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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1275
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Posted - 2014.03.07 05:55:00 -
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At least NF has a "purpose." Everyone else is just farming for the sake of farming. Can't hate 'em because there's only so much to do but it's still kinda depressing.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
490
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:00:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think.
but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow
The new CEO of FA
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Omareth Nasadra
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
328
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:07:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Do all the Quebecers post their grievances publicly? Are you going to make a thread every time you are attacked? Might want to check with the PFC council. Or just give one of your many districts to your training corp. just so you know WTF are not quebecers, they from France
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:20:00 -
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IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts. |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:22:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:For those who may wish to claim it was done improperly, a vote was conducted, and it passed six to one for the removal of WTFA. WTF has twelve districts they can practice on. This is the end of the thread. WTF has enough resources to provide WTFA plenty of PC experience.
Like this guy. You have no say in what they do. You are just an enforcer, correct? |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:41:00 -
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Please clarify, PFC is to train corps for PC but PC is pretty much locked? |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:42:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think.
If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff. |
NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
154
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:42:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote: If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff.
lol
I'm CEO, Bitch
Incentivizing n00bs to carry me cir.12/13
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1906
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:38:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Insert spoon
N.F. is now the biggest enemy! Look at what they do!
Stir, whip, stir...Taste!
awe I miss drunken Taste. Also you are just jelly you are in the baddie corp anymore.
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1906
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:41:00 -
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usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote:Traky78 wrote:Why ? The official answer is because WTFA is affiliated with What The French...seriously Kain ?
I'll repeat again :
What The French Acad+¬mie is a school corp, she trains French newberrys since the begining of the Planetary Conquest ! We never locked our district on PFC and we never enforced any rules !
We'll fight for our newbs !
Traky, I'll message you in game in about 3 hours, ill be off work then. I would like to help out.
Thought you guys were busy losing your own districts? Now you want to help other people lose too? Don't you have better things to do?
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1635
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:00:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow
I do actually make a distinct point NOT to talk to my alliance members on the Council about the Council. We call a vote when there's three or more people pushing for the same action. Doesn't matter which Council members they are, or whether or not I agree with it. They vote their own opinions, and get no special treatment.
bigolenuts wrote:IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts.
He's a non-voting participant on the board. Technically he isn't "on the Council", but he needs to be present to interact with Council members.
Krixus Flux wrote:If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff.
My posts here (except for maybe the original PFC Council thread post) aren't really official. It's just my opinions, plus facts that I know because I can see what's going on. My statements doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the Council. I did step in and clarify though that WTFA was voted out by the Council, which is a fact. And a statement of the Council's opinion, I suppose.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:48:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I do actually make a distinct point NOT to talk to my alliance members on the Council about the Council. We call a vote when there's three or more people pushing for the same action. Doesn't matter which Council members they are, or whether or not I agree with it. They vote their own opinions, and get no special treatment. bigolenuts wrote:IS Kain on the council? He should be if he is. He shouldn't even be privy to any information of why someone is being removed. Just saying. If he is on the council that comes in to play in an odd way I'd say. A conflict of interest. of sorts. He's a non-voting participant on the board. Technically he isn't "on the Council", but he needs to be present to interact with Council members. Krixus Flux wrote:If you're secretary then why are you doing PR? You just file stuff. My posts here (except for maybe the original PFC Council thread post) aren't really official. It's just my opinions, plus facts that I know because I can see what's going on. My statements doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the Council. I did step in and clarify though that WTFA was voted out by the Council, which is a fact. And a statement of the Council's opinion, I suppose.
No, he shouldn't be involved. He should just get orders. There is no interaction needed except to get orders like a little puppy dog. |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
242
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:52:00 -
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Please, be aware that the term 'secretary' was used in it's own context and is in no way involved with the duty or workload of the PFC's Council Administrator.
Continue as you were, peasants. |
8213
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
1673
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:08:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused.
This end has been paved with your own decisions.
So, what happens if Escrow fails? What happens when you start picking on people who can actually stand up to you?
Fish in a bucket!
Darken's Testament
SKIPPY
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weccer
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:03:00 -
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8213 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:The council voted and passed the enforcement resolution for your removal due to WTF's extensive land holdings outside of PFC and the direct relationship between WTFR and WTFRA in violation of rules passed by the council. You were even offered to be paid for your district to peaceful leave and you refused.
This end has been paved with your own decisions. So, what happens if Escrow fails? What happens when you start picking on people who can actually stand up to you? Idk, just ask your alliance. They seem to be doing very well right now. |
olssam 62
What The French
84
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:57:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Traky78 wrote: Yes, this little war against STB was fun and we had really no choice that use our PFC one.
Not looking to start anything just what to point out the fact that WTF came to us asking for a truce when they ran out of ISK because they lost 90% of the battles. All intense fun fights but when you say little war don't forget who won that war.
we took one district, almost 2 your call almost any public disorder to lock our districts your ceo came to talk to us and ask us to stop this attack and he gave us one district.
here is the true story
ERA good luck for Saturday.
give them 8 million isk for their services ... let me laugh
the pfc is officially dead
an alliance that wants to make isk on the backs of small and medium corporations ...
fortunately what the french is the fight against corruption imposed some players here.
dsl my translation
version fr
ERA bonne chance pour samedi.
leurs donner 8 millions d'isk pour avoir leurs services... laissez moi rire
le pfc est officiellement mort
une alliance qui veut se faire de l'isk sur le dos des corporations petites et moyennes...
heureusement que what the french est la pour lutter contre la corruption qu'impose certains joueurs ici.
dsl de ma traduction
Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
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smartlayer
What The French Red Whines
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:10:00 -
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BTW....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsg8JccRZCw |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3042
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:12:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow
I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty.
heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night.
no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush.
#tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
492
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:21:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty. heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night. no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush. #tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo
Not in the PC last night so have no idea what you are talking about, all I'm saying is this council thing seems like they are taking there time to set up the rules when it is the simplest thing to do i can set up rules for PFC in one to two days that will be easy and simple to follow. District we never took what are you talking about? Wow we lost a PC last night too big deal
The new CEO of FA
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3045
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:44:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:but you aren't on PFC so why are you in the council I'm sort of the secretary. I set up the vote threads, close the vote threads, etc. You do not want a Council member to do that since their district may be removed. And you do not want Spero to do it, since then he might have too much say in what does and doesn't reach the voting floor in the Council. The role I fill should also have a procedure for the Council to replace me as well, but we haven't gotten there yet, I think. but you being a secretary can lead to you being biased because you might favor corps in your alliance,i just feel this council is a terrible idea and i feel i can 10 rules max that will be simple and easy to follow I feel Nyain San riding the jock of whoever is currently in Power and hiding behind timers on districts they never took, aside from using their clones is a travesty. heard about your stellar performance in not being able to defend your alliance's district last night. no big deal tho right? It wasnt yours and for some reason PC is tankbush. #tankspamdoesntworkinPC#gettheMeMo Not in the PC last night so have no idea what you are talking about, all I'm saying is this council thing seems like they are taking there time to set up the rules when it is the simplest thing to do i can set up rules for PFC in one to two days that will be easy and simple to follow. District we never took what are you talking about? Wow we lost a PC last night too big deal edit: This thing about our timers never gets old, oh they are unfair to us its not our fault the majority of NS players are from Japan and heres the funny thing you never here our japanese players say anything about timers unfair to them, and i have said this in previous post that if our timers where in the majority of people's playing time we would have no were near the number of district NS has right now
not what im saying.. I AM saying NS took roughly 17% of what they own. the other 83% were simply with their clones, then moved to the timer that no one cares to mess with.
I wasn't there last night either, and im not talking about the district my guys required 2 matches to flip a hub with NS defending (good job Nyain.. KEQ can do better than that FYI)
Im talking about the fact that you cant defend a single district at a time, let alone 61.
its unfortunate this idiotic community doesn't just send a pile of clone packs at you and take yo $hit.
we did, but my guys valued sleep way more than waking up to play a LoL match vs Nyain Scrubs
why u think u have land?
lucky for u, you guys pay well, which is basically the unsung STB model.
that's ok this is just another shining example that NS have been bandwagon nobodies since the beginning.
well ill correct myself, you were only SEMI-nobodies when Dia Farron still played, him with milkman made NS at least somewhat competitive.
#TankSpams4SiSSieS
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
465
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:13:00 -
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I'm confused...
GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up.
Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out???
Idk...
All I know is I like this thread. Screw popcorn, pass the seasoned curly fries with hotwings.
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
758
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:16:00 -
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Point on the Doll where the tank touched you Cubs :-D
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1641
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:23:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:I'm confused...
GTA has alliance members with districts on PFC and they stay despite having FA to back them up.
Yet WTF gets their training corp kicked out???
The by-and-large difference is that General Tso's is not a particularly integrated alliance. The corps who have PFC districts largely are fighting entirely their own battles. Whereas WTFA's district is half or more WTF members every fight. And WTFA is a training corp for WTF, not just "another corp in the alliance".
Sure, the distinction isn't 100% cut and dry, but that's why we have a Council that can vote on these things as a community.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
495
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:25:00 -
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But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want?
I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers.
NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance?
A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them
But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended
Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
966
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:46:00 -
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While I dont have any dog in this fight, I am interested to see what the French can do.
Oh yea and hearing about Nyain Spam getting beat makes me happy =D. Spam artists. No doubt they will go back to stomping new players in pub matches.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
4969
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:03:00 -
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Listen, I be goin ta be tha voice of reason here, What Da Frence. Yo ass have 12 districts outside Planetary Fight Club, I be thinkin it is unreasonable ta have one there ta do yo' hustlin. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Surely you can bust clones from one of yo' nuff districts ta practice, biatch? Or even use tha 'Locked' battlez ta stage a hustlin ground fo' yo' freshly smoked up playas.
ISK Milkshakes for all (Except the Pubbies)
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3047
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:06:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want?
I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers.
NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance?
A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them
But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended
Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game
Simple. Nyain has no talnet on their own times. Likely because the japanese games have altered their own gaming times to play when late eu/na are on...u know, where the competition is.
the best NS can field can be on at these times, where like u said u cant defend a wet fart underwater in a cave on your own times. Its not humiliating, its just fact. Pubs are more challenging.
Put your timers, even only a few at a time, on american times.
o thats right, then pfc corps could expand and random pub groups could make a corp and get land.
stop defending a corp that has never had any talent aside from 3 people. Havent been able to wipe their own asses without help, and most definitely have no say in what happens in molden heath
you just happen to be in the fortunate position of having a greater pile of isk than anyone.
you say im wrong? Put your timers on american, see how long they last
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
692
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:12:00 -
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There is nothing stopping the WTFA from getting their practice in via attacks, is there?
That's what we do. Of course, there's an agreement that we won't take the district, but if this is about practice for your newer players, that shouldn't be an issue. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1642
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:14:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Listen, I be goin ta be tha voice of reason here, What Da Frence.
When Knight Soiaire is the voice of reason, the thread has ended, and things have gone off the deep end. You can all stop now. o.O
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
495
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:14:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:But saying got district because of the amount of clones we sent makes no sense to me, because isn't one of the main advantages of having district is to send what ever amount of clones we want?
I said this before if we were on regular timers we wouldn't have as many district as NS has now, I'm agreeing with you there but it just happens the majority of our players are Japanese so there nothing really we can do about the timers.
NS bandwagon but what corp really hasn't done that, NS joined NF but didn't NF leave NS without the alliance they joined? I can link a post about someone in NF being very happy that NS joined that alliance. Yes NS joined EoN. towards the end but i wasn't there when they first joined but from what i understand you guys accepted them in EoN. If they had the reputation why did you accept them into your alliance?
A month or two ago RND, VALOR, FA launched a attack on our districts at the same time one district was flipped i can link the vids to them
But heres the thing why are you trying to get off topic, nothing i said was about PC i was just voicing my opinion on PFC and how i think this council is a bad idea, all I'm saying is i can think of easy and simple rules to follow for PFC, all I'm saying is that the council is just a way for corps to stay longer then intended
Last thing why does everyone on the forums try to humiliate NS its not like they smack talk you guys, In fact people like milkman might be one of the nicest players on this game Simple. Nyain has no talnet on their own times. Likely because the japanese games have altered their own gaming times to play when late eu/na are on...u know, where the competition is. the best NS can field can be on at these times, where like u said u cant defend a wet fart underwater in a cave on your own times. Its not humiliating, its just fact. Pubs are more challenging. Put your timers, even only a few at a time, on american times. o thats right, then pfc corps could expand and random pub groups could make a corp and get land. stop defending a corp that has never had any talent aside from 3 people. Havent been able to wipe their own asses without help, and most definitely have no say in what happens in molden heath you just happen to be in the fortunate position of having a greater pile of isk than anyone. you say im wrong? Put your timers on american, see how long they last
Clearly you can't read because i have said this twice in this topic, if our timers were set to the majority of the player base NS wouldn't have anything close to the amount of district they have, i have been agreeing with you on this point about our timers, but you didn't answer my other question, you say NS bandwagons but why did you let them join EoN. if they had the reputation???
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