http://imgur.com/ISZ0vdu

Useful sniper.

Not impressed. If someone has to use an officer weapon just to be relevant/useful, where other classes dont have to use one, obviously there's something wrong there. Anyone can farm a bunch of blues in pubs with an officer weapon from the redline uncontested.

Not impressed. If someone has to use an officer weapon just to be relevant/useful, where other classes dont have to use one, obviously there's something wrong there. Anyone can farm a bunch of blues in pubs with an officer weapon from the redline uncontested.

where is this saving your teammates with a sniper rifle happening? all i normally see is ppl sitting in the redline taking random pot shots at players running around in the open nowhere near the OBJECTIVE..

i seem to use more orbitals on redzone snipers than i do on the large cluster of enemy players.

ive never really come across a helpful sniper.

i dont see sitting on an extremely tall tower or hill within the redzone picking off the weakest suit on the map as helpful.

Not impressed. If someone has to use an officer weapon just to be relevant/useful, where other classes dont have to use one, obviously there's something wrong there. Anyone can farm a bunch of blues in pubs with an officer weapon from the redline uncontested.

So I guess that means Sniper Rifles need a buff, right?

Nope, it means the red line needs a nerf. Snipers in the red line could also explode into the giant mound of ponies, hearts and carebears that they are as soon as they pull the trigger.

because most of you aren't while still managing to be annoying. I can count all the matches that a sniper help the win on one hand. their are too many matches to count that I've seen lost by snipers.

Nobody owes you anything for your playstyle. You should also be humble and say thanks to the tankers who combat enemy armor, for the shock troops who get really down and gritty around the objective, for the logis makeing the WP and helping the team to get orbitals, and for the scouts lighting up the map so you can see where to shoot. Sniping by nature is done from as far away as possible, and the majority of snipers do it from the redline. And when there are more than two snipers on the field that's when the team starts to get into trouble. As my main man Crazy Kula loves to say "snipers don't win matches" Especially when so many do it when they give up on a match.

To be fair, i don't mind sniper support. And thanks to the snipers who covered my ass. But its the lowest on the set of priorities of choosing squad mates and how i approach a match.

Actually, you might not be able to count all the matches snipers have been usefull to the win. Do you know how many times a sniper shot hasn't killed a redberry but has caused them to divert and go a different way which has led them into the guns of other team members instead of right up behind them? How about how many times members of the other team have been busy hunting snipers rather than concentrating on the objectives changing a close loss to a close win for you? Do you know how many times a sniper, again, not killing due to having to take bodyshots, has kept reds back from the objectives as they dodge the incoming shots meaning that your team takes the objective rather than losing clones?

No, you don't. Those sorts of things aren't noticed or recorded.

Or statistically significant, I'd wager.

Or statistically significant, I'd wager.

http://imgur.com/ISZ0vdu

Useful sniper.

Snipers generally do well like when most are doing well, IE the team has locked down the objective and are just stomping the enemy. The snipers I have seen leave the red line get killed if they are actually helpful as I know if no one else will I will hunt them down.

That said, I have seen plenty of Thales or charged snipers, but never have I seen one leave the red line. On top of that, I've never seen a Thales sniper that wasn't head glitching either which I always point out and I always see ignored in every sniper thread. People QQ about "Pro" snipers, because the most damaging ones sit in red lines on maps where they can and thales snipe while exploting POV bugs since the camera will stick out above a red line hill while your head model doesn't. Even if you approach them from the side they will wear a 1000 ehp suit so that if you head shot them once from the side they will sprint down the crest of the hill and hide until they have full hp then readjust to POV bug towards where you hit them from.

Most maps place the red line cliffs above nearby cliffs that will actually render making counter sniping all the more of a nightmare.

Sniping is broken right now for everyone else, that's why so much hate is thrown at snipers. That's why people call orbitals on redline snipers. Because, the red line + head glitching removes all plausible counters beyond an orbital that the rest of us who are trying to actually play the game and not be an exploitative jerk would rather deal with.

You pro snipers that leave the red line no one is complaining about you. They are complaining about over saturation of snipers on a team or the redline glitchers.

Seems statistically significant to me.

I always leave the redline and have never used a Thales. My main sniping fit has a Charge but I've mostly been using Militia fits recently to bolster my wallet a little. I've also been trying to improve my closer in game, which is working a bit. When I'm not on a team getting stomped anyway.

You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital.

You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad.

If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill.



Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :)

Single instance carries no statistical weight, and effect of event is easily replicated by other modes and methods. Plus, if that score doesn't stop other people from playing the game, very little will.

Vid of you sniping an armor tanked head glitcher from a lower elevation or it didn't happen, otherwise you are just another thales redline head glitcher trolling the forum in hopes that CCP continues to ignore the glitch.

If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill.



Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :)

Vid of you sniping an armor tanked head glitcher from a lower elevation or it didn't happen, otherwise you are just another thales redline head glitcher trolling the forum in hopes that CCP continues to ignore the glitch.

This is why I advocate KDR matchmaking: let snipers have their game (shooting at other snipers), and keep them out our way as we try to capture objectives with people actually willing to put skin in the game doing so. Same for tankers. Let them shoot each other and stop being the drive-by shooters they are.

If you read my above posts, you'd know that when I snipe, it's not for KDR. I snipe on maps where I can help with objectives from a sniper perch. (Manus Peaks, usually.) Actually the most leaderboard-stacky I get is when I logi. I love me some war points. Find a heavy, park on it with a repper. 3k warpoints easy. Just saying. You make a lot of generalizations without knowing what you're talking about.