Heavy handed aim assist is necessary for a decent experience on controller with this kind of strafe speed.

If you don't want people killing you with aim assist, fit dampeners. It effectively turns off anyones aim assist who doesn't have you marked.

That gives strafe monkeys options.

If you consider aim assist part of your suits built in tracking program, it almost makes sense from a lore standpoint too.

There is no lore you can attempt to explain where someone would invent a suit that physically moves your arms and aiming muscles to stay on what the onboard computer deems as a priority target...

Those are the mercenaries in Lore that would be working at Mcdonalds... Forgetting to put the straw and napkin in the bag after 6 months working there and building the same order... Or players that would have more enjoyment playing Animal Crossings then having to play "protostompers" and M/KB so I shouldn't have to worry about competitive aiming in a video game.. And any aiming problems I had was everything's fault before my own.. Even the DS3.

The ONLY FPS skill I have to use in DUST without Aiming being a factor in a First Person Shooter is my situational awareness, and knowing the map... Anything else for player ability improvements in DUST is based on purely skill points, and gear. If the goal was to make DUST a disposable shooter where aiming had very little bearing on the game, why spend all the beta time and beginnings of Uprising attracting players to that gamestyle where aiming ability matters, and enjoying it immensely a majority of people talking about how DUST gameplay was massively addictive.

Now DUST gets boring in an hour, killing someone isn't rewarding.. the moment to moment enjoyment and memories DUST created so effortlessly and made people log on until they had to goto sleep is gone. Anyone Can see the server Density numbers DUST had in August.. meaning ALOT of people where on all the time, there was no massive player peak times where server population near doubles like it does now.. As soon as Aim Assist launched in September the Server density never recovered, we couldn't keep a consistent playerbase actually playing DUST anymore..nearly 4 patches later and still we havent recovered and continue to alienate the FPS community when they come to try DUST, and then never come back, AA didn't help at all with this issue.

Without aim assist many people would quit playing and there would be no one to play against therefore no more Dust....

Its fine that you choose to play what your friends/herd plays.
You cant have played many PC shooters if you really stay by your statement which said that aim assist on consoles is to make them feel like their PC shooter counterparts. Aim assist doesnt happen on PC at all in shooters, so how could aim assist with a controller feel at all like playing with a mouse and keyboard on PC?

Do you even realize what you said? MAG felt more like a proper PC game actually, and I did not play that with aim assist.

Dont lie.... We had Unlimited Joystck acceleration... That's what made aiming terrible....

And there was no Aim friction... Your crosshairs would repel off target and continue to be slippery, was all over the forums....... instead of having friction that would make it easier for fine control inputs to keep on target.... It was like trying to Aim with a Big wet fish...


Dexter you spend more time telling bold face lies about AA, makes me wonder...

so that terribads can hit scouts and kill them by 360'ing with a rail rifleGǪ.why else?

This isn't a rhetorical question or one that I was just going to answer myself to make a proposition, but seriously why do we have a mechanic that allows rapid fire spray and pray weapons to be deadly accurate? Wouldn't it make more sense to disallow this function and create a natural balance between weapons based on the aiming skill of the player?

Because of:
a) Mass Driver, and
b) Dust University.

You'd think that I am trolling but it's actually the truth.

Lol would be hilarious the first week if they removed it...

Would be a bunch of Stevie Wonder's with a gun wondering around trying to aim...


Seriously though Why not have a No Aim Assist Weekend Event and actually see what DUST is like without Bullet Magnetism and Aim Magnetism.


Almost EVERYONE who knows or gets explained to what Aim Magnetism and Bullet Magnetism is, Hates the idea the notion and its existence almost INSTANTLY..

Almost EVERYONE including some of the strongest Anti-Aim Assist proponents Agree and praise an Aim Assist focusing around Friction and Mild LDS centering.. or "Snaping" .

Aim Friction So If you get your crosshair's roughly over an enemy area, the joystick input gets finer and easier to do the fine aim corrections from say the targets Shoulder, to a head... Allowing DS3 users to have a decent sensitivty option without loosing their fine aiming ability...

But Having Aim Magnetism or "Sticky" Aim ... where its actively moving your aim without any input is rewarding players for what?

Or Having Bullet Magnetism that will register bullets on target that are slightly off.. So the whole concept of missing a shot over someones shoulder while trying to aim for a head is gone.. Rewarding players for what? I Think players would rather EVERYONE be in the same boat with "Blue Shielding" then what we have.

Such a simple question generated so much buzz, I'm gonna attempt to summarize and address everyone's posts. Just gonna lump together the responses that appeared in the highest majority, not in any particular order.

1. Aim assist is here to compensate for mouse and keyboard support - While I can see how it would be intuitively better to aim with a mouse, at some point it's simply what you're used to.
The only thing that's limiting a person from being as proficient and capable with a controller in this game as with a mouse is the sensitivity, it's not possible to turn as quickly with a controller as with a mouse in this game which is a separate problem that should be fixed, and it's not as easy to make very fine adjustments in THIS game as it is with a mouse, which is a separate problem that should be fixed.

Side note: someone I was playing with suggested that if we got rid of mouse and keyboard support we could get rid of aim assist, it's a bit troll-y and crude but it would work, food for thought.

2. Aiming with a controller is hard for me/other players - Simple fix, play games without aim assist, get practice, over time it will improve. That's the nice way of saying "deal with it" but there is a side issue to this that people mentioned and that's "Leveling the playing field between controller vets and not-so-vets".
This is a fair argument in this game but once again this is a separate problem that needs to be fixed, and that's matchmaking, ideally matchmaking would provide just the right amount of challenge for players to learn and improve, we all know matchmaking in this is pretty much the polar opposite right now. Aim assist isn't limited to new players or players that just have a harder time aiming, it makes veteran players even more powerful because they already know how to put the crosshairs where they want it, it just allows them to rapid fire their weapons and put all of their bullets on that point, the not-so-vets now have a slightly easier time attaching the crosshairs to their target, there's still a disproportion between aiming capability except with the bullet magnetism comes harmful side effects.

3. CCP was planning to introduce it from the beginning - Fair argument for why it was introduced later but if it ain't broke don't fix it, this is of course referring to the ability to aim and the mechanics, not hit detection, which is a separate issue that should be fixed if it hasn't been already

4. Every other console shooter has it - Still not an answer for why, "it's tradition" isn't a good excuse when no-one remembers why the tradition started, at that point it's a habit. Someone said battlefield has it because without it the recoil is unbearable, and that this game doesn't have recoil, great example for why I don't understand why this game has it.
Maybe the reason I don't understand it is because I can use controller perfectly fine while others struggle with it, I do remember a time when I had to even get used to these controls, they were awkward compared to other shooters, that eventually changed for me so why not everyone else? Really why not? I understand the game is hard enough because even if you are a good shot if you have no gear or skill points you have a very high disadvantage, but this is a separate problem that should be fixed.

5. Shut up, stop crying - People who said this, you're the worst kind of forum surfer, I asked a question to better understand the situation and determine if there was a problem, if you don't have any useful input then get off the forums and play the game that you claim there's nothing wrong with.

Feel free to let me know why I'm an idiot for saying any of this as long as it helps me get an answer to my question.

Because no one can aim?

What did they petition for it by using a non aim-assisted weapon as an example for why people should have it? I mean I know CCP stated that they were hoping to eventually put it in the game but if that's the cause for why it was actually implemented, just damn.

If those were such big issues the game would be unplayable without aim assist. Which it isn't.

Ive never understood why people say this.
My scout fit can dodge bullets just fine.
And no its not a tanked scout either

Because controllers are no where near as accurate
Aim assist is to make them feel as accurate as a KB/M on PC, i dont see whats so hard to understand

Feel as accurate? wtf again? Being accurate is fairly relative. Yea I really cant understand what youre saying. The difference in skill between PC players is just the same as between consoleplayers. And many of the best players on console choose to play with assist. While on PC its never about assist, its about your skill and your skill only. Which again makes me say that your argument doesnt make sense.

After reading a few of your posts in this thread, seems like you got an agenda

Calling BS on your scout dodging bullets.