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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:06:00 -
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Snipers generally do well like when most are doing well, IE the team has locked down the objective and are just stomping the enemy. The snipers I have seen leave the red line get killed if they are actually helpful as I know if no one else will I will hunt them down.
That said, I have seen plenty of Thales or charged snipers, but never have I seen one leave the red line. On top of that, I've never seen a Thales sniper that wasn't head glitching either which I always point out and I always see ignored in every sniper thread. People QQ about "Pro" snipers, because the most damaging ones sit in red lines on maps where they can and thales snipe while exploting POV bugs since the camera will stick out above a red line hill while your head model doesn't. Even if you approach them from the side they will wear a 1000 ehp suit so that if you head shot them once from the side they will sprint down the crest of the hill and hide until they have full hp then readjust to POV bug towards where you hit them from.
Most maps place the red line cliffs above nearby cliffs that will actually render making counter sniping all the more of a nightmare.
Sniping is broken right now for everyone else, that's why so much hate is thrown at snipers. That's why people call orbitals on redline snipers. Because, the red line + head glitching removes all plausible counters beyond an orbital that the rest of us who are trying to actually play the game and not be an exploitative jerk would rather deal with like an orbital on the main enemy counter attacks.
You pro snipers that leave the red line no one is complaining about you. They are complaining about over saturation of snipers on a team or the redline glitchers. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:16:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Snipers generally do well like when most are doing well, IE the team has locked down the objective and are just stomping the enemy. The snipers I have seen leave the red line get killed if they are actually helpful as I know if no one else will I will hunt them down.
That said, I have seen plenty of Thales or charged snipers, but never have I seen one leave the red line. On top of that, I've never seen a Thales sniper that wasn't head glitching either which I always point out and I always see ignored in every sniper thread. People QQ about "Pro" snipers, because the most damaging ones sit in red lines on maps where they can and thales snipe while exploting POV bugs since the camera will stick out above a red line hill while your head model doesn't. Even if you approach them from the side they will wear a 1000 ehp suit so that if you head shot them once from the side they will sprint down the crest of the hill and hide until they have full hp then readjust to POV bug towards where you hit them from.
Most maps place the red line cliffs above nearby cliffs that will actually render making counter sniping all the more of a nightmare.
Sniping is broken right now for everyone else, that's why so much hate is thrown at snipers. That's why people call orbitals on redline snipers. Because, the red line + head glitching removes all plausible counters beyond an orbital that the rest of us who are trying to actually play the game and not be an exploitative jerk would rather deal with.
You pro snipers that leave the red line no one is complaining about you. They are complaining about over saturation of snipers on a team or the redline glitchers. I always leave the redline and have never used a Thales. My main sniping fit has a Charge but I've mostly been using Militia fits recently to bolster my wallet a little. I've also been trying to improve my closer in game, which is working a bit. When I'm not on a team getting stomped anyway.
And when you are one of the few snipers on your team you are not who the community is complaining about. The community is raging at the other jerks and you are just identifying with them, I like good snipers, but broken snipers can take a long walk off a short pier.
If you are not red line sniping then no one is going to complain about you. Don't take up arguments that have nothing to do with the rage. You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital. So most ignore them and they pad their KDR making any snipers seem superficial. You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:26:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital. If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill. TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad. Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :)
Vid of you sniping an armor tanked head glitcher from a lower elevation or it didn't happen, otherwise you are just another thales redline head glitcher trolling the forum in hopes that CCP continues to ignore the glitch.
At least those Rail tanks I can chase off the cliff from a lower elevation with my forge gun. You can't do that with a head glitcher as the body isn't visible unless you are above them which is impossible if they use the right cliff in their redline (Which the primary abusers do). |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:37:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital. If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill. TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad. Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :) Vid of you sniping an armor tanked head glitcher from a lower elevation or it didn't happen, otherwise you are just another thales redline head glitcher trolling the forum in hopes that CCP continues to ignore the glitch. people head glitch with AR's its just how that game works, you wanna shoot a head glitcher in the redline your just gonna have to fine a higher spot than he and hit him from there I know Ive done it alot, but alas i dont make vids so "it didnt happen" :D
1. AR's don't have enough range to keep you from rushing them (You know because they can't sit in the f@#$ing red line with infinite optimal range, or at least as far as their game will render.)
2. I will stand by vids or it didn't happen, why? Because, more than likely the one you were shooting from a higher elevation was not in a good sniping point. Just because you guys can kill the noob snipers that also sit in the redline doesn't mean it's fine. I can kill noob tankers all day long with my forge gun, doesn't make tanks fine. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:39:00 -
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iTbagyou wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Snipers generally do well like when most are doing well, IE the team has locked down the objective and are just stomping the enemy. The snipers I have seen leave the red line get killed if they are actually helpful as I know if no one else will I will hunt them down.
That said, I have seen plenty of Thales or charged snipers, but never have I seen one leave the red line. On top of that, I've never seen a Thales sniper that wasn't head glitching either which I always point out and I always see ignored in every sniper thread. People QQ about "Pro" snipers, because the most damaging ones sit in red lines on maps where they can and thales snipe while exploting POV bugs since the camera will stick out above a red line hill while your head model doesn't. Even if you approach them from the side they will wear a 1000 ehp suit so that if you head shot them once from the side they will sprint down the crest of the hill and hide until they have full hp then readjust to POV bug towards where you hit them from.
Most maps place the red line cliffs above nearby cliffs that will actually render making counter sniping all the more of a nightmare.
Sniping is broken right now for everyone else, that's why so much hate is thrown at snipers. That's why people call orbitals on redline snipers. Because, the red line + head glitching removes all plausible counters beyond an orbital that the rest of us who are trying to actually play the game and not be an exploitative jerk would rather deal with like an orbital on the main enemy counter attacks.
You pro snipers that leave the red line no one is complaining about you. They are complaining about over saturation of snipers on a team or the redline glitchers. On occassions I run a thales, but I have no problem moving around the map with it. I'm not scared to lose it. I also dont sit in the redline with it. I do use elevated positions that require a DS to reach.
And like I said to the other guy, the community ISN'T raging about you. They rage at the 10 blueberry snipers that won't push on the objective and the red liners. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:44:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital. If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill. TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad. Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :) Vid of you sniping an armor tanked head glitcher from a lower elevation or it didn't happen, otherwise you are just another thales redline head glitcher trolling the forum in hopes that CCP continues to ignore the glitch. At least those Rail tanks I can chase off the cliff from a lower elevation with my forge gun. You can't do that with a head glitcher as the body isn't visible unless you are above them which is impossible if they use the right cliff in their redline (Which the primary abusers do). Most redline snipers are very easy targets. They seem to like to sit right on the crest of hills, silhouetting themselves against the sky. As to the head glitching ones. You're not going to be able to shoot anyone from a lower elevation when they're headglitching, regardless of what weapon they're using. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Headglitchers usually aren't at the highest possible elevation though, so it takes a little time and effort, but you can usually get to a position where you have a shot. And bad snipers don't make good snipers look bad, they make themselves look bad and good ones look amazing in comparison. I class myself more towards average than good or bad when I'm sniping. Right now I'm running mostly assault and only really switching when I see there's a sniper redberry on the field. When that happens I usually decide to take up the hunt for them.
By look bad I mean that this thread is started about how snipers are useful! Which is a reaction to the negative attitude the community has towards them, which is in reaction to the bull tactics that you guys claim not to use and like I've said no one is complaining about the snipers that don't employ said tactics.
And again, you admit that it does happen "Headglitchers USUALLY aren't at the highest possible elevation", the community is pissed off at the "NOT USUALLY" ones.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:56:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:iTbagyou wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Snipers generally do well like when most are doing well, IE the team has locked down the objective and are just stomping the enemy. The snipers I have seen leave the red line get killed if they are actually helpful as I know if no one else will I will hunt them down.
That said, I have seen plenty of Thales or charged snipers, but never have I seen one leave the red line. On top of that, I've never seen a Thales sniper that wasn't head glitching either which I always point out and I always see ignored in every sniper thread. People QQ about "Pro" snipers, because the most damaging ones sit in red lines on maps where they can and thales snipe while exploting POV bugs since the camera will stick out above a red line hill while your head model doesn't. Even if you approach them from the side they will wear a 1000 ehp suit so that if you head shot them once from the side they will sprint down the crest of the hill and hide until they have full hp then readjust to POV bug towards where you hit them from.
Most maps place the red line cliffs above nearby cliffs that will actually render making counter sniping all the more of a nightmare.
Sniping is broken right now for everyone else, that's why so much hate is thrown at snipers. That's why people call orbitals on redline snipers. Because, the red line + head glitching removes all plausible counters beyond an orbital that the rest of us who are trying to actually play the game and not be an exploitative jerk would rather deal with like an orbital on the main enemy counter attacks.
You pro snipers that leave the red line no one is complaining about you. They are complaining about over saturation of snipers on a team or the redline glitchers. On occassions I run a thales, but I have no problem moving around the map with it. I'm not scared to lose it. I also dont sit in the redline with it. I do use elevated positions that require a DS to reach. And like I said to the other guy, the community ISN'T raging about you. They rage at the 10 blueberry snipers that won't push on the objective and the red liners. ok vid of redline sniper making a difference in the battle ?
They kill players which cost them their suits/kdr and cannot be encroached upon when red line head glitching from a higher elevation.
You want me to prove that snipers are useful? You do realize that I don't even think snipers are necessary. Just another form of play like vehicles. I am simply trying to explain one half of the reason why players get pissy with snipers. The other half would be like the 10 snipers on one side issue, they aren't necessary.
So no I'm not going to post a vid of a sniper making a difference, because I'm not even arguing that you are useful mister strawman. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:43:00 -
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As someone who also goes out hunting for redline snipers with a sniper rifle I can assure you, you aren't looking hard enough. I'm not exaggerating when I say of the 80+ games where I saw a thales in the kill feed since I have been playing this game, not one of them wasn't redline sniping, many of which were either doing so on a map where you couldn't get to a higher elevation or they wore a fatty suit with over 1k ehp so that when I headshot them once they jump down the hill (Facing out of the match not into it) then they just wait and regen, then readjust their position. But, I play in US East so I can't say what the meta is like elsewhere.
Believe it or not, for those of us that aren't sniping all the time, it gets expensive to fund our suits when we are at the objectives getting into the thick of it. I wouldn't expect a sniper to understand that. I never said redline snipers were game winners, no snipers are in my opinion, at least not that i have seen, they simply don't have the dps and can be avoided. The team determines the outcome. Just the only people I know including myself that complain about snipers is the head glitching redliners. All these sniper QQ threads have been never ending straw arguments that have nothing to do with why people hate on snipers a lot.
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