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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:18:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote:PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote:PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success.
Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with AE's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp?? I'm pretty sure it's located on one galaxy not on one planet
It doesn't matter what the Question is...
The Answer is NO!
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
760
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote:PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote:PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success.
Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with FA's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? FTFY
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ER-Bullitt
1163
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:22:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it,
We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp
Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team.
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
2427
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:25:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:But you aren't on PFC either so why do you care what I'm writing I'm just voicing my opinion about PFC, it just seems like the council is taking a very long time to set up rules and i think the council is a bad idea because it just might lead to corps staying longer then intended It's not your decision how long people are "intended" to remain on PFC. While my corp is not on PFC, I do on occasion play in an alliance PFC fight, and even though that isn't frequent anymore (we have a lot of newer players who want a crack at it), I support my alliance. And my alliance benefits from PFC. Mr Machine Guns wrote:PFC rules will effected everyone because if alliances hold district both on PFC and outside PFC, and a war happens what are the PFC district off limits or are they fair game because those two alliances are fighting each other PFC is neutral ground, it should not be warred over. There is a rule already in place forbidding the use of clones from PFC districts in attacks on outside districts, so you can rest assured that PFC districts cannot pose a threat to you in a time of war. bigolenuts wrote:PFC doesn't work. It just an ISK sink for others to get rich on. I asked about 3 weeks ago for someone to show proof that PFc actually worked. Meaning, a Corp was there, got themselves trained then moved into the rest of MH and had success.
Most of you nerds are all about posting pics and info, dig that one up please. Lets see how PFC has helped a corp. As many others have noted, there's fundamentally no way for a corp that isn't a top corp to become a top corp as long as all the supposed top tier players take the easy way out and buddy up with other folks that are already at that level. (I have a longstanding belief many of them would be great trainers and platoon leaders that could develop newer players into a fighting force, if they gave it a shot.) But corps exist on activity, the chance to have good fights. PFC allows corps to exist and thrive on the fact that they can play against other corps on PFC. Without having to be able to compete with Ancient Exiles or Nyain San. I've seen a lot of Renegade Alliance folks suggesting there should be a term limit to being on PFC. But the real question is: How many matches do you think it should take a newbie corp to practice in PC before they should be able to compete with OLSPI's A-team? At three matches a week, how long is it going to take? FTFY there now it really fixed..
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
498
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:28:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it,
We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team. You are forking dense man.
by we i meant the dust community and about my last point, you get off PFC why would the first thing you do is to go after AE makes not sense
The new CEO of FA
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CookieStein
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
256
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:30:00 -
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Not sure where this thread is heading as its been all over the place but NS was brought into EoN because they represented a time zone we didn't have and it kept the advantage of that time zone out of someone else's hands...I was the only one against NS joining and same goes for OH. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1646
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:31:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit.
And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet.
Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located!
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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ER-Bullitt
1164
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:33:00 -
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Good idea.. Nyain San can start their own PFC, setup their own council, their own police department, etc.
It can be the bizzaro-pfc
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1646
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:35:00 -
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Well, since Machine Guns suggested a second planet, if his corp would be so kind... we could have Constellation Fight Club. The CFC. in DUST. ;)
^- This is an EVE joke. Some of you will completely miss the humor. I'm sorry for you.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1837
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:35:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote: we can set up another planet for it,
We? You are not a part of the we, neither am I, nor anyone else not on PFC, not a part of the council, or not a part of the police force. You want to have a vote, quit your corp and go join one of them. derp Quote: One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
He said that to make a correlation of why PFC exists.. to prepare new corps (which includes new players aka the lifeblood of keeping this ******* game alive) for the big show. The big show includes, but is not limited to, being successful on the field of battle similar to AE's A-team. You are forking dense man. by we i meant the dust community and about my last point, you get off PFC why would the first thing you do is to go after AE makes not sense I think he means the other way around. Corp "A" leaves PFC and takes a district from Corp B AE proceeds to curb stomp them into oblivion and take their district.
It doesn't matter what the Question is...
The Answer is NO!
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
760
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:37:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! That might be the most logical PR campaign they could ever launch... too bad it will never happen!
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:41:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Good to know, Men in Blops is a good squad. And to correct you, NF was sent to police what was supposed to be a friendly match ML setup against The Phoenix Federation about two weeks ago. So I am a bit confused when you would say something like this: Sota wrote: Until PFC gets it's act together we won't be sent out to enforce policies that don't exist yet - and if we aren't sent out on enforcement we don't get paid. NF's interest would be for the council to decide on rules so we can get to work. Clearly you guys have been policing, right? Therefore getting paid to do so, right? Corps have been removed, right? Lets keep it one hundid Are you purposely being blind?
Even without the new policies there are some very CLEAR rules to PFC. So some regulation can take place.
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ER-Bullitt
1165
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:44:00 -
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Dafuq? Why are you looking for a fight when there is none. If you don't want me to correct you, be more specific next time. Douchenozzle.
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xMaggot Brainx
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:48:00 -
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NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets |
NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
164
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:49:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located!
That's the thing I disagree with...
I mean..if I was a small corp and only owned one district then yeah you'd need to call in a big guy to help...but if I owned a few districts..or had alliance help...NF and FA and AE only have one elite team to play with each.
Why not stack yourselves and take someone else's?
PC can be a game of numbers...the problem is the price for clone packs...when it's cheaper to send 300 clones from a prod facility than send a clone pack for 36 mil...we have an issue.
I'm CEO, Bitch
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1647
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:56:00 -
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Noblesse, the issue is, corps with a lot of districts have enough ISK saved up to just reclaim anything they lose shortly after. And the FEC discovered that 4 TeamPlayers can take on a team of 16 poor players pretty well too, so the idea of stacking timers didn't even help them that much. And if they get too burdened, these corps with a large existing pool of districts can afford to take the cost even once district locking gets fixed, of locking up districts for a cost, in order to minimize the threat to a manageable size.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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ER-Bullitt
1165
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Posted - 2014.03.07 22:12:00 -
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xMaggot Brainx wrote: now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets
+1 ... I did find it funny that dude blantly said "we need PFC policies so people can break them and I can get paid". lulz.... I understand why, believe me... its part of this game just like being a bad heavy, but dafuq would you say something like that out loud.
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
521
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Posted - 2014.03.07 22:33:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:your last point makes no sense and you said this before how many do you think you need to be ready for AE. a team? the reason why there needs to be a limit is because PFC is just on one planet maybe if CCP opens up more district we can set up another planet for it, just with the one planet atm is why i believe there needs to be a time limit, One last thing based on your last paragraph why would a corp go after AE. and want to fight their A team that makes no sense would it be wiser to attack a different corp??
Because the way PC mechanics work, if you can't defend your district from an AE A-team, or Nyain San, or ERA, there's really no reason to even be in regular PC, because you won't survive long enough to make a profit. And PFC can technically expand, the choice to limit it to Oddelulf may be somewhat arbitrary, as district distance isn't that relevant. Though it'd be nice to get everything procedural nailed down before we talk about whether or not PFC should include a second planet. Would Nyain San like to donate Bosena to PFC? Being next door, it's conveniently located! Would like an answer. Will Nyan San provide Bosena for PFC? Perhaps it could be for corps with 12-19 timers. |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:04:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Dafuq? Why are you looking for a fight when there is none. If you don't want me to correct you, be more specific next time. Douchenozzle.
Go home sota, you're washed up I have no idea what you're talking about? It sounded like you were the one picking the fight? Corrected me on WHAT? Please quote the line you're correcting and how you corrected it?
I will admit I am very high right now and possibly missed something or said something in a way that could mean something I didn't intended - so clarification would be appreciated. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1099
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:30:00 -
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xMaggot Brainx wrote:FYI , it was Kain Spero who approached PFC landowners about creating a council in the first place. So feel free to direct any comments you wish towards him. furthermore he demanded payment to stay on PFC.
GOOD LITTLE PFC PUPPETS, DONT MAKE YOUR MASTER KAIN UPSET.
I am no puppet sir, someone finally stepped up with a system that works and works very well. Kane is not my master, but a friend as every dealing I have had with him has been nothing but positive with advice for making myself and my corp successful.
The council is a success as we have a working relationship between corps involved and our PMC, "private military contractor'. EVERY corp here is free to leave of their own free will as having a PFC district is a privilege, not a right, however protection for that privilege has a price that we pay willingly.
Just to clear things, the council was started by the council, not Kane Spero. He and E.R.A. were retained by the council such as a lawyer would be retained for legal services. However he stepped up and offered management services which is a big help as PFC has never been better since it's conception a long time ago.
Please post on main, thank you.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1099
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:34:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Please clarify, PFC is to train corps for PC but PC is pretty much locked? Who's fault is that?
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1099
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:41:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:I'm confused...
GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up.
Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out???
Idk...
All I know is I like this thread. Screw popcorn, pass the seasoned curly fries with hotwings. If you have a battle with one of GTA's corps on PFC you get all that corps members, not father corps players, there is a big difference.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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8213
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
1678
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:54:00 -
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So, why is The Rainbow Effect on PFC then?
Hypocritical self-serving bullsh*t
Fish in a bucket!
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1918
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:44:00 -
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xMaggot Brainx wrote:NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets
I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming.
As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs"
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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Derrith Erador
Kameira Lodge
1213
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:48:00 -
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a cute kitten picture.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
Now a level 1 forum warrior.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1841
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:54:00 -
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I will never click one of your links again.
It doesn't matter what the Question is...
The Answer is NO!
Team carry Prof. IV
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Derrith Erador
Kameira Lodge
1214
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:59:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I will never click one of your links again. I'll make it up to you.
unless you don't like sausage.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
Now a level 1 forum warrior.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.08 11:41:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:xMaggot Brainx wrote:NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming. As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs" See, beers understands.
Nice to see you back by the way...
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3054
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:02:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Ok that maybe true but why are you removing a corp from PFC is it because that one policy has been set up and its about having a certain amount of district outside of PFC??
I thought NF received a certain amount of isk every week not just when they need to enforce the rules of NF, Actually, the Council revised it's financing agreement with N-F since then. And several rules and policies have been set up. I don't think the Council feels ready to make them a public document yet though.
Because the only people it concerns are the residents of PFC and NF.
To all the other trolls...the public restroom is to the right
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3054
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:04:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:xMaggot Brainx wrote:NF and Kain Spero bullied their way onto the PFC scene, now that want action so they can profit from the PFC puppets I had almost convinced NF to just take PFC and sell it off for isk before Kain intervened. I would have suceeded too if it wasn't for him meddling in my tear farming. As the saying goes in dust "If you can't take it, buy it. If you can't defend it, f**k it and play pubs"
Had me sold. I like fire
but noooooo.. granpappy kane had to step in wave his stick at everyone, and thus PFC lives on
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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