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Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 316	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:40:00 - [1] - Quote Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF War never changes
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 834	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:42:00 - [2] - Quote Pull out an uplink or nanohive. They will back up and usually get stuck. Cowards. Who wants some?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11074	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:48:00 - [3] - Quote I wish CCP had the resources to program in exit / enter animations for vehicles (preferably staying in first person while doing so) Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Infamous Erich Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 110	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote Most of the time i get into a tank fight and the other tanker see's my name they start backing up into walls and then they overheat lol Closed Beta Vet Shield Tank Vet Bring back my Sagaris
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9349	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:21:00 - [5] - Quote Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Soldiersaint BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 726	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:26:00 - [6] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6639	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 But they will just get out and do their thing... Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 662	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:30:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wish CCP had the resources to program in exit / enter animations for vehicles (preferably staying in first person while doing so) I so want this. Until that time they could easily use placeholder animation to serve the same purpose. When you exit the vehicle use the stand up animation that's used in inertia dampeners. When you enter a vehicle just make it stall for a few seconds.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9350	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:32:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 But they will just get out and do their thing... Not everyone in a tank is a proto heavy. I find tanks running away much more problematic than drivers quickly exiting and killing me. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1147	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:33:00 - [10] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2868	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:33:00 - [11] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. When I think about people I wish I could throat check IRL from the forums it's posters like this that are at the top of the list. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2618	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:51:00 - [12] - Quote Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Intelligence is OP
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 842	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:56:00 - [13] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. spkr alt Who wants some?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1610	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF Just as i expected - the guy in the scout suit is the guy with the balls. well fought, though your opponent was a coward. I support SP rollover.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 845	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:58:00 - [15] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. the waves of opportunity are really them waving as they take that opportunity to enter the redline. Who wants some?
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 687	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:59:00 - [16] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 Better yet, slow them down natively, and increase swarm speed. Best PVE idea I've seen.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11094	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:03:00 - [17] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Glitch116 On The Brink CRONOS. 71	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:05:00 - [18] - Quote right now as a tanker scout suits are the scariest AV suit you can use hitting those damn coked up blue monkeys is a god damn nightmare I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1611	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:38:00 - [19] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 Better yet, slow them down natively, and increase swarm speed. Much more interesting with web grenades imo. Far more dynamic with tankers and AV both having to make hard decisions and take risks. I support SP rollover.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2618	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:53:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? Intelligence is OP

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 852	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:55:00 - [21] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? no. There was supposed to be a window too. CCP can't be expected to remember anything. edit: I meant everything. That was a slip that turned out for the best. Who wants some?
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 720	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:56:00 - [22] - Quote As of now tanks are just LAVs on steroids. They need to have reduced speed, so that there is actually a choice between retreating and staying in. As it is now tanks just roll in, kill whatever, activate hardeners when threatened, continue to kill whatever, then casually roll out 3 seconds before cooldown.
Onesimus Tarsus 1226	Posted - 2014.02.18 18:58:00 - [23] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. You just keep thinking that, Nancy. I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here. cc2.27.13
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 854	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:00:00 - [24] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: As of now tanks are just LAVs on steroids. They need to have reduced speed, so that there is actually a choice between retreating and staying in. As it is now tanks just roll in, kill whatever, activate hardeners when threatened, continue to kill whatever, then casually roll out 3 seconds before cooldown. why does infantry always tell us how to fit our tanks? You have no business commenting on our fate unless all 16 guys have skilled upto proto and launched a coordinated strike against me. I'm so skilled but wasn't any other patch. Who wants some?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11103	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:03:00 - [25] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? I just assumed CCP forget it like they forgot racial heavies, scouts, and vehicles Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 723	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:10:00 - [26] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Being a cowardly b!tch can be considered tactic. So can running to your Mommy when someone is mean to you, but it too is a cowardly b!tch tactic. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3442	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:13:00 - [27] - Quote I must agree, people that do this really suck. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game. Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7281	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:15:00 - [28] - Quote Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 957	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:16:00 - [29] - Quote I had something similar happen a while back, probably the same proto heavy guy. So, I run up on his tank, plant remotes start chunking grenades and BOOM, I detonate my remotes and he's almost dead, so his heavy hops out and I headshot it with my plasma cannon xD. I was so ecstatic about it that I stood still like a loony and got thale'd. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 723	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:19:00 - [30] - Quote If we ever get pilot suits I hope they are required to operate tanks and drop ships above militia level Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2619	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:31:00 - [31] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? no. There was supposed to be a window too. CCP can't be expected to remember anything. edit: I meant everything. That was a slip that turned out for the best. We dont need a window we have camera drones Intelligence is OP
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1846	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:10:00 - [32] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. spkr alt Not at all. But I agree with the statement. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1846	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:11:00 - [33] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF So you're pissed off you couldn't solo a tank. That explains a lot. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 723	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:22:00 - [34] - Quote I knew Spkr would show up. My IQ dropped I'm out. By the way nice job anyone that counters spkr and OP. FlayLock Pistol Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11116	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:32:00 - [35] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF So you're pissed off you couldn't solo a tank. That explains a lot. Actually he's pissed that the guy can teleport in and out of his vehicle as a crutch. That's been a problem for forever, and will likely stay a problem for a while. The tanker was already obviously a bad for sticking around to have REs placed on him, grenades tossed and swarms being fired, nevermind that he gets rewarded for being bad by having a teleport with a ton of EHP in and out of the vehicle. It's a crutch that's the result of poor development and little more. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1718	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:37:00 - [36] - Quote Sounds like Nyain San. Patrick57 Carries us all Tanker Prof. V scrub Q_Q moar
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 858	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:43:00 - [37] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? no. There was supposed to be a window too. CCP can't be expected to remember anything. edit: I meant everything. That was a slip that turned out for the best. We dont need a window we have camera drones of opportunity. You are almost as dense as spkr. Who wants some?
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 246	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:49:00 - [38] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Right, which is one of the reasons tanks will always be OP, they are a suit over another suit. They can be dropped and then put back on. Tankers should be stuck in their "tank suit" until they die or reach a supply point, just like everbody else. Because, that's why.
Yokal Bob G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 385	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:53:00 - [39] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. Hey if your shields and armour are nearly down on your dropsuit just stand still, you shouldn't be able to move.... Why? Well it makes sense if a tank can't take cover to regen like a dropsuit can Lord...some people! CPM1 candidate I want my logi tank back
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 749	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:59:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... You are aware that this sinario is an AV scout vs a tank AND A PROTO HEAVY! If that isn't being "under heavy enemy pressure" I don't know what is! Did the scout run away? NO! THE F***ING HEAVY DID! This was a 1v1 and scouts never run from a 1v1, they simply reposition themselves to take out the target (lose line of sight then flank around behind them for the kill) in which case they are not trying to recover (even if they have 0 armor) but are simply giving themselves an edge over there OP enemy. Will we run away if it's 1v2? Sometimes but even then 1 tank vs 2 AV = tank better run or he's an idiot (or just OP). This tanker had every advantage but both his gun game AND his tanking skills sucked and so he was forced to run his fat ass to the red line! @OP: Respect +1 Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 128	Posted - 2014.02.18 21:25:00 - [41] - Quote I like orange juice Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Soldiersaint BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 727	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:40:00 - [42] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. I don't care what you think. they made the game like this so he had every right to take advantage of the system. hes the smart player your the scrub. they made the game like this so if I were you I would shut my mouth.
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 163	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:18:00 - [43] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. I don't care what you think. they made the game like this so he had every right to take advantage of the system. hes the smart player your the scrub. they made the game like this so if I were you I would shut my mouth. Lol, they made the game full of exploits, so using those exploits is what smart people do, right? Welp, might as well use turbo controllers as well. All's fair in war. What other "tactic" am I missing out on?
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 857	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:25:00 - [44] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. I don't care what you think. they made the game like this so he had every right to take advantage of the system. hes the smart player your the scrub. they made the game like this so if I were you I would shut my mouth. lawl @ this kid telling STB director he's a scrub.
Eskimorris SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:33:00 - [45] - Quote The balanced fix: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=143008&find=unread
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 91	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:34:00 - [46] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Their quick retreat is the worst part of fighting tanks. We need stasis webs to slow them down https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141358 Or... Why doesn't a damaged tank slow down because of its damage?
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 91	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:44:00 - [47] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? no. There was supposed to be a window too. CCP can't be expected to remember anything. edit: I meant everything. That was a slip that turned out for the best. Teleporting is fine... INSTANTANEOUS teleporting is the issue. (If you're close enough, a pilot can hop out and kill you before you even get a target lock.)
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 92	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:49:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... LOL And you're comparing a tank (and pilot) with thousands of eHP and significant fire power to a sound with hundreds of eHP and a (nerfed) Light Weapon?
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 218	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:51:00 - [49] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... Of course we do. We just want you to 'think' we ran away, so we can flank you & shoot you in the back. & since when is 1 scout 'heavy enemy pressure', let alone against a Heavy in a HAV?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7295	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:52:00 - [50] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... LOL And you're comparing a tank (and pilot) with thousands of eHP and significant fire power to a sound with hundreds of eHP and a (nerfed) Light Weapon? No I am comparing two play styles that rely on solo work and decision making, and when under enemy pressure are required to pull out of the fight. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha

bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 93	Posted - 2014.02.19 00:00:00 - [51] - Quote True Adamance wrote: bogeyman m wrote: True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... LOL And you're comparing a tank (and pilot) with thousands of eHP and significant fire power to a sound with hundreds of eHP and a (nerfed) Light Weapon? No I am comparing two play styles that rely on solo work and decision making, and when under enemy pressure are required to pull out of the fight. Right. Except in this case, the tanker was actually playing two (2) roles at the same time... And still ran away.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7295	Posted - 2014.02.19 00:14:00 - [52] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: True Adamance wrote: bogeyman m wrote: True Adamance wrote: Does scout stand and fight when under heavy enemy pressure? As kings of running away lecturing other plays how they should conform to your ideals of gameplay is pretty poorly thought out and mild hypocritical.... LOL And you're comparing a tank (and pilot) with thousands of eHP and significant fire power to a sound with hundreds of eHP and a (nerfed) Light Weapon? No I am comparing two play styles that rely on solo work and decision making, and when under enemy pressure are required to pull out of the fight. Right. Except in this case, the tanker was actually playing two (2) roles at the same time... And still ran away. 2 roles? Which two are these? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1159	Posted - 2014.02.19 04:36:00 - [53] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you. Hey if your shields and armour are nearly down on your dropsuit just stand still, you shouldn't be able to move.... Why? Well it makes sense if a tank can't take cover to regen like a dropsuit can Lord...some people! Except dropsuits don't have 4000-5000 base HP, hardeners (which btw can be cycled allowing for permanent AV invulnerability), speeds of 20m/s, or the ability to be recalled at any location on the field. Also Shield tanks have passive reps just like dropsuits and armor reps are also passive just like dropsuits, so your point makes no sense. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 693	Posted - 2014.02.19 04:41:00 - [54] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? Fine- if there is no door, you can't enter a tank at all. Sorry buddy, your shortsighted and ill conceived arguments need revising Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Death Shadow117 Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1	Posted - 2014.02.19 04:46:00 - [55] - Quote WTF WTF WTF [/quote] thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more.[/quote] Tactics... ? Sounds like a scrub tanker / heavy. Tanks should not be able to recall their tanks while modules are on cool downs, or even retreat to the redline after entering the field of battle. Call in a tank and accept the vulnerability of cooldowns and face the enemy when AV or other tanks come after you otherwise you're just a scrub using tanks as a crutch who runs whenever someone actually tries to challenge you.[/quote] yup you're right carlos do you guys think after i kill a tank with my mods i run and recall nope if my mods have to cool down then they have to cool on ly scrubs run a tank that at every little hit they run ivr had 5 real tankf fights whrn the enemy and i actually fought instead of him runnin
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 134	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:12:00 - [56] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Then how come tankers didn't use "tactics" before 1.7? They just whined about AV until it got nurfed like those type of players always do. That's not tactics?! That's CCP' s uncanny ability to create inbalance. The amount of things they have brought into this game to help the guys who don't have true tactics is unreal. They need to stop creating things without weaknesses. Vehicle operators should be in vehicle operator suits. Not any other suit. So if he jumps out he's a dead man. That's fair since if he's in the tank he's f****** invincible. Scrambler rifles have great dmg, but are semi auto with heat build up. Heavies have a lot of hp, but there slow. Scouts are fast with little hp. Balance. Tankers are fast, with massive hp, range, lots of dmg, can detect proxies, swarms and other AV weapons were nerfed, and if there tank is destroyed they can just jump out in a heavy?!? Unbalance. I bet CCP can't say balance with a straight face. "Anybody order chaos?"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7309	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:37:00 - [57] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Then how come tankers didn't use "tactics" before 1.7? They just whined about AV until it got nurfed like those type of players always do. That's not tactics?! That's CCP' s uncanny ability to create inbalance. The amount of things they have brought into this game to help the guys who don't have true tactics is unreal. They need to stop creating things without weaknesses. Vehicle operators should be in vehicle operator suits. Not any other suit. So if he jumps out he's a dead man. That's fair since if he's in the tank he's f**** invincible. Scrambler rifles have great dmg, but are semi auto with heat build up. Heavies have a lot of hp, but there slow. Scouts are fast with little hp. Balance. Tankers are fast, with massive hp, range, lots of dmg, can detect proxies, swarms and other AV weapons were nerfed, and if there tank is destroyed they can just jump out in a heavy?!? Unbalance. I bet CCP can't say balance with a straight face. Tankers did before 1.7. Back before 1.7 there was a highly skilled and knowledgible player base of HAV pilots who could do ridiculous things in the face of poor game mechanics and horribly powerful AV. Now, post 1.7 vehicle apocalypse Tankers require no skill at all, anyone can do it, .0SP and 70k isk is all you need. However even post 1.7 you still have a higher class of tanker would can wipe the floor with the newer, less experienced crowd. Just ignore anyone who thinks 1.7 tanking is difficult or requiring skill. Its ** easy compared to how it used to be. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 334	Posted - 2014.02.19 07:34:00 - [58] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away HAHAHA yeah right I will ignore the heavy and go ( for the now empty tank ) LOLOLOLOLOL here is some intel for you; 1 if he just farts my way I am dead 2 if I start to strafe/jump ignoring him I will run out of stamina 3 you are a scrub Ps to al ( yeah al ) that have posted and/or liked in this thread Thank you I was in a dark place after this, guess there is some love in New Eden after al G¥ñRegardsG¥ñ War never changes
Our Deepest Regret L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 505	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:01:00 - [59] - Quote Sticking around when you're losing is stupid. The Tanker did the right thing. If he was using a rail tank and wasn't on the Red line, that just makes him a stand-up guy.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 752	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:04:00 - [60] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I like orange juice Orange juice? ORANGE JUICE!? OOOOORANGE JUUUUUUUUUUUUUICE!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Me too Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 334	Posted - 2014.02.19 11:33:00 - [61] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: Sticking around when you're losing is stupid. The Tanker did the right thing. If he was using a rail tank and wasn't on the Red line, that just makes him a stand-up guy. Are you serious ? The problem is that one guy can fill 2 roles. I have to sacrifice everything to go AV. In this encounter I would have killed him in 1 sec if I cold wave a magic wand and go from AV outfit to infantry killer outfit instantly. The instant pop in pop out is a fu+ºking joke. It should have like a delay to get out or in after the first time you jump in. The other thing is that if the tank is unmanned the timers/repers/rechargers are turned of so the tank is in the exact same shape as when you left it. But hey that's my opinion only War never changes
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2632	Posted - 2014.02.19 11:56:00 - [62] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Right, which is one of the reasons tanks will always be OP, they are a suit over another suit. They can be dropped and then put back on. Tankers should be stuck in their "tank suit" until they die or reach a supply point, just like everbody else. Yea just let me drive up these stairs Oh sorry i cant do that Intelligence is OP
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2632	Posted - 2014.02.19 11:59:00 - [63] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Looks like the pilot is OP We dont have pilot suits, so whatever suit we use to pilot offers nothing to the vehicle so sure i could use a proto HMG and heavy suit and nip out and kill you then get back in He had a heavy and planned for the worst it seems and while you were occupied with killing him instead of his vehicle it gave the vehicle enough time to start clawing back its HP so then by the time you nearly kill him he just got back in and drop away Doesn't change the fact that teleporting in and out of vehicles is stupid. Do you see a door? Fine- if there is no door, you can't enter a tank at all. Sorry buddy, your shortsighted and ill conceived arguments need revising I touch the shell of the tank and disappear into a thousand pieces then enter through a vent Intelligence is OP
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 185	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:11:00 - [64] - Quote Infamous Erich wrote: Most of the time i get into a tank fight and the other tanker see's my name they start backing up into walls and then they overheat lol I think im actually starting to get that reaction hell im seeing less tanks recently maybe they avoiding me
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2005	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:13:00 - [65] - Quote Just be happy you got him to nick off, although why you needed to go hunting for him is beyond me, if you wait till he turns up the middle of the battle, he nicks of much quicker. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 185	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:24:00 - [66] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Hunted down a tank with my scout AV fit. ( proto ) Jumping/strafing like a MF throwing AV nades/firing swarms/putting remotes on his as He is going down.... AND OUT JUMPS A PROTO HEAVY Now I stand with my 200 hp suit with a SMG... SO okey bring it on MF... Start to strafe and jump like a MF again Heavy going down/ jumps back into His now fully regen tank hits booster and runs away look at him driving of into the sunset then BAM I am dead ... railed from 300 something meters... WTF WTF WTF thats how it works. its called tactics. you should use them. that guy rightfully owned you. you just rushed him you used no tactics. you deserved that death and more. Then how come tankers didn't use "tactics" before 1.7? They just whined about AV until it got nurfed like those type of players always do. That's not tactics?! That's CCP' s uncanny ability to create inbalance. The amount of things they have brought into this game to help the guys who don't have true tactics is unreal. They need to stop creating things without weaknesses. Vehicle operators should be in vehicle operator suits. Not any other suit. So if he jumps out he's a dead man. That's fair since if he's in the tank he's f**** invincible. Scrambler rifles have great dmg, but are semi auto with heat build up. Heavies have a lot of hp, but there slow. Scouts are fast with little hp. Balance. Tankers are fast, with massive hp, range, lots of dmg, can detect proxies, swarms and other AV weapons were nerfed, and if there tank is destroyed they can just jump out in a heavy?!? Unbalance. I bet CCP can't say balance with a straight face. Tankers did before 1.7. Back before 1.7 there was a highly skilled and knowledgible player base of HAV pilots who could do ridiculous things in the face of poor game mechanics and horribly powerful AV. Now, post 1.7 vehicle apocalypse Tankers require no skill at all, anyone can do it, .0SP and 70k isk is all you need. However even post 1.7 you still have a higher class of tanker would can wipe the floor with the newer, less experienced crowd. Just ignore anyone who thinks 1.7 tanking is difficult or requiring skill. Its ** easy compared to how it used to be. honestly these isn't really anything in this gmae that actually takes skill so I ignore pretty much everyone who goes on about skill in this game i'm skillful in a tank doesn't mean it takes skill to use it now does it it's all your point of view same as all these comments


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