending that 5 million isk i owe The new CEO of FA
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1209	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:09:00 - [63] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend weird part is NS could afford that. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 495	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:12:00 - [64] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend weird part is NS could afford that. We are not that rich The new CEO of FA
iTbagyou Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 235	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:22:00 - [65] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend weird part is NS could afford that. We are not that rich Gets expensive shelling out isk to pay for all those tanks I pop in spambush. Official spokesman of Lipton Tea.
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 584	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:29:00 - [66] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Traky78 wrote: Yes, this little war against STB was fun and we had really no choice that use our PFC one. Not looking to start anything just what to point out the fact that WTF came to us asking for a truce when they ran out of ISK because they lost 90% of the battles. All intense fun fights but when you say little war don't forget who won that war. Are you serious ? Quickgloves come at us to stop this little war when SVER started loosing SVER prime. I dont know what was said to you but this is definitely not the truth. Yes, next time dont try to start something... CEO of What The French.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1209	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:34:00 - [67] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation??? I didn't let NS join EoN. I was never in charge of EoN. plus at the time, NS had only been in NF, had been in NF since early on when, although NF was dominant, no one saw them as the super power in MH (due to them holding low land counts) They joined EoN. when they were on top, left when they just started to go downward, to hop elsewhere. Actually I believe NS was in LoI for a short spell before EoN. doesn't really matter. I never had a say in the matter and tbh don't know which way I woulda went even if I DID have say. that's ok tho. come join NF. I can get you in. Only cost u have your land and a 30bil entry fee and we can get you guys set up quite nicely ;) my loyalty and words can be bought. I want that 12th digit in my wallet so help me get there and ill be your friend weird part is NS could afford that. We are not that rich can't resist. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Traky78 What The French Red Whines 585	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:41:00 - [68] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: I'm confused... GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up. Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out??? The by-and-large difference is that General Tso's is not a particularly integrated alliance. The corps in GTA who have PFC districts largely are fighting entirely their own battles. Whereas WTFA's district is half or more WTF members every fight. And WTFA is a training corp for WTF, not just "another corp in the alliance". Sure, the distinction isn't 100% cut and dry, but that's why we have a Council that can vote on these things as a community. Half or more members of WTF every fight ? This is not the truth. You are loosing credibility here... CEO of What The French.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.03.07 19:43:00 - [69] - Quote I like how this topic got off topic after i posted something about the PFC council and how i feel its not a good idea. Rules are simple for PFC ill list some right now 1.) An attacking corp needs to notify a defending corp if they plan on using ringers 2.) Eve support maybe used but only if agreed upon, just because it a clone pack attack 3.) 1 to 2 month stay on PFC max 4.) An alliance can have only hold two district on PFC at a time 5.) If your alliance holds x amount of district outside PFC you should not be allowed to hold a district on PFC, just what happens in case of a war are the district on PFC open to attack?? 6.) When a corp leaves PFC, they are not allowed to give district to an alliance member see its that simple to come up with rules I have another question I understand why Escrow has a district on PFC, but why does The Rainbow Effect have one they are a good corp and don't understand why they have one The new CEO of FA
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1645	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:18:00 - [70] - Quote Mr Machine Guns, the fact that you have still failed to grasp, all this time later: Is that PFC rules don't affect you, so you have no real reason to care, or keep trying to dictate what those rules are. People who have an invested participation in PFC are agreeing upon the rules of conduct. TRE will be using it for practice matches with other PFC corps. I know our EU side actually is looking forward to getting a chance to face off with them. (I've also been told TRE will be abstaining from voting since they're in N-F.) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:23:00 - [71] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns, the fact that you have still failed to grasp, all this time later: Is that PFC rules don't affect you, so you have no real reason to care, or keep trying to dictate what those rules are. People who have an invested participation in PFC are agreeing upon the rules of conduct. TRE will be using it for practice matches with other PFC corps. I know our EU side actually is looking forward to getting a chance to face off with them. (I've also been told TRE will be abstaining from voting since they're in N-F.) But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other The new CEO of FA
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:33:00 - [72] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to the PFC Council Administrator. The Unbiased non-voting member of PFC council to help drive the PFC cruise ship. Unlike a certain group of players who've been on PFC for ages and did nothing to help it - he's a part of a small corp whose never even past the mid-tier bracket. His vested interest is a sincere one - where as your sudden interest comes off as contrived and with reasons of your own. If you wish to continue speaking about PFC policies than I would like to hear why you're suddenly interested in what people you'll never likely play or speak too do.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1162	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:43:00 - [73] - Quote Because the PFC scenario is keeping his enemy in power and making them some iskies. Rhetorical question, but yeah that's gotta be it.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:44:00 - [74] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to the PFC Council Administrator. The Unbiased non-voting member of PFC council to help drive the PFC cruise ship. Unlike a certain group of players who've been on PFC for ages and did nothing to help it - he's a part of a small corp whose never even past the mid-tier bracket. His vested interest is a sincere one - where as your sudden interest comes off as contrived and with reasons of your own. If you wish to continue speaking about PFC policies than I would like to hear why you're suddenly interested in what people you'll never likely play or speak too do. Im just voicing my opinion on the council and why i think its a bad idea, I understand why they have to pay whatever amount of protection they pay to NF, but it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to come up with rules for PFC when it took me 5 mins to think of those 6 rules i wrote, and i thought the council was not supposed to have permeant members other then NF and he's the one that been rude to me many times for no reason other then me saying my own opinion about the matter The new CEO of FA
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1162	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:45:00 - [75] - Quote blah blah blah isk jealousy blah blah.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 340	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:46:00 - [76] - Quote PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:49:00 - [77] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to the PFC Council Administrator. The Unbiased non-voting member of PFC council to help drive the PFC cruise ship. Unlike a certain group of players who've been on PFC for ages and did nothing to help it - he's a part of a small corp whose never even past the mid-tier bracket. His vested interest is a sincere one - where as your sudden interest comes off as contrived and with reasons of your own. If you wish to continue speaking about PFC policies than I would like to hear why you're suddenly interested in what people you'll never likely play or speak too do. Im just voicing my opinion on the council and why i think its a bad idea, I understand why they have to pay whatever amount of protection they pay to NF, but it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to come up with rules for PFC when it took me 5 mins to think of those 6 rules i wrote, and i thought the council was not supposed to have permeant members other then NF and he's the one that been rude to me many times for no reason other then me saying my own opinion about the matter The problem with your line of thought is your one person deciding for everyone - where as the council is the people deciding for themselves. Of course one process is going to take slower - but so what? Is there any reason at all to speed things up without going through everything first? If you want a system to last you need to work on the kinks. Saying it doesn't work because it's too slow (when the speed of decision isn't even stopping the functioning aspect of PFC) is absurd.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 248	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:50:00 - [78] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. You realize no one listens to you anymore, right? I could copy and paste "PFC doesn't work, I hate my enemies making ISK." And it would fit the sum of your posts each and every time. Lol
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:52:00 - [79] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to the PFC Council Administrator. The Unbiased non-voting member of PFC council to help drive the PFC cruise ship. Unlike a certain group of players who've been on PFC for ages and did nothing to help it - he's a part of a small corp whose never even past the mid-tier bracket. His vested interest is a sincere one - where as your sudden interest comes off as contrived and with reasons of your own. If you wish to continue speaking about PFC policies than I would like to hear why you're suddenly interested in what people you'll never likely play or speak too do. Im just voicing my opinion on the council and why i think its a bad idea, I understand why they have to pay whatever amount of protection they pay to NF, but it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to come up with rules for PFC when it took me 5 mins to think of those 6 rules i wrote, and i thought the council was not supposed to have permeant members other then NF and he's the one that been rude to me many times for no reason other then me saying my own opinion about the matter The problem with your line of thought is your one person deciding for everyone - where as the council is the people deciding for themselves. Of course one process is going to take slower - but so what? Is there any reason at all to speed things up without going through everything first? If you want a system to last you need to work on the kinks. Saying it doesn't work because it's too slow (when the speed of decision isn't even stopping the functioning aspect of PFC) is absurd. But heres the one thing with this slow process i assume your Sota right?? As long as NF gets the money from the corps they could care less about rules being set up in a fair amount of time because they are getting their isk from the corps on PFC The new CEO of FA
ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:53:00 - [80] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. Played quebec united last night, friendly PFC skirmish. We had a great fight and it came down to a few ticks. Sorry don't have pics... but it happened I swear. Thing is, the chances of any corp rising to the stature of the likes of AE or NF or other top tier corps is slim to none at the moment.. Too much saturation of talent to a few corps, and given the nature of competitive FPS gamers, its rare to find one who sticks with a losing team and is ok with that, hoping to get better and one day be able to rival the best of the best. Know what I mean? As far as getting ML some good fights during lockdown, I will say PFC does work in that regard.

ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:56:00 - [81] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. You realize no one listens to you anymore, right? I could copy and paste "PFC doesn't work, I hate my enemies making ISK." And it would fit the sum of your posts each and every time. Lol It doesn't deny the fact that there has never been a corp who literally started out on PFC and rose to become any kind of power in PC in the past. Perhaps this will change in the future and the new system can help that. Perhaps.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.07 20:58:00 - [82] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to the PFC Council Administrator. The Unbiased non-voting member of PFC council to help drive the PFC cruise ship. Unlike a certain group of players who've been on PFC for ages and did nothing to help it - he's a part of a small corp whose never even past the mid-tier bracket. His vested interest is a sincere one - where as your sudden interest comes off as contrived and with reasons of your own. If you wish to continue speaking about PFC policies than I would like to hear why you're suddenly interested in what people you'll never likely play or speak too do. Im just voicing my opinion on the council and why i think its a bad idea, I understand why they have to pay whatever amount of protection they pay to NF, but it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to come up with rules for PFC when it took me 5 mins to think of those 6 rules i wrote, and i thought the council was not supposed to have permeant members other then NF and he's the one that been rude to me many times for no reason other then me saying my own opinion about the matter The problem with your line of thought is your one person deciding for everyone - where as the council is the people deciding for themselves. Of course one process is going to take slower - but so what? Is there any reason at all to speed things up without going through everything first? If you want a system to last you need to work on the kinks. Saying it doesn't work because it's too slow (when the speed of decision isn't even stopping the functioning aspect of PFC) is absurd. But heres the one thing with this slow process i assume your Sota right?? As long as NF gets the money from the corps they could care less about rules being set up in a fair amount of time because they are getting their isk from the corps on PFC That's actually not true. Until PFC gets it's act together we won't be sent out to enforce policies that don't exist yet - and if we aren't sent out on enforcement we don't get paid. NF's interest would be for the council to decide on rules so we can get to work.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:02:00 - [83] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. You realize no one listens to you anymore, right? I could copy and paste "PFC doesn't work, I hate my enemies making ISK." And it would fit the sum of your posts each and every time. Lol It doesn't deny the fact that there has never been a corp who literally started out on PFC and rose to become any kind of power in PC in the past. Perhaps this will change in the future and the new system can help that. Perhaps. lol - PFC has been such a joke up until this point I'm not honestly surprised no corp could of used it to rise to anything. But I can happily inform you there is such a corp out there who graduated from PFC and has a team that could compete with anyone. Men In Black Ops. They gave us some tough fights kicking them off PFC and all there attacks on it - and they were good fights. A corp who can come hard like that should get there own district and join the big leagues officially.
ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:05:00 - [84] - Quote Good to know, Men in Blops is a good squad. And to correct you, NF was sent to police what was supposed to be a friendly match ML setup against The Phoenix Federation about two weeks ago. So I am a bit confused when you would say something like this: Sota wrote: Until PFC gets it's act together we won't be sent out to enforce policies that don't exist yet - and if we aren't sent out on enforcement we don't get paid. NF's interest would be for the council to decide on rules so we can get to work. Clearly you guys have been policing, right? Therefore getting paid to do so, right? Corps have been removed, right? Lets keep it one hundid
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:06:00 - [85] - Quote Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC?? I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, The new CEO of FA
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1645	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:09:00 - [86] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newer corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with AE's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:10:00 - [87] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC?? I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, I'm not on the council, but I do have common sense, so let me try: To define PFC = a place for newer, low tier corporations to get their feet wet and have a soft entrance to the PC aspect of this fine game. Define = WTF, as a corporation, given their ability, power, history, land ownings, etc... clearly they have no business on PFC. Correct so far? If we can agree on those two items, and leave all the other hogwash aside.. who is getting paid, who makes up rules, blah blah blah.. then they rightfully needed to be removed.. not really that hard to comprehend.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1645	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:11:00 - [88] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC?? I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, Actually, the Council revised it's financing agreement with N-F since then. And several rules and policies have been set up. I don't think the Council feels ready to make them a public document yet though. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:13:00 - [89] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC?? I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, Actually, the Council revised it's financing agreement with N-F since then. And several rules and policies have been set up. I don't think the Council feels ready to make them a public document yet though. Please don't.. just keep it confidential. Its easy troll bait, I'm warning you I am bored lol.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:15:00 - [90] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with AE's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? The new CEO of FA

Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1837	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:18:00 - [91] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with AE's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? I'm pretty sure it's located on one galaxy not on one planet It doesn't matter what the Question is... The Answer is NO! Team carry Prof. IV
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 760	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 - [92] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with FA's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? FTFY Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
ER-Bullitt 1163	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 - [93] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it, We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team. You are forking dense man.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. 2427	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:25:00 - [94] - Quote XEROO COOL wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with OLSPI's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? FTFY there now it really fixed.. Listen I'll change the song every week
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 498	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:28:00 - [95] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it, We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team. You are forking dense man. by we i meant the dust community and about my last point, you get off PFC why would the first thing you do is to go after AE makes not sense The new CEO of FA
CookieStein G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 256	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:30:00 - [96] - Quote Not sure where this thread is heading as its been all over the place but NS was brought into EoN because they represented a time zone we didn't have and it kept the advantage of that time zone out of someone else's hands...I was the only one against NS joining and same goes for OH.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1646	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:31:00 - [97] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
ER-Bullitt 1164	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:33:00 - [98] - Quote Good idea.. Nyain San can start their own PFC, setup their own council, their own police department, etc. It can be the bizzaro-pfc
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1646	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:35:00 - [99] - Quote Well, since Machine Guns suggested a second planet, if his corp would be so kind... we could have Constellation Fight Club. The CFC. in DUST. ;) ^- This is an EVE joke. Some of you will completely miss the humor. I'm sorry for you. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1837	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:35:00 - [100] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it, We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team. You are forking dense man. by we i meant the dust community and about my last point, you get off PFC why would the first thing you do is to go after AE makes not sense I think he means the other way around. Corp "A" leaves PFC and takes a district from Corp B AE proceeds to curb stomp them into oblivion and take their district. It doesn't matter what the Question is... The Answer is NO! Team carry Prof. IV

XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 760	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:37:00 - [101] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! That might be the most logical PR campaign they could ever launch... too bad it will never happen! Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:41:00 - [102] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Good to know, Men in Blops is a good squad. And to correct you, NF was sent to police what was supposed to be a friendly match ML setup against The Phoenix Federation about two weeks ago. So I am a bit confused when you would say something like this: Sota wrote: Until PFC gets it's act together we won't be sent out to enforce policies that don't exist yet - and if we aren't sent out on enforcement we don't get paid. NF's interest would be for the council to decide on rules so we can get to work. Clearly you guys have been policing, right? Therefore getting paid to do so, right? Corps have been removed, right? Lets keep it one hundid Are you purposely being blind? Even without the new policies there are some very CLEAR rules to PFC. So some regulation can take place. Keep your bad meta away from me, please.
ER-Bullitt 1165	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:44:00 - [103] - Quote Dafuq? Why are you looking for a fight when there is none. If you don't want me to correct you, be more specific next time. Douchenozzle. Go home sota, you're washed up
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:48:00 - [104] - Quote NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets
NobIesse Oblige Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 164	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:49:00 - [105] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! That's the thing I disagree with... I mean..if I was a small corp and only owned one district then yeah you'd need to call in a big guy to help...but if I owned a few districts..or had alliance help...NF and FA and AE only have one elite team to play with each. Why not stack yourselves and take someone else's? PC can be a game of numbers...the problem is the price for clone packs...when it's cheaper to send 300 clones from a prod facility than send a clone pack for 36 mil...we have an issue. I'm CEO, Bitch Incentivizing n00bs to carry me cir.12/13
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1647	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:56:00 - [106] - Quote Noblesse, the issue is, corps with a lot of districts have enough ISK saved up to just reclaim anything they lose shortly after. And the FEC discovered that 4 TeamPlayers can take on a team of 16 poor players pretty well too, so the idea of stacking timers didn't even help them that much. And if they get too burdened, these corps with a large existing pool of districts can afford to take the cost even once district locking gets fixed, of locking up districts for a cost, in order to minimize the threat to a manageable size. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
ER-Bullitt 1165	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:12:00 - [107] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets +1 ... I did find it funny that dude blantly said "we need PFC policies so people can break them and I can get paid". lulz.... I understand why, believe me... its part of this game just like being a bad heavy, but dafuq would you say something like that out loud. Talk about PR failure
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 521	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:33:00 - [108] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! Would like an answer. Will Nyan San provide Bosena for PFC? Perhaps it could be for corps with 12-19 timers.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:04:00 - [109] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Dafuq? Why are you looking for a fight when there is none. If you don't want me to correct you, be more specific next time. Douchenozzle. Go home sota, you're washed up I have no idea what you're talking about? It sounded like you were the one picking the fight? Corrected me on WHAT? Please quote the line you're correcting and how you corrected it? I will admit I am very high right now and possibly missed something or said something in a way that could mean something I didn't intended - so clarification would be appreciated.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1099	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:30:00 - [110] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~

CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1099	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:34:00 - [111] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Please clarify, PFC is to train corps for PC but PC is pretty much locked? Who's fault is that? CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1099	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:41:00 - [112] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: I'm confused... GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up. Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out??? Idk... All I know is I like this thread. Screw popcorn, pass the seasoned curly fries with hotwings. If you have a battle with one of GTA's corps on PFC you get all that corps members, not father corps players, there is a big difference. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1678	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:54:00 - [113] - Quote So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsh*t Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1918	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:44:00 - [114] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming. As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs" [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1213	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:48:00 - [115] - Quote a cute kitten picture. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1841	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:54:00 - [116] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: a cute kitten picture. I will never click one of your links again. It doesn't matter what the Question is... The Answer is NO! Team carry Prof. IV
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1214	Posted - 2014.03.08 02:59:00 - [117] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: a cute kitten picture. I will never click one of your links again. I'll make it up to you. unless you don't like sausage. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1102	Posted - 2014.03.08 11:41:00 - [118] - Quote Free Beers wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming. As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs" See, beers understands. Nice to see you back by the way... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3054	Posted - 2014.03.08 15:02:00 - [119] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC?? I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, Actually, the Council revised it's financing agreement with N-F since then. And several rules and policies have been set up. I don't think the Council feels ready to make them a public document yet though. Because the only people it concerns are the residents of PFC and NF. To all the other trolls...the public restroom is to the right You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3054	Posted - 2014.03.08 15:04:00 - [120] - Quote Free Beers wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming. As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs" Had me sold. I like fire but noooooo.. granpappy kane had to step in wave his stick at everyone, and thus PFC lives on You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche

xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.03.08 15:28:00 - [121] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. Ok Puppet. I know the truth and it isn't what you are saying. He bullied himself onto the scene and everyone but you puppets sees that. But to clear things up, Answer this. did the council approach Kane or did Kane approach district owners on PFC? Did ALL land owners decide for a council or was it a few of Kanes top puppets lol..
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1214	Posted - 2014.03.08 15:52:00 - [122] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. Ok Puppet. I know the truth and it isn't what you are saying. He bullied himself onto the scene and everyone but you puppets sees that. But to clear things up, Answer this. did the council approach Kane or did Kane approach district owners on PFC? Did ALL land owners decide for a council or was it a few of Kanes top puppets lol.. grow some balls and post with your main. or if banned, make a strong hint of who you are. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
norttheantiv The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 92	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:23:00 - [123] - Quote 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsh*t How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. Winner EU Squad Cup Go Go Power Rangers!
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:32:00 - [124] - Quote You are the last person who needs to be talking about someone growing some balls. Stop posting when something has nothing to do with you and go back to inserting your little pictures and videos like a good little girl.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1216	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:40:00 - [125] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: You are the last person who needs to be talking about someone growing some balls. Stop posting when something has nothing to do with you and go back to inserting your little pictures and videos like a good little girl. PFC has plenty to do with me. I policed it before. And besides, just because I decide to not take 85% of the stupid crap morons like you post doesn't mean I occasionally have an opinion that could be considered with some seriousness. And how am I the last one to talk about balls? I post on my main, and if ever I get banned, I'd make an alt saying it was me. Also, very well, I shall comply. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 523	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:42:00 - [126] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Good idea.. Nyain San can start their own PFC, setup their own council, their own police department, etc. It can be the bizzaro-pfc ^ Second alternate ending for this thread.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:45:00 - [127] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: You are the last person who needs to be talking about someone growing some balls. Stop posting when something has nothing to do with you and go back to inserting your little pictures and videos like a good little girl. PFC has plenty to do with me. I policed it before. And besides, just because I decide to not take 85% of the stupid crap morons like you post doesn't mean I occasionally have an opinion that could be considered with some seriousness. And how am I the last one to talk about balls? I post on my main, and if ever I get banned, I'd make an alt saying it was me. Also, very well, I shall comply. keep dreaming.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1216	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:53:00 - [128] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: keep dreaming. is that really the best you could come up with? beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1105	Posted - 2014.03.08 17:24:00 - [129] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. Ok Puppet. I know the truth and it isn't what you are saying. He bullied himself onto the scene and everyone but you puppets sees that. But to clear things up, Answer this. did the council approach Kane or did Kane approach district owners on PFC? Did ALL land owners decide for a council or was it a few of Kanes top puppets lol.. The council voted for the E.R.A. services as there were a couple options available. The vote was a majority for, those that did not vote for, were removed, simple politics of a majority vote. If you know the "truth" as you supposedly say you do then surely you won't mind posting on your main, were you or are you in one of the corporations that was removed? Please be sure you have your facts straight before you engage in conversations that really have nothing to do with you, it will save you some embarrassment. And I had never spoken to Kane before voting for the his services and was not forced into anything. Life is about making choices and you live by your decisions directly affected by the choices you make. Please use proper grammar and punctuation, and please use some nut and post on main when making a fool of yourself. Have a nice day... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1216	Posted - 2014.03.08 17:31:00 - [130] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. Ok Puppet. I know the truth and it isn't what you are saying. He bullied himself onto the scene and everyone but you puppets sees that. But to clear things up, Answer this. did the council approach Kane or did Kane approach district owners on PFC? Did ALL land owners decide for a council or was it a few of Kanes top puppets lol.. The council voted for the E.R.A. services as there were a couple options available. The vote was a majority for, those that did not vote for, were removed, simple politics of a majority vote. If you know the "truth" as you supposedly say you do then surely you won't mind posting on your main, were you or are you in one of the corporations that was removed? Please be sure you have your facts straight before you engage in conversations that really have nothing to do with you, it will save you some embarrassment. And I had never spoken to Kane before voting for the his services and was not forced into anything. Life is about making choices and you live by your decisions directly affected by the choices you make. Please use proper grammar and punctuation, and please use some nut and post on main when making a fool of yourself. Have a nice day... Why thank you sir, you have a lovely time yourself. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 343	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:33:00 - [131] - Quote Nerds
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1105	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:47:00 - [132] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Nerds I know, I gotta put my horned rim glasses on. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 100	Posted - 2014.03.08 19:39:00 - [133] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. Be patient, district locking will come to an end, we will give you a live demonstration, til then its like pulling a unicorn out of a hat, nearly impossible when all districts are locked and no real war is raging, a simple move is like shooting a flare in a wardrobe, both exciting, dangerous and pretty stupid and pointless.... Quebec United CFO
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.03.08 19:44:00 - [134] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. Be patient, district locking will come to an end, we will give you a live demonstration, til then its like pulling a unicorn out of a hat, nearly impossible when all districts are locked and no real war is raging, a simple move is like shooting a flare in a wardrobe, both exciting, dangerous and pretty stupid and pointless.... LOL...cute...nerd
ER-Bullitt 1176	Posted - 2014.03.08 20:07:00 - [135] - Quote not for nothing, but nerd isn't really an insult anymore. See... bill gates for example. lol
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1106	Posted - 2014.03.08 23:28:00 - [136] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. Be patient, district locking will come to an end, we will give you a live demonstration, til then its like pulling a unicorn out of a hat, nearly impossible when all districts are locked and no real war is raging, a simple move is like shooting a flare in a wardrobe, both exciting, dangerous and pretty stupid and pointless.... LOL...cute...nerd God Bigole your the balls, news flash, chicks dig nerds. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 264	Posted - 2014.03.09 02:11:00 - [137] - Quote Was a great fight. WTF ultimately lost the district, though. I sent gl hf's to taky but he ignored me. And after first match Imnouto or w/e his name is gave me some good fights so I sent him a msg praising him - again ignored. :'(
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3061	Posted - 2014.03.09 02:35:00 - [138] - Quote A for effort. WTF always brings it tho. not sure their strategy throwing 209 clones the FIRST match into the meat grinder, kinda put the rest of the match at a bigger disadvantage for them. nonetheless always a good time with WTF. See u soon Traky You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 202	Posted - 2014.03.09 04:04:00 - [139] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC. GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET. I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful. The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly. Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago. Please post on main, thank you. So you're paying a retainer fee or allowing Kane to extort ISK from the small corps? Just curious. Not a PFC member. Just a concerned citizen of New Eden.
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1689	Posted - 2014.03.09 05:02:00 - [140] - Quote norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY

Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1929	Posted - 2014.03.09 07:26:00 - [141] - Quote 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? PC has always been unbalanced. At the beginning we had super groups plant flags. Then we had massive power blocks blue up and run PC. There has never been a good time for corps to really "come up" Most of the corps that have come into PC tend to be PC vets that split off or formed up a new corp. The best that small corps have done is join a big alliance they either get removed by other power alliances or have to use the alliance A team to defend. That said, your right there hasn't been a corp move up and make a big impact from PFC but its still the best option. If you are existing and play in PC you tend to have to buy your district, fight and lose it, pay merc to defend you. For some this is fine because PC is a status. Some others like those you see trying to make PFC work would rather use there own players and give them a shot. It all goes back to the reason why the powers that be agreed to do PFC a year ago. To have training corps where players could learn to fight and not worrying about losing districts. So hate on NF for taking your stuff all you want but NF extortion of PFC is a win win for all parties involved (unless your corp gets voted off the island) [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2014.03.09 09:15:00 - [142] - Quote Free Beers wrote: 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? PC has always been unbalanced. At the beginning we had super groups plant flags. Then we had massive power blocks blue up and run PC. There has never been a good time for corps to really "come up" Most of the corps that have come into PC tend to be PC vets that split off or formed up a new corp. The best that small corps have done is join a big alliance they either get removed by other power alliances or have to use the alliance A team to defend. That said, your right there hasn't been a corp move up and make a big impact from PFC but its still the best option. If you are existing and play in PC you tend to have to buy your district, fight and lose it, pay merc to defend you. For some this is fine because PC is a status. Some others like those you see trying to make PFC work would rather use there own players and give them a shot. It all goes back to the reason why the powers that be agreed to do PFC a year ago. To have training corps where players could learn to fight and not worrying about losing districts. So hate on NF for taking your stuff all you want but NF extortion of PFC is a win win for all parties involved (unless your corp gets voted off the island) That all sounds warm and fuzzy but it still doesn't change the fact that PFC corps graduate and can hang with the top corps. The best players for the most part migrate to the corps with other top players. PFC is STILL a great fantasy that many buy into thinking it is a way to somehow magically make people/corps as good as the top corps. It's a joke and that will never happen. Kain and his PFC puppets will only strengthen NF buy allowing them to be paid to ring when the puppet council decides to remove someone or an outside attack happens. Kain's already trying to buy districts from other corps using the donated money giving to supposedly fund PfC. PFC is the only place really to have PC battles ,, so that is why this scheme has been setup. Kain being the middle man is allowing anyone to attack PFC while his buddies get paid to ring in the defense or removal of corps. The best option is to get rid of this council because it was only implemented to make those puppets feel important and as if they are really in control. As long as it is profitable, Kain will continue to appear to be helping you not only with extortion protection, but with a little friendly advise just to make you feel good. I'd like to hear how this council was created. was there a vote to create it or did Kain and corporate raiders decide there would be a council? So far the people involved have done well to shift responsibility and ownership. Oh no don't blame NF we are just fulfilling contracts talk to Kain. Oh no it's not Kain he just accepts contracts ask sora. Oh no it is not sora ask the puppet council. lol Keep making these guys rich, just don't complain 5 months down the road when they control everything.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 266	Posted - 2014.03.09 09:33:00 - [143] - Quote xMaggot Domex wrote: Jacked Beers wrote: 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is Da Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-servin bullsht How tha * is dis relevant, biatch? What stops our asses bein on PFC if we treat it up in tha erect way, biatch? If we git no special treatment then why should our asses aint be part of tha phat fights? On a side note, props ta VC fo' tha fight last week, I be lookin forward ta dis weekz like a muthafucka. Yo ass muthafuckas brang dat . Yo ass muthafuckas is up in tha Negative-Feedback Alliizzle n' obviously gotta much association wit PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights up in PC matches wit NF. If thatz phat enough reason ta kick off a hustlin corp, then its phat enough reason ta kick YOU off yo. How tha come tha "reasoning" of kickin off WTFA don't apply ta RE when RE has mo' weight tha ** into dat "reasoning" n' less need ta be on PFC. Its just NF bustin self-servin bullsht. For once PFC flossed dat shiznit was hustlin wit WTFA, n' of course NF wanted it snuffed up ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC eva amounted ta anything, or even done cooked up a ripple it PC, cuz it don't work. PFC is just a exploitation farm. Kickin off WTFA wit subjectizzle reasonin be a slick sign of corruption. Do RE straight-up need ta be on PFC, biatch? Is you muthafuckas up in dat much need of hustlin ta become a phat corp, biatch? PC has always been unbalanced. Y'all KNOW dat *, muthafucka! At tha beginnin our crazy asses had supa crews plant flags. Then our crazy asses had massive juice blocks blue up n' run PC. There has never been a phat time fo' corps ta straight-up "come up" Most of tha corps dat have come tha into PC tend ta be PC vets dat split off or formed up a freshly smoked up corp. Da dopest dat lil' small-ass corps have done is join a funky-ass big-ass alliizzle they either git removed by other juice alliances or gotta use tha alliizzle A crew ta defend. That holla'd, yo' right there aint been a cold-ass lil corp move up n' cook up a funky-ass big-ass impact from PFC but its still tha dopest option. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. If yo ass is existin n' play up in PC you tend ta gotta loot yo' district, fight n' lose it, pay merc ta defend yo thugged-out ass. For some dis is fine cuz PC be a status. Some others like dem you peep tryin ta make PFC work would rather use there own playas n' give dem a shot. It all goes back ta tha reason why tha powers dat be agreed ta do PFC a year ago. To have hustlin corps where playas could learn ta fight n' not worryin bout losin districts, n' you can put dat on yo' toast. So don't give a bout on NF fo' takin yo' shiznit all you want but NF extortion of PFC be a win win fo' all partizzles involved (unless yo' corp gets voted off tha island) That all soundz warm n' fuzzy but it still don't chizzle tha fact dat PFC corps graduate n' can hang wit tha top corps. Da dopest playas fo' da most thugged-out part migrate ta tha corps wit other top playas. PFC is STILL a pimped out fantasy dat nuff loot tha into thankin it aint nuthin but a way ta somehow magically make people/corps as phat as tha top corps. It aint nuthin but a joke n' dat aint NEVER gonna happen. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Kain n' his PFC puppets will only strengthen NF loot allowin dem ta be paid ta rang when tha puppet council decides ta remove one of mah thugs or a outside battle happens. Kainz already tryin ta loot districts from other corps rockin tha donated scrilla givin ta supposedly fund PfC. PFC is tha only place straight-up ta have PC battlez ,, so dat is why dis scheme has been setup. Kain bein tha middle playa be allowin mah playas ta battle PFC while his buddies git paid ta rang up in tha defense or removal of corps. Da dopest option is ta git rid of dis council cuz dat shiznit was only implemented ta make dem puppets feel blingin n' as if they is straight-up up in control. As long as it is profitable, Kain will continue ta step tha up ta be helpin you not only wit extortion protection yo, but wit a lil thugged-out advise just ta make you feel good. I'd like ta git up in ta how tha dis council was pimped. Y'all KNOW dat **, muthafucka! This type'a shiznit happens all tha time. was there a vote ta create it or did Kain n' corporate raidaz decizzle there would be a cold-ass lil council, biatch? So far tha playas involved have done well ta shift responsibilitizzle n' ballership. Oh shiiiiiiiit don't blame NF we is just fulfillin contracts rap ta Kain. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Oh shiiiiiiiit it aint Kain he just accepts contracts ask sora. Oh shiiiiiiiit it aint sora ask tha puppet council. lol Keep makin these muthafuckas rich, just don't diss 5 months down tha road when they control every last muthafuckin thang. Translated because it got boring hearing the same old bullshit from the 20th alt. Least now I can enjoy reading the bs.
norttheantiv The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 94	Posted - 2014.03.09 10:33:00 - [144] - Quote 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? Yes we are in negative feedback, it's mad how that means we fight for them isn't it lol? Fighting for an alliance when you are a member of that alliance is not too unusual is it? Maybe I have misunderstood the reason for alliances in the first place. WTFA was locking its districts by attacking itself with WTF attacks. It was voted out by the council, NF just did the dirty work. Really nothing to do with us beyond that. It's just a job. If you look for TRE on the starmap you will not find us outside PFC, we are a Corp which needs to fill certain key positions in order to be effective in PC, that requires trials and training, where do people go to do that again? I liked you better when you sent stupid hate mail. I still fondly remember your one calling me an advanced stomper, no you just look foolish instead of cute. On a Sid note, I won't be responding to people who don't have the balls to post on their main. Winner EU Squad Cup Go Go Power Rangers!
olssam 62 What The French 88	Posted - 2014.03.09 11:01:00 - [145] - Quote Escrow Removal and Acquisition [-ERA-] Aeditide VI - District 8Cargo Hub450 Altbrard VI - District 2Cargo Hub450 Audesder VII - District 1 Cargo Hub450 Audesder VII - District 3 Cargo Hub361 Hrober V - District 3Cargo Hub1450 Kadlina IV - District 5Surface Research Lab300 Kadlina IV - District 6Cargo Hub1450 Klingt VI - District 1Cargo Hub450 Oddelulf III - District 21 Cargo Hub450 Oddelulf III - District 7Cargo Hub244450 Osvetur V - District 11Cargo Hub450450 Sakulda VI - District 5Production Facility300 Soraya Xel wrote: For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. Then? the council does not go on the attack? Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
olssam 62 What The French 88	Posted - 2014.03.09 11:06:00 - [146] - Quote " WTFA was locking its districts by attacking itself with WTF attacks. " And tomorrow will be like what charge ? Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
Patrick57 5882	Posted - 2014.03.09 14:41:00 - [147] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Free Beers wrote: 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? PC has always been unbalanced. At the beginning we had super groups plant flags. Then we had massive power blocks blue up and run PC. There has never been a good time for corps to really "come up" Most of the corps that have come into PC tend to be PC vets that split off or formed up a new corp. The best that small corps have done is join a big alliance they either get removed by other power alliances or have to use the alliance A team to defend. That said, your right there hasn't been a corp move up and make a big impact from PFC but its still the best option. If you are existing and play in PC you tend to have to buy your district, fight and lose it, pay merc to defend you. For some this is fine because PC is a status. Some others like those you see trying to make PFC work would rather use there own players and give them a shot. It all goes back to the reason why the powers that be agreed to do PFC a year ago. To have training corps where players could learn to fight and not worrying about losing districts. So hate on NF for taking your stuff all you want but NF extortion of PFC is a win win for all parties involved (unless your corp gets voted off the island) That all sounds warm and fuzzy but it still doesn't change the fact that PFC corps graduate and can hang with the top corps. The best players for the most part migrate to the corps with other top players. PFC is STILL a great fantasy that many buy into thinking it is a way to somehow magically make people/corps as good as the top corps. It's a joke and that will never happen. Kain and his PFC puppets will only strengthen NF buy allowing them to be paid to ring when the puppet council decides to remove someone or an outside attack happens. Kain's already trying to buy districts from other corps using the donated money giving to supposedly fund PfC. PFC is the only place really to have PC battles ,, so that is why this scheme has been setup. Kain being the middle man is allowing anyone to attack PFC while his buddies get paid to ring in the defense or removal of corps. The best option is to get rid of this council because it was only implemented to make those puppets feel important and as if they are really in control. As long as it is profitable, Kain will continue to appear to be helping you not only with extortion protection, but with a little friendly advise just to make you feel good. I'd like to hear how this council was created. was there a vote to create it or did Kain and corporate raiders decide there would be a council? So far the people involved have done well to shift responsibility and ownership. Oh no don't blame NF we are just fulfilling contracts talk to Kain. Oh no it's not Kain he just accepts contracts ask sora. Oh no it is not sora ask the puppet council. lol Keep making these guys rich, just don't complain 5 months down the road when they control everything. This is a long quote.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2014.03.09 14:59:00 - [148] - Quote Even sota girl admitted that Kain an NF bullied their way into PFC.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3063	Posted - 2014.03.09 15:23:00 - [149] - Quote olssam 62 wrote: Escrow Removal and Acquisition [-ERA-] Aeditide VI - District 8Cargo Hub450 Altbrard VI - District 2Cargo Hub450 Audesder VII - District 1 Cargo Hub450 Audesder VII - District 3 Cargo Hub361 Hrober V - District 3Cargo Hub1450 Kadlina IV - District 5Surface Research Lab300 Kadlina IV - District 6Cargo Hub1450 Klingt VI - District 1Cargo Hub450 Oddelulf III - District 21 Cargo Hub450 Oddelulf III - District 7Cargo Hub244450 Osvetur V - District 11Cargo Hub450450 Sakulda VI - District 5Production Facility300 Soraya Xel wrote: For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. Then? the council does not go on the attack? More QQ. NF enforces the wishes of the PFC council, made up of EVERY participating member of PFC. were you on the council? Hmmmmm... perhaps why you are so butthurt? doesnt matter. QQ all u want NF pest control was called upon and took care of the infestation on district 7. after the quarantine is complete to sterlizie the facility, a new corp chosen by the council shall be moving in. One that doesnt stand mute and only cry when its already too late. You got served, and new eden hasnt formed a court of appeals yet. All sales Final. #GGtho#toobadustillgottaQQ You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 351	Posted - 2014.03.09 16:33:00 - [150] - Quote Nerds

CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1111	Posted - 2014.03.09 16:59:00 - [151] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Even sota girl admitted that Kain an NF bullied their way into PFC. So, what Corp do you really belong to there tough guy? CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 454	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:10:00 - [152] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Nerds lol not nerds... fckin' geeks!! #Dud514
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2438	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:17:00 - [153] - Quote Thread and posts have been achieved File Name:* "WTF QQ(Continued)" Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1693	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:25:00 - [154] - Quote Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:46:00 - [155] - Quote 8213 wrote: Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). A coalition to hit PFC? LOLOLOLOL. Has the dust community gotten THAT bad that a COALITION needs to be formed to fight a TRAINING PLANET? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! please, do it. I want to know which baddies are so leet they need to group up on training corps. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3065	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:55:00 - [156] - Quote Not to mention if you havent noticed... PFC districts have been the ONLY districts that have remained online throughout the locking extravaganza lol u have a 'coalition' u should just coordinate a zerg on nyain san. Would be a helluva lot easier to get land since they have 1 team that is straight up gutter trash. Aside from milkman, nyain is nothing, they used to at least be formidable when they had server, cause everyone else lagged so bad, but ive seen it firsthand now, just today as a matter of fact. If their best team on their time is as bad as what i saw today, everyone and their brother should just zerg em and enjoy the fruits of molden heath You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1225	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:18:00 - [157] - Quote Can't we just burn PFC? I mean think about it, there is nothing but benefits. 1) no more long winded speeches from everybody. 2) Sota wouldn't have to constantly translate for people. 3) Maggot brain wouldn't have to post random insults no one cares about. Where is the downside to burning PFC? someone enlighten me please, but keep in mind I probably won't finish it if it's in MLA essay format. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1934	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:37:00 - [158] - Quote 8213 wrote: Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). So what you are saying is you are going to hire ringers to attack PFC because "whittle kain hurt your fewlings"? I say that because what I have seen of your corp you would lose to most PFC corps if you didn't. keep posting you are the only entertainment left in dust it seems [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Traky78 What The French 599	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:32:00 - [159] - Quote norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? Yes we are in negative feedback, it's mad how that means we fight for them isn't it lol? Fighting for an alliance when you are a member of that alliance is not too unusual is it? Maybe I have misunderstood the reason for alliances in the first place. WTFA was locking its districts by attacking itself with WTF attacks. It was voted out by the council, NF just did the dirty work. Really nothing to do with us beyond that. It's just a job. If you look for TRE on the starmap you will not find us outside PFC, we are a Corp which needs to fill certain key positions in order to be effective in PC, that requires trials and training, where do people go to do that again? I liked you better when you sent stupid hate mail. I still fondly remember your one calling me an advanced stomper, no you just look foolish instead of cute. On a Sid note, I won't be responding to people who don't have the balls to post on their main. WTFA was locking its districts ? Why said bullshit ? We never locked our district on PFC because we enjoyed PFC ! Don't post if you know nothing of what's happening ! CEO of What The French.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:35:00 - [160] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Not to mention if you havent noticed... PFC districts have been the ONLY districts that have remained online throughout the locking extravaganza lol u have a 'coalition' u should just coordinate a zerg on nyain san. Would be a helluva lot easier to get land since they have 1 team that is straight up gutter trash. Aside from milkman, nyain is nothing, they used to at least be formidable when they had server, cause everyone else lagged so bad, but ive seen it firsthand now, just today as a matter of fact. If their best team on their time is as bad as what i saw today, everyone and their brother should just zerg em and enjoy the fruits of molden heath I mentioned that several times already. hence the only reason why NF and Kain are involved in PFC. the puppets are just worried about if this is an alt account of someone they know. lol stop worrying about who I am and worry about who Kane really is puppets.,

Traky78 What The French 602	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:35:00 - [161] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: A for effort. WTF always brings it tho. not sure their strategy throwing 209 clones the FIRST match into the meat grinder, kinda put the rest of the match at a bigger disadvantage for them. nonetheless always a good time with WTF. See u soon Traky Yes always bro ! Thought it was a bit diificult since you used all the ringers you could.... and my beasts were offline CEO of What The French.
Traky78 What The French 602	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:39:00 - [162] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Thread and posts have been achieved File Name:* "WTF QQ(Continued)" Go slay yourself ! There is a difference between QQ and give some spices in the fight. Scrub CEO of What The French.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2439	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:28:00 - [163] - Quote Traky78 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Thread and posts have been achieved File Name:* "WTF QQ(Continued)" Go slay yourself ! There is a difference between QQ and give some spices in the fight. Scrub Always a pleasure... GG Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2449	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:49:00 - [164] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Can't we just burn PFC? I mean think about it, there is nothing but benefits. 1) no more long winded speeches from everybody. 2) Sota wouldn't have to constantly translate for people. 3) Maggot brain wouldn't have to post random insults no one cares about. Where is the downside to burning PFC? someone enlighten me please, but keep in mind I probably won't finish it if it's in MLA essay format. I would start reporting posts... Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:07:00 - [165] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). A coalition to hit PFC? LOLOLOLOL. Has the dust community gotten THAT bad that a COALITION needs to be formed to fight a TRAINING PLANET? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! please, do it. I want to know which baddies are so leet they need to group up on training corps. LOLOLOLOLOLOL You are ********. It wont be the PFC PUppETS fighting it will be Kanes errand boys.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1226	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:11:00 - [166] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Can't we just burn PFC? I mean think about it, there is nothing but benefits. 1) no more long winded speeches from everybody. 2) Sota wouldn't have to constantly translate for people. 3) Maggot brain wouldn't have to post random insults no one cares about. Where is the downside to burning PFC? someone enlighten me please, but keep in mind I probably won't finish it if it's in MLA essay format. I would start reporting posts... That's the wimps way out. no offense. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1226	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:13:00 - [167] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). A coalition to hit PFC? LOLOLOLOL. Has the dust community gotten THAT bad that a COALITION needs to be formed to fight a TRAINING PLANET? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! please, do it. I want to know which baddies are so leet they need to group up on training corps. LOLOLOLOLOLOL You are saying PFC district owners will be fighting the battles? or is this more of you ill logic that only you believe. also good job in bringing racism into the topic by translating my post earlier. really used a lot of slang black people use. to bad you got the wrong guy .. Weird. so on a side note, what you posted is completely different from what is being quoted. Don't get me wrong, I still think you're cowardly trash, but in all seriousness, I didn't put that stuff in there. EDIT: oh wait, it was just edited as soon as I quoted, my bad! beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:13:00 - [168] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Can't we just burn PFC? I mean think about it, there is nothing but benefits. 1) no more long winded speeches from everybody. 2) Sota wouldn't have to constantly translate for people. 3) Maggot brain wouldn't have to post random insults no one cares about. Where is the downside to burning PFC? someone enlighten me please, but keep in mind I probably won't finish it if it's in MLA essay format. I would start reporting posts... That's the wimps way out. no offense. Yea cant really report it since you insulted me first.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1226	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:16:00 - [169] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Can't we just burn PFC? I mean think about it, there is nothing but benefits. 1) no more long winded speeches from everybody. 2) Sota wouldn't have to constantly translate for people. 3) Maggot brain wouldn't have to post random insults no one cares about. Where is the downside to burning PFC? someone enlighten me please, but keep in mind I probably won't finish it if it's in MLA essay format. I would start reporting posts... That's the wimps way out. no offense. Yea cant really report it since you insulted me first. incorrect, I merely stated you needed to grow a pair of ********* and post with your main after you went after Cyrax. Then it descended to insults. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1226	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:17:00 - [170] - Quote really CCP? testicles is censored? Really? beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.

Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2953	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:38:00 - [171] - Quote The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2450	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:44:00 - [172] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. 2 Questions is this list a list of people who can ring for NF? or is it a waiting list for a PFC district? Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1228	Posted - 2014.03.10 00:55:00 - [173] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. Wait, I get to fight on PFC? For money? Well, PFC you have a new lover. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2954	Posted - 2014.03.10 01:09:00 - [174] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. 2 Questions is this list a list of people who can ring for NF? or is it a waiting list for a PFC district? Honestly we have both of those list. Please be aware that those corps/alliances interested in a PFC district have to past muster with the council. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
ads alt 161	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:05:00 - [175] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. 2 Questions is this list a list of people who can ring for NF? or is it a waiting list for a PFC district? Honestly we have both of those list. Please be aware that those corps/alliances interested in a PFC district have to past muster with the council. I'll join the list im not the best, but im pretty good, I never use damage mods so, yea. Typo Click here for 1.8 release date quote from devs
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1696	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:27:00 - [176] - Quote Free Beers wrote: 8213 wrote: Just remember NF, when the locking gets fixed, you can't defend all 24 at once. Numbers win. PFC is going into a black hole. Better hope Kane pulls some CPM strings to save it (which, he no doubt will try) because you can't simultaneously take on the ENORMOUS coalitions that is ready to spring on PFC very soon(tm). So what you are saying is you are going to hire ringers to attack PFC because "whittle kain hurt your fewlings"? I say that because what I have seen of your corp you would lose to most PFC corps if you didn't. keep posting you are the only entertainment left in dust it seems There's about 1200 mercs good and bad ready to burn PFC to the ground... perhaps you should pay attention to more than just your little world on these forums and in the game... Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1696	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:29:00 - [177] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. Really? Since when? Oh, you're trying to buy off people to save your a** like you've always done. It isn't going to work, kiddo. The PFC idea was nice, but it failed and became corrupt like everything you touch. We want it gone, it will be gone. Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 4	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:44:00 - [178] - Quote 8213 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The funny thing is that the PFC fund is untouchable and in escrow. It can only be used for enforcement and defense. A mass attack will put over 1 billion ISK into merc pockets. You all seem to enjoy crying about NF benefitting from PFC and then choose the course of action that puts ISK into merc pockets the fastest. Just as a point of information all skilled mercs are welcome to ring for PFC defense and enforcement and will be compensated for their services. Please contact me it you are interested in being added to the list. I don't care about your tags. Only your skill in battle and professionalism. Really? Since when? Oh, you're trying to buy off people to save your a** like you've always done. It isn't going to work, kiddo. The PFC idea was nice, but it failed and became corrupt like everything you touch. We want it gone, it will be gone. This guy is maaaaddddd. There's a message in my Cheerios!
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 280	Posted - 2014.03.10 07:09:00 - [179] - Quote 8213 wrote: It is not fair they get an out and are able to participate in PC while I get benched by every corp I'm in. I don't even have the balls to join a PFC corp just to see a PC match because it might hurt my forum e-peen. The only option I have left is wine and cry about others succeeding and pretend I'm not envious. Translated through all the tears. You're welcome.
Predator SECUTOR Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2014.03.10 08:28:00 - [180] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Please Address your concerns to the PFC council in matters of land ownership. ERA/ NF is simply executing orders derived from the council. I suggest maybe an open petition to the council or general public, but certainly not Kain or NF. As stated above, we're fulfilling a contract, and until the council tells us otherwise, the attack will follow through. Thank you for your time. Listen to this clown and his "PFC Council" Unless CCP creates a council for a specific planet yours is completely meaningless. PFC is a gentlemans agreement, nobody has oversee rights to it.

Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 5	Posted - 2014.03.10 08:36:00 - [181] - Quote Predator SECUTOR wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Please Address your concerns to the PFC council in matters of land ownership. ERA/ NF is simply executing orders derived from the council. I suggest maybe an open petition to the council or general public, but certainly not Kain or NF. As stated above, we're fulfilling a contract, and until the council tells us otherwise, the attack will follow through. Thank you for your time. Listen to this clown and his "PFC Council" Unless CCP creates a council for a specific planet yours is completely meaningless. PFC is a gentlemans agreement, nobody has oversee rights to it. Don't poke the bear. There's a message in my Cheerios!
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2014.03.10 09:51:00 - [182] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: It is not fair they get an out and are able to participate in PC while I get benched by every corp I'm in. I don't even have the balls to join a PFC corp just to see a PC match because it might hurt my forum e-peen. The only option I have left is wine and cry about others succeeding and pretend I'm not envious. Translated through all the tears. I consider it my duty to help spread your message in a more clear, concise way. No need to thank me, peasant. translation of the translator Hi I'm Sotapoop and I can't think on my own so I will edit other peoples comments and pretend I'm smart. For all those puppets out there that continue to follow Kane no need to thank me just keep enjoying your fantasy club while you still can.
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1699	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:07:00 - [183] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: It is not fair they get an out and are able to participate in PC while I get benched by every corp I'm in. I don't even have the balls to join a PFC corp just to see a PC match because it might hurt my forum e-peen. The only option I have left is wine and cry about others succeeding and pretend I'm not envious. Translated through all the tears. I consider it my duty to help spread your message in a more clear, concise way. No need to thank me, peasant. How do you know that I haven't been on PFC in matches? How do you know that I'm actually in a corp that it's in an Alliance with a PFC corp and we play matches their often? Oh wait... you don't... you live in your own created world of what you think is happening around you. You act like some big kid on the block, when you're just the class clown that nobody has ever taken serious about anything. NF can't defend an attack on PFC, simple as that. If it wasn't for the fact that you had to pay to get on; then stay... PFC would be fine. Nobody would flip anything on it, because nobody cares to fight the scrubs that are on it. Maybe if PC wasn't just 3 corps/alliances their would be no need for PFC, but people like you, your corp, and your alliance made it that way. Create a false need, and fulfill it... its made you all very rich in this game. I see it as worse than NS spanking noobs in Ambush night after, after night. Unless its about Anime, STFU. You're not a spokesperson for PFC, your alliance, and anything. PFC doesn't work for those who participate in it, they just get their ISK taken, then kicked off for a subjective reason, by a subjective "council" that doesn't have any actual power or authority; and is self-serving hypocrisy. And, it's all ran by a guy who has direct CPM standing in this game, which is simply a conflict of interest; and has been proven to be displayed corrupt. Now, this is the part where you go through my post, and turn into clever thug-a-nomics because obviously you have too much time on your hands and probably should seek gainful employment in the real world. Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:12:00 - [184] - Quote Tell us some more how NF had nothing to do with this new pfc puppet council...... and the new policing of it.... oops did I say that
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 8	Posted - 2014.03.10 10:20:00 - [185] - Quote I understand people's frustrations in a council based society of "elected officials" that theoretically have no power however, they are doing their due diligence to provide a stable gaming enviroment here. I have had the plessure/displessure in hearing conversations of individuals (during my friggin game time) of how the community can be improved. It is the way of ALL THINGS that you will only see roughly 10% of the workings of those attempting to fix an issue. Things take time, people are impatient. People want answers, answers require collaberation and discussion. So please, before you bash the people attempting to make this community still succeed, ask yourself if you'd want to be in their position. If you want you're group of likeminded children to be on a competitive level, work your yoga pants off and do some work. I'm happy to see people's concerns in this community but instead of complaining, provide constructive examples on how to make it better and stop relying on those to do it for you (then complain when it's not what "the winners of the special olympics" wanted.) There's a message in my Cheerios!
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1134	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:24:00 - [186] - Quote Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Nerds lol not nerds... fckin' geeks!! Chicks dig geeks too, money talks... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1134	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:30:00 - [187] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Not to mention if you havent noticed... PFC districts have been the ONLY districts that have remained online throughout the locking extravaganza lol u have a 'coalition' u should just coordinate a zerg on nyain san. Would be a helluva lot easier to get land since they have 1 team that is straight up gutter trash. Aside from milkman, nyain is nothing, they used to at least be formidable when they had server, cause everyone else lagged so bad, but ive seen it firsthand now, just today as a matter of fact. If their best team on their time is as bad as what i saw today, everyone and their brother should just zerg em and enjoy the fruits of molden heath I mentioned that several times already. hence the only reason why NF and Kain are involved in PFC. the puppets are just worried about if this is an alt account of someone they know. lol stop worrying about who I am and worry about who Kane really is puppets., Really don't give a shite who you are hiding behind an alt, you have no facts as anyone truly involved can tell by your misguided spewing of BS. The attention you are getting for all the corps on PFC is great though, free advertising, thank you for your help, douche... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2452	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:35:00 - [188] - Quote 8213 wrote: Maybe if PC wasn't just 3 corps/alliances their would be no need for PFC, but people like you, your corp, and your alliance made it that way. And you... join Top Men... or an Indy corp... or STFU Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1135	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:51:00 - [189] - Quote 8213 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: It is not fair they get an out and are able to participate in PC while I get benched by every corp I'm in. I don't even have the balls to join a PFC corp just to see a PC match because it might hurt my forum e-peen. The only option I have left is wine and cry about others succeeding and pretend I'm not envious. Translated through all the tears. I consider it my duty to help spread your message in a more clear, concise way. No need to thank me, peasant. How do you know that I haven't been on PFC in matches? How do you know that I'm actually in a corp that it's in an Alliance with a PFC corp and we play matches their often? Oh wait... you don't... you live in your own created world of what you think is happening around you. You act like some big kid on the block, when you're just the class clown that nobody has ever taken serious about anything. NF can't defend an attack on PFC, simple as that. If it wasn't for the fact that you had to pay to get on; then stay... PFC would be fine. Nobody would flip anything on it, because nobody cares to fight the scrubs that are on it. Maybe if PC wasn't just 3 corps/alliances their would be no need for PFC, but people like you, your corp, and your alliance made it that way. Create a false need, and fulfill it... its made you all very rich in this game. I see it as worse than NS spanking noobs in Ambush night after, after night. Unless its about Anime, STFU. You're not a spokesperson for PFC, your alliance, and anything. PFC doesn't work for those who participate in it, they just get their ISK taken, then kicked off for a subjective reason, by a subjective "council" that doesn't have any actual power or authority; and is self-serving hypocrisy. And, it's all ran by a guy who has direct CPM standing in this game, which is simply a conflict of interest; and has been proven to be displayed corrupt. Now, this is the part where you go through my post, and turn into clever thug-a-nomics because obviously you have too much time on your hands and probably should seek gainful employment in the real world. Hey 82, I have to ask you a question, why would you ask me to ring in a battle against E.R.A.? Did you not know DF is on PFC? Surely you didn't know I sit on the council and deal with Kane on a regular basis. When you messaged me Fri night I was surprised. Now even more so because if you have to call on so called "scrubs" on PFC to ring against the people who are working with the PFC council, who the F are you gonna really get? Sorry but the BS has gone on to long with people posting on alts and you that have absolutely NO IDEA of the truth. This is when you must choose your next words carefully. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1658	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:52:00 - [190] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Tell us some more how NF had nothing to do with this new pfc puppet council...... and the new policing of it.... oops did I say that Subsonic was clearly refusing to pay the bill. Obviously, particularly with the old financing model, that is a problem for all of PFC. Everyone who didn't pay their bill that week didn't get removed, but Subsonic made a public todo of it, and understandably, that made them the low-hanging fruit. As an above commenter said: Don't poke the bear. Subsonic poked the bear. The bear bit their face off. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

john smitharooni Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:05:00 - [191] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Tell us some more how NF had nothing to do with this new pfc puppet council...... and the new policing of it.... oops did I say that Subsonic was clearly refusing to pay the bill. Obviously, particularly with the old financing model, that is a problem for all of PFC. Everyone who didn't pay their bill that week didn't get removed, but Subsonic made a public todo of it, and understandably, that made them the low-hanging fruit. As an above commenter said: Don't poke the bear. Subsonic poked the bear. The bear bit their face off. So, Subsonic refused to be extorted, and they were booted? Hmmm...seems contrary to the supposed 'spirit' of PFC, no? Very soon, these welfare corps will learn the true PC experience that they have been seeking. PFC will burn and NF will be powerless to stop it.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1658	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:09:00 - [192] - Quote It's not extortion, it's doing your share. But the point is, WTFA was better at meta than Subsonic. To my knowledge, they never paid the bill either. But they kept quiet, and so they weren't the first targeted. Then when the donations came along, and everyone got a free month, they were kept safe for a month. And still, they never got a chance to get removed for non-payment, they were removed because of a Council resolution. Basically, WTFA got a free month out of PFC because they knew when to shut up and stay quiet. ;) A lesson that perhaps Subsonic Synthesis members can learn from. ;) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
john smitharooni Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:17:00 - [193] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It's not extortion, it's doing your share. But the point is, WTFA was better at meta than Subsonic. To my knowledge, they never paid the bill either. But they kept quiet, and so they weren't the first targeted. Then when the donations came along, and everyone got a free month, they were kept safe for a month. And still, they never got a chance to get removed for non-payment, they were removed because of a Council resolution. Basically, WTFA got a free month out of PFC because they knew when to shut up and stay quiet. ;) A lesson that perhaps Subsonic Synthesis members can learn from. ;) Oh, I see now. You have to pay your bill and be nice and quiet, just like a good, little subservient gimp. This is what it takes to be on PFC??? What an embarrassment for all the corps involved in such a shameful enterprise.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 150	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:27:00 - [194] - Quote March 11th, that is all Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3069	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:32:00 - [195] - Quote you people still think we profit from PFC? you think these PFC corps are kickin up to NF just because? LuLz some people are just... dense at least those on PFC know whats really going on, brought forth the idea themselves, and voted and passed the arrangement. please, by all means attack PFC. We only get paid when we play on PFC so really, we're counting on you to attack! my new goal in this game is to have a 12 digit wallet. cant do that unless sh1tbums like yourself attack land that im contracted to defend. and just like CaliKid123123(string of random numbers) was going on for 4 HOURS last night talking to himself in the old Team Players pub channel (lol). I'm the 'B' team. Cubs is a scrub that needs 5 reps (not sure math but he certainly repeated this phrase 17 times over the course of his 4 hour rant). I'm a nobody. Really, I am. But the TEAM I assemble will beat down anyone in this game. Maybe not EVERY time (much as I dog Rampage, AE is and remains great competition, I don't expect that to change) but aside from them, there is little out there that can match the skill of the players I have at my disposal and 1 thing NO one will match, is our teamwork. That's where I make up for my 'B' team individual talent so to all the scrubs that shave their back hair and glue it to their underdeveloped *******, posting on alts and making 'threats' here's a safety razor... u missed a spot You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1660	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:32:00 - [196] - Quote No, I was just indicating that how you present yourself in public matters. It's really more a common sense thing, but common sense is rare enough that it's a superpower. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
ER-Bullitt 1179	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:57:00 - [197] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: you people still think we profit from PFC? you think these PFC corps are kickin up to NF just because? LuLz some people are just... dense Lulz for sure. In order to help you understand the "why" part of how the community has reacted to this (not that it matters, but its fun to learn) lets role play: _____ I'm going to create a persona of a guy who lets the community know I only care about how many digits are in my wallet, I don't fight for any cause anymore, those days are done. I just fight for a profit. Then... because this part is hilarious... I'm going to act all surprised and make fun of people in the community who say I must be doing this PFC thing solely for a profit. Then I'm going to tell them I don't make a profit. _____ Unless you are trolling, which would be awesome... I hate to say it but.. you may be the dense one here. Do you understand why these posts keep coming? I know you don't care, neither do I, these forums fill my downtime at work and I need something to troll.
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:04:00 - [198] - Quote The fact that you are trying to make Cubs out to be some money hoarding warmonger makes me smile because it is sooooo accurate hahahahahaha. However, you're not making a point anyone already knows. Attempting to make a sad lonely point is just sad. There's a message in my Cheerios!
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2956	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:17:00 - [199] - Quote Yes, Cubs is all about profit and rightly so. I am a bit more of an idealist although I try to be as pragmatic as I can. NF gets paid but only if someone attacks or the council approves an enforcement action. Working with the council a pretty damn good system has been set up. The new model was founded where ISK is only generated for the enforcement entity for actively enforcing or defending the planet. It works very similar to the pool contracts we have set up with other clients. Simple and effective. It also means that if these folks are dumb enough and they do attack PFC the thing they say don't like about PFC with NF getting ISK will be handed to us on a silver platter. When it comes down to it PFC is my personal venture as I didn't want to see it fizzle out and I do feel some responsibility since I had a hand in it's original founding almost a year ago now. Honestly though, as much as NF's backing has helped the real people behind PFC's functioning state are the council members. They have put in a lot of work and time to setting up the new rules and moving PFC along to full operation. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3238	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:34:00 - [200] - Quote I too would like to be paid for staring at bad players until their MCC explodes.

Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1940	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:35:00 - [201] - Quote I don't understand how so many in dust have a "everyone gets a trophy" mentality. There is a reason why dust is such a failure and part of it is the community. If dust had in game advertising vagisil would pay ccp a fortune for access to the shear amount of over sensative ****** that are here. smh [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3071	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:40:00 - [202] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I too would like to be paid for staring at bad players until their MCC explodes. still trying to get jedi mind trick lvl 4... 32x skill such a grind You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3071	Posted - 2014.03.10 15:43:00 - [203] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: you people still think we profit from PFC? you think these PFC corps are kickin up to NF just because? LuLz some people are just... dense Lulz for sure. _____ Unless you are trolling, which would be awesome... I hate to say it but.. you may be the dense one here. Do you understand why these posts keep coming? I know you don't care, neither do I, these forums fill my downtime at work and I need something to troll. work boredom makes for good times and 1 thing u nor anyone will ever know is what my true intentions are. Hell I don't even know half the time ;) and until I can graduate from Dust Rehab and move on from this sh1tbox of a game, you gotta deal with me and my random incoherent thoughts You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1137	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:04:00 - [204] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: you people still think we profit from PFC? you think these PFC corps are kickin up to NF just because? LuLz some people are just... dense Lulz for sure. _____ Unless you are trolling, which would be awesome... I hate to say it but.. you may be the dense one here. Do you understand why these posts keep coming? I know you don't care, neither do I, these forums fill my downtime at work and I need something to troll. work boredom makes for good times and 1 thing u nor anyone will ever know is what my true intentions are. Hell I don't even know half the time ;) and until I can graduate from Dust Rehab and move on from this sh1tbox of a game, you gotta deal with me and my random incoherent thoughts Destiny is coming. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
ER-Bullitt 1179	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:32:00 - [205] - Quote Lunatic Kota wrote: The fact that you are trying to make Cubs out to be some money hoarding warmonger makes me smile because it is sooooo accurate hahahahahaha. However, you're not making a point anyone already knows. Attempting to make a sad lonely point is just sad. . And you make a post to make your point that I was stating the obvious and its a sad point? Oh the irony... I love me some cubs, just trying to help him understand the "why and how" of things on these lovely forums. Continue reading to much into my troll posts.. it makes me lol. Here is a simpler version of what I said last: Community: Hey, this looks a lot like extortion lol.. stop taking advantage of newbs you big bullies. NF anybody: What? This isn't extortion, what would make you say that? Community: Because all you guys care about is profit? DERP!!! (except Kane, obviously.. thanks Kane!!) NF anybody: Oh, that makes sense. But nooooooo... god forbig the conversation went like that... the typical response is "LOL QQ MOAR NEWBS... WE DONT EVEN PROFIT FROM DIS! DO YOU EVEN LIFTS" etc etc. just sayin
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2453	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:01:00 - [206] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Lunatic Kota wrote: The fact that you are trying to make Cubs out to be some money hoarding warmonger makes me smile because it is sooooo accurate hahahahahaha. However, you're not making a point anyone already knows. Attempting to make a sad lonely point is just sad. . And you make a post to make your point that I was stating the obvious and its a sad point? Oh the irony... I love me some cubs, just trying to help him understand the "why and how" of things on these lovely forums. Continue reading to much into my troll posts.. it makes me lol. Here is a simpler version of what I said last: Community: Hey, this looks a lot like extortion lol.. stop taking advantage of newbs you big bullies. NF anybody: What? This isn't extortion, what would make you say that? Community: Because all you guys care about is profit? DERP!!! (except Kane, obviously.. thanks Kane!!) NF anybody: LOL QQ MOAR NEWBS... WE DONT EVEN PROFIT FROM DIS! DO YOU EVEN LIFTS Community: just sayin To soothe you Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1703	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:55:00 - [207] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Hey 82, I have to ask you a question, why would you ask me to ring in a battle against E.R.A.? Did you not know DF is on PFC? Surely you didn't know I sit on the council and deal with Kane on a regular basis. When you messaged me Fri night I was surprised. Now even more so because if you have to call on so called "scrubs" on PFC to ring against the people who are working with the PFC council, who the F are you gonna really get? Sorry but the BS has gone on to long with people posting on alts and you that have absolutely NO IDEA of the truth. This is when you must choose your next words carefully. I asked you to ring, because CA LLC was told to gather a team to attack an ERA district on about an hour's notice. Not enough CA LLC were online. AE was tied up (hence why they needed us to carry out there attack) and I think that was the night NS was also playing Escrow. We had maybe 8 CA LLC online at the time, and 4 DDB. We needed to find ringers, and fast. All the PC caliber players from BBW and Pradox were also not online. I knew you had PC Gamemode experience, so I asked you. You're allowed to ring for anyone as an individual off of PFC against whoever you want. It happens all the time in MH when friendships trump alliances and enemy lines. However, once we finally got to the Warbarge (AE didn't even have a ferry until 4 minutes after the Warbarge became available because they were in the middle of their own wars) it turned out to be an defend against FA, and we all know how that went... No offense, but PFC doesn't work. Kane can give you advice, and you can play mock PC all you want. But in MH, its much different. DF will only be viable when they play in MH and get their a** kicked a bunch of times before they start to get the hang of it. Its the only way. PFC doesn't work or teach anyone, anything. No PFC corp ever did anything, because its a lot like the battle academy. It falsely prepares you what's really out there. You're wasting your ISK and time on PFC. You want to get into PC, then I suggest opening the star map and sniping a district and seeing how it goes. A good example for my personal experience is; you can think you have decent gun game and sound strategy, but until you put that gun game and strategy to the test with Regynum across from you, you'll never know where you stand. As far as me being on alts. I was banned until last week on here. 82 is my main, and I have a lot set aside to help your alliance enter MH. My heart is always BBW. I ain't got time for dat sht!*
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 283	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:58:00 - [208] - Quote lol keep crying scrubs. You don't have the power, influence, capacity, or brains to pull anything off but tears. Now tell me more how unfair it is for groups stronger then you to do what they want. lololol Really. I gave up on PFC a long time ago. Community doesn't deserve it. Too many people like 84 around here who'd rather think with there ass then there brains. If it wasn't for Kane I'd of had it burned down a week after PFC Council was announced. Still find it hilarious it always the people with the same tag QQing about PFC. They've had to fall back on using alts to make sure people don't catch onto this. Lol
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 283	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:03:00 - [209] - Quote 8213 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: 8213 wrote: It is not fair they get an out and are able to participate in PC while I get benched by every corp I'm in. I don't even have the balls to join a PFC corp just to see a PC match because it might hurt my forum e-peen. The only option I have left is wine and cry about others succeeding and pretend I'm not envious. Translated through all the tears. I consider it my duty to help spread your message in a more clear, concise way. No need to thank me, peasant. How do you know that I haven't been on PFC in matches? How do you know that I'm actually in a corp that it's in an Alliance with a PFC corp and we play matches their often? Oh wait... you don't... you live in your own created world of what you think is happening around you. You act like some big kid on the block, when you're just the class clown that nobody has ever taken serious about anything. NF can't defend an attack on PFC, simple as that. If it wasn't for the fact that you had to pay to get on; then stay... PFC would be fine. Nobody would flip anything on it, because nobody cares to fight the scrubs that are on it. Maybe if PC wasn't just 3 corps/alliances their would be no need for PFC, but people like you, your corp, and your alliance made it that way. Create a false need, and fulfill it... its made you all very rich in this game. I see it as worse than NS spanking noobs in Ambush night after, after night. Unless its about Anime, STFU. You're not a spokesperson for PFC, your alliance, and anything. PFC doesn't work for those who participate in it, they just get their ISK taken, then kicked off for a subjective reason, by a subjective "council" that doesn't have any actual power or authority; and is self-serving hypocrisy. And, it's all ran by a guy who has direct CPM standing in this game, which is simply a conflict of interest; and has been proven to be displayed corrupt. Now, this is the part where you go through my post, and turn into clever thug-a-nomics because obviously you have too much time on your hands and probably should seek gainful employment in the real world. Ops I missed this rage post. Sorry to inform you I am a non voting member of PFC. Unlike you - I am involved. Though I've kept to the darkness and to myself as they did there own thing. So unless it's about going negative in pubs - you really don't know what you're talking about. Keep to General Discussion, that's where the rest of you blue berries belong. And thanks for ringing against us - I enjoyed the easier wins and ISK.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1804	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:10:00 - [210] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Lunatic Kota wrote: The fact that you are trying to make Cubs out to be some money hoarding warmonger makes me smile because it is sooooo accurate hahahahahaha. However, you're not making a point anyone already knows. Attempting to make a sad lonely point is just sad. . And you make a post to make your point that I was stating the obvious and its a sad point? Oh the irony... I love me some cubs, just trying to help him understand the "why and how" of things on these lovely forums. Continue reading to much into my troll posts.. it makes me lol. Here is a simpler version of what I said last: Community: Hey, this looks a lot like extortion lol.. stop taking advantage of newbs you big bullies. NF anybody: What? This isn't extortion, what would make you say that? Community: Because all you guys care about is profit? DERP!!! (except Kane, obviously.. thanks Kane!!) NF anybody: LOL QQ MOAR NEWBS... WE DONT EVEN PROFIT FROM DIS! DO YOU EVEN LIFTS Community: just sayin Just like the good ole days. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3076	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:43:00 - [211] - Quote actually its 'LiFTZ' grammar necessary You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 113	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:19:00 - [212] - Quote Its really silly that some morons want to come to my house that i pay upkeep so its stay clean and keep phoning me and my friends so we enter their alliances. I am keeping a very good record of which corp sends non sense our way, we will defintly not align with forum trolls, so ceo's lurking around please keep your dogs from shitting in my yard, indeed on march 11 you might see a guy shooting your yard up with a shotgun. Ask around if we have good aim with our ahotgun cause its scared the crap out of some of the most influencial corp of MH. We still have nuts and boltz to adjust... But it wont take long for us to jump in the melee soon.... Please carry on now...GÇª Quebec United CFO
Traky78 What The French 611	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:50:00 - [213] - Quote Because Traky's thread are always the best ! CEO of What The French.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1141	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:02:00 - [214] - Quote 8213 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Hey 82, I have to ask you a question, why would you ask me to ring in a battle against E.R.A.? Did you not know DF is on PFC? Surely you didn't know I sit on the council and deal with Kane on a regular basis. When you messaged me Fri night I was surprised. Now even more so because if you have to call on so called "scrubs" on PFC to ring against the people who are working with the PFC council, who the F are you gonna really get? Sorry but the BS has gone on to long with people posting on alts and you that have absolutely NO IDEA of the truth. This is when you must choose your next words carefully. I asked you to ring, because CA LLC was told to gather a team to attack an ERA district on about an hour's notice. Not enough CA LLC were online. AE was tied up (hence why they needed us to carry out there attack) and I think that was the night NS was also playing Escrow. We had maybe 8 CA LLC online at the time, and 4 DDB. We needed to find ringers, and fast. All the PC caliber players from BBW and Pradox were also not online. I knew you had PC Gamemode experience, so I asked you. You're allowed to ring for anyone as an individual off of PFC against whoever you want. It happens all the time in MH when friendships trump alliances and enemy lines. However, once we finally got to the Warbarge (AE didn't even have a ferry until 4 minutes after the Warbarge became available because they were in the middle of their own wars) it turned out to be an defend against FA, and we all know how that went... No offense, but PFC doesn't work. Kane can give you advice, and you can play mock PC all you want. But in MH, its much different. DF will only be viable when they play in MH and get their a** kicked a bunch of times before they start to get the hang of it. Its the only way. PFC doesn't work or teach anyone, anything. No PFC corp ever did anything, because its a lot like the battle academy. It falsely prepares you what's really out there. You're wasting your ISK and time on PFC. You want to get into PC, then I suggest opening the star map and sniping a district and seeing how it goes. A good example for my personal experience is; you can think you have decent gun game and sound strategy, but until you put that gun game and strategy to the test with Regynum across from you, you'll never know where you stand. As far as me being on alts. I was banned until last week on here. 82 is my main, and I have a lot set aside to help your alliance enter MH. My heart is always BBW. I have a pretty good grasp about PC as I have played quite a bit, and you have very good points that I will remember and take to heart. We have gotten the snot knocked out of us early on and are still around. PFC does work to a point as there are constant outside attacks leading you to find out who in your corp has the guts to do it every day, win or lose, you get a team sorted out. I agree with you on the past history of PFC and corps that didn't, but there are corps here that have a strong chance to survive and I think they will. Reg is a beast and most of the players in the 10% of players that control 90% of MH. I don't understand how you can say that battle experience other than lol pub's is not going to help. Sure we may not fight Regynum every day, but, we aren't playing randoms either. Would you not agree any kind of organized battle is better preparation for the rigors of PC than pubbing? Why didn't PFC work before? Most of the players in those corps that were here went to the big corps that are now in power, easier to join a powerhouse already established than stick with a smaller corp and claw your way up. I am sorry but unless you know what is going on here, you really don't know. We have some great fights between corps and great fights with outside forces, some have been damn close. I understand what it "looks" like to the community but none of us currently on planet are complaining, as we are here of our free will and the system is working well. However by the sounds of things it's about to get "real" around here. We'll see where the chips fall I guess, DF has come a long way with our top players and would like to continue doing what wer'e doing, but by the sounds of you and some of the other community, war is coming. Well should be interesting, after all this is a war game right? Stop being a bad boy and getting kicked from the forums,lol. Stay true to your heart. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2456	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:09:00 - [215] - Quote CYRAX I'd like to talk, do you have a skype? Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1142	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:35:00 - [216] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: CYRAX I'd like to talk, do you have a skype? Negative, I will send you a chat tonight when I get on game, about 7 pm est. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1704	Posted - 2014.03.11 03:41:00 - [217] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Stop being a bad boy and getting kicked from the forums,lol. Stay true to your heart. pssst... that's why they ban us... I ain't got time for dat sht!*
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 15	Posted - 2014.03.11 04:22:00 - [218] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Lunatic Kota wrote: The fact that you are trying to make Cubs out to be some money hoarding warmonger makes me smile because it is sooooo accurate hahahahahaha. However, you're not making a point anyone already knows. Attempting to make a sad lonely point is just sad. . And you make a post to make your point that I was stating the obvious and its a sad point? Oh the irony... I love me some cubs, just trying to help him understand the "why and how" of things on these lovely forums. Continue reading to much into my troll posts.. it makes me lol. Here is a simpler version of what I said last: Community: Hey, this looks a lot like extortion lol.. stop taking advantage of newbs you big bullies. NF anybody: What? This isn't extortion, what would make you say that? Community: Because all you guys care about is profit? DERP!!! (except Kane, obviously.. thanks Kane!!) NF anybody: LOL QQ MOAR NEWBS... WE DONT EVEN PROFIT FROM DIS! DO YOU EVEN LIFTS Community: just sayin I already forgot what we were talking about. There's a message in my Cheerios!
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1149	Posted - 2014.03.11 12:07:00 - [219] - Quote 8213 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Stop being a bad boy and getting kicked from the forums,lol. Stay true to your heart. pssst... that's why they ban us... Ahhhhh, got it, talk to you later. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 150	Posted - 2014.03.13 06:54:00 - [220] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It's not extortion, it's doing your share. But the point is, WTFA was better at meta than Subsonic. To my knowledge, they never paid the bill either. But they kept quiet, and so they weren't the first targeted. Then when the donations came along, and everyone got a free month, they were kept safe for a month. And still, they never got a chance to get removed for non-payment, they were removed because of a Council resolution. Basically, WTFA got a free month out of PFC because they knew when to shut up and stay quiet. ;) A lesson that perhaps Subsonic Synthesis members can learn from. ;) Ugh. I wasn't going to comment but with such a stupid post... I HAVE to. So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I am not on a computer so I cannot quote you but Cyrax you put something about being on the council who voted and it wasn't Speros doing. Am I correct? I remember when HE wrote the post about contacting CEOs you mentioned somewhere about wanting to be on PFC and voila you are in. You also become one of its cheerleaders. Just to be clear. You Were Not on PFC before Spero claimed it.

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1710	Posted - 2014.03.13 07:14:00 - [221] - Quote MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 35	Posted - 2014.03.13 07:18:00 - [222] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. Make me a graph and Caldari Cammando and I'll vote for you. There's a message in my Cheerios!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1710	Posted - 2014.03.13 07:24:00 - [223] - Quote I guess I should address this too: MoonEagle A wrote: I remember when HE wrote the post about contacting CEOs you mentioned somewhere about wanting to be on PFC and voila you are in. You also become one of its cheerleaders. Just to be clear. You Were Not on PFC before Spero claimed it. I've been on PFC since PFC first existed. I've been on there longer than Subsonic Synthesis by a long shot. (This is a good or bad thing depending how you view PFC, but I just want to be clear on the level of experience and involvement I have with PFC.) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2014.03.13 14:01:00 - [224] - Quote So now Sub not only pisses off the strongest group of vets in the game - they're now trying to **** off the meta-over-lords. Have fun being removed from PC over and over again....
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2014.03.13 14:09:00 - [225] - Quote Dude go watch an anime and shut up. You're a guard dog on a leash, nothing more or nothing less.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2014.03.13 14:22:00 - [226] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Dude go watch an anime and shut up. You're a guard dog on a leash, nothing more or nothing less. If it helps you sleep at night then go for it. I know how jealous many must be that they both can't compete and enjoy anime at the same time. But I try not to flaunt how much inferior you all are to me. But posts like yours really stroke my ego. Especially since I got such an upgrade! I went from 'just a forum troll' to a guard dog! Now let's see you go from an irrelevant alt to an irrelevant main.
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:04:00 - [227] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. (And honestly, this isn't me campaigning for your vote. There's a ton of incredible candidates running. But for the sake of the entire game community, please learn this distinction before you go to vote. A nasty player can be an excellent CPM, and a friendly player can be a lousy CPM.) I am very much aware of how this game works. That is why I used my beta access code to download the game but then stayed away for months. MAG was dying so I needed something to play and my clan mates were playing this. Its's not about "feeling better", it's about having integrity. We choose not to be "scumlords" because of who we are as people. I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut.
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:06:00 - [228] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I guess I should address this too: MoonEagle A wrote: I remember when HE wrote the post about contacting CEOs you mentioned somewhere about wanting to be on PFC and voila you are in. You also become one of its cheerleaders. Just to be clear. You Were Not on PFC before Spero claimed it. I've been on PFC since PFC first existed. I've been on there longer than Subsonic Synthesis by a long shot. (This is a good or bad thing depending how you view PFC, but I just want to be clear on the level of experience and involvement I have with PFC.) I believe I was addressing this to Cyrax. The HE is Spero. I apologize if I left his name out. I was writing this pretty late and I was distracted.
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:13:00 - [229] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: So now Sub not only pisses off the strongest group of vets in the game - they're now trying to **** off the meta-over-lords. Have fun being removed from PC over and over again.... My intention was only to address the Cyrax error and the part about keeping our mouths shut. I know you like start crap for your amusement but I appreciate it if you kept your trolling nose out of this. I am not spewing screw you all, we are better than you crap. I am just addressing two posts that I felt needed to be addressed. I suppose someone needs to have integrity here and I appear to be the only one. Don't ever tell me to keep my mouth shut. The world is full of evil people having their subjects keeping their mouth shut.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1712	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:29:00 - [230] - Quote MoonEagle A wrote: I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut. Again, you can play the game however you want. I'm just suggesting that if you speak up, you should know that makes you a target. So you shouldn't blame others when you become one. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:35:00 - [231] - Quote MoonEagle A wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: So now Sub not only pisses off the strongest group of vets in the game - they're now trying to **** off the meta-over-lords. Have fun being removed from PC over and over again.... My intention was only to address the Cyrax error and the part about keeping our mouths shut. I know you like start crap for your amusement but I appreciate it if you kept your trolling nose out of this. I am not spewing screw you all, we are better than you crap. I am just addressing two posts that I felt needed to be addressed. I suppose someone needs to have integrity here and I appear to be the only one. Don't ever tell me to keep my mouth shut. The world is full of evil people having their subjects keeping their mouth shut. Understandable, I'll leave ya be. Just try to go easy on Soyara, he doesn't have bad intentions. EvE guys don't think like the rest of us generally do, they've had to deal with CCP for so long they've become bitter, lol. I can feel the change in me too.
Moorian Flav 143	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:37:00 - [232] - Quote This is the only FPS I've seen where words get fired back and forth more than in game bullets. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:39:00 - [233] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: This is the only FPS I've seen where words get fired back and forth more than in game bullets. Only reason I choose this game over the others tbh. Just shooting a gun doesn't have that kick anymore, I need some **** talking to go with it. :D
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1216	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:41:00 - [234] - Quote Did I hear my name mentioned? What did I miss? CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Moorian Flav 144	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:50:00 - [235] - Quote Quote: Just shooting a gun doesn't have that kick anymore, I need some **** talking to go with it. :D Well, you are admittedly entertaining at times. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 125	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:52:00 - [236] - Quote Its like the walking dead series... people argue and then bullets fly... Quebec United CFO
Moorian Flav 144	Posted - 2014.03.13 16:05:00 - [237] - Quote Quote: Its like the walking dead series... people argue and then bullets fly... That's what DUST needs: zombies! Imagine a damaged CRU spawning in hordes of malformed clones... that crave flesh. Destroy the CRU before you are overran. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 3092	Posted - 2014.03.13 18:00:00 - [238] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Quote: Just shooting a gun doesn't have that kick anymore, I need some **** talking to go with it. :D Well, you are admittedly entertaining at times. NOOOOOOO take it back!!! don't give SoTa a.... compliment!!!! omfg guess we're all gonna have a 2 fer 1 churro sale at least You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 225	Posted - 2014.03.14 01:36:00 - [239] - Quote Wow people get mad on DUST, is it worse on EVE? EVE sounds fun, but it sounds like a major timesink.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 132	Posted - 2014.03.14 03:20:00 - [240] - Quote I compare Eve to a screen saver generating a fractal depending on user input over a spread sheet with the spa music making you fall asleep.... Quebec United CFO

xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.03.14 04:24:00 - [241] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut. Again, you can play the game however you want. I'm just suggesting that if you speak up, you should know that makes you a target. So you shouldn't blame others when you become one. And when you don't speak up , you are somone's puppet. I didn't see anything that was directing blame. It seems you are becoming upset that your idea of diplomacy is paying extortion and keeping your mouth shut as not to have anyone mad at you.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 1272	Posted - 2014.03.14 05:14:00 - [242] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut. Again, you can play the game however you want. I'm just suggesting that if you speak up, you should know that makes you a target. So you shouldn't blame others when you become one. And when you don't speak up , you are somone's puppet. I didn't see anything that was directing blame. It seems you are becoming upset that your idea of diplomacy is paying extortion and keeping your mouth shut as not to have anyone mad at you. #altsareforwimps! beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1984	Posted - 2014.03.14 05:51:00 - [243] - Quote I love this thread. I often feel people misunderstand us. We simply want to get good fights and make some isk. Now give us or any highly competitive fps player a reason to attack you and we are all over it. lets me honest here PC 1.0 is terrible and you really can't win at it because you have to fight again tomorrow. Removing a mouthy corp from PC for good thats winning at dust because its an accomplishment. As long as we have ****** PC 1.0 meta and trash talk will really be the only reason to play it because there is no real accomplishment in dust beyond that [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1259	Posted - 2014.03.14 13:26:00 - [244] - Quote I'll make more popcorn guys. CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
ER-Bullitt 1195	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:04:00 - [245] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I love this thread. I often feel people misunderstand us. We simply want to get good fights and make some isk. Now give us or any highly competitive fps player a reason to attack you and we are all over it. lets me honest here PC 1.0 is terrible and you really can't win at it because you have to fight again tomorrow. Removing a mouthy corp from PC for good thats winning at dust because its an accomplishment. As long as we have ****** PC 1.0 meta and trash talk will really be the only reason to play it because there is no real accomplishment in dust beyond that I killed you once in a pub, therefore you suck! Will post pics maybe later.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2467	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:54:00 - [246] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut. Again, you can play the game however you want. I'm just suggesting that if you speak up, you should know that makes you a target. So you shouldn't blame others when you become one. And when you don't speak up , you are somone's puppet. I didn't see anything that was directing blame. It seems you are becoming upset that your idea of diplomacy is paying extortion and keeping your mouth shut as not to have anyone mad at you. No one hiding behind a curtain ever got much done... Stand up. Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 822	Posted - 2014.03.15 22:39:00 - [247] - Quote Traky78 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: norttheantiv wrote: 8213 wrote: So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then? Hypocritical self-serving bullsht How is this relevant? What stops us being on PFC if we treat it in the correct way? If we get no special treatment then why should we not be part of the good fights? On a side note, thanks to VC for the fight last week, I'm looking forward to this week's too. You guys bring it. You guys are in the Negative-Feedback Alliance and obviously have to much association with PC Corps off of PFC. RE even fights in PC matches with NF. If that's good enough reason to kick off a training corp, then its good enough reason to kick YOU off. How come the "reasoning" of kicking off WTFA doesn't apply to RE when RE has more weight into that "reasoning" and less need to be on PFC. Its just NF doing self-serving bullsht. For once PFC showed it was working with WTFA, and of course NF wanted it snuffed out ASAP. Not a single corp on PFC ever amounted to anything, or even made a ripple it PC, because it doesn't work. PFC is just an exploitation farm. Kicking off WTFA with subjective reasoning is a perfect sign of corruption. Does RE really need to be on PFC? Are you guys in that much need of training to become a good corp? Yes we are in negative feedback, it's mad how that means we fight for them isn't it lol? Fighting for an alliance when you are a member of that alliance is not too unusual is it? Maybe I have misunderstood the reason for alliances in the first place. WTFA was locking its districts by attacking itself with WTF attacks. It was voted out by the council, NF just did the dirty work. Really nothing to do with us beyond that. It's just a job. If you look for TRE on the starmap you will not find us outside PFC, we are a Corp which needs to fill certain key positions in order to be effective in PC, that requires trials and training, where do people go to do that again? I liked you better when you sent stupid hate mail. I still fondly remember your one calling me an advanced stomper, no you just look foolish instead of cute. On a Sid note, I won't be responding to people who don't have the balls to post on their main. WTFA was locking its districts ? Why said bullshit ? We never locked our district on PFC because we enjoyed PFC ! Don't post if you know nothing of what's happening ! I like turtles. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2005	Posted - 2014.03.15 22:58:00 - [248] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Free Beers wrote: I love this thread. I often feel people misunderstand us. We simply want to get good fights and make some isk. Now give us or any highly competitive fps player a reason to attack you and we are all over it. lets me honest here PC 1.0 is terrible and you really can't win at it because you have to fight again tomorrow. Removing a mouthy corp from PC for good thats winning at dust because its an accomplishment. As long as we have ****** PC 1.0 meta and trash talk will really be the only reason to play it because there is no real accomplishment in dust beyond that I killed you once in a pub, therefore you suck! Will post pics maybe later. If there is one thing i am good at in dust its dying to noobs and random nade spam Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 195	Posted - 2014.03.16 00:15:00 - [249] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I'll make more popcorn guys. This is the longest PFC post ever your going to have to put out some chicken wings and a keg The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1305	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:01:00 - [250] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I'll make more popcorn guys. This is the longest PFC post ever your going to have to put out some chicken wings and a keg I'm thinking more like Cajun shrimp and scotch on the rocks... CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.

Derrith Erador The Panty Pugilists 1298	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:05:00 - [251] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I'll make more popcorn guys. This is the longest PFC post ever your going to have to put out some chicken wings and a keg I'm thinking more like Cajun shrimp and scotch on the rocks... I want some taco salad. Ah forget it, let's make it a potluck! The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1306	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:41:00 - [252] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I'll make more popcorn guys. This is the longest PFC post ever your going to have to put out some chicken wings and a keg I'm thinking more like Cajun shrimp and scotch on the rocks... I want some taco salad. Ah forget it, let's make it a potluck! I just had some taco salad for real!!! Added to menu... CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 139	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:52:00 - [253] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I'll make more popcorn guys. This is the longest PFC post ever your going to have to put out some chicken wings and a keg Yeah almost saturated from the notifications =ƒÿé Quebec United CFO
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 1	Posted - 2014.03.18 04:50:00 - [254] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. (And honestly, this isn't me campaigning for your vote. There's a ton of incredible candidates running. But for the sake of the entire game community, please learn this distinction before you go to vote. A nasty player can be an excellent CPM, and a friendly player can be a lousy CPM.) Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1393	Posted - 2014.03.18 12:05:00 - [255] - Quote Alaska Kilgannon wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. (And honestly, this isn't me campaigning for your vote. There's a ton of incredible candidates running. But for the sake of the entire game community, please learn this distinction before you go to vote. A nasty player can be an excellent CPM, and a friendly player can be a lousy CPM.) Diplomacy? Politics? Who needs that when we've all got guns? I think that I've learned what the true point of PFC is now from reading this entire thread. Sure districts can be applied for and rented and corps can train there and most importantly you can score lots of ISKies, but I think that a corps true mettle can be tested by trying to flip districts on PFC and attempting to hold them from NF taking them back. I don't really know of anyone stupid enough to try it, certainly not myself, but if said corp was able to take even a single district and fend off NF and all of its forces from retaking it, i'd say you'd have a pretty good shot at PC. You had better pack a big fuckin lunch and lots of ISK too if you're gonna have a go at it though. Go for it, I'll bring the popcorn... CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 1	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:48:00 - [256] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Alaska Kilgannon wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. (And honestly, this isn't me campaigning for your vote. There's a ton of incredible candidates running. But for the sake of the entire game community, please learn this distinction before you go to vote. A nasty player can be an excellent CPM, and a friendly player can be a lousy CPM.) Diplomacy? Politics? Who needs that when we've all got guns? I think that I've learned what the true point of PFC is now from reading this entire thread. Sure districts can be applied for and rented and corps can train there and most importantly you can score lots of ISKies, but I think that a corps true mettle can be tested by trying to flip districts on PFC and attempting to hold them from NF taking them back. I don't really know of anyone stupid enough to try it, certainly not myself, but if said corp was able to take even a single district and fend off NF and all of its forces from retaking it, i'd say you'd have a pretty good shot at PC. You had better pack a big fuckin lunch and lots of ISK too if you're gonna have a go at it though. Go for it, I'll bring the popcorn... Yeah right. I've got enough sense to know my place in PFC. And also. How about some buffalo wild wings instead? Popcorn is just empty calories lol. Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 152	Posted - 2014.03.22 15:56:00 - [257] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: I have read enough of your posts and frankly don't care for you and I can vote if and however I want. I certainly don't need a lecture on someone suggesting I keep my mouth shut. Again, you can play the game however you want. I'm just suggesting that if you speak up, you should know that makes you a target. So you shouldn't blame others when you become one. Did I blame others for us becoming a "target "? Hmmmm....... I wasn't aware that I did. Please do let me know how I did that. As far as I can remember, I have only been vocal about disagreeing with what was being done.
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 57	Posted - 2014.03.22 17:11:00 - [258] - Quote Good read. 8/10. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over!
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1464	Posted - 2014.03.22 21:54:00 - [259] - Quote It was entertaining wasn't it... CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
CookieStein G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 270	Posted - 2014.03.22 22:01:00 - [260] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: So you think we should have kept our mouth shut on something we didn't agree with and kept quiet? Where is the honor in that? We stood up for what we believed to be right. We may have lost but at least we stood up for ourselves and stayed true to ourselves. Oh PLEASE tell me someone like you is NOT going to be CPM. Bad enough Spero is one. I'm saying this is a game of diplomacy and politics. And saying things that make you the first target of the most powerful alliance in the game come after you first is dumb. That's all. If you feel you were "standing up for what's right", and that makes you feel better, that's fine, but the point is, the immediacy of your removal was, in fact, your own fault. In this game, you're responsible for your actions, and the consequences they bring. ^ This is how the game is played. Pretty much everything that happens in the War Room on the forums is called "the metagame". It's a part of the game. And you play it however you choose. This can include being a scumlord, or a charitable person. (Nice people finish last in New Eden, fair warning.) What you don't seem to understand, is the CPM is not part of the game. Alliances, districts, war, is in-game. CPM is out-of-game. When I point out to you your diplomacy/politics skill is bad, I do so as Soraya Xel, someone who organizes an alliance, and works with a group of dedicated corporate leaders to create the PFC Council. When I run to represent you to CCP, I do so as Jacob Weisz, a mild-mannered tech nerd with an affinity for spreadsheets and pretty graphs. There is a distinct difference that I hope you can learn to appreciate. (And honestly, this isn't me campaigning for your vote. There's a ton of incredible candidates running. But for the sake of the entire game community, please learn this distinction before you go to vote. A nasty player can be an excellent CPM, and a friendly player can be a lousy CPM.) Hmm...one could easily interpret you as saying that CPM is meta and hence actually part of the game. Was that your intention?

Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 478	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:04:00 - [261] - Quote The thread continues!? Can we keep going and make it to Season 3? Just when you thought I couldn't become more immature and crazy... I prove you wrong...
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 63	Posted - 2014.03.23 01:18:00 - [262] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: The thread continues!? Can we keep going and make it to Season 3? only if someone dies in season 3 CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over!


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