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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4366	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:11:00 - [1] - Quote I seriously don't get it. I mean look at all of the helpful things we do for you: Intel We snipers are best at doing this. No Active Scanner nor Scout has the radius of 500+ meters, while also being able to fire back at the same time. Wondering what objective the enemy is pushing? Done. See an RDV flying around but don't know what's being called in? Easy. You want an extra bonus? CCP's awesome rendering ~~glitch~~ feature allows me to see through walls sometimes! Yes, that's right, I can tell you how many enemies are camped by the entrance too! Flanking We can also help flank an objective with you as well. I can take down targets during your push, cutting down the amount of enemies you have to face. If your push fails and you are forced to fall-back or retreat, I can also start popping heads too; which prevents your enemy from pushing forward. Point Defense Provided we have a good spot, we can guarantee the locking of an objective. You have to be in one spot to hack, and strafing won't help much when we know you have to remain in one static area in-order to hack the objective. That crowd of enemies who were just trying to flank you? I can turn it into a mere pair of people. Demoralization Yes, I can demoralize the enemy too. You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a prototype Sniper Rifle on the Killfeed? The very thought that at any second, your expensive suit can be turned into DUST? When the enemy sees a sniper rifle on the killfeed too many times, they get very nervous. They'll begin to panic and will even try to send people away from the battle to counter-snipe me. But unless they are also "gud" they won't be able too because they don't know all of the true hotspots. But I will enjoy the free kills. I know that Snipers are one of the few things that still prevent BoundlessVizamImperialDuvolleKalikiotia Rifle 514 to go un-opposed, but please don't hate us for it. Stop calling us useless because the AFKer in a starter fit decided to grab a sniper rifle. At least give thanks and credit where it's due. -HAND Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Shiyou Hidiyoshi 96	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:13:00 - [2] - Quote Sees that the post is long lolololololol Yeah **** reading that leaves Will awoky woky Rampage in PC for Chucky Cheese tokens. C C P corp is full of scrubs, CCPapplication to FWA REJECTED! :P
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 608	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:14:00 - [3] - Quote I don't hate snipers. Snipers are useful. Those with a sniper rifle in the redline where no one can get them? I hate them. Kill these people, and I shall defend your role as a sniper til biomass do we part. Best PVE idea I've seen.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3880	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:16:00 - [4] - Quote I don't like Snipers on my team. Not even a little bit. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Ripley Riley 447	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:16:00 - [5] - Quote I know how useful a sniper can be. I have a problem with joining an public contract and there being 5+ snipers posted up on a hill. A team doesn't need that many snipers. 2 is probably the perfect number. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1054	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:17:00 - [6] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Sees that the post is long lolololololol Yeah **** reading that leaves Are you REALLLLLY Thisssssss?!?!?!?!? Hiding behind a fancy name are we?
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 524	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:18:00 - [7] - Quote Nine out of ten times the sniper on the hill is mlt who died 8 times already. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4595	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:19:00 - [8] - Quote You're a sniper? Please, by all means, continue to be completely and utterly useless, not helping your team even a little bit. > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Shiyou Hidiyoshi 97	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:19:00 - [9] - Quote I respect snipers It takes a lot to sit on your ass while developing hemorrhoids every game. Snipers are like peeping toms, they wait patiently for what they want and when they see it, they do what got to do. Sir I salute you Will awoky woky Rampage in PC for Chucky Cheese tokens. C C P corp is full of scrubs, CCPapplication to FWA REJECTED! :P
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3026	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:22:00 - [10] - Quote On the majority maps that are played? Snipers really don't fit too many places without being all in the open. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]

Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 268	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:23:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly Im kinda sick of this too. Snipers get straight teamkilled in faction war. With playing with a few recruits that Ive brought in, one that legitimately likes to snipe, gets shot in the back by some prick inside the combat zone we both tend to fume and do everything in our power to get ourselves teamkilled by this person. Generally we get them banned but its kinda a problem... Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
CRYPT3C W0LF MK.V 317	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:24:00 - [12] - Quote Guy crouching behind hill a, dropsuit not rendering, while he's sitting in his redline with a Thales Respect Ahhhh.... CPM? Nononono
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:25:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't like Snipers on my team. Not even a little bit. GÇªAlso thinks black people are not good at hockey. Amiright? Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 130	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:26:00 - [14] - Quote I hate the sniper rifle in this game because I feel it's broken. Snipers in battlefield are a billion tines better and I don't like the way Snipers have to be used in this game. It's nice no sway when crouched after hitting l3 but I feel that takes to long. I like being mobile, rendering is awful so long range shots are put of the question for me not to mention the zoom is so low I can't even see what I'm looking at. crosshairs are usually bigger than my target and even if they're red I still miss because apparently even though I'm aiming at the guys head it doesn't count. I hate most other Snipers in this game because they're cowards and sit in the redline. If I'm feeling lucky and take out a sniper rifle I actually go into the playable area. If someone figures out where I am or finds me they deserve the kill because I've failed. aiming also feels to slow for moving targets and to fast for precision against still targets (having to move the reticule back and forth and hoping it stops in the middle.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:26:00 - [15] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: You're a sniper? Please, by all means, continue to be completely and utterly useless, not helping your team even a little bit. GÇªsays jews should also do the same. Amiright? Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6495	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:27:00 - [16] - Quote You guys are never useful merely annoying unless you can camp one objective and entire match and ensure no enemy captures that singular point. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:30:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You guys are never useful merely annoying unless you can camp one objective and entire match and ensure no enemy captures that singular point. Yes, but we're not talkng about Viet Cong. We're talking about Chinese. Good red blooded Chinese. What do you think of those? Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3026	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:30:00 - [18] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Honestly Im kinda sick of this too. Snipers get straight teamkilled in faction war. With playing with a few recruits that Ive brought in, one that legitimately likes to snipe, gets shot in the back by some prick inside the combat zone we both tend to fume and do everything in our power to get ourselves teamkilled by this person. Generally we get them banned but its kinda a problem... I'm not excusing them but its quite evident that there is a disdain for snipers. Always has been and in Dust 514, it flourishes. Mercs are going toe to toe with enemy mercs. Brutal battles. And here you have a sniper in the hills with a random shot here or there. The not so great snipers leave the match 2/0. Meanwhile mercs feel that if a sniper gets off his belltower and help, they would be in a better place. It's understandable. I think the role inserted into Dust is complimentary. But the way maps are, and the direction Dust is going, the role is not viable to be solely skilled into. It is situational nowadays. Of many games I've played with snipers, I've only met 4 good ones. The rest needs to get off their butts and fight in the mud pit with the rest of us. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2575	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:36:00 - [19] - Quote Here is the problem with snipers, and it's the same problem from BF3. GREAT snipers are so useful it's not even funny. They can hold an objective from 400m away, eliminate HVT's and injure or flat out STOP squads from moving in the open. They create paranoia and discord on the battlefield, as you can effectively shut down areas of the map for fear of getting pinged in the open. However, a vast majority of snipers in this game a CRAP. They give all the rest a bad name. That is the problem with snipers in Dust. That and the stupid initial scope sway. I want BF3 sniping in Dust. I would go scout sniper and NEVER go back. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1300	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:39:00 - [20] - Quote but you aren't useful time and time again I see the same **** "we're losing? time to pull out the trusty sniper" no, the sniper rifle is a defensive weapon you don't use it when you're on the offensive. when you are down to one point you are always on the offensive. "I went 11/0, saving the team clones and picking off enemy units" that's cool but I'd rather you have gone 0/11 and been consistently hacking objectives and providing logi support... "I provide terror" no, you provide temporary frustration. they now use cover better on one side and that's about it. "I provide recon up to 500m" units 500m away don't constitute a threat "I can sometimes see through walls" neat trick I can see through walls for 40m all day long. "I can lock down an objective" so can I? "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3881	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:45:00 - [21] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't like Snipers on my team. Not even a little bit. GÇªAlso thinks black people are not good at hockey. Amiright? I don't watch hockey. I don't watch any sports. If I'm not playing then it is boring for me. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3881	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:48:00 - [22] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: True Adamance wrote: You guys are never useful merely annoying unless you can camp one objective and entire match and ensure no enemy captures that singular point. Yes, but we're not talkng about Viet Cong. We're talking about Chinese. Good red blooded Chinese. What do you think of those? The Viet Cong gave it good to the Chinese during the Sino War. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1316	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:49:00 - [23] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I don't like Snipers on my team. Not even a little bit. GÇªAlso thinks black people are not good at hockey. Amiright? The f*ck did I just read? "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2577	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:50:00 - [24] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: "I provide terror" no, you provide temporary frustration. they now use cover better on one side and that's about it. "I provide recon up to 500m" units 500m away don't constitute a threat "I can sometimes see through walls" neat trick I can see through walls for 40m all day long. "I can lock down an objective" so can I? I'll focus on these points. "They now use cover better on one side" If you can shut down a single angle of cover, you limit their movements. A good squad will be able to pick up on it. If you can maneuver your squad into a good angle, you can "force" the enemy into a lose-lose scenario. If they take cover from the squad, they are in your line of fire. If they take cover from you, they are in your squads line of fire. If they find a small area where they can be safe from both? Grenades work wonders. "I provide recon up to 500m" Great snipers don't snipe from 500m away. 130-250 is the general range. Close enough (in a sense) to provide real support and recon, yet not far enough away as to be useless if they need to change positions or hack an unguarded point. IMO, CCP can really help snipers as a squad mate by buffing damage on sniper rifles. Give my scout a reason not to run dual complex damage mods in my highs, so that I can run some decent shielding and a good pistol. "I can lock down an objective" You can too, but that isn't the point. Sure, you can just sit on an objective and achieve the same result, but in general, a sniper guarding the point (with backup RE's) is FAR more a nuisance. You can rush a letter with a squad and take it from a good scout, but a sniper will just sit back, and take the head off the first guy who hacks. Second guy? If he decides to stand still, he dies too. If they try to quickly hack with multiple people? RE them. If one guy can strafe fast enough to avoid the death, you can still provide recon support to you squad when they try to take it back. Knowing how many, and what suits they are running is a massive boon to any assault squad. Locations help too At least that's my take on this. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6499	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:50:00 - [25] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: True Adamance wrote: You guys are never useful merely annoying unless you can camp one objective and entire match and ensure no enemy captures that singular point. Yes, but we're not talkng about Viet Cong. We're talking about Chinese. Good red blooded Chinese. What do you think of those? Chinese people? I like em well enough? Chinese Snipers? Not so much but then again I don't like any snipers.... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES 130	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:51:00 - [26] - Quote Dont see why ppl think snipers are usless can u go 40/0 in game probably not.. Btw I don't sit in the redline when I snipe also prof 5 is preety good guys just sayin... just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1301	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:58:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: IMO, CCP can really help snipers as a squad mate by buffing damage on sniper rifles. Give my scout a reason not to run dual complex damage mods in my highs, so that I can run some decent shielding and a good pistol. or you could keep the damage mods and just like double ohko me. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2580	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:11:00 - [28] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: IMO, CCP can really help snipers as a squad mate by buffing damage on sniper rifles. Give my scout a reason not to run dual complex damage mods in my highs, so that I can run some decent shielding and a good pistol. or you could keep the damage mods and just like double ohko me. I prefer versatility over Pure raw damage. Think of it this way, if they can make the base damage not god awful, I would run a single Enhanced damage mod and a complex shield on my scout. Enough damage to 2HK with headshots (due to the ungodly eHP most suits have), and still have enough slots left to run some decent shielding and a good sidearm. I want to be able to move about 120m behind my squad, providing long range support and yet still being able to defend myself (necessary, since 120m away isn't that far in Dust.) Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4372	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:20:00 - [29] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: You're a sniper? Please, by all means, continue to be completely and utterly useless, not helping your team even a little bit. I'm also a Logi, Scout, Assault, AVer, and Tanker. But that's besides the point. How is any of the things in the OP "completely and utterly useless and not helping my team even a little bit?" At least provide some form of an argument. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4372	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:25:00 - [30] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Guy crouching behind hill a, dropsuit not rendering, while he's sitting in his redline with a Thales Respect So your upset about people who abuse the redline? This encompasses snipers in general, how exactly? Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!



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