DUST Search - And so ERA is attacking us on PFC

Soraya Xel wrote:

Mr Machine Guns wrote:

But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended

It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC.

Mr Machine Guns wrote:

PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other

PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war.

bigolenuts wrote:

PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success.

Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp.

As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San.

I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with FA's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take?

Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+


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XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 758	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:16:00 - [1] - Quote Point on the Doll where the tank touched you Cubs :-D Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 760	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 - [2] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote: PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote: PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success. Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with FA's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? FTFY Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 760	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:37:00 - [3] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! That might be the most logical PR campaign they could ever launch... too bad it will never happen! Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.