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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:04:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:hgghyujh wrote:because most of you aren't while still managing to be annoying. I can count all the matches that a sniper help the win on one hand. their are too many matches to count that I've seen lost by snipers. Actually, you might not be able to count all the matches snipers have been usefull to the win. Do you know how many times a sniper shot hasn't killed a redberry but has caused them to divert and go a different way which has led them into the guns of other team members instead of right up behind them? How about how many times members of the other team have been busy hunting snipers rather than concentrating on the objectives changing a close loss to a close win for you? Do you know how many times a sniper, again, not killing due to having to take bodyshots, has kept reds back from the objectives as they dodge the incoming shots meaning that your team takes the objective rather than losing clones? No, you don't. Those sorts of things aren't noticed or recorded.
Or statistically significant, I'd wager.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Or statistically significant, I'd wager. Seems statistically significant to me.
Single instance carries no statistical weight, and effect of event is easily replicated by other modes and methods. Plus, if that score doesn't stop other people from playing the game, very little will.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:29:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys are just getting caught in the crossfire rage because it is infuriating to have no option to deal with another player short of trying to suicide drop ship into them/waste an orbital. If a sniper can kill you, you can kill them. Doesn't matter where on the map they are. Redline tanks: Much harder to kill. TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You guys that actually move about should be just as pissed off at these guys as the rest of us as they make you look bad. Why would I be ticked off at easy targets? I love redline snipers. :)
This is why I advocate KDR matchmaking: let snipers have their game (shooting at other snipers), and keep them out our way as we try to capture objectives with people actually willing to put skin in the game doing so. Same for tankers. Let them shoot each other and stop being the drive-by shooters they are.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:This is why I advocate KDR matchmaking: let snipers have their game (shooting at other snipers), and keep them out our way as we try to capture objectives with people actually willing to put skin in the game doing so. Same for tankers. Let them shoot each other and stop being the drive-by shooters they are. If you read my above posts, you'd know that when I snipe, it's not for KDR. I snipe on maps where I can help with objectives from a sniper perch. (Manus Peaks, usually.) Actually the most leaderboard-stacky I get is when I logi. I love me some war points. Find a heavy, park on it with a repper. 3k warpoints easy. Just saying. You make a lot of generalizations without knowing what you're talking about.
A lot? What a generalization.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:41:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:This is why I advocate KDR matchmaking: let snipers have their game (shooting at other snipers), and keep them out our way as we try to capture objectives with people actually willing to put skin in the game doing so. Same for tankers. Let them shoot each other and stop being the drive-by shooters they are. If you read my above posts, you'd know that when I snipe, it's not for KDR. I snipe on maps where I can help with objectives from a sniper perch. (Manus Peaks, usually.) Actually the most leaderboard-stacky I get is when I logi. I love me some war points. Find a heavy, park on it with a repper. 3k warpoints easy. Just saying. You make a lot of generalizations without knowing what you're talking about.
Besides, if it doesn't affect your KDR, you'll have precious little to worry about.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:59:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:There is nothing wrong with a Sniper, they are usefful for the reasons you specifed and more besides it.
The problem is with the Redline Sniper at the edge of the map terrain glitching in a heavy suit, that's the problem. The problem is none of the above: It's map design. But snipers and redlines are the "most visible symptom", and few are willing to think it through.
Without symptoms, there is no disease.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:15:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:There is nothing wrong with a Sniper, they are usefful for the reasons you specifed and more besides it.
The problem is with the Redline Sniper at the edge of the map terrain glitching in a heavy suit, that's the problem. The problem is none of the above: It's map design. But snipers and redlines are the "most visible symptom", and few are willing to think it through. Without symptoms, there is no disease. Actually, no. I do agree that map design isn't the problem though.
The symptom in the case you presented is still present, it just resides in the next person who catches it. If no one ever has an adverse affect from the vector, it isn't a disease.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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