I seriously don't get it. I mean look at all of the helpful things we do for you:

Intel

We snipers are best at doing this. No Active Scanner nor Scout has the radius of 500+ meters, while also being able to fire back at the same time. Wondering what objective the enemy is pushing? Done. See an RDV flying around but don't know what's being called in? Easy.

You want an extra bonus? CCP's awesome rendering glitch feature allows me to see through walls sometimes! Yes, that's right, I can tell you how many enemies are camped by the entrance too!

Flanking

We can also help flank an objective with you as well. I can take down targets during your push, cutting down the amount of enemies you have to face. If your push fails and you are forced to fall-back or retreat, I can also start popping heads too; which prevents your enemy from pushing forward.

Point Defense

Provided we have a good spot, we can guarantee the locking of an objective. You have to be in one spot to hack, and strafing won't help much when we know you have to remain in one static area in-order to hack the objective.

That crowd of enemies who were just trying to flank you? I can turn it into a mere pair of people.

Demoralization

Yes, I can demoralize the enemy too.

You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a prototype Sniper Rifle on the Killfeed? The very thought that at any second, your expensive suit can be turned into DUST?

When the enemy sees a sniper rifle on the killfeed too many times, they get very nervous. They'll begin to panic and will even try to send people away from the battle to counter-snipe me. But unless they are also "gud" they won't be able too because they don't know all of the true hotspots. But I will enjoy the free kills.

---

I know that Snipers are one of the few things that still prevent BoundlessVizamImperialDuvolleKalikiotia Rifle 514 to go un-opposed, but please don't hate us for it.

Stop calling us useless because the AFKer in a starter fit decided to grab a sniper rifle. At least give thanks and credit where it's due.

-HAND

My 1911 Suppressed was FAR better in CQC than my sniper rifle. Why? Because I used a DMR instead of a Bolt-Action. Since it took two shots to the chest to drop targets, it was better to become great with my sidearm instead.

Great Recons in BF3 were far more deadly with a pistol than the average assault. We had to be.

I just want to be able to quickly acquire targets at range, scope, put the round through their skull, and move on.

Not this: Find target at range. Crouch. Scope. Wait. Fire. Leave.

That's how I want sniping at range but with no mechanic to prevent the cqc quick scoping that is bf and cod what do you do? I want bullet drop and all that too just noting that makes it as good as a pistol at short/med range.

How about the holding your breath thing from BF3, but it takes longer for it to steady the scope.

Like it takes a good 1/2 second to steady the scope, and can be done without crouching. If you try to fire before the sight "settles" you get terrible bullet deviation

Theres quite a few games that did this where you can hold your breath to steady the shot and your stamina would drain until you breathe out and it recharges. The scope sway was constant though but disappeared when you held your breath.

I believe this would be great but while standing it should reduce sway to a minimal amount but not absolutely. Seen as dust likes to retain some elements of realism, absolute sway reduction while standing is a ridiculous idea and the same for kneeling but this would make more sense and the ability to go prone would be even better.

Iv fire a scoped rifle as well, I could imagine some people may be able to kneel and fire without swaying or moving in rl but only momentarily.

If your name isn't Grease or Gem Cutter, put down the rifle and do something useful.

I seriously don't get it. I mean look at all of the helpful things we do for you:

Intel

We snipers are best at doing this. No Active Scanner nor Scout has the radius of 500+ meters, while also being able to fire back at the same time. Wondering what objective the enemy is pushing? Done. See an RDV flying around but don't know what's being called in? Easy.

You want an extra bonus? CCP's awesome rendering glitch feature allows me to see through walls sometimes! Yes, that's right, I can tell you how many enemies are camped by the entrance too!

Flanking

We can also help flank an objective with you as well. I can take down targets during your push, cutting down the amount of enemies you have to face. If your push fails and you are forced to fall-back or retreat, I can also start popping heads too; which prevents your enemy from pushing forward.

Point Defense

Provided we have a good spot, we can guarantee the locking of an objective. You have to be in one spot to hack, and strafing won't help much when we know you have to remain in one static area in-order to hack the objective.

That crowd of enemies who were just trying to flank you? I can turn it into a mere pair of people.

Demoralization

Yes, I can demoralize the enemy too.

You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a prototype Sniper Rifle on the Killfeed? The very thought that at any second, your expensive suit can be turned into DUST?

When the enemy sees a sniper rifle on the killfeed too many times, they get very nervous. They'll begin to panic and will even try to send people away from the battle to counter-snipe me. But unless they are also "gud" they won't be able too because they don't know all of the true hotspots. But I will enjoy the free kills.

---

I know that Snipers are one of the few things that still prevent BoundlessVizamImperialDuvolleKalikiotia Rifle 514 to go un-opposed, but please don't hate us for it.

Stop calling us useless because the AFKer in a starter fit decided to grab a sniper rifle. At least give thanks and credit where it's due.

-HAND

Just had to say this. People need to stop using Gem Cutter and Sleepy Zan as references to good snipers because it's completely invalid. No more "back in the day" ish. These guys played during a time when this game was in it's beta and chromosome (though you could argue it's still in beta) when all these fully HP tanked suits of Uprising didn't exist. The hit detection against scouts also was poor (Sleepy Zan's go to), there were wide-open maps u could see across and snipe people off objectives due to poor map design, and the charged sniper rifle was the advanced SR. Have them try to do what they did then today and I bet all my isk that they couldn't. 68-0 or 73-0 is unrealistic now with the new map designs covering objectives, HP buffs, active scanners, etc. They weren't the only ones to pull high killstreaks like that either with a SR. These guys are irrelevant now. They don't even play this game as things became more "balanced". Just legends of their time, nothing more.

You inspired me atiim to use the tac sniper and do a bit of close support sniping, I'm not a 'proper' dedicated sniper, I use the charged with 3 damage mods. I'll be using the ishukone tac later, should be fun.

I use the duvolle tac for cqc sniping and its a total beast.

Most snipers are plain sht mate and we don't even have bullet drop lol.

I love the sniper hate, especially coming from players that insists snipers are not GÇ£team playersGÇ¥, that they donGÇÖt contribute meaningfully to the teamGÇÖs performance. More than a few of these same players, when theyGÇÖre on my team and see me sniping, will stand in my way and shoot at meGÇöyou know who you are. HELLA TEAM SPIRIT. (BTW, they GÇ£see me snipingGÇ¥ because I always drop uplinks, like a GÇ£team playerGÇ¥.)

There are different play styles. Not every player prefers the same style, nor are we all meant to play the sameGÇöthatGÇÖs why there are different roles to fill, different maps, etc.

Here are the most common GÇ£I hate snipersGÇ¥ arguments, along with explanations of why theyGÇÖre stupid:

1.Snipers donGÇÖt contribute. Really? And when did you become a Dust general, master of the battlefield, and all-around wartime statistician? ItGÇÖs a gameGÇöanother playerGÇÖs fun has nothing to do with anyoneGÇÖs notions of GÇ£contributionGÇ¥. Also, if itGÇÖs so important, anyone can take an active leadership role and start recruiting/guiding mercs that they think are GÇ£doing it wrongGÇ¥. Then again, anyone that whines as much as most sniper haters is likely not cut out for leadership. I guess being 1/16 of a team, but account for 10%+ of the kills and 0 deaths isnGÇÖt contributingGǪ
2.There are only 5 good snipers in Dust. Well, how can anyone get better unless they play as a sniper? Additionally, if a player is great at sniping and gives a crap about teamplay/GÇ£winningGÇ¥ a match, then doesnGÇÖt it seem like that player would train into another style, to be more versatile and responsive to changing situations?
3.The player that prefers teammates to GÇ£have gone 0/11 and been consistently hacking objectives and providing logi supportGÇ¥, is probably not considering that these same teammates are getting killed to death in the midst of hacking and supporting, and likely just trying to get across the map. Ie, theyGÇÖre not very helpful. Remember: taking objectives only wins two formats of gameplay (domination and skirmish), but cloning wins them all. So, IGÇÖd argue that teaming with dudes that rain death like the hot fire is preferable to teaming with dudes that are hyper GÇ£goalGÇ¥-focused. CanGÇÖt recall all the times MCC health has been neck-and-neck, only to lose the match because the other team is up 80+ clones to our 0.
4.ItGÇÖs unfairGÇöcanGÇÖt shoot back at a sniper. You most certainly canGÇöget in a scout suit and hunt the sniper down, or find a higher perch and countersnipe, or get in a DS and crush him. Alternatively, equip a heavy suit, spawn near where the sniper got you, and dance around, tanking the occasional bullet while homing in on the sniperGÇÖs perch (follow the arrow/ring thingy that flashes when you take damage), swap fittings, and head that-a-way. There are numerous ways to get back at a sniper and each one improves a different style of play. So, arguments of unfairness really just amount to whining about the need to improve. Find better cover. Learn the map better. Play with your fittings. And STFU.
5.Redline snipers are wussies. Maybe so, but my mom says IGÇÖm brave. In any case, a DS has considerable reach behind the enemyGÇÖs redline. Use this to your advantage. Also, both teams have a redline, so this point is moot.

Now that IGÇÖm done ranting, I want to discuss a tactic that runs contrary to current doctrine, but that IGÇÖve found can be quite useful:

Conventional wisdom says to drop uplinks and nanohives away from your perch. The rational behind this tactic is entirely sound, the issue is that, in practice, there are only a handful of truly GÇ£invisibleGÇ¥ sniping spots (at least that IGÇÖve found). TheyGÇÖre not on every map and they are rarer than unicorn farts. NEVER DROP A NANOHIVE OR UPLINK IN YOUR OWN PRIVATE IDAHO. However, considering that there are a plethora of GÇ£very goodGÇ¥ spots, and many of them are either somewhat open to certain angles or on top of towers, dropped uplinks and nanohives can provide visual GÇ£noiseGÇ¥ that makes it harder for countersnipers to do their jobs. If youGÇÖre sitting on a nest of hives/links, your little red chevron is going to be MUCH harder for your opponent to pick out.

The not so great snipers leave the match 2/0.

most serious snipers use logi suits. They stack 5 damage mods in it's high slots an can OHK ANY suit,regardless of HP.

I seriously don't get it. I mean look at all of the helpful things we do for you:

Intel

We snipers are best at doing this. No Active Scanner nor Scout has the radius of 500+ meters, while also being able to fire back at the same time. Wondering what objective the enemy is pushing? Done. See an RDV flying around but don't know what's being called in? Easy.

You want an extra bonus? CCP's awesome rendering glitch feature allows me to see through walls sometimes! Yes, that's right, I can tell you how many enemies are camped by the entrance too!

Flanking

We can also help flank an objective with you as well. I can take down targets during your push, cutting down the amount of enemies you have to face. If your push fails and you are forced to fall-back or retreat, I can also start popping heads too; which prevents your enemy from pushing forward.

Point Defense

Provided we have a good spot, we can guarantee the locking of an objective. You have to be in one spot to hack, and strafing won't help much when we know you have to remain in one static area in-order to hack the objective.

That crowd of enemies who were just trying to flank you? I can turn it into a mere pair of people.

Demoralization

Yes, I can demoralize the enemy too.

You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a prototype Sniper Rifle on the Killfeed? The very thought that at any second, your expensive suit can be turned into DUST?

When the enemy sees a sniper rifle on the killfeed too many times, they get very nervous. They'll begin to panic and will even try to send people away from the battle to counter-snipe me. But unless they are also "gud" they won't be able too because they don't know all of the true hotspots. But I will enjoy the free kills.

---

I know that Snipers are one of the few things that still prevent BoundlessVizamImperialDuvolleKalikiotia Rifle 514 to go un-opposed, but please don't hate us for it.

Stop calling us useless because the AFKer in a starter fit decided to grab a sniper rifle. At least give thanks and credit where it's due.

-HAND

http://imgur.com/ISZ0vdu

Useful sniper.

I seriously don't get it. I mean look at all of the helpful things we do for you:

Intel

We snipers are best at doing this. No Active Scanner nor Scout has the radius of 500+ meters, while also being able to fire back at the same time. Wondering what objective the enemy is pushing? Done. See an RDV flying around but don't know what's being called in? Easy.

You want an extra bonus? CCP's awesome rendering glitch feature allows me to see through walls sometimes! Yes, that's right, I can tell you how many enemies are camped by the entrance too!

Flanking

We can also help flank an objective with you as well. I can take down targets during your push, cutting down the amount of enemies you have to face. If your push fails and you are forced to fall-back or retreat, I can also start popping heads too; which prevents your enemy from pushing forward.

Point Defense

Provided we have a good spot, we can guarantee the locking of an objective. You have to be in one spot to hack, and strafing won't help much when we know you have to remain in one static area in-order to hack the objective.

That crowd of enemies who were just trying to flank you? I can turn it into a mere pair of people.

Demoralization

Yes, I can demoralize the enemy too.

You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a prototype Sniper Rifle on the Killfeed? The very thought that at any second, your expensive suit can be turned into DUST?

When the enemy sees a sniper rifle on the killfeed too many times, they get very nervous. They'll begin to panic and will even try to send people away from the battle to counter-snipe me. But unless they are also "gud" they won't be able too because they don't know all of the true hotspots. But I will enjoy the free kills.

---

I know that Snipers are one of the few things that still prevent BoundlessVizamImperialDuvolleKalikiotia Rifle 514 to go un-opposed, but please don't hate us for it.

Stop calling us useless because the AFKer in a starter fit decided to grab a sniper rifle. At least give thanks and credit where it's due.

-HAND

57 kills.

but only 5 headshots......

Still dang impressive, but com'on......